Z Review - Audio-Technica M50x (Round 2..)
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Theyre not for pleasure
looks at screen*
I died there
RIP
same
Lofty Smalls They're self-satisfied pervs.
I listened to Call of Duty on them. I also listened to stereo mixes I created of audio extracted from my own bought with my own money for the coppy right people DVDs and they are glorious. Okay okay yeah maybe he's right that panning could be wider but for the way i listen where I judge things and critisize they are epic. They actually remind me of my old Bose QC 15s. They just don't have that movie theater speaker flavor the Bose did. So yes my only complanints would be the update process is a total joke. What the hell Audio-Technica? You got to hold down all the 3 media buttons and hold your finger in the finger sencer to get it to do the update. Yeah I got the BT version which some say lost some of the over harshness of the regular 50X that he's reviewing here. Let's see here yeah they do clamp too little too much. One friend even went so far as to warn me to keep my ears cleen. This he says is cause they can shuv things in your ears they clamp so mad hard. That's not good if true. The last beef I have is no APTX HD and or Sony's LDac. Ahim ain't this a pro monitoring set? Well then the blu-tooth should be pro.LDAC can go up to full 96 KHZ 24 bits at 999 KBPS.
@@MrHamit64 Who monitors with Bluetooth?
9:14 'Don't blow your earbrains out.. Earbrains, goddamnit..'
'Don't blow your earballs out...' Carries on normally hahaha...
+Uncut Sevens Earballs are normal.. dont you have some?
+Haunted Abyss cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/blogs/lists/Archer-gang-5.jpg
I heard thst right when i read that comment
I own some original M50's with a detachable cable mod. It was one of my first headphones. Looking back, I probably should've bought the DT770s, but I think all this is a learning experience. I've no regrets about buying my M50's. Are there much better choices out there for the price? Hell yes there are. That's why you're here Z, so that future young bucks just getting into audio don't make the same mistake I made. If it comes down to M50's or DT770s go with German engineering kids!
The dts suck
Watched this with m50x's on...
This vid
Watching with m50x BT, what do you think of yours, I love mine
@@wackalope8782, to be honest I enjoy my M50x as much as i enjoy my Sennheiser HD650. M50s sound that good!
Loving my M50xBt
with tears in your eyes and fists clenched
I listen to HD600s at home, but I needed a pair of closed headphones for low volume listening at work, so I bought an M50x. At first I thought it sounded like mud, but I wasn't really looking for perfection in a set of throw away work headphones. After some long listening sessions though, I found I really enjoy listening to them. No need for the hate. They don't sound natural by any means, and I would never game in them. but they are a pleasure to listen to.
I have owned these for 2 years now. They are very well built. I have dropped these things probably 50 times and they are still like new.
They have 1 big flaw though and its the hinge.
Jonas Pärsson that's a flaw in many headphones.
@@jonasparsson6721 Yup, my left m50x hinge broke after 6 years regular usage. Got the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro and I'm blown away, never going back to the m50x. Holy shit, they are more wide, warm, easy on the ears, spacious, and most importantly, *clear.*
@@mikeexits nice I have been wanting to do that and since I started music production like 3months ago and just got the m50s I like them but in sure need of strictly mixing headphones
Do you recommend the dt990s?
that's because it's plastic, it's like how wires break, it's not because of that one time you pulled on them too hard, it's because of everyday bends, same logic with pretty much everything, it's like buying tempered glass for your phone thinking it survives a fall better than normal glass when it's in fact either false or tempered glass is even worse, when what matters about tempered glass is the scratch resistance, nothing is supposed to survive falls, but everyday wear should not fuck it
That cat loves you so much Z.
"Human is talking and touching sound thingies again... I better stay close and make sure he not goes complete insane..." - cat
+sverek hot
+sverek hot
I Em Gote he's had like 4000 cats so technically he's gotten alot
3:19 "not for pleasure" (looks at anime girl) XD
I personally enjoy the m50x's. They're have a very nice sound, especially since I prefer a more balanced sound. I'm just not huge on bass, it doesn't have to be the center of the sound for me. I respect your review, but I don't agree with it. And that's what a lot of Audio-Technica fans need to realize. You can disagree with a review and still respect it.
I also heavily disagree with his review. Owning the M50x, they are really not terrible.
josh Subet I own them too, they're pretty good if you ask me.
I'm Normal, I have never tried the m50x's my self so im not saying these are bad or good. However, seeing as Zeos probably has tried 100 more pairs of headphones than me, and most likely you, I feel like he has a better understanding on how these sounds compared to the other headphones listed for example. Sure, they are obviously not terrible, and if these are the only mid-range headphones you have tested (for a long period of time) you probably think they are good, because you have no reference point.
Meh, he is inconsistent between headphones.
Comparing the M50x to my Etymotic ER4XR, they really aren't as bad as Zeos paints it to be. The Sibilant region is elevated, but not terrible like how he described, and I find the bass fairly good. The only things I would nag on is the comfort, and the slightly scoped mids. This was very obvious coming from near perfect accurate IEMs.
>m50's
>balanced
pick one
Made both of the changes he recommended (treble killers + new pads) and it breathed new life into my m50s (got them like 8 years ago when I didn't know better)! Thanks
I completely agree with you. My starter headphone was the M50, had them for 3 years before I recently upgraded to a DT990 Pro. I fucking love the DT990s, I really like highs. But when I put the pleather HM5 pads on the M50 it is unfuckingbearable and their soundstage is awful no matter what.
Edit - I cut out the back padding from the original pads and put them behind the HM5 pads. They are now actually listenable, but they still sound "sucked out".
As a classical musician, i find the m50x's sound signature quite good to my liking. I do understand all the point Z mentioned in the video, but in the end is what You prefer. My ear is quite sensitive to low frequency so that might be something....
Some of this could indeed be the subjective nature of one's hearing. I played Chopin Nocturnes through the ATs and that sounded a lot better (kind of) than rock or pop music.
But they still sounded shrill to me, so fuck that, back they went.
They are shrill but because that gives more detail to music professionals. They are not meant for comfort or easy listening
@@bluecandyman1778 They can be used for casual listening too if you know how to tweak them, this headphones have very powerful drivers and low distortion, than means that they will respond perfect to EQ, and you can literally copy any sound signature from other closed cans, you can make them sound like trash beats if you want too...By default they are made to be used in studios for MONITORING, idk what is this guy talking about, he has no idea what the purpose of these headphones is...
I enjoy my M50x as much as i enjoy my 650s!
i must say they sounded like your said when they were new, but after 2 weeks and around 25 hours of burn in (not wearing them) they sound fantastic to me. And i have my Senns HD650 as reference.
your ear balls has pop out
Thanks man, your reviews stopped me from getting the m50x and I just got a Momentum over-ear and I'm super happy with them.
Good review man!!! :D I'm gonna order my M50x tomorrow! :)
Sergej Krynycký hahahah
order some Excedrin with them. You're gonna need it
Give me another foldable, decent over the ears cans. Not the horrible momentums, not the gigantic soundmagic... pooooortables!!!
@@luigismilazzo vmoda m100
@@luigismilazzo There are plenty actually. Its just that the m50x are the best.
Gosh dang it I should've seen this before I bought mine, this is very accurate :/
Might be the pair I have but I simply Love them so much. I bought a pair of HE-350s for normal listening but I think I prefer the 50s over the HE. Granted I modded my 50s a bit. I opened them up and unscrewed the driver housing. There's a white ring that goes over the wire I cut it off and saved it and oh my goodness it's made them so much better. I looked around seeing if anyone else has done it. I haven't found anyone else who's done it.I realize comparing a open back to a closed is like apples to oranges. I'm not comparing them. I perfer the M50X's
Back in 2017 when I asked family to buy me headphones for Christmas, I went into a shop, with no online research, and listened to every headphone there. After I’d chosen the M50X, I realised that if I just had Googled good headphone it would have immediately appeared, so I wasted time, but I’m glad the choice was my own. I’ve enjoyed them and found them invaluable for sound production, and fun for music as well. Apart from the pads, they’ve also held up perfectly. But I have two problems with them - clampforce and soundstage. I know now how much better both could be, and though I’ve loved mine very much, I’m now ready to try something new.
Thank God I'm not see this video before buying my m50x because i would regret it, i love your videos man but in this case im not share your opinion. This headphones have a tight punchy bass, and an agresive super energetic sound and that's why i like this!
N MB check out his M40x videos and the two sound demo videos for M40x and M50x. You'll see the difference in soundstage and quality.
My thought exactly.
Lower end bass is kinda muddy tho
my workhorse, I have these for over 7 years, changed the pads once and had to make a new headband for them. Very well made inside.
But hey, it depends on the person. So might as well try it before making a decision.
Even if the tonality SOMEHOW works for your ears, they're just shit across the board. Just actual worthless garbage. Terrible build, terrible technical performance.
"Don't blow your earballs out".
Wonderful, Z. Wonderful.
can you please review the m40x? they are said to be way better than the 50s. more balanced bass not so piercing highs and way cheaper.
Have them. Rumors are true
It needs to be review
+Z Reviews Yes Z, review please :D
Pls review, buying new headphones shortly and I would really appreciate it
They aren't that better than the m50x. I personally like the m50x over the m40x.
They are balanced, but the soundstage is pretty narrow. Personally, I am a fan, plus they are comfortable. I can wear them for hours. BUT....if you want a wider soundstage and tighter highs, skip the M50s.
your right with them feeling cheaper. Had my pair of the m50s and my friend brought his m50x over, and you could easily feel that the headband and the plastic is a lot lower quality but the pads are definitely better on the X (still hurts my head wearing them though...).
I totally agree with Z Reviews... I had m50x for over a year now..... Good headphone to do music work... Worst headphone to enjoy music.... I regret getting these
finaly a proper review....
they aren't as good as they say...
I fell for the hype
same:/ 100$ not worth spending
same after using the 598s for a while i wanted close back and then i got them. I dont like them. I want a new pair but i am stuck i want a sound that is like the 598 can someone help i need close back and they should be below 200
focal listen
Krib
And rew there are 598s closed back
Zeos, from what I know from the youtubers. They just plug 'em to a very dull onboardl sound card, which is no wonder why the bright sound signature of the m50x does not hurt them. at all.
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I have my m50x's for about 4 years now 3 years on 15€ aftermarket velour pads. I've thrown them around my desk on my bed, I've had them squished in backpacks and travel cases and the cable got pulled out many times. And they still work absolutely great. I don't think they're uncomfortable but maybe that's because I have a rather slim head, though there was a bit of a headclamp feel when I first got them. The headband started slowly chipping apart about 3 months ago and official spare parts for that cost 36€ including 5€ shipping to germany. I haven't had other headphones for longer periods of time that are worth mentioning so these are my first pair of above 50€ so I don't wanna recommend them nescessarily just state my experience with them. Also that's why i've not mentioned anything about sound because that topic is highly comparison based.
Bought the M50x a few months ago expecting amazing quality based on the reviews and your review pretty much sums up how I feel about them... so overrated. Just bought the ATH-AD900x though and am loving them!!
I don’t think these are crap cans, but the midbass is bloomy, the mids are slightly recessed, the treble is a little metallic.
They are not neutral. But they are dynamic, they have fidelity, and good stereo separation. They are punchy. They sound fun.
For studio work I prefer K361 and SRH840, but these are good to have lying around a church soundbooth or just for jamming
I find the M50x very comfortable. And if you aren't in a battlezone, the headphones are pretty sturdy. I know they aren't built as a tank but I've gotten pretty good mixes when using them.
I wish I could try the m50x's before buying them. this review makes me question if they are good or not. However, this review is so over the top that makes me question the credibility. Sound can be subjective to a degree and that makes finding a good pair of headphones hard without personally using them
Just read the comments. Take their word for it.
Don't take this review at face value. This guy hates them. Others love them. Completely subjective. Personally I like them a lot, I accept they have faults, but it is my opinion that you cannot get better headphones for the price. I like the look. I like the build. I like the sound. I've had them for years, never let me down. If you wanna pay more then pay more. But for this price, M50x are in the top 3 easily.
Saved your money, get the slightly better m-40s. then upgrade the pads.
Being my first serious headphones, I thought they were ok back in the day, but now I'm so happy with the Momentums (even when they're not the best out there) that when switching back to the M50 they feel very raw, uncomfortable and fatiguing. Still, I'd recommend them if the price is really low and it's your first real headphone.
I bought the M50x a few years back for production and mixing... sold them within 3 months to get some k702s. I didn't pay much attention to the sound difference from an enjoyment perspective but the quality of my mixing went up quite a notable ways, then when I was able to get some Adam A7x s the quality spiked again massively... The m50x was an okay headphone in that all frequencies were at least present, but there was no good point other than that. My AKGs sounded fine, but the cable sucks and the build quality is laughably bad... All in all i ended up with HD650s for just listening to music since doing any really mixing/mastering/production on headphones really isn't a solution (it took 3 years of personal experience to come to that conclusion). :D If you are an audio professional and you want some decent headphones, the m50x shouldn't be on your shortlist.
I thought they were pretty bad too. I bought them purely on the hype as a present for my brother. I owned the Q701s and the HD598s at the time. Coming from both of those, I could not for the life of me find what was so enjoyable at the M50xs. Just so lifeless with absolutely zero soundstage. I realize they're closed headphones, but Christ...
Speaking toward the "build quality", I had mine in excess of 4 years and even though almost every single piece of faux leather has fallen off, they still work with not a single broken piece/swivel. They may feel cheap but dam they are sturdy!
Weird there are tons of people with broken ones near the hinge.
@@mertsekeroglu4825 i must have got a lucky headset :p. Its still going for me today lol
Fuck... I recently bought these because I read so many good things about them, but I gotta admit they do kind of, I dunno, tire me out. I wanted headphones to relax and enjoy music, but these are just too intense, everything too close together. I think I'm gonna sell them and fork out for a pair of TTPods and some nice open-backs.
TTpods will make you deaf.
m50x. Sold it recently
I strongly recommend better headphones, but not the 700s. I've heard a lot of negative things about their sound quality, which you can see for yourself in Z's reviews and the reviews/comments of others.
One thing to keep in mind about the 650s and the 600s is that they're quite hard to drive at 300ohms impedance. You'll probably need to spend a fair bit of cash on a DAC + amp setup rather than DAC/amp combo to make the most out of them.
If you don't wanna spend loads on a DAC + amp setup, there's the option of getting a pair of high-quality, open-back headphones that, unlike the 650s, are easy to drive. Things that come to mind are the Fidelio X2s, HiFiMan HE-400Ss w/ modded pads, and SHP9500s.
The X2s and 400Ss are similar in price to the 650s and the 9500s are really cheap for their quality. All of them will sound great without an amp, but will sound better with an amp/DAC combo under $250.
Another thing to consider when tossing up between your 2 options is whether you prefer open-back or closed-back headphones. Both have their pros and cons, so do some research about how they differ and decide which sounds better to you (no pun intended).
If I can stress one thing it's that thorough research is important! Don't be dumb like me and buy something without that much thought. Look under every nook and cranny of the internet to gather as much information as possible so you can make a really well-informed choice (unlike me lol).
If you're able to go to a hi-fi store and actually try out whatever headphones you're interested in to see how much you like them, do that. Nothing beats trying stuff out for yourself. Hope this helps.
If I seemed condescending and was telling you stuff you already knew, I'm sorry. I was playing it safe in case you were only just starting to look into headphones.
www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-full-size-sealed#X6IBO2llpQY4jkBs.97
www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/comments/3ttvhy/guide_headphones_general_music/
Here are some good places to look for closed-back. If you're gonna be using headphones outside a lot, say like 40% of the time or more, I think it's worth it to get closed-backs. But if you're not gonna be going outside that much, and spend the _large_ majority of your listening time at home, I personally think you should go with open and buy a decent pair of IEMs under $100 for listening outside, as they won't leak and they're hella convenient. But that's just me. Open isn't necessarily better than closed, it all depends on taste.
+Damon Adrian Sounds good man. Good luck
Own the ATM-M50s and truly agree I even have them with the HM5 Pads, I should've just saved up and got a nice setup with HD600s/650s. I have them to compare with the HD598s and the ATH-M50s with the HM5 Hybrid Pads is a god send. Everyone who has M50s should get them. With the treble issue I fixed it by cutting out the foam from the old earpads as I don't need them. Now they are wonderful and they still have a place on the table when I listen to deep house, Jon Bellion and the such.
I think the M50x feel really well built and I don't know why you say they are uncomfortable, they are not the most comofortable but not to the point where they are uncomfortable.
+Laskok0 I assume he's in a similar case as I (as we tend to for the most part agree on comfort):
Big ears
giant head.
+Godin The Killer Yeah I have pretty large ears and a big head and the pads get very hot & pinch so it's almost unbearable.
Triumphance Music heat with pads have never been a issue with me. The pain has.
Laskok0 >well built
Yea my hinges broke and had to super glue them and the rings are loose. So no there not well bult.
Hello Z. I've shared your opinions on the M50X headphone. After experimenting with various ear pads, I find the original earpads (which you get 2 of ) with the Brainwavs HM5 headphone to strike a pleasant balance between bass, trebble and comfort. You may not agree, but could be helpful for fellow listeners with similar ears as I.
Keep up the good work.
They aren't meant to be easy on your ears, they are professional headphones. They are meant for the studio and DJing. They are accurate but not easy on the ears.
Hey Z Reviews, I know this video is kind of old now but I fell prey to the hype train and got a pair of M50xs before I saw this and I can say that I totally agree. As my first pair of "over ear monitoring headphones" I found that the highs have a painful sensation that tickles my ear canals at low volumes, and are sheering at louder volumes. The bass isn't great either. All in all, I'm underwhelmed.
Anyway, I play guitar and am an amateur music producer. I'm looking for something that I can use for monitoring, tracking and mixing, as well as for general use and music enjoyment. Do you have a few suggestions to fit that? Or do I really just need more than 1 set of cans to meet all of those needs?
Thanks, great video
I still don't understand your hate towards these cans.
I've noticed a massive surge of people suddenly saying that the M50X's are horrible. Which is funny that this is only being said AFTER they become popular. Like people are acting as if these are the new Beats. It's almost like people will purposefully bash a good headphone just to go against the grain.
I just talk about what I hear. I bought the original set as my first set to try and follow the popularity. I was severely disappointed. Then the M70x did the same and teh M40x blow my mind how good they are.
Its a crap shoot.
New to the audio game. I just moved from the M50x's to Momentum M2's and I think finally get the whole treble thing.
I mean, if EVERY other review I hear says their good for any purpose, from studio monitoring, to casual listening, to gaming, and this one pissy guy who seems like the snobby “I know better than you because I’m an audiophile with a messy room full of gear” type is telling me otherwise, I’m just going to assume that it’s just him being crotchety, and that they’re probably fine for most people in most situations...
I’ve got a pair of M50Xs coming for Christmas, and I’m personally very excited to give them a try!
please dont buy these
ive owned them, theres better options
dont get me wrong they sound fine, but way your options, fidelio x2hr, dt880 chrome are some examples
@@vibe1884 Just looked those up, but it looks like those are both open-backed. I was specifically looking for closed. I normally prefer to use the vintage speakers that I have hooked up to my stereo. My main purpose for headphones is so I don’t distract my wife while she’s working in the evenings. So I didn’t really want open-back.
So far my highest quality headphone experience is with Beats that I got free when I bought my MacBook. From the research I’ve been doing recently, it sounds like there are a lot of options better than those, so I feel like I can only go up from where I am. But I’m just breaking into the world of high-quality headphones. The M50Xs just came up so often and I heard almost nothing but good stuff. And the price was right. 🤷🏻♂️
But if you’ve got recommendations of other good closed-backs for around $150, I’ll take a look!
The biggest competitor I’ve seen is Beyerdynamics DT770. But they’re a bit more expensive, and don’t have a removable cable and don’t fold, so they’re not as portable. I don’t trust that I’m quite enough of an “audiophile” to be able to effectively tell the difference in sound, so at this point I’m happy with trading a slight drop in quality for the conveniences and lower price of the M50X.
@@Mr._Mints SRH840 or M40x with pad mod?
@@Mr._Mints for closed back
I think you need a part 3 video. Just like mk3's, try pads that crush, specifically the Shure 1540 pads, these sound pretty good and are super comfy - like the most comfortable headphones you will ever put on. Plus you get one added benefit of a "semi-open headphone ", in that you can hear someone without having to take your headphones off. Also, no special foam insert is needed with the 1540 pads.
Why do people buy M50x when M40x are much cheaper and don't have that shitty bass peak... Not to mention for the price of M50x you can get so many better cans
+Rafał Sobczyk The entire monitor line is shit tbh, M40x's still have trebble issues.
Just tried out the MDR 7520's 2 days ago, and I own the 7509HD and 7506.They're just great monitors.
Godin The Killer Wow, you can get better quality for 3x the price? I would never guess
***** 7506's cost less than M40x's. And no, your assessment is incorrect. Otherwise I'd enjoy HD700's more than HD650's, and I don't.
+Rafał Sobczyk
Ive listened both. the m40x's and m50x's. Imo the 40xs were better so i bought those. Also much cheaper. Got these for 90€ delivered. For 90 bucks its a good pair of cans imo. Ive also had a pair of those Qpad Qh-90's (Takstar Pro80 clone but with a different markings) And those were really shit. Couldnt use those for gaming at all. So i had to sell them. I would say go for the m40x instead of the m50xs. M50x had too much bass imo and were too "in your face" headphones.
jamppa990 M40x's still aren't good.
And You actually bought the Q-pads? You dun fucked up.
never saw videos of someone who is this passionate and honest about sound and headphones. that guy nailed it for me. his recomendations are pretty valid and these dislikes just shows how some rookie tech-youtubers who usually test graphics cards can unjustifiably hype up mediocre products
The ATH M50 is the Nickleback of headphones. They got too popular at a fast rate so to hate on them seems like the cool thing to do.
I came back from testing 30pairs+ of headphones including 3 times more expensive ones. I did not know about the m50x.
My favorites were the Focals, m70x (basically m50 with more soundstage and little more detail), m50x, then HD25, grados, and I did not like all the others which sounded too analytical or too spectrum shifted towards treble. Call me crazy but while I think the Focal were the best sounding models, I think the m50x came the closest to it in terms of coloration and keeping music alive. I have not tested any hifiman though.
By the way I for some reason love your laid back 1st person camera shooting rig reviews, keep it up Z
I have the same impression on this headphone when I listened to it. High frequencies are really in your face, biting
Ah that means they are great for the real hi wisling part of the Godzilla 1998 roar. The 50X BTs are too kind of they just don't do that real hi wistle part as cleenly and purely as the Apple 30 $ earpods.
I'm just gonna put this here for anyone considering buying these: I loved my m50x for all the time I had them, they're my first hi-fi headphones.
But after 6 years (today) the left earpiece suddenly was able to bend away from my head, so when I wear them now the left earpiece won't stay on my head, the very top corner does but the bottom pulls away; the only way I can use them now is if I hold the left headphone to my ear. I took good care of them (though admittedly, I just put them in my backpack when traveling; no case).
Got the Beyer Dynamic DT 990 Pro and hohoholy Jesus they're great. Bass is less loud, open back, non-detachable cord, and they don't fold, but they sound genuinely amazing. Stereo field is muuuch wider and more clear than the m50x (to my ears, we all have different preferences). Even the clarity of the sounds and layers of songs sound clearer and less muddled/blurry than on the m50x. I fell in love demoing these at guitar center so I ended up getting them after lots of comparing. Not as nice for phone use because they're quieter and I have to turn my phone volume up all the way to match the volume of 75% on my m50x, but the clarity is definitely a tier or two above the m50x. I use it mostly for studio music production anyway, so I can boost my audio interface's volume to compensate.
I only wish the android volume boosting apps actually worked. But I'm not planning on taking these outside the house often so it's not a big deal. The studio is #1.
If only I discovered the audiophile community before I bought my m50x's. Oh well I have nothing to compare them too, but I definitely want to upgrade sometime.
+Eric Borthistle Sell them before this video gets popular, and buy literally anything he has positively reviewed.
+Eric Borthistle You and me both
+Ethan Groover Thinking about it, sph9500's look pretty good.
+Eric Borthistle Wearing those now, they're definitely the best value out of any headphones under $200.
I've had my M50xs for a super long time, since about 2015-16. I like them. Though it's the only real pair i've owned. Probably will invest in the m40s and those pads eventually though just to have them.
Really don't understand why people hate these headphones so much. Z Reviews is really lacking consistency between reviews. Here is a graph of the frequency response of the Beyer-Dynamic DT 770, the M50x, and the Shure SRH840. imgur.com/a/LQbBV
He says that the Shure SRH840 is what the M50x should be. When looking at the graph, the M50x has less of what annoyed him, the bass and harsh treble. While the Shure SRH840 has significantly more energy at 8Khz-10Khz and 75hz -500hz. Really doesn't add up.
after the pads change the treble spike up about 20%,so u have to stick with the stock pads to compare
Even though I love these headphones, hes right about the soundstage and thats what makes the difference.
I bought them for the wrong reason and I bought the pads and foam and while listening for a while, I like it! Thanks! 👍
I fell for the hype and these headphones give me headaches :(
There was 2 things I needed to do with my M50x's. The first was leave them over a chair to stretch out that headband a bit. Talk about clamping force!
The second was buy/make some rolled foam inserts to bring the padding out a little to help them fit over my ears.
After doing that they're a LOT more comfortable and I'm left to enjoy how my music should sound.
If you try some better headphones, you'll take that last sentence back..
hi mate nice review i almost bought m50x...which headphones you can recommend me for producing? i produce techno.
Shure 840 is my go-to for mastering.
I wish i had seen this review before buying Audio-Technica M50x's. I'm having similar issues with them and i bought them based off all the review's and positive things said. At first i thought i had damaged my ear drums listening somehow, but i found out it was likely just these headphones. Having these at 80-85% volume on a phone were unbearable for me and caused pain after just a few minutes of listening. I lowered the volume which helped greatly, but then i could not listen to the music. I tried my old earbuds or headphones no issues in terms of pain and having them as loud.
Going to go ahead and try out the SHP9500's. I'm hoping these are more what i enjoy. ATH-AD900X's, HD 600, and Beyerdynamic DT 770 are priced way to high for me. 300+ CAD dollars. SHP9500's come to 120$.
Cooper b im in canada too, and ive seen the 9500 for $60 Canadian, so wait until they go on sail
Edit: SALE!!! Holy shit im tired
Damn dt770s are only 150 usd here
I like my M50X's and am listening to this on them. I wonder what you would think of the Turtle Beach X12s? Those are some of the only decent headphones I wore before this, and I definitely think these are better. It's hard to know whether I just have different taste, or simply have never heard anything better.
turtle beach... TURTLE BEACH? Anything is better than those
I have the M50x's and I think they're usable enough for monitoring. Not trying to say they're the best studio headphones ever, but they are fine for what they are.
Im mostly yelling at people using them for just straight music listening.
Thanks @Z Reviews. you make the most honest reviews.
I don't know why but at 1:09 and 2:45 i noticed the fps on your recording spikes up but drops down again... Codec issues? Also I received the smsl sd793-II in the post today and i'm really enjoying it. Thanks for doing that review on it, i probably would have grabbed a fiio e10k for more if i didnt watch it. :)
+superdupercake Yea, its easy to notice in webcams, i would say it is because of the light, when he looks at the monitor there is more light coming, i dont know exactly how that works but this is it.
+superdupercake The e10k does put out significantly more power than the smsl, though. And the dac on the e10k is pretty much perfect.
I can agree to the pain aspect at high volume, my ears was beeping like I went deaf
Hey. I buyed m40x and liked em. I buyed m50x and firstly i was impressed and at the same time not - i was frustrated - they sound slightly better than m40x in bass but not in rest and i thought - oh no. I listened again M40x and liked em lot still. I used M50X again right after M40X and now i have HEARED this immediately difference - more bass and more amazing treble. I finished not only at this. I used multiband eq and WTF. I made them more linear. Yes i using them for monitoring. Amazing. I was planin to chhose 770 beyerdynamic but m50x are sick. m40x are really sick too but m50x - gived me more details. I love both. Sexy monitors.
To be honest, the M50x isn't even good for monitoring.
+Igor Rebenko Well if you want every track you make to be bass lite.
+Z Reviews Please, answer my question. Why do you frequently say we should never have amps at full volume?
Do you know why we shouldn't put amps at full volume?
TheWingsofValmar The higher you push the gain the higher your distortion rates are.
+Z Reviews and you always know when you went overboard with the highs
You actually said in your Yamaha review that it sounded excellent, the bass did slam but in a good way plus it had "some" sound stage. Think it was the highs that were your problem with the MT-220's, but with HM5 pads the shrill wasn't as apparent. Overall the Yamaha's did have a fair review I think.
Somehow everyone who hates the m50x's with a passion always seems to point out bad build quality. I can understand people not liking the sound, or the comfort... all fair points, but criticizing the build quality just makes you sound like a professional contrarian. I don't know what about them feels cheap to you, but I've had them for a couple of years now. They literally have thousands of hours of use. They've been thrown around in cable bags, alongside drum hardware, they have been stepped on and had the cable yanked out dozens of times and they look brand new. The build quality is exactly what it should be. These are headphones for tracking. I understand that if you bought them look kewl 4 skewl you might be disappointed, but they do what they're supposed to for a reasonable price.
edit: aaaaaaaand he's recommending DT770's at the end. They have no bass and roll off at 8k and sound like a rotary phone speaker, so they must be good! omg fucking audiophiles XD
He's just saying that the build quality of the m50x is worse than the m50s were. I'm looking at my friend's m50x right now compared to my m50. The plastic and the hinges do feel a little bit less sturdy on the m50x. But its not like the m50x is bad build wise.
dt 770s r the sub bass kings, tf r u on about.
The biggest down side of this hp is the comfort, I have 1 pair too, and I really enjoy all about this hp except for the comfort, the earpads are trash.. the build quality is on point.
that "XD" at the the end made me disregard everything you said before that
He doesnt know what the fuck an AMP or DAC is.
I'm just wearing the M50x, tried them at bass guitar tracking and noticed right away a harshness at about 4k. I did my research and there it is, the few and rare that have the same issue. I think you are right, I tried to make myself think that they are great and that I am the issue because the whole world likes them but... the treble, the soundstage and kind of the bass to are worse than what I've had with my Creative Fatality that just died on me and they were like 30 bucks...
So what I'm getting, ATH-M50x are meant to make and mix music
I disagree with any claims saying that these cans are fit to monitor or mix any music. Beyond the immediate flaws, the M50x's timbre is skewed across the board. It's a shame. =\ But my regular M50 is perfect for the job, for some reason.
Cavey Manta Headphones aren't for tonal balance, they are used to find flaws
I ordered these via amazon, the box had no seal, they looked new.
At first, they sounded good IMO, however my deal breaker was something different.
They had stereo imbalance, which is the most annoying thing ever in headphones. After an intense burn-in session, the stereo imbalance was still present (Left was louder than right).
Sound was well detailed, having used earpods, bass heavy sony's, sennheiser 280 pro steelseries siberia v2 & bang & olufsen h6 2nd gen. I listen to headphones @ 40-60% volume on my MBP or iPhone, even lesser if its earpods. Unless its my favourite track.
I listened to these on 50-70% volume and didnt feel like cranking the volume up bcuz its lazer! So at a moderate level these sounded really nice, detail was very good, bass was nice, I was enjoying music, all sorts House, Orchestra, Piano, Jazz, Electronic. Bright & Fun.
I actually purchased a lot of music while listening the previews on iTunes store, almost all the tracks were better, especially the VOCALS, that was the thing which kept me interested & how balanced it is overall. I was very happy with the sound detail BUT i couldnt get over the STEREO IMBALANCE. That ruined everything. I know these headphones dont look great and neither are they very comfortable. What is REALLY BAD about these headphones is that THEY ARE NOT WHAT THEY SAY IT IS FOR! Worst headphones for sound monitoring!
If the LEFT channel sounds louder than the RIGHT one it doesnt matter how good it sounds.
I ordered a replacement, hoping its going to be better BUT NO! The second pair of headphones were worse. It sounded MUDDY & DULL + Stereo Imbalance.
Also the soundstage can confuse you sometimes, like the positioning of instruments in V-MODA crossfade m100 but much worse. As much as I liked them for how FUN they were at first, I was disappointed and returned them back.
Audio-Technica has made a mistake & its m50x. They actually sound terrible.
Don't agree at all. The m50x's sound fine. Your ears are different. Are the m50x's my goto HP's no but neither are my Grado sr325e's. And on some tracks nothing touches my Grados. I had Sennheiser hd 650's and sold them as they were so veiled it was a disaster. So are the hd598's. My favs are my Beyer dt 990's and my ath-r70x's. When your hearing evolves you no longer enjoy music you analyze it and that's when you can no longer be subjective. I've had to retrain my listening as I could no longer emjoy music because all I was doing was reviewing the headphone and not the music. This industry has done nothing but make us spend tons of cash on junk. Bottom line is find a place you can take your listening device and whatever your budget is listen to headphones in that range and stick with it. This amping, dacing, changing pads modding has done nothing but make just plain having fun listening to music a horror show. Heck I can remember when I had 40 dollar Sennheiser ear buds and I was loving the tunes. Now its wait to much treble on this not enough soundstage on that and guess what I'm out like 5k. II have 3 dap's 4 headphone amps and 25 headphones/iems and sold 10. This is not fun its punishment.
If you're a music analyzer, you should've went for the HD 600, not the DT 990
athr70x are just as good as the 600's and are cheaper here. analyzing is a curse something I am overcoming thus why I like my dt990's for movies. hey I like Z he's not afraid to tell the truth. and most of the time I check to see if he has reviewed before I consider it and will continue to. but the m50x's are well liked but so are beats and I heard the latest beats and they are not bad. heck I am even enjoying my qc35's as fabricated as they are.
Audio Technica AD700's, had them for 6 years still doing good, can be had for under $150 these days, yes they are ope headphones.
i really feel shit after this review lol. i didnt listen to ur first review and bought them.
but i like them, i was missing a closed back pair and i like bass sometimes so i ordered these.im only gonna change the pads i ordered from massdrop few weeks ago because i like velour pads more. and for me they dont feel cheap tbh.
i also have the hd598 and ath-ad500x
For the price: I'd highly recommend damped/modded Fostex T50RPs w/velour pads, or just any other pads that aren't the stock Fostex pads.
I tried these the other day and I totally agree with you.
yes comparing to the hifiman, i could hear that the ath m50 had no soundstage, was up there in the treble and recessed mids low end was ok maybe a little exaggerated on stock pads. They did not sound very enjoyable. The only thing they do well is revealing detail in the music. They push the music forward to reveal the detail and make it easier to analyse the music. They are good monitoring headphones thats all they are. If you have never heard soundstage before then you will like these headphones.
I bought the m50xs after my brother bought m50s 5 years ago and I love them because I learned to make my own eq settings for them so the highs are not as loud on the highs
sorry u don't enjoy the m50s I like them but u did a really good review. thumbs up
try m40x, and i'm sure you won't like m50 either. i did and after that m50x are overhyped crap like beats. you want that legendary sound that everyone talks about m50? get m40x
+SapiaNt0mata I have those pair and theyre ok, and also m50s aren't close to beats not one bit
+plzb0ss close to beats? beats are terrible and a rip off
hes right, whether one thinks these are bad or not they are nothing like beats
I'm happy with my M50xBTs
I don't have that much comparison, but for the price I paid (about 170€) they deliver - and they are wireless. It may be a compromise, but I just hate cables when I'm on the train etc. They break and they're in the way..
The sound seems balanced to me and I can wear them for a few hours without feeling uncomfortable. Only the ear pads are a bit to small for me - but that's because of piercings and tunnels, so I'm gonna switch them out - and that's how I landed on this channel. Sadly the video about the ear pads was more like a show of and less informative..
I personally Love the ATH m50xs because i haven't heard anything that's better yet...
And you are not alone. There are many people that are still rocking M50x for just that reason.
Z Reviews I suposse!! And this if of topic but i was wondering if you Could review Cerwin vega xls 6?? Great reviews btw!!
I bought these almost 2 years ago when my original M50s were wearing out. The hinge on the left can broke in 2 weeks. Finally got them fixed this summer, but they do still feel loose and cheap. I don't know what happened, because the M50s were very robust. They eventually completely konked out on a plane and I bought the MSR-7s at the layover airport out of desperation. They immediately sounded better to me. They've lasted me a year and a half so far and show hardly any sign of wear (the wire has faded from brown to a greenish brown for some reason, but that's it). I have no plans of replacing them.
You got a lemon Cole. My bro abused the s*it out of his original M50s until they broke years later, I've had my M50Xs for a few years and I often sleep while wearing them. Neither the hinges nor the cable have given up, and I don't baby them at all. The only crappy components are the headband and the earpads, which suck donkey ass as they peel off in just a year or so.
Mario Paul Hmm Weird. The 50s and MSR-7s still seem much stronger, though.
12:11 Enter Beats by Ronald McDonald.
I don't know why I'm saying this when there is so many other people saying the same thing but considering we have horrible sounding products on the market like beats and skull candy which are just a fashion statement, audio tecnicas are made for sound, and for listing to actual music like mj, queen, Beatle ect with flac quality sound, you can't beat them for the price
Why this video makes me feel that i made a wrong choice.!!! :D
these are very good headphones!
Like he said in the video, these are good studio monitors (even though there are better choices) and they are really flat. If you want enjoyment doing ANYTHING (Music, gaming, podcasts) your choice would be anything but studio monitors.
They're not that flat and can be "fun" depending on your taste. If you enjoy the sound on them, you didn't make a wrong choice. Just because some guy on the internet does not like them it doesn't mean they're bad.
For example I find HD-25s to be really comfortable and I don't get the complaints about clamping force.
try some open headphones, try the philips x2
They are monitoring headphones but they really are headphones you won't find yourself wearing after you get other headphones.
I honestly don't think I've ever seen such a wrong opinion. I love these headphones through-and-through.
Baphomet You could’ve said that you’re fanboying over them since you have them and everyone saying they’re shit is not right.
Like beats owners
Even the M40x is much better than the M50x, IMO.
+JTCPingas Muuuuuuch better, but the build quality is fucking shit. Went through two within 10 months, so AT sent me the M50x's... Immediately sold them.
+YaBoyJDub I have one and it has so much broken parts but AT doesn't respond to me
better than m50x doesn't make m40x a good headphone..haven't touched mine in months
+KrishKrusher Just out of curiosity, which hp's do you own? I'm tying to put up a list of candidates and just recently read things about AT's not being that great. Just wondering if you know some that have clarity and don´t feel like hammer in my ears (just sold my Urbanites XL). Don´t matter if closed or open.
+Pablo Alejo I use IEM,fidue a73 hybrid inear is my main daily driver,also use vsonic vsd5 for portable use.Both are on another level compared to the ath m40x.
I quite enjoy your videos and I have a few good-great sets (B2 Dusk, HD58X, Blon-03, Retros, 75's, TRN MT1's, and the list goes on with more to come) but I just purchased a used set of M50X's and enjoy them. Haven't listened to them enough to write a review, but with the Brainwaves Hybrid ProStock pads on and powering off of my Conexant Cx31993 these seem to sound good. These are really nice for everyday headphones, and I know there are "better"/cheaper sets that might be able to satasfy me more for a bit less or more than I paid for them used ($60 Cad+$40 something Cad for pads) but I really wanted to hear these controversial cans. I can see why many may not like these, however. Unreleated, but my Mom has a set of Oneodio/Oneaudio BT/Wired cans that sounds similar to these.
Zeos, try a set of Philips SHL3300's with HM5 leather pads. $20 CAD headphones. You should be surprised. DO IT.
+Jeff Cook Listening to them as I type. Amazing headphones for the price !
Listen to mine original M50x with theyr second Set of pads every day. No mechanical failure or anything wrong with them. Very good cans, special on my R4. I like them 😁☀️
This video is kind of silly. He rips on the Audio Technica's...a $150ish pair of headphones... They're not meant to compete with HD800s for God's sake. The ATH M50's have solid performance, particularly for their price, making them a good value. I own a pair, and find their sound quality to be quite good. There's a reason why these headphones are so popular. To me, it seems like the reviewer is hating on the 50s because it's "cool" so to speak - he's swimming against the grain if you will - being controversial. There's absolutely no reason why the reviewer should be so absolutely dismissive of the M50s; they're not nearly as bad as he claims.
josh cantin For $150 you can get instead of the M50X:
-Status Audio CB-1
-M40X
-Phillips SHP9500
-Fostex T50Rp (but a mod is needed)
-AKG K553
...and a shit ton of IEMs that still beat the M50s...
The argument of "you're hating on them because they're popular" is invalid, considering the dude has a heard a lot of better stuff. So if you feel offended by this review because it's too harsh on these mediocre headphones, it's not his problem.
I'm not offended, just pointing out the obvious, he's hating on a solid piece of kit because it's "cool" to do so. Him having heard other headphones has nothing to do with my argument. The ATH-M50's have approached near legendary status in terms of performance for price, and to come out and so aggressively berate them indicates clickbait bias.
josh cantin Your comments are pathetic honestly.
m40s ,shp9500,hd 58x,status ob1,cb1,grado sr80es,hd 598,569
he didnt like the 800 or 800s that much lemming
josh cantin someone's mad they own m50x's lol
I got a pair of the M50X and a pair of the ATH-WS1100is Solid Bass for $120.00 at Audio Technica's North American hdq in Ohio, I live a couple of miles from there ... They have a sale once a year open to the public for two days...They are scratch and dent or store returns they look brand new and I haven't seen a mark on them and they sound great ! You can also get brand new untouched box M50X for around $130 bucks I believe...They had a $2.000 pair for $900 and $900 pair for $250.00 I don't remember the modal no# though...
M50x should be definitely classified as the "Anti-Beats" of the headphone market. I go on the train, bus, just almost anywhere in public I see some guy in a trench coat wearing the M50x. Everyone wears them now, and go "Fuck everyone who uses Beats!" in public with these.
+Eddie Barley The irony is, Studio 2's and Solo 2's are better sounding (and much more comfortable) headphones than M50s.
derbigpr500 Dude I tried out the Studio's and thought the comfort was shit. But when I tried my friend's M50x, holy shit, I never thought I'd say this but the Beats studios were definitely more comfortable.
+Eddie Barley I've been known to wear my trench coat while using these out in public... And I hate Beats.
FYI for all Canadians, you can find brand new Momentum V1s in some stores for as low as $105 CAD. Absolute steal.
+Justin Willms Don't leave us hanging like that, which stores? :)
***** The Source had some on clearance for that price, but I think it's quite limited stock at the moment.
+Justin Willms You know that one driver for the Momentum (big one) V2 costs 8 euros, together with the entire baffle and the entire earcup other than the outer decorative part? It's a 300 dollar headphone, and all the parts that matter on it can be bought original from Sennheiser for 5% of the price of the entire headphone. It's not worth it. Get HD380's, HD280's, HD25's, hell even HD7 DJ's or HD8 DJ's instead. Fashion headphones are overpriced, even if they are Sennheisers.
derbigpr500 Literally every headphone in existence has ~90% markup from production cost.
+Justin Willms Not really, a lot is around 50%
for $99 are you sure you didnt get a fake pair, because they love to do that with the m50s
Heard a few pair. All pretty much the same.
You said it perfectly. I've owned these for about a year now, and there's a very fine threshold between way too quiet and painful treble insanity. I wanted to like them, but the mids just don't exist at all when you reach any reasonable listening volume.
Is the msr7 build and sound quality better than this?
SQ yes.. Build yes.
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I buy those because of recommendations all over internet, never had any closed headphones so at first i thought they are awesome but now after 2 years of use i must say that those are called monitors for reason. And i want them for play games and listen for music. i have no idea how other headphones sound. Thank you for review im sad about it but i agree with you. Top head band broke a lot btw. Im not completely dissapointed but now i know i would buy other headphones for my purposes. Will try your recommended earbuds propably.
Heaps of people use headphones that are close enough to the "monitor" term, for listening to music. Depends what you individually prefer.