I felt a bit awkward when I met her and she called me darling especially when I had my wife Jenassa with me. I bet if she could have killed my character, then she might've done it.
Me I just have 6k gold on hand before I start that quest and just do the pay option for all the events during the quest, also I like sanguine the best of the daedra
I use Anise's cabin as a "starting" home for my characters, you can store your loot here and items dont disappear, and its also handy because of the bed and the obvious fact that there is an alchemy and enchanting table to help me out with skills and crafting my things.
idk why i never thought of doing that, just assumed containers would refresh but ive definitely returned and seen it looted as before, so that's interesting. might have to try that on a mage playthrough.
The hagraven named Melka is probably one of my favourite NPCs in the entire game, andwould absolutely be my bridesmaid if I ever would give in and get married to Moira. Just the fact that she actually keeps to her word and gives you the promised reward if you help her, along with a “kill something pretty with it” as she cheerfully waves goodbye to you is just so charming.
I sometimes, when high... think about making videos to put on youtube... that are just me doing Raid Shadow Legends ads... I mean... To save everyone the time of having to watch a whole video surrounding your most favourite ad for a game you've definitely not already seriously fucking heard enough about. You know. What we're all here to watch... Videos for RAID SHADOW LEGENDS! PLAY IT OR THE GIRLS AT SCHOOL WILL MAKE FUN OF YOU AND SAY THINGS ABOUT YOUR WEINER!!!!
I felt bad that I had to get a ring back from that hagraven, I mean, who wouldn't wanna be married to me, the Thane of every hold, leader of multiple factions and on top of that the dragonborn? 😂😖
It's a good thing she was ugly, or players might have made the mistake of trying to stay with her, (If it had been an option, which Unfortently it wasnt, that would have been hilarious) Your know what they saw not to stick in crazy, and that hagraven was cookoo.
Funny thing is she was an easter egg and reference to Moira from fallout 3 because alot of players wanted to marry her,so here they gave us the option even if it was mere dialogue of just that except they replaced moira with a hagraven of the same name 🤣
Firstly, that shy grin at 1:53, adorable. Secondly, with the Hagraves being found at so many different temples for different Daedric God's, could they potentially just worship multiple ones? So got their appearance from Hircine, their blood lust from Namira, and ritual stuff from Peryite. They each get beings to do their bidding and expand their power base. And seeing how tough Hagravens are, makes sense they got some back up from Daedra
With the mention of "training" in that journal it would seem be becoming a hagraven is more of a process that just becoming a werewolf, perhaps involving multiple daedra.
I also like how it seems that hagravens can also have rivalries with each other. I think the one you married accuses you of cheating on her with “that hussy Esmeralda with the glossy feathers”. I really wanted to know more about Esmeralda, and whether she had stolen the hearts (figuratively and/or literally) of our wife’s lovers before.
The quest where you help a hag too in a tower, you found her in a cage, her sister betrayed her and you can help her to kill her sister et regain power over her tower et she gave you a staff
Really funny thing about a night to remember, I'm married to the woman you need to get the ring back for, so that was akward "Hi honey, sorry I married a hagraven, I'll go get that ring now, bye sweetie, muah"
Uh, he's likely got hundreds of hours logged into Skyrim. Anyone who's played Skyrim more than a couple playthroughs knows most of this stuff. Even moreso for those who read the wiki for fun.
The first time I saw one was whilst doing the quest for the whiterun priest, to get the nettlebane. I went to the platform nettlebane, got into a ranged magic fight with the hag and hecking hired thugs attacked me.I dealt with the enemies, went to the chest to get my loot, loot all, the n I was scarred for life, as the words shouted at me: "A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON" I shat myself
That D&D character alignment system was really really good, with far more benefits to it than restrictions. I even roughly use it to categorise people in real life
The Vanna White style advert pleased me greatly lol. Also cheers on making some lore vid for Hagravens! I had a fascination with them and the Reachmen when I met them! Also didn't realize they were in prior books. I used to get bored and read ES3 books, so I'm surprised I missed a lot on them!
Moira was actually an Easter Egg of the Fallout 3 character Moira Brown. Moira Brown became so popular with the fans, Bethesda made you marry her in Skyrim
Glad to see you’re getting some sponsors coming in finally. You should have had many sponsors by now in my opinion. You deserve it, and you deserve to be getting paid soooo much more for all you do for us who will forever love this game, and always watch your videos.
Maybe the reason forsworn and hagravens get along is directly related to the briarheart. Maybe when the human heart is replaced with a briarheart fruit it fulfills the human sacrifice needed to become a hagraven.
I was doing the little quest with the friendly Hagraven and I kept getting scared and accidentally attacking her and her breathing was so uncomfortable.
Actually the first thing I thought when I first encountered a Hagraven on Orphan’s Rock had something to do with that explosive fireball of death that was suddenly hurled at me and blew up in my face. In my first playthrough, I died a few times trying to get through such damaging power
Harpies and hagravens are probably the same type of creature, as they both have the same origin, and become the same type of creature, though harpies seem to be a full transformation where hagravens are a partial transformation. It's either a long process from witch to harpie, or it depends on how much the deity that's responsible for it favors you, or maybe even the ritual itself has something to do with it. You can tell they're the same by the body, as they're still humanoid, except the feet and wings. Except hagravens don't have wings, though they are growing feathers, which implies an incomplete transformation. What makes me think it's down to ritual or the deity's favor of the individual is the fact that hagravens are a hag, which is typically an ugly old witch, and they're always a hag even if they come from a non-hag witch as far as we know. Harpies, though I'm not sure how true this is for TES, are typically not hags, and have a subclass of harpy hag in other properties, which we can assume TES follows similarly in that harpies are not necessarily hags; also from the first clip of the harpies, the trapped ones struggling, those do not look like hags at all. It could also just be a timely process, as we haven't seen the actual transformation. For all we know, hagravens might exist only because the transformation was started from an older witch. Maybe the younger harpies we see started the transformation as a child, and that is why they speak in their own tongue, a tongue that hagravens also seem to know. I would expect the physical transformation would be a thing that happens over time, where the body's structure grows to be that of a harpy/hagraven, and why we see hagravens growing feathers while harpies have wings. This would also explain the theory of a child raven growing to be a harpy, as the child needs to grow anyways, the process is quickened, whereas a hag going through this process is already a grown person and the process would take longer to complete; this could also snowball into why the older witches becoming ravens are hags, as they're older, the process is timely, and the process probably has a huge impact on the body, causing them to turn into hags, which are old, ugly witches. It could also be a combination of both, and the single model of hagraven and single model we see of harpy in TESV and TESO are just one variation of many. I would imagine that each individual is just as unique as their model would be as a typical race-based character. I would also imaging, if it is a process, we'd see multiple steps of that process; similarly for if it's down to the ritual or the deity's favor, we'd see varying levels of success and failure of transformation. I would also assume man, mer, and any other species could also become a raven, as harpies/hagravens are literally mammalian humanoids becoming a mammalian-ave hybrid hybrid; this would also separate harpies and ravens from a true ave humanoid species.
I think the whole creation of hagravens thing is looked at too specifically. Everyone seems to be looking for a single culprit or method, when really every possibility is equally valid. As the saying goes, "there's more than one way to skin a cat."
9:23 So this explains why I got a contract on my head from Moira when I looted Anise's cabin after she died. Doesn't explain who witnessed me though... >.>
nate: "when one first encounters a hagraven, perhaps the most immediate question that comes to mind is "how are these things created" me: *me when i first saw a hagraven* "wtf is this thing?"
Nate! NATE! I cannot believe you didnt mention the 3 witches from Morrowind who turned into Hagravens in Skyrim.... The three hagravens inhabiting the Altar of Thrond Cave (DragonBorn) are the three sisters Isobel, Ettiene, and Fallaise from Bloodmoon expansion from Morrowind. Even if you have previously mentioned them before, I think they deserved a spot here.
Last time I was this early I woke up on the back of the horsecart, bounded hands with a horse thief, a stormcloak agent and the leader of stormcloak with his mouth covered.
I got the game years ago and still haven't passed the main quest yet, I'm taking my time with it and recently started playing again. Thanks for keeping the Skyrim videos coming, it's good to know it's still alive and popular.
@@JaelaOrdo I guess it could be worse. They kinda remind me of my ex, but there's no way in Oblivion that I'd ever want to think what that would make Nazeem.
I love your Lore videos so much, thank you Nate! It was fun learning about the Hagravens, they're some of the most interesting creatures in the game 🦅⚔
good video have loved your videos since the begining but also wanted to say that you did a good job with the sponsor plug is was a little over a minute and not like a quarter of the video! so keep up all the good work! :D and thanks for the entertainment in this tough time.!
Bethesda and / or their Daedric benefactor gave them nice bums with soft white skin and skimpy panties. It's the only thing about them that is nice. Sooooo....maybe a bag over the head, a severe power washing, and a LOT of drink and she might entice some barbarian to come have a look at her only nice goods!! 😂😂
One creepy thing you didn't noticed about Anise. When you loot her place and you have the Heartfire DLC (the one with adoption if I remember well). You find child clothing in her cave. Child clothing...
Great, I was just searching to a video that could help me fall asleep. Not that your videos are boring, you just have a very calming voice. Thanks Nate, love your work. Stay healthy
Near dark water passing (I think, Ill edit after I double check) in one of the basins that the waterfalls fill, there is a dead body with a brick tied to its legs. Edit: yes, it's in the basin right above dark water passing (there is another door there, leading in to dark water passing) it's next to the waterfall closest to the door, beside a boulder. incase you want to make a creepy details, or random mysteries thing.
2:52: When one first encounters a Hagraven, perhaps the most immediate question that comes to mind is, how are these things created? Nah mate my first question was WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
Nate: I noticed that in White River Watch there is a wolf in captivity behind a locked gated door. What is interesting is that if you attack the door with a weapon it opens and the wolf ignores you and attacks any remaining bandits. Have you seen any other doors that acts this way?
And in 2020 he still does skyrim and is still finding things about the game...im happy ya know I usually can't find skyrim vids and you ugh man I love you!!! 😚
It is so comforting, that even in this difficult times Nate never stops digging out more mysteries about our favourite game. Thank you so much for that, brother. You are a light in the darkness. And - speaking of lights - once I found Meridia's beacon in the chest of the Hagraven that I married in my drunk condition......
Last time I was this early, Isobel, Etienne and Fallaise were all human.
Ian Vonfrank nerd
@@adoreilove You're on a Skyrim lore video, please tell me you're joking!
Tha Opps lmao you got destroyed
Stay out of trouble, Argonian
markarth city guard kind of difficult considering your all corrupt. (Sincerly and argonian main)
Sometimes I struggle to sleep at night, too busy laying there thinking, "I wonder how many more things we don't know about skyrim"
A lot, I mean, as Nate says ... Skyrim is a massive game
Hermaeus Mora can answer those questions
Only dive straight into the Abyss
Just be ready to greet madness at the end of your journey
Shut
@@Meekah-rk5kt Imagine liking your own comment, Just like me and the boy's the only one of us who like you is yourself. :/
@@jeffzikiller3890 i love you
Anise is bad because she has an arcane enchanter, strange poisons, spell books and human skulls?
Sounds like every Dragonborn home ever.
Shes a fan
In the words of Nate: he’s not good, he’s just a bad guy- that won.
Yeah
I like to collect skulls and bones i find and stash them in a container near a shrine of arkay or the halls of the dead.
I actually never found Anise's basement lol
Nate: "hagravens are one of the most disgusting creatures ever."
Also Nate: "the first thing you probably wondered was how they are created."
No the most ugliest person is everyone who dislikes Nates video
Nate has obviously never met my sister
The first question I had the first time I saw a Hagraven was, "WHAT THE FÚÇK IS THAT?"
Jaela Komnena yeah she’s disgusting bro
Shadow Bird *General tulius voice*
What in oblivion is that!?
M’aiq once met a hagraven she tried to give M’aiq a weird fruit
5 thing we didnt know of miaq the liar
Does M'aiq have any more "truthful" wisdom for us?
@@trurookiegaming6998 i mean u never know
What do you want... cat?
Take care with those cat people, they are not trustful
Not gonna lie, a night to remember was so good and I almost felt bad for the hagraven you marry.
Yeah shame on the player character.. I also liked the hagraven in that one dungeon who works with you
I felt a bit awkward when I met her and she called me darling especially when I had my wife Jenassa with me. I bet if she could have killed my character, then she might've done it.
@@craigdallas100 when she's done with the hagraven she's coming for you
Yeah, bc she has to put up with the dragonborn's crap
Me I just have 6k gold on hand before I start that quest and just do the pay option for all the events during the quest, also I like sanguine the best of the daedra
I'll be honest, I always felt kind of bad for Moira. I mean, she fell in love only to have them ask for the ring back and kill her.
Doesn't Sanguine rewind the events?
you dont actually have to kill her. just pay for the ring.
Nexisfusion no he just teleport you back to Skyrim
@@spinozilla2421 Though if you revisit Morvunskar afterwards you can see him standing in the room that held his entrance to realm.
That shows you've got a good soul. I salute you for that. Wrong is wrong, regardless who's doing it
I use Anise's cabin as a "starting" home for my characters, you can store your loot here and items dont disappear, and its also handy because of the bed and the obvious fact that there is an alchemy and enchanting table to help me out with skills and crafting my things.
omg this is genius! doing this rn
idk why i never thought of doing that, just assumed containers would refresh but ive definitely returned and seen it looted as before, so that's interesting. might have to try that on a mage playthrough.
What about Sleeping giant inn? The secret room
The hagraven named Melka is probably one of my favourite NPCs in the entire game, andwould absolutely be my bridesmaid if I ever would give in and get married to Moira.
Just the fact that she actually keeps to her word and gives you the promised reward if you help her, along with a “kill something pretty with it” as she cheerfully waves goodbye to you is just so charming.
"The sponsor of this video, Ra-"
-world stops turning, birds stop singing, entire planet holds breath
"'-ycon..."
-collective sigh of relief
I sometimes, when high... think about making videos to put on youtube... that are just me doing Raid Shadow Legends ads... I mean... To save everyone the time of having to watch a whole video surrounding your most favourite ad for a game you've definitely not already seriously fucking heard enough about. You know. What we're all here to watch... Videos for RAID SHADOW LEGENDS! PLAY IT OR THE GIRLS AT SCHOOL WILL MAKE FUN OF YOU AND SAY THINGS ABOUT YOUR WEINER!!!!
@@dhotnessmcawesome9747 my weak simple minded mind is too stupid to understand please explain. But simple
@@Maseruxer Okay... Joke.
@@dhotnessmcawesome9747 i see
@@Maseruxer Excellent! Glad I could help.
“Ugliest and most mysterious”
I don’t think that Nate has seen my created dovahkiin.
I'll one up that, he's never seen Cosnucci The Cabbage.
i don't think Hircine's entirely evil. i think it depends on what kind of day he's having, or how strong his morning coffee was.
Yknow this is a quality comment, go get yourself a donut, man
...Certainly sounds like a deity to me.
He gave me cool werewolf powers if I don't sleep with Muiri, so he's a G.
I felt bad that I had to get a ring back from that hagraven, I mean, who wouldn't wanna be married to me, the Thane of every hold, leader of multiple factions and on top of that the dragonborn? 😂😖
By Shor, you're hauling around a lot of junk. Best stop in at the Arnleif and Sons Trading Company, sell it off.
It's a good thing she was ugly, or players might have made the mistake of trying to stay with her, (If it had been an option, which Unfortently it wasnt, that would have been hilarious)
Your know what they saw not to stick in crazy, and that hagraven was cookoo.
@@DragonGunzDorian SHE WAS BEAUTIFUL 😭
Shon 00 John I see your still drinking with sanguine.
Funny thing is she was an easter egg and reference to Moira from fallout 3 because alot of players wanted to marry her,so here they gave us the option even if it was mere dialogue of just that except they replaced moira with a hagraven of the same name 🤣
Firstly, that shy grin at 1:53, adorable.
Secondly, with the Hagraves being found at so many different temples for different Daedric God's, could they potentially just worship multiple ones? So got their appearance from Hircine, their blood lust from Namira, and ritual stuff from Peryite.
They each get beings to do their bidding and expand their power base. And seeing how tough Hagravens are, makes sense they got some back up from Daedra
With the mention of "training" in that journal it would seem be becoming a hagraven is more of a process that just becoming a werewolf, perhaps involving multiple daedra.
*If you keep calling them CROW hybrids when they have RAVEN in the NAME I'm going to go feral
LOL GOOD POINT
SO AM I
Ravens are a kind of crow. Crow is not only a species of corvid but also the common name for that family.
@@jebuzjaime No Crows and Ravens are different types of corvids. Ravens are much bigger much smarter and much cooler.
@@rayruckus4446 other way around, I’m pretty sure crows are like the size of house cats
I also like how it seems that hagravens can also have rivalries with each other. I think the one you married accuses you of cheating on her with “that hussy Esmeralda with the glossy feathers”. I really wanted to know more about Esmeralda, and whether she had stolen the hearts (figuratively and/or literally) of our wife’s lovers before.
The quest where you help a hag too in a tower, you found her in a cage, her sister betrayed her and you can help her to kill her sister et regain power over her tower et she gave you a staff
Brilliant points. Melka and Petra's rivalry is very typical too of rivalry between wicked beings who routinely cut each other's throats
I'm so lonely from social distancing even a Hag Raven is starting to look like a warm mug of mead on dark cold night. 🤫
Don't, Shield-Brother!! Don't go to the Dark Side!!
No, come join us and become a Pureblood Vampire! Embrace the gift of Molag Bal!
Hurry Shield-Brother, drink the Werewolf blood to be immune to diseases, before it’s too late
@@TaurusTheCrazyBull Well, this escalated quickly. Dawnguard, anyone? Or maybe Sovngarde?
NO! Raise your standards! Who knows what you'll catch from those bird brains...
Last time I was this early, Whiterun guards had never heard of curved swords.
Curved? Swords?
@@trurookiegaming6998 It goes more like CURVED. SWORDS.
_ _ _ _ _ _ swords
@@genzu6388 erectt swords
Curved! Swords!
Nate, you have me saying murdered to death whenever I talk about killing NPCs. Thank you haha love your videos.
I've done the same in my D&D games and had to explain myself. haha
Thats awesome, I do it in GURPS but my friends are used to such wordplay and don't miss a beat.
Alduin was murdered to death
Really funny thing about a night to remember, I'm married to the woman you need to get the ring back for, so that was akward
"Hi honey, sorry I married a hagraven, I'll go get that ring now, bye sweetie, muah"
“It’s all good honey, I’m Mormon”
Foxiana 123 “I’m married to the woman...”
Poor Ysolda. Hahaha
@@doubtful_seer yeah xD
@@doubtful_seer but the best part of being married to ysolda is that it let me know that you can be a lesbian in Skyrim xD
@@queenfopsie5442 true, my bisexual heart was so happy. she was my wife in my very first playthrough.
Sometimes I wonder how Nate knows all this information. I swear that he is the modern day Herma Mora.
How do you know he's not
He literally made a video talking about himself, he just hid it with the character that he is based off knowledge wise, Hermaeus Mora
@@catgirllover5859 because Hermaeus has Infinite knowledge and Nate has gotten quite a few of these "little things" wrong
@Thibault Derese UESP is a way better source than Wikipedia. Or at least use the Fandom wiki.
Uh, he's likely got hundreds of hours logged into Skyrim. Anyone who's played Skyrim more than a couple playthroughs knows most of this stuff. Even moreso for those who read the wiki for fun.
4:29
" Creator of Werewolves, Werebears, and *Weresharks.* "
Me: Umhhhhh, excuse me. WTF!?
On the full moon, you turn into a shark and suffocate.
It is said that weresharks are in the lore as well as snow whales.
Daggerfall had wereboars as well
@@sunset4753 snow whales are extinct tho
Nate is looking like a highscool cool kid with his new "rocking" headphones
True, and he looks far too young for that deep voice of his, my brain is finding it hard to compute.
I misheard the promotion and thought you were sponsored by Raytheon. I was like tf is he going to advertise, ballistic missiles?
No, portable ballistic missiles
I mean Ive seen the literal army sponsor people
First time i saw a hagraven I said "what the hell is you?!"
The first time I saw one was whilst doing the quest for the whiterun priest, to get the nettlebane. I went to the platform nettlebane, got into a ranged magic fight with the hag and hecking hired thugs attacked me.I dealt with the enemies, went to the chest to get my loot, loot all, the n I was scarred for life, as the words shouted at me: "A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON"
I shat myself
@@genzu6388 F
Maybe the hagraven had the boy before she was turned
I have learned it from Nate, but there is something that I really do think of a lot...
Skyrim is a massive, obscure, gigantic,
enormous game
There is 1 thing that Nate has taught me...
I should got to Raycon.com/TheEpicNate315 for 15% OFF!
Taught*
@@Justin-pe9cl knowledged*
4:22 Hircine is definitely not evil, he is among minority of the more benign although to a degree, more like True Neutral in D&D terms.
That D&D character alignment system was really really good, with far more benefits to it than restrictions.
I even roughly use it to categorise people in real life
The Vanna White style advert pleased me greatly lol.
Also cheers on making some lore vid for Hagravens! I had a fascination with them and the Reachmen when I met them!
Also didn't realize they were in prior books. I used to get bored and read ES3 books, so I'm surprised I missed a lot on them!
seeing a hagraven -
nate: hmm, I wonder how this is created?
Cicero and me: STAB STAB STAB HAHAHA!!!
LETS.. GO... MUG EM'
Moira was actually an Easter Egg of the Fallout 3 character Moira Brown. Moira Brown became so popular with the fans, Bethesda made you marry her in Skyrim
Glad to see you’re getting some sponsors coming in finally. You should have had many sponsors by now in my opinion. You deserve it, and you deserve to be getting paid soooo much more for all you do for us who will forever love this game, and always watch your videos.
I always look forward to watching these videos, especially at such a hard time now. Thanks Nate.
Nate, my first question when I encountered them was, "WHAT IN THE NAME OF OBLIVION IS THAT?"
Couldn’t the hagraven from “a life barbaric and brutal” have had the kid before she became a hagraven? That’s what I assumed
I was actually binge watching some old theepicnate videos when I got the notification
Same lol
me too
Anise is also a type of Hag from D&D. An old woman that is secretly a grotesque monster that is skilled with magic.
Who remembers that quest,” A Night To Remember” where you married a hagraven?
She was fine as divine wine
Who doesn’t remember that quest?
I member
@@diobrando9685 yea I member, member jaba the hutt?
It is a weird quest lol
I always wanted to become a hagraven my characters were always witches.
Name checks out.
Same! Closest I got was a polymorph mod
You wanted to marry one too, if I recall correctly 😁
Honestly I can't get enough of your videos. Skyrim is my #1 game and after all these years you keep it interesting. I thank you, Dovahkiin 🙏🏻💕
Maybe the reason forsworn and hagravens get along is directly related to the briarheart. Maybe when the human heart is replaced with a briarheart fruit it fulfills the human sacrifice needed to become a hagraven.
IDK of you've seen it by now, but there's a Forsworn dungeon you can explore where you can find two Hagravens in the middle of creating a briarheart.
I was doing the little quest with the friendly Hagraven and I kept getting scared and accidentally attacking her and her breathing was so uncomfortable.
Actually the first thing I thought when I first encountered a Hagraven on Orphan’s Rock had something to do with that explosive fireball of death that was suddenly hurled at me and blew up in my face. In my first playthrough, I died a few times trying to get through such damaging power
Harpies and hagravens are probably the same type of creature, as they both have the same origin, and become the same type of creature, though harpies seem to be a full transformation where hagravens are a partial transformation. It's either a long process from witch to harpie, or it depends on how much the deity that's responsible for it favors you, or maybe even the ritual itself has something to do with it.
You can tell they're the same by the body, as they're still humanoid, except the feet and wings. Except hagravens don't have wings, though they are growing feathers, which implies an incomplete transformation.
What makes me think it's down to ritual or the deity's favor of the individual is the fact that hagravens are a hag, which is typically an ugly old witch, and they're always a hag even if they come from a non-hag witch as far as we know. Harpies, though I'm not sure how true this is for TES, are typically not hags, and have a subclass of harpy hag in other properties, which we can assume TES follows similarly in that harpies are not necessarily hags; also from the first clip of the harpies, the trapped ones struggling, those do not look like hags at all.
It could also just be a timely process, as we haven't seen the actual transformation. For all we know, hagravens might exist only because the transformation was started from an older witch. Maybe the younger harpies we see started the transformation as a child, and that is why they speak in their own tongue, a tongue that hagravens also seem to know. I would expect the physical transformation would be a thing that happens over time, where the body's structure grows to be that of a harpy/hagraven, and why we see hagravens growing feathers while harpies have wings. This would also explain the theory of a child raven growing to be a harpy, as the child needs to grow anyways, the process is quickened, whereas a hag going through this process is already a grown person and the process would take longer to complete; this could also snowball into why the older witches becoming ravens are hags, as they're older, the process is timely, and the process probably has a huge impact on the body, causing them to turn into hags, which are old, ugly witches.
It could also be a combination of both, and the single model of hagraven and single model we see of harpy in TESV and TESO are just one variation of many. I would imagine that each individual is just as unique as their model would be as a typical race-based character. I would also imaging, if it is a process, we'd see multiple steps of that process; similarly for if it's down to the ritual or the deity's favor, we'd see varying levels of success and failure of transformation. I would also assume man, mer, and any other species could also become a raven, as harpies/hagravens are literally mammalian humanoids becoming a mammalian-ave hybrid hybrid; this would also separate harpies and ravens from a true ave humanoid species.
I think the whole creation of hagravens thing is looked at too specifically. Everyone seems to be looking for a single culprit or method, when really every possibility is equally valid. As the saying goes, "there's more than one way to skin a cat."
"Anise is no innocent old woman, she is a witch."
Throw her into the pond!
Am I the only one who doesn’t skip the sponsorship In his vids he just got a unique sound in his voice
bryant lasseter for me it’s second nature to double tap my screen when someone says first a word from our sponsor
The sponsorship!!!! My guy!!! Congratulations that's awesome. That's how you know you made it!! Also i liked the modeling haha xD
9:23 So this explains why I got a contract on my head from Moira when I looted Anise's cabin after she died. Doesn't explain who witnessed me though... >.>
Nate, I love all of these videos but I’m waiting for immersive mods 15!
Soon! I get a little carried away ;)
I always pictured A Night to Remember as some crazy Vegas shit you do while on drugs.
dude. You deserve a million subs. You have to be my favorite Skyrim youtuber ever.
Just use the secret passcode:
"Hands off"
Hell yeah i love mans1ay3er
Me too😂😂😂
Welcome to the internet *AYYYYYYYYEEEEE*
Whenever I go to Whiterun I always have to pay a visit to Jarl Ballin. 😂😂
You're lying, Morgan!
nate: "when one first encounters a hagraven, perhaps the most immediate question that comes to mind is "how are these things created"
me: *me when i first saw a hagraven* "wtf is this thing?"
Burning Ace Me: I wonder if I can kill it
He can’t hear the hag ravens because he has Raycons on
Nate! NATE! I cannot believe you didnt mention the 3 witches from Morrowind who turned into Hagravens in Skyrim....
The three hagravens inhabiting the Altar of Thrond Cave (DragonBorn) are the three sisters Isobel, Ettiene, and Fallaise from Bloodmoon expansion from Morrowind.
Even if you have previously mentioned them before, I think they deserved a spot here.
Last time I was this early I woke up on the back of the horsecart, bounded hands with a horse thief, a stormcloak agent and the leader of stormcloak with his mouth covered.
I got the game years ago and still haven't passed the main quest yet, I'm taking my time with it and recently started playing again. Thanks for keeping the Skyrim videos coming, it's good to know it's still alive and popular.
I call them Nazeem's mothers
Damn...
That tru tho...
Why? Are their nests in the Cloud District, by any chance?
They kinda remind me of my mom. Wait, does that make Nazeem my half brother? 🤮
@@JaelaOrdo I guess it could be worse. They kinda remind me of my ex, but there's no way in Oblivion that I'd ever want to think what that would make Nazeem.
Not even hagravens are cruel enough to create him.
my totally legit headcanon: hircine, namira and peryite met up, got drunk and invented hagravens as a joke
That was the cutest sponsored ad ever
I quite literally watch these to sleep at night and I say thank you Nate. You have made sleep bearable and interesting
"Need something?"
Wait I know you
Actually yes, you see, someone stole my sweet roll...
here, take this belly full of mead
No lollygagging.
Help some one stole my sweetroll
Stabs you with arrow in the knee
I love your Lore videos so much, thank you Nate! It was fun learning about the Hagravens, they're some of the most interesting creatures in the game 🦅⚔
Last time I was this early, all those hagravens were still marriable
...
Was this a bug in early skyrim?
@@Mothigans_Maddness I think he means they were still human
What do you mean were ?
A funny observation: Hagravens probably can’t wear Raycons without external ear flaps
He really pronounces the letter 'e' at the ends of words🤣
EEEEeeee.....
The way he speaks drives me insane if I pay attention.
Abalus Dumblydore Reeeeee
I forgot how cute you are Nate!
Keep up the good work and thanks for making quarantine bearable.
14:00 don't talk to me or my daughter ever again
good video have loved your videos since the begining but also wanted to say that you did a good job with the sponsor plug is was a little over a minute and not like a quarter of the video! so keep up all the good work! :D and thanks for the entertainment in this tough time.!
Do hagravens lay eggs and if so could we eat one? I'm asking for an bosmer.
Would your bosmer friend want those scrambled or sunnyside up?
*Faendal sweats nervously*
Because mixing something as harmless as an old woman with a cute fluffy bird can only result in *nightmare fuel.*
"Fowl Beings..." I see what you did there.
fowl or foul....I made my choice
5 things they never told you about The Frostbite Spiders
Plz make that next
Last time I was this early emperor Titus mede the 2nd was still alive
I’m late, but man I just wanna day I’m proud of you for coming this far man. Been watching since the beginning
The hag-raven with a son may well have born him as a human witch, before undergoing her transformation, you know.
Bethesda and / or their Daedric benefactor gave them nice bums with soft white skin and skimpy panties. It's the only thing about them that is nice.
Sooooo....maybe a bag over the head, a severe power washing, and a LOT of drink and she might entice some barbarian to come have a look at her only nice goods!! 😂😂
If that's you in the sponsor ad Nate, you're lookin like an absolute god, keep it up my man
One creepy thing you didn't noticed about Anise. When you loot her place and you have the Heartfire DLC (the one with adoption if I remember well). You find child clothing in her cave.
Child clothing...
Great, I was just searching to a video that could help me fall asleep. Not that your videos are boring, you just have a very calming voice. Thanks Nate, love your work. Stay healthy
Near dark water passing (I think, Ill edit after I double check) in one of the basins that the waterfalls fill, there is a dead body with a brick tied to its legs.
Edit: yes, it's in the basin right above dark water passing (there is another door there, leading in to dark water passing) it's next to the waterfall closest to the door, beside a boulder. incase you want to make a creepy details, or random mysteries thing.
"Before we dive into the darkness of this game" had me D E D 🤣🤣🤣
Welcome N'wahs. This is where I disappeared to. I, Vivec, am Nate in Disguise!
How's the city going? Still a huge fuckin crater?
@@metetural9140 yup...
@@vivec5701 yeah maybe you shouldn't of I dunno betrayed Neravar
2:52: When one first encounters a Hagraven, perhaps the most immediate question that comes to mind is, how are these things created?
Nah mate my first question was WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
Damn I'm earlier then parents at the airport lmao
wolfie gurl🐺 Last time I was this late, the Great War was already over
This “secrets of ...” series is definitely one of your best. Keep me coming my dude!
The only real answer is Todd Howard..
Todd Howard IS the dark force
Nate: I noticed that in White River Watch there is a wolf in captivity behind a locked gated door. What is interesting is that if you attack the door with a weapon it opens and the wolf ignores you and attacks any remaining bandits. Have you seen any other doors that acts this way?
I never liked ravens and when I saw a person/raven I said nope nope nope and ran out the cave in skyrim
6:30 " Well, I guess for now... we'll never know". Great line.
I'm having an epic time during this epidemic, stuck in my room playing skyrim all day and watching youtube.
10:03 the Dragonborn holds his war axe backwards like a cool guy.
wait, was this a face reveal???
Yup
No he's shown his face before
No it isn't he's shown his face before on his Instagram I think
Always puts a smile on my face when I see Nate has uploaded a new video.
Last time I was this early I gave a crap about Faendal
That's too bad. If you had been just a tad earlier, you could have given a crap about Sven, too.
One of my biggest pet peeves to this day about this game is that you can't reveal both their misdoings.
And in 2020 he still does skyrim and is still finding things about the game...im happy ya know I usually can't find skyrim vids and you ugh man I love you!!! 😚
Here’s the real question what type of sick man would love a hagraven
Love is blind?
A Falmer
Deadly drunk?
Statistically there has to be at least one person who would totally fuck a Hagraven.
Ur dad
The skyrim community: hey Nate how many videos are you going to make about skyrim?
Nate:yes
”They mate with human males” So you say there’s a chance?
Oh... OH GOD NO
You can do better 😂
It is so comforting, that even in this difficult times Nate never stops digging out more mysteries about our favourite game. Thank you so much for that, brother. You are a light in the darkness. And - speaking of lights - once I found Meridia's beacon in the chest of the Hagraven that I married in my drunk condition......