The Wild and Wacky Tale of Dean Ambrose (Jon Moxley) in WWE
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- How did Dean Ambrose (AEW's Jon Moxley) have one of the most decorated, yet most frustrating and unrealized runs in recent WWE history? Let's find out when I take a look back at the highs and lows of his run!
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To fair to Mox, even Stone Cold has said that he feels extremely bad about that podcast and that he didn't do him any favors with the talking points he had lined up because WWE restricted what he could talk about.
I wish they would collab again sometime. Austin talking with him about leaving WWE and his new life in AEW with occasional bouts in Japan and how things have changed as a family man and sober parent
@@richborn6700 AWE aew the company where the wash up wwe guys go
@@jrock69
You drones are always right on queue 😂
It’s not like WWE’s top babyface right now is one of those “washed up guys” who rose to prominence after leaving WWE right?
@@jrock69 Funny how the "washed up WWE guys" usually tend to do better in AEW than WWE, isn't it? It's almost like WWE washes people up because it doesn't know how to use talent when it gets it. WWE made Dean Ambrose a joke, AEW made Jon Moxley a megastar. Even Chris Jericho is having one of the best runs of his entire 30+ year career in AEW after WWE completely dropped the ball on him.
I recall Mox saying he specifically asked the producers to not discuss his childhood and had a few topics he didn’t want touched. And one of the first things brought up (through no fault of Austin) was his childhood and Mox immediately shut off after that. Which lead to the massive dumpster fire it was. Idk if Austin still does a podcast but I really feel those two need to have an interview again at some point
I mean to be fair, Steve Austin himself said that he feels extremely guilty about the podcast since the questions he had lined up for Jon didn't help with how little Dean could talk about due to restrictions.
Maybe, Joshua.
Not in his defense- listening to Moxley yammer about anything is an excruciating experience… but I guess if you like his wrestling, he must come off as a nobel laureate poet…
@Charlie F sorry you feel that way mate.
@@therealangelalexander1858 I know… I wish I felt different, but to each his own I guess. :/
@@str.77I see what you did there 😂
I remember how initially when the Shield debuted everyone thought Dean Ambrose was going to be the breakout star. Even WWE presented him that way - He was the only one who got a singles championship reign, took part in that year’s MITB and even went one-on-one with the Undertaker. Then something changed (probably Vince’s mind) and Roman started to get pushed as THE guy.
Ironically though, the guy who ultimately broke out as champion the first was Seth.
Ambrose was the leader of the group, that's why he got the singles title. I don't think that necessarily means Ambrose was initially planned for the biggest push
@@ClaraFinn Only the guy meant to get a singles push would be positioned as the leader, right? Like Barrett was for the Nexus?
Roman was ALWAYS pegged to be the star of the group, I suspect that's why Vince shot down Chris Hero's involvement in the first place. Dean was simply the leader of the group because he was the best for it at the time of the Shield's debut considering Roman was BY FAR the greeenest of the group and he wouldn't have worked in that role early on.
Once Roman started to come into his own in Early 2014 he became The Shield's de facto leader.
@@ritangshubhattacharya1654 Not necessarily. While it’s not what they ended up doing, a surefire way of building a great new babyface star is have them rebel against the domineering heel leader of their stable. Ambrose being a heel leader of the shield who treats Reigns like shit and soon causing the fans to organically start cheering for Reigns could’ve been a great way to start his face run with him eventually turning on Ambrose.
I think a lot of people expected Ambrose to be the heel and Rollins/Reigns faces post breakup.
Ambrose was not set up to be the breakout star of the Shield. They gave him the US title because it is a mid-card title and that's how they saw him, as a mid-card talent who could also be put in main event spots when needed. They never wanted him to be the main event star though. It was always Roman Reigns, and then Seth won them over eventually to get the push first while they worked the fans up for Roman. They always saw Dean as the lesser of the three. It was obvious who the fans thought was the star, but Vince doesn't care what the fans think. He wants to shove whoever he personally wants to be the face of the company down everyone's throats lol.
In retrospect, Moxley's first feud with Omega was basically him killing Dean Ambrose. Omega was someone who actually embraced a lot of the wacky elements that were there for Ambrose, so it was almost like Moxley destroying what he saw himself as previously.
That’s deep. Absolutely true though.
The closest we ever got to Moxley in WWE was that championship match against HHH (fastlane I think).. Limb targeting, stalking Trips while he was on top.. Probably my favorite singles match of his in WWE
Yea just tell the story to yourself because Tony can't book for shit
And now he completely sucks. He's just terrible.
@@grammysworld5449 That's such an overlooked and underrated match. Also, I really enjoyed his last man standing match with KO at the 2016 Royal Rumble. I'm not usually a fan of LMS matches but that was a really well executed one. People also forget he was the first opponent in John Cena's US Championship open challenge and really set the tone for that entire concept. He had some excellent moments but man he was held back far too much for someone of his charisma and ability. Here's the thing, it's not like he had to do a bunch of extreme matches or anything. If Vince had just let him execute the original concept Jon had for the character of Dean Ambrose after The Shield broke up, which was a facsimile of John McClane, it would've been amazing. Vince just couldn't help himself though. He had to give him the wacky shit. What's worse is Vince really thought Dean was popular because of that wacky shit and not because the audience saw the potential behind the nonsense.
Being an Ambrose fan was rewading for like 9 months out of the entire 7 years.
So glad Moxley rose from those ashes.
Even though he was thrown under the bus i enjoyed his 2013-2017 run.
Dean was better
same bro, i loved Dean Ambrose but they just kept screwing him over and over again, hopefully when Jon Moxly comes back to WWE (its eventually gonna happen) they book him properly and make him an unbeatable force.
@@alizali2223 I dont think he will. He seems to HATE WWEs creative process
Unfortunately, Jonathan Good enjoys trashy hardcore wrestling. He needs WWE to discipline him, otherwise he'll just bleed every match. It's not that he isn't talented, he's just... let's put it this way... not the smartest guy arround
Yay finally another bio type video chronicling a wrestler’s time in a company! It’s been a while since Brian did these types of videos!
Still waiting for the one on Mr. Kennedy. Kennedy.
This might be a stupid question but what the May 19th reference?
@@howardsimcox5596 it’s a Kane reference. His movie See No Evil came out on May 19th and the E did an entire angle where anytime someone said that date (May 19th!!) Kane went crazy. It was an infamous angle but kinda fun.
I missed these kind of videos
Billy Kidman soon i am no longer asking!!!!🙏
Small correction, the Battleground match with the Rhodeses was just a 2v2, Reigns and Rollins vs. Cody and Goldust. Ambrose was managing the Shield the same way Dusty was managing his sons.
You're one hundred percent right I was there Buffalo New York
Remember when everyone thought him leaving WWE was all a work?
Well in fairness WWE normally doesn't publicly announce that someone is leaving or hold a f***ing PPV that was called 'The Final Chapter' designed to send said talent off.
Hell 90% of wrestling promotions on the whole normally don't advertise that a talent is leaving the promotion unless said talent is retiring. "The Shield's Final Chapter" remains one of the most bizarre shows they've ever done especially in hindsight of Johnathan Good going to AEW.
Long term story tell. Just wait for the ultimate pay off. 😌😌🤣🤣🤣
Alot of people always thinks it's a work whenever someone leaves
Fans always think everyone leaving is a work. Remember when everyone was saying Cody Rhodes leaving aew was a work.
Speak for yourself
That kick off with Foley was such a great way to bring him in.
2k19 was his last WWE game apperance.
He's probably gonna be in AEW fight
Forever.
@@nehemiahpouncey3607 if it ever comes out
There was more to it, I think AJ Lee would've eventually been his sidekick like Harley Quinn.
@@GBTwelveSixteen Yes, it did come out that he would've then debuted as AJ's loony mate and feud with Bryan.
What the May 19th reference, I feel stupid 4 not knowing
It still feels weird how, even in the 2010s, we still have to worry about VHS-level quality of videos. You can COUNT the pixels in that Foley/Ambrose stare-down. XD
That one was shot on a cell phone so that’s the main reason the video was bad.
@@thetribalist6923 Exactly. People got lazy in the 2010s, and early mobile technology wasn't great either, so now there's a decade of early 21st C. time where everything on video looks wonky and hard to watch and visually horrible because hardware hadn't caught up to file-sharing, streaming, multimedia transfer etc. It's weird, sometimes you'll find much higher and smoother quality transfers from pristine 90s/early 2000s tapes than you will from the late 200s/early mid 2010s.
Your average early 2010s cell phone quality wasn't that great. Most people had barely just started getting smart phones around that time.
Based on the MITB briefcase that squirted slime and the exploding TV, I think Vince McMahon's booking of Dean Ambrose was inspired by Nickelodeon and Looney Tunes Acme Corporation respectively.
A sad, lonely, Vince, in a dimly lit office, watching that episode of Double Dare with Gorilla and The Brain on a ten dollar television that still has knobs and dials.
Considering Vince's secret obsession with Mighty Mouse, that wouldn't surprise me.
Mox: are you callin me a liar?
Bray: i ain't callin you a truther!!
@@dr.snakes 😆😆
but it was SUCH GOOD SHIT, PAL!!
That Stone Cold podcast appearance physically hurt. I got bummed out as they went along.
Best thing Moxley got out of this WWE run? His beautiful and lovely wife Renee.
Now I'm reminded about how Dean Ambrose really was a watered down version of Jon Moxley when he was in the WWE.
What WWE could have done for him instead of pushing Roman
@@ericthomas917 I wish he would have won the 2015 Rumble.
He was a pink haired jobber in WWE.
Gotta cut that strong stuff with a ton of water, pal... We ain't doing this for the fans, it's about the stock price! Get them profits up $$$
@@ericthomas917
Moxley has seen what the WWE wanted to do for him and he left. He hated the WWE creative and the scripted BS. It has nothing to do with Roman.
After listening to mox's book, it gave me such an appreciation for him. He seems like a solid dude.
I liked Mitch The Plant. Dean sold it like "Fine I'll leave!" as he grabbed Mitch and kinda sadly walked away. I like the idea that he had no cool set so he spruced it up with a nice plant and took it with him when he got cancelled.
The way Jericho pissed and moaned about all the Mitch posts was gold.
I loved the promos he was cutting in the shield with a quiet voice. Then when he was solo he wasn’t allowed to cut those Jake Robert’s type promos. He had to be crazy all the time.
As someone who was a huge Ambrose fan through his years at WWE I only have one word for watching his career there... Frustrating.
I was a huuuuuge Ambrose fan during this time. I was a teenager and freaked out when he won the MitB and the title
Honestly, being reminded how he was winless and just falling short for a while had me thinking how did I manage being an Ambrose fan for such a long time. I guess it just had to do with the fact he was my favorite member of the Shield and I believed in them pushing him to be a big name like Seth and Roman are right now. I feel like if the cards are played right and when Mox feels like it’s time to come back to the E, they can have the former trio face off one last time for the Tribal Chief’s championship and determine who is the true face of the Shield
He was more talented than Rollins and Reigns but wwe ignored him
Hearing some of his points just remind me how bad I wanted dean to win and he just wasn’t able too
The Inter-Consulation title. I love it.
If I recall, Dean had 3 title defenses. He defended the title against Seth Rollins in a banger of a match on the Smackdown before the triple threat.
They fought for the title on both the Smackdown and Raw before Battleground, with the first one ending in a no contest after a double pin.
I was at WM32 and I remember the big screen told the crowd to chant “WHOOOOOO” during Charlotte’s match.
As much as I wanted to see Dean Ambrose get to the top of WWE. I am glad he went to AEW, he going there has gotten me into watching AEW. I watch AEW now, and may not have without the intrigue of seeing an unleashed Moxley. Now I have discovered a whole new group of wrestlers like Starks, MJF, Jungle Boy, Acclaimed, Wardlow, Hobbs, Hangman, Omega, Bucks, Lucha Bros, Top Flight, Thunder Rosa, Hayter, Baker, and many more.
🔥
25:20
I hate how that’s not a random reaction clip. That is the actual on-screen explanation for Dean’s character regression.
I graduated high school on the day of MITB 2016. I feel a kinship with Mox/Ambrose because we both had a great day that kicked off a run of disappointment and frustration _on the very same day_
lol zoomer
6:14 this is gonna sound hella depressing but that battle royale match on raw (I think they did one on sd too but i'm not sure) is one of the last memories I have whilst at my grandma's house before she passed away due to cancer so I'll always remember that battle royale lol
Looking back, it really is kind of amazing that he lasted as long as he did within the WWE system considering hie style on the indies, shows they saw value in him, just not nearly as much as they did with Roman or Seth. And it's also a credit to him being able to adjust for as long as he did.
He is living his best life now and I think it wa important to highlight the good and bad. We'll see him again in WWE when they do the HoF induction for The Shield in however many years, but I do not ever see a full in ring return for him.
I think he gets inducted solo too. Probably won’t be the main event induction but I can’t think of a world champ that hasn’t gone in the Hall.
When you look back at his CZW tapes etc. it's completely insane he was ever considered employable by the company at all. His resume is absolutely not what they typically look for or want. I would be interested to know what the behind-the-scenes negotiations were like to bring him in and spit-shine him for Vince's appraisal.
He signed a massive contract renewal last Fall and even has an official behind the scenes role in AEW now. Definitely do not expect to ever see him inside a WWE ring again until that induction.
That C.M. Punk sound bite at 3:42 would be even better if Brian Zane was able to attach the clip of Bret Hart saying "Shadup" from Wrestling Bios Reliving the War series.
Brian is a jam-up guy
@@trunter20 He's got the jam, unlike some dirty, stinkin' hyenas might wanna say
Between pay-per-view revisits and "Wild and Wacky Tails", I think you've got a whole new series of videos here, sir.
From what I remember the reason why Ambrose acted the way he did on the Stone Cold podcast was because he really couldn't talk about what he really wanted to. Like his last drug abuse and all that bc he was the face of WWE at the time and he knew the higher ups wouldn't have been happy about that.
very mature of him to act out because he couldn't talk about his drug abuse 🙄
That and they mentioned his childhood which he was not okay with so he shutdown
@@megsley huh?
must've been frustrating that sc was probing him with personal questions constantly, knowing that he couldn't really answer honestly
That whole segment from 22:18-23:13
naming the reasons why the shield reunion didn't pay off like it should is why I love this channel!
Baby Face Zane, you're alright.
The shield was on the final issue of WWE
Magazine.
They even became jerks of the month.
@@nehemiahpouncey3607 checks out
@@pendafen7405 like how on their jerks
of the month photo they look like they
Were bout to kill the guy taking the
Photo.
Man Dean Ambrose and Dolph Ziggler really interacted a lot more than I remembered
Proof Ziggler can make anyone look good
Fellow UO alum here,
Just wanted to say I love these type of videos - awesome work!!
Discovered Wrestling with Wregret about 10 years ago when I was 12, and been a subscriber ever since. I don’t watch as much wrestling nowadays and lots of wrestling channels have fallen out my rotation, but I always come to you, Brian.
Hope to be a fan for another 10 years!
Thanks for being a fan all these years! So much of what I learned about video editing, I learned in Allen Hall 😄
21:06 Trust me, Dean in a bear suit is much better than Mox in a bear suit.
Well...at least it was more child friendly
25:45 really didn't age well...
The segment where Dean puts slime in the mitb briefcase was only funny because of the look on deans face after the slime shoots out of the briefcase. Priceless 😂
25:48 years later…we had no idea how long that list actually was
Yeah I don’t understand why they treated Dean how they did. Especially towards the end. Like I’ve never seen a company try so hard to make someone look bad.
WWE and Vince are petty like that, they even almost had Dean feud with Nia Jax for fucks sake
never? zack ryder? kaval/lowki? when he won nxt season 2. theyll make anyone look like shit if they dont mentally break u and turn u into a kiss ass
For what it's worth, the fans refused to boo him despite the nonsense booking he received towards the end. Surely didn't help that AEW was preparing to launch at the same time and there were lots of rumors of some WWE talent wanting out before Double or Nothing that year.
it is their typical character assassination when someone is WAY MORE POPULAR than their chosen one.
@@Venom-lr3sq it’s almost like they book good by accident and then try to fix it with bad booking 😂😂😂😂
For real tho, 2015-2019 WWE was just so bad for Dean. Creative could have absolutely booked him in the title picture for YEARS had it been headed by Hunter. If he ever decides to come back, I hope they give him the Cody treatment. "Death Rider" Jon Moxley can work in the WWE space, he's already proved more than enough that he can hang with the legends of NJPW.
2015 til the thunderdome ended was the absolute worst creative has been in the history of the wwe
@@heyyoitsmebrian Nah, 2016 was one of the company's best years creatively. Smackdown during the first 7 months of the brand split was must-watch, and Raw wasn't too bad either. Hell, I'd even say that things started getting good the night after Wrestlemania 32, with a fantastic Roman-Styles program for the belt as well as a great IC title scene shared between Miz, Zayn, Owens, and Cesaro.
@@aidanator8008 i think youre conflating "creative" with roster. just because the IC title scene has guys you like in it, doesnt mean that "creative" is good. there are def plenty of matches from 2016 that are amazing, but im not going to give "creative" any credit
How? I get if you're poking at certain storylines. But with how you've worded your comment, it'd be as if he won NO titles. When at a point, he went from Money in the bank, to WWE title, to IC title, to then tag titles, and tag titles again, then the IC title again.
Again, I get his last story was poor. But he was constantly in title pictures. Stuff that some wrestlers could only dream of. Beforehand, I'd say yeah, it looks bad. But during that run, he was constantly involved in title, after title.
Jon Moxley wouldn't work in wwe they wouldn't let him be himself at all thy would want him to turn it down
Can we admire that Brian Zane didn’t change his attire doing the RR Review the RR 01 and now this!? LoL
With how great Mox has been in AEW, it is safe to say WWE really dropped the ball with him. He has become the undisputed ace of the company and is the guy they call upon when shit hits the fan. His debut at Double or Nothing took the wrestling world by surprise and his various feuds with Kenny and Jericho have really shown what he is capable of.
Dean Ambrose is like the awkward middle evolution of a starter Pokemon. Is in between the novelty of the first years of Moxley, and the fully realised main eventer Jon Moxley of AEW.
That's a great way to put in. Jon Moxley was in that Wade Barret category in which he was a Charmeleon that would never be a Charizard.
Current Moxley has no dimensions to his character or his matches. Jon Moxley on the Indies had a fleshed out character with dynamic promos, telling really interesting stories. He was a believable character of an unhinged guy who had a tough upbringing. He is now just a recovering alcoholic who has replaced booze with razor blades and thinks he's Stone Cold.
@@jackhughes7637 Yeah I agree, one has to wonder if he has any passion left. LIke he will say he does, but his work has been awful for a year and half. He doesn't sell, he doesn't cut promos. He just runs a group with no purpose...
@@athanaskozhuharov9700 Exactly... The guy lost the thing that was driving him when he was in his 20s
@@jackhughes7637 you can blame WWE for that. he lost the passion and motivation after Wrestlemania 32
Man, Dean Ambrose post-Shield run was weird, wasn’t it?
P.S. Who had the most boring championship reign? Dean Ambrose U.S. Championship or Brother Devon’s TNA Television Championship?
Wardlow's TNT championship reign
@@730F-Sport I said boring not disappointing.
Man, it’s so nice knowing that my Birthday will forever be overshadowed by Kane‘s obsession with it -.-
I really believe that the night the shield was supposed to break up the way went down backstage was
Vince to Roman & Seth: "OK after this break-up going forward you two I'm going to be my top guys"
Dean: And me?
Vince: yeaaa, we'll find something for ya, Pal 🤷🏾♂️
My first wrestling show was WrestleMania in 2017, so I didn’t know anything about Ambrose prior to that until listening to his book (which he narrates)
I had no idea about the whole Mick Foley thing until the book, and man that (and everything else in there) just made me appreciate the man so much more than I already did.
With regards to the stone cold podcast thing, that one honestly isn't on Moxley; he explicitly told the producers he did NOT want to talk about childhood/personal life, and they straight up just _didn't tell Austin._
3:13 Mox said about this in his book, he was tweeting a bunch of stuff about Foley’s family, but he was abroad and didn’t have his phone, so like a day after he did it, he gets all these texts from Mick asking him to stop over the several hours it went on.
It was a misunderstanding and he apologized to Mick and they are on good terms now
@@zarinshapurjee9430 Exactly. Mox even said he felt really bad because Mick thought he was just being an ass and ignoring him
Its so weird that I was never a fan of Dean Ambrose in WWE, but I instantly became a fan of Jon Moxley when he left WWE in 2019. And man, did I forget about the potential Foley feud at the beginning.
Yea Competent booking makes a big difference, doesn't it
Wonder why we never got gasmask
Dean on 2k19?
We were still stuck with tank top dean.
@@nehemiahpouncey3607 Too late, but there was enough time to update his model with the new look from August. Don't know why they didn't.
@@dukesilver9704 thanks to community
Creations we got it.
The night Ambrose/Mox won the world Title at MITB was one of the Greatest Nights in TV history: MITB where all Members of the Shield held the Title on the same night, Game 7 Warriors-Cavs where it came down to the final minute and Game of Thrones Battle of the Bastards episode. WHAT. A. NIGHT
6:57 the ending of WrestleMania 39
The "shield reunion" gag you did was incredible
Dude, I LOVE these bio videos! You really dig deep and get to the nitty gritty and present it in an entertaining way. I know you work in TV, but have you ever done documentary work? It feels like you got a knack for it! Keep up the great work, BZ!
Don’t forget he became a meme while in “The Shield”.
Nope
Who can forget the Nope and the ever present _Lunatic Friiiiiiiiinge_ being shouted every 20 seconds
Nope
@@Hxhjli before Jordan Peele
So, is this basically part one of three covering all three members of the SHIELD?
To this day, I maintain that Dean should have been the one to turn first on SHIELD, to join the Wyatts. He had exactly the mindset and exactly the vulnerabilities Bray needed and wanted in a partner, and for the first months of their feud it seemed like Bray was mostly only interested in Dean and in promos & matches targeted him specifically. Bray & Dean had the most chemistry, too.
Damn, Jon Moxley leaving WWE was the best thing that happened to him since the Shield.
Stage-whisper on "And Stairs" made me snort with laughter 😃
That third doorbell, I screamed out loud "Please don't answer that door, Zane!". I knew it would be sad...
The funny thing is that foley back in ecw also tried to get over with an anti hardcore gimmick
The Interconsolation Title should be it's official name.
Man time flies. I remember when the shield was new, they mainly just let Moxley talk because the others still weren't that great on the mic, but he was great...Time flies.
Mox/Dean is great. Sadly for me, he reminds me too much of a guy who was like 30 that showed up to some of my friend’s parties in high school. That’s all I’ve ever been able to think of when I see him
And keeps trying to get the football players to punch him in the stomach to prove how tough he is.
Do you blame him for that ?
Ambrose was my favorite member of the shield, I always wanted him to have a big WrestleMania moment, but it never came. It's a stretch, but hey, maybe one day.
I think an argument can be made that Ambrose/Moxley is the best at being a face of the three members of The Shield
He’s just so fun to watch in the ring and on the mic with his unhinged and risk taking character
Roman and Seth both have the same problem of often being rather bland and repetitive at times, especially as faces
Roman didn’t have the charisma that other heavily pushed main eventers had when he was a face
Seth didn’t really have much going for him as a face until early 2018 when he introduced the Monday Night Rollins and Burn It Down stuff, but people got tired of that eventually
Meanwhile, Ambrose’s only times as a heel in WWE were being part of The Shield and a very short run from late 2018 to the start of 2019
And has been a face for his entire AEW run if I am not mistaken
The story of how Dean got Mitch the plant is great. Whatever arena they were In they went looking for a potted plant and found one in the offices. Thing is they didn’t know if they could take it or not so they just stole the plant and never returned it
It was Jericho's idea to have a potted plant for his feud with Dean so they stole one from an office block at an arena
I love these styles of videos when you focus on one person or topic and bring out some of the comedy. The program reviews are great, but these make me laugh :)
I remember watching him face Daniel Bryan at a WWE house show around 2010-2011 when Bryan had the MITB briefcase. That was fun!
The shield reunion was meant to sell merchandise.
Everything in WWE is meant to do that
The initial run of the Shield was so damn good. You can easily forget just how effective and believable they were as a unit. Especially in the six-man matches.
But man, this brought back memories after the split and you can see faint glimmers of Mox in his run as Ambrose but it was just completely him being held back. All it took was to let him loose and look at his AEW run now. He's the damned heart of the place and it shows so much. I hope he gets that time off he was going to take before the All Out madness soon, dude has more than earned it.
8:01 "The faces that launched a thousand fanfics" I appreciate this hilarious Illiad reference.
Now I hear he's a plumber..
You should make the ecw originals dreamer sabu Rvd sandman and dreamer run in wwe from 2006-2009
No one:
Me at work after eating alot of chipotle the night before: Wrestlin with Regret LETS GET IT yea!
"It turns out THREE is the magic number"
I know this video came out weeks before but nice De La Soul reference.
RIP Trugoy
When you have someone who can develop their own character and get it over........just let them do it.
And what character is that? Alcoholic bum who blades every match? Trash
His book is well worth a read!
Love these long form videos making a return BZ! I've missed them.
we need to hear more of that banging theme song…”Wrestling With Wregret…YEAH”
I think these type of videos are your best work. Thanks for another great one!
I always felt that we were told Dean was some kind of dangerous lunatic while being booked as a clown that lost a lot. how different the business could have been had they seen Roman not working and put their stock into Ambrose instead.
Bro this channel is literally AVGN for wrestling....this is amazing
My favourite part about mitch the potted plant is finding out it was entirely deans idea and it was a stolen plant
Dean ambrose is the most blatant example of WWE holding back a wrestler by making him into something the company wanted him to be versus what he was capable of. Instead of making him the tough edgy jon moxley character they wanted to use him as comedy relief. It's really sad but at the end of the day it all worked out for him
Hot take: I prefer Dean Ambrose. Jon Moxley is way into cutting his head open every week and having matches where he spends four minutes fighting outside the ring while the ref just stands there not counting.
He started having much better promos as Moxley but it also dialed up all of the wannabe stone cold mannerisms up another 100%. I'm not really into his work when he's too silly or hardcore.
That is a scaldingly hot take, and one I can’t take seriously.
Much less hot, though, is your justification. Somebody should set up a swear jar, where you need to pay money every time you make a joke about Mox bleeding a lot.
As silly as it was, I do like Dean Ambrose silly moments, especially with Miz and Bray Wyatt. At least you got to meet his future wife Renee Paquette in the company as well as work with Bryan Danielson, Claudio Brodie Lee before coming to aew
Oof. I forgot how rough that Stone Cold podcast appearance was…all the attitude and sass of a 17 year old who had their driving privileges revoked by Dad.
They never understood the appeal of Moxley's initial gimmick - the street kid with anger management issues and violent tendencies. Go watch some of his PWG promos to see how good he could be.
Mox is actually the closest to who Jon really is
That Stone Cold podcast was rough listening/viewing. Kind of felt like Mox was trying to be a good company boy and really censoring himself thus he came off as boring. If Austin were to interview him now it would probably be really great.
Counterpoint: We can't criticize WWE for having the Shield's 1st loss as a team come on a 'random episode of TV' when two other things we criticize the product (rightly for) are a lack of week-by-week plot advancement and no-long term storylines.
At the time they lost, their storyline was 'What 3-man group in WWE can _possibly_ beat them?' Was Big Show, Orton and Sheamus a thrown-together team? Sure, but we already know WWE doesn't care about teams and will rank two World Champion team _members_ above an actual team. They'd beaten damn-near everyone on the mid-to-upper card and Orton, Bryan and Kane were their longest running feuds. Sure, it wasn't a pay-per-view, but it made that episode one of the few 'as good as a ppv' episodes that year; like Punk/Cena earlier that year.
I gotta be honest outside of his terrible heel run in 2018/2019 I really look back fondly of Dean Ambrose WWE run from the shield days to his babyface run. Was Dean a watered down version of Jon Moxlet yeah but he was very entertaining. I think he had a great career in WWE as part of The Shiekd & his singles run minus that last year. I do think they missed the boat with boat with him by not making him the guy in 2016 by not making him the guy he should of dethroned Triple H at the main event of WrestleMania 32 for WWE Championship as he was the most over guy in the company. While I am enjoying his AEW run assuming Trips stays in charge of creative in WWE I hope to see him back in the company some day
Since it was mentioned, a retrospective on AJ could be a fun little project down the road. His time in WWE has been wild, earning the spot of 'go-to guy' which was pretty much insane given he was a self made star before he ever got to WWE. He's the reason I got back into WWE at all, rather then just watching Rumbles and Mania each year. Second I saw him show up, I was watching week in, week out. Until it got to a boiling point and Vince's booking chased me off again.
Anyway, it was nice seeing a peek at what made SHIELD special through the perspective of Dean-o, given I wasn't watching at the time. As always, you're the guy, Senior Zane! Hope those head shots didn't concuss you!
Agreed. I thought Styles was amazing when he showed up. He had these cool moves like the calf crusher. I wished WWE would push him more and give him one more main event run. He could have feuded with Regns. He has been booked to lose a lot since he returned to RAW in 2019.
I'll always wish I lived in the timeline where we got Ambrose vs Foley....his team with Sami Callihan was savage, like a nu metal version of the gangstas...favorite moment from ambrose was his work against Rollins after Reigns leukemia diagnosis
if we got Ambrose vs Foley with both men allowed to do unscripted promos, it would have been godlike.
That first part of the doorbell gag got me. I watching on a laptop in my living room very close to the front door, and I had headphones in. I heard the door bell and looked at my door. I went to put it on pause when I saw Brian answering his door and realized it was part of the video lol.
0:55 "Duffel Bags Fear Orton" ... 😅
Wwe screwed up with ambrose just look at him now as mox
I'll admit, his antics made me want to watch every week. I also compared him to Stone Cold because he did seem to be that rebel against the system like Steve was in his heyday. And even during the heel turn it felt like he his heart wasn't really in it. When they booked it to be that he was taking a sabbatical for a while, I thought he was being written off due to injury or he wanted some time away like some competitors have done in the past. Little did I know or expect him to show up in AEW where his talents have been showcased better. I do hope there is at least a little bit of a chance he returns to WWE, and like Cody Rhodes, is shown to be that main event tier talent he has always been.
I'm not promoting another channel, I would like to see you do a collaboration with wrestling bios. You two are the only wrestling channels I can stand. With that being said you are #1 Mr. Zane. Thank you for the great content with a sense of humor.
Dean's first title defense being post brand split and against forever-midcarder Dolph Ziggler I think says everything about how WWE saw Dean Ambrose.
Vince, Steph & Hunter really just glanced around the lockerroom for an unserious temporary band-aid belt-holder whom everyone would happily forget even had a championship 6 months later, saw Dean and went "yep, that'll work".
This is the first time I've ever heard you not say Heck in a Ceck
The skits are back!