Vader in the WWF | Wrestling With Wregret

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  • @ghostiegoogoo
    @ghostiegoogoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +619

    The new editing/editor is so dope, definitely breathing life into this new season

    • @chabbab6698
      @chabbab6698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Well the old editing was nothing more than basic cuts

    • @ghostiegoogoo
      @ghostiegoogoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@chabbab6698 Fair enough 😅, but a little flair goes a long way

    • @WrestlingWithWregret
      @WrestlingWithWregret  4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Thanks, I agree!

    • @kenterminateddq5311
      @kenterminateddq5311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ghostiegoogoo Is it better than Wondershare? That's what I use to make videos.
      I kinda miss Windows Movie Maker. :(

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@WrestlingWithWregret YEAH Dude! You need to keep this style! It's perfect..

  • @cameron8675
    @cameron8675 4 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    His run there may have been disappointing but at least he redeemed himself in Noah afterwards.
    His matches with Misawa & Kobashi are definitely worth tracking down.

    • @SoftBank47
      @SoftBank47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Mostly All Japan just before the NOAH exodus, but yes. Vader was booked as the foreign monster heel that could only be taken out by the great Misawa.
      Those matches are prototypical AJPW: Stiff, dramatic, fantastic.

    • @RyanParreno
      @RyanParreno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The lesson to take here seems to be to avoid wrestling for Vince if you became famous somewhere else

    • @dannyhipolito817
      @dannyhipolito817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ryan Parreno AJ Styles debuted at the Royal Rumble in 2016 and he’s doing good stuff since

    • @dkres82
      @dkres82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Danny Blxck2 one of very few.

    • @frankf684
      @frankf684 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Danny Blxck2 Because AJ is too good to be held down. It didn’t look good early on,remember they kept comparing him to a pitbull cause he was short.

  • @mrmusickhimself
    @mrmusickhimself 4 ปีที่แล้ว +591

    During Shawn's tantrum you can see Vader mouth "I'm sorry" as he gets his head stomped, and it broke my heart. Leon was apparently a really sweet guy in real life, he deserved better.

    • @PlayStopRewindFilms
      @PlayStopRewindFilms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Can't say i can say the same. He often made bookings to independent wrestling promotions and made them pay for it in advance and no showed.

    • @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716
      @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Where are you getting that false info. He was am asshole who kept injuring everyone with his reckless style

    • @orlandoperez1616
      @orlandoperez1616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      He purposely tried to hurt enhancement talent sweet guy my ass

    • @William_Millar
      @William_Millar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Orlando Perez Steiners as well but are you bitching about that?

    • @doddsino
      @doddsino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@PlayStopRewindFilms
      Yeah, Vader wasn't exactly a saint by any means. I have no idea why so many revisionists claim that Vader was hurt by Hogan and Michaels, when anyone watching at the time could easily point the finger at something else. Too many people read Death of WCW and take it as the gospel truth.
      Michaels was indeed pissed during their match and reacted. But to treat this as something that is exclusive to Shawn is ridiculous when Vader himself threw a fit when Shamrock was being reckless with some kicks and suckerpunched Shamrock.
      Wait...did I say reckless? I meant "snug". You know that word people use about Vader while claiming that Shawn was being a primadonna about not wanting to lose an ear like Foley. God forbid that Vader..ya know lighten up. I guess working "snug" is the reputation of Vaderbombing dozens of people in a way that injures their backs or causes them to go unconscious on impact. What a pussy Shawn is!
      As far as Vader not getting a bigger push or the plan changing following SummerSlam, one thing that wasn't noted was quite honestly that Vader wasn't over the way he should have been. Honestly Camp Cornette was pretty bland despite the talent involved. I genuinely don't see what the problem was with the switch to Sid. Shawn wasn't cutting it as champ, Vader wasn't seen as major, but you had Sid getting these insane reactions. Seems like the right move to me.

  • @Ragan31687
    @Ragan31687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Glad he got honored in the Hall Of Fame this year. He deserves to be praised.

  • @donkarnage6032
    @donkarnage6032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    There is an interview with Vader where explains the Kuwait situation. He claims the shows producers came to them and asked them to do that. They gave them a list of questions. The last one being "Is wrestling fake?". At which point they wanted them to react to the host. The catch being that nobody from the show told the host that his was going to happen. So what you were getting was his genuine reaction. Afterwards the host went a filed charges against Vader. Vader explained between the cops and show producers that it was staged and the let Vader out of jail but due to it being a holiday the paperwork couldn't get processed until after the holiday. Vader ended up staying in a really nice resort with all of his stuff getting paid for by the Kuwaitis.

    • @aztecwrrior1997
      @aztecwrrior1997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Huh the more you know i guess

    • @haywardbarrows5906
      @haywardbarrows5906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Well at least he got a decent vacation out of it

    • @The73MPL4R
      @The73MPL4R 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      If that's true it just makes his public dressing down even worse because he didn't actually do anything wrong

    • @earlusmcdivett
      @earlusmcdivett ปีที่แล้ว

      This is not true. You completely made this up.

    • @donkarnage6032
      @donkarnage6032 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@earlusmcdivett Search for video titled "Vader - When I Threatened Kuwait TV Host on WWF Tour & Got Arrested" on the Title Match Wrestling TH-cam channel.
      Do a little research before calling someone a liar, buddy.

  • @iamgoat5863
    @iamgoat5863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    "Who kicks someone's ass wearing flip-flops?"
    Chael Sonnen: *I can't let you get get close!!!*

    • @tjmckinley8208
      @tjmckinley8208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mr wonderful paul freaking orndoaurf

  • @RATEDMik
    @RATEDMik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I meet Vader at New Jacks retirement, he was one of the sweetest individuals I’ve ever meet, he was literally a giant teddy bear. He was a victim of Vince hates WCW booking, look at Dusty Rhodes, The Big Show, the list goes on, and on. So sad for fans that only know him from WWE. The Stan Hansen vs Vader match you mentioned from New Japan is a must see, his best match might of been with the Great Muta in New Japan.

    • @AceMcSch00ly
      @AceMcSch00ly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His feuds with Sting are legendary, top 10 feud of all time.

    • @Colonel_RamRod
      @Colonel_RamRod ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@ryanwebb5082 I think they're referring to the first several years pf Show. He didn't get popular with WWE booking to the point of titles until late 2000s etc etc

  • @ericshepperd4823
    @ericshepperd4823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    The Chappelle reference was next level. This whole video was incredible!

    • @TheMadTitanM5
      @TheMadTitanM5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      WU-TANG!

    • @Colonel_RamRod
      @Colonel_RamRod 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *scrappy dog barking noises* 😂

  • @Flow_Easy
    @Flow_Easy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    It seems like almost every career has a decline when they run into Hulk Hogan brother! You either do the job now or ya do the job later, but remember brother ya gonna do the job brother!

    • @smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737
      @smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Flow_ Easy the rock was okay after

    • @michaeljohnson2191
      @michaeljohnson2191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      And when that bell rings brother ohhhhhhh brother!!!

    • @AmariieMaerthos
      @AmariieMaerthos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737 He DID say ALMOST every career. Rock was okay, and Shawn recovered. It took Bret almost a year to start recovering his career after what Hogan pulled at WM9.

    • @shoto7948
      @shoto7948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brock lesnar did just fine

    • @TheTrainFan9
      @TheTrainFan9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did Hogan get his win back from Angle after he made him tap at KOTR 2002?
      Can't remember if he did.

  • @robinbonds6268
    @robinbonds6268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I've always heard Vader was told by a producer to act like that, but didn't want the host to know to make it look more real. Then the producer denied it to keep his own job after the cops were called. That's why undertaker never flinched

    • @roguerifter9724
      @roguerifter9724 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Perhaps but Vader would have been smarter to not go along with it, Far too many things could go wrong leading to the host being badly injured. And attacking a non-wrestler whose not trained to take hits safely can never be a good idea IMO.

  • @kclink1579
    @kclink1579 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    It's a shame that WWE didn't put Vader in the HOF when he was alive so he could enjoy it. It made no sense.

    • @vastexpanse8606
      @vastexpanse8606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So is our president... Such a joke

    • @AceMcSch00ly
      @AceMcSch00ly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vastexpanse8606 yeah Biden is a complete Tool.

    • @actionjackson4982
      @actionjackson4982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's all politics, brother.

  • @DenOfVipers
    @DenOfVipers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Fun fact: Vader was born in the same neighborhood as Weird Al Yankovic.

  • @BradleyBoy
    @BradleyBoy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    Raise your hand if you've ever been personally victimized by The Kliq *Everyone in the Mid 90's WWF raises their hand*

    • @mehgend3914
      @mehgend3914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      *Shane Douglas raises both hands*

    • @1992geop
      @1992geop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      PCO, Bam Bam Bigelow, Mo, Chris Candido, Bryan Clark, Bob Holly, Barry Horitiz

    • @bigpoppajersh
      @bigpoppajersh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That's why BSK was made. They were the anti kliq kliq

    • @enigmaskull3495
      @enigmaskull3495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Enter the Undertaker and his *taped fists.*

    • @andrewojanen9167
      @andrewojanen9167 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@1992geop don't forget Jean-Pierre Lafitte

  • @kevinwr7093
    @kevinwr7093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I laughed so hard when WWE announced that "mask vs mask" match. My friends all looked at each other, and one of us finally spoke up, "sooo...Vader is going to lose that one, right?". Lol

    • @rickyrosay33977
      @rickyrosay33977 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That had to be the most predictable match ever besides any Hulk Hogan match

    • @Videogamelover58
      @Videogamelover58 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmaooo

  • @Ft.Gagiano
    @Ft.Gagiano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I believe Vince macmahon was in love with Shawn Micheals in the mid 90's. He would do anything to make Micheals "keep his smile"

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I really think they had a sexual relationship going on.. Shawn did what he wanted to do when he felt like it without no consequences..

    • @westnile21
      @westnile21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      They were definitely “in a relationship” so many people have come out to speak about it.

    • @frankf684
      @frankf684 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard that about Hogan,Austin,and Cena

    • @billywhitewolf
      @billywhitewolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But by 97 Shawn wasn't bending over the right way anymore. But in seriousness, Shawn was far too talented to get rid of and the only guy at the time aside form Bret Hart that was worthy of being the top guy plus there was WCW breathing down WWF's neck. That's why Vince was so lenient with him.

    • @gst013
      @gst013 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's amazing how many people who have zero connection to any of this still believe this insane "Vince and Shawn were fuck buddies" silliness. Nobody has ever suggested that either of them were gay, but it's 2020, so why let facts get in the way of people's conspiracy fantasies 😂

  • @HenrySchecker
    @HenrySchecker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    When I was a kid I thought Vader was really scary and then I saw Kane beat him up and then Kane replaced him as the scariest wrestler

    • @aaronm8143
      @aaronm8143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Such a heartfelt story lol. Thank you for giving me a good laugh 😎

    • @MrM-u3h
      @MrM-u3h 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vader was done for good in WWF once Kane hit the scene.

    • @brandonallen3289
      @brandonallen3289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrM-u3h What a tag team those two would have made. Two masked giants, both agile.

  • @etchbekey
    @etchbekey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +403

    Before I watch.. something something Shawn Michaels something something politics?

    • @randomnerd3402
      @randomnerd3402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Thats every story of misused talent during 1997

    • @TheBuddha337
      @TheBuddha337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      You aren't wrong lol

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's true! Shawn will tell you himself in so many words..

    • @smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737
      @smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Harieth Velasco also he was too THICC

    • @frankf684
      @frankf684 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Vader was a big baby from what I heard.He could dish it out but couldn’t take it

  • @Evil_Noah
    @Evil_Noah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I've heard Yokozuna was put on a forklift because they couldn't get him on a stretcher, not to mock him.

    • @Dim4323
      @Dim4323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cue mst3k song

    • @Madeyoulook123
      @Madeyoulook123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I’m pretty sure he hit 550 lbs before he left the wwe and then hit 600 lbs at the match with jake roberts

    • @randyrichardson6040
      @randyrichardson6040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then y do the angle....y not injure an arm or some other body part....nah...they did that on purpose to embarrass him into losing the weight

    • @chokethathoe__
      @chokethathoe__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Madeyoulook123 Yoko was over 650 lbs when he left wwf. At the time of the match with Jake he was over 700 lbs

    • @Musiclover19
      @Musiclover19 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yoko wasn’t actually hurt. So obviously it was to mock him.

  • @CannabisEducation
    @CannabisEducation 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I really appreciate the fact you called cactus Jack Mr Bang Bang because that's what he was better known as 😉

  • @monkeyman5866
    @monkeyman5866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    It's Time
    It's Time
    It's Vader time on Wrestling with Wregret

  • @mehgend3914
    @mehgend3914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Apparently the name “Baby Bull” caught on because that’s the name of a character in the MDickie games

    • @randomnerd3402
      @randomnerd3402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Love the MDickie games. The parody names are great

    • @wyattmack9071
      @wyattmack9071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheMehgend love it

    • @ashutoshmishra8423
      @ashutoshmishra8423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah I remember. Baby Bull is a wrestler on Federation Online....... I never realised the name was actually used by Vader

    • @LS-kk3yu
      @LS-kk3yu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Braden S they suck

    • @mehgend3914
      @mehgend3914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@LS-kk3yu welcome to the incorrect opinion saloon. Do you have any other opinions you would like to share with the guys?

  • @MCYonazz
    @MCYonazz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    God, I hope that "we're in August already" joke ages badly. Please, please, please!

    • @jonmarrie8093
      @jonmarrie8093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Can we just get to 2021 already

    • @TakerKaneanite619
      @TakerKaneanite619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jonmarrie8093 Can we get to 2030 already.

    • @VanillaMidgetSSBM
      @VanillaMidgetSSBM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Can whoever made the simulation take out the cartridge and blow into it? Please?!

    • @kaptainkibiroproductions45
      @kaptainkibiroproductions45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ya Boy Guzma 🤣 I know it’s a chance that’s actually how life works but could you imagine for a sec that one night time just totally freezes for a sec then all the problems are gone? 🤣

    • @num1Jaysta
      @num1Jaysta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TakerKaneanite619 No thanks! I ain’t trying to be 42 yet.

  • @senorfish2503
    @senorfish2503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Love the "when keeping it real goes wrong" spot

  • @Baastilein31
    @Baastilein31 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Vader was used the same way every monster heel is used in WWE: A constant threat for maineventers but never a real maineventer himself. He went the same way like Yokozuna, Kane, Umaga or recently Samoa Joe. They were attractions for themselves and never needed big titles to be remembered. Could be worse.
    Dungeon of Doom and jobbing for Hogan for example.

    • @kpllc4209
      @kpllc4209 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing could of been worse than what I just watched

  • @Supervillain725
    @Supervillain725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Eventually, Zane's hair and beard will take over this channel.

  • @JobberBud
    @JobberBud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The comically huge wrench was the same one Kurt Angle would later use on the Undertaker at Fully Loaded 2000.

  • @Kerorofan1990
    @Kerorofan1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Whoa, beard. I must have been away from this channel for a while.

  • @insertname1014
    @insertname1014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    No matter what WWE say about virtually everyone, Vader was a guy whose agility and speed was terrifying for his size.

    • @Ravensfan89
      @Ravensfan89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      MB Guttersnipe They had a match in 1989 for the IWGP Title. With Antonio Inoki as the special referee. :P

  • @JS-ik2vt
    @JS-ik2vt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Who beats people up while wearing flip-flops? Ask the undefeated Chael Sonnen.

    • @thaiboypsp3000
      @thaiboypsp3000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *I CANT LET YOU GET CLOSE*

  • @ElJohnno42
    @ElJohnno42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "Wu-Tang!"
    Legit spit-take from me. Kudos

  • @jonbourgoin182
    @jonbourgoin182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    THE WRESTLER REVIEW WHEN
    Sorry I’m being impatient, I am glad Vader is getting his due on this channel

  • @BumpyGebkk1974
    @BumpyGebkk1974 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brain Zane is my favorite professional wrestling TH-camr ! !

  • @Kamau1865
    @Kamau1865 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Vader was an amazing heel. His career in the WWF once and for all proved that Vince and company were not in fact geniuses, Vader had so much potential and quality. WWF dropped the ball big time.

  • @johnathanblack124
    @johnathanblack124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Shawn Michaels. The answer is Shawn Michaels.

  • @pikaspits7757
    @pikaspits7757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The starting joke is even funnier now that it's actually August

  • @brdarlin
    @brdarlin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love Brian’s beard progression during the pandemic. in a few weeks you can try out for ZZ Top

  • @thetreblerebel
    @thetreblerebel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    WWF squandered Vader, but as did Eric Bischoff. Vader's badass days were b4 Easy Es run as boss

  • @UfodexENMD
    @UfodexENMD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Favorite part of the Summer Slam match is when Shawn forgets to kick out and the ref stops the count at 2 while Shawn fixes his hair

  • @Slick5150
    @Slick5150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What happened to Vader in WWF. You thank Shawn Michaels for that

  • @satadaldeb8547
    @satadaldeb8547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Wwf completely misused Vader. He was a made star. Atleast he had a great match against Taker.

    • @thomasjenkins7506
      @thomasjenkins7506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      did you even watch the video?

    • @napalmblaziken
      @napalmblaziken 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It was a mix of himself and Shawn. This, just like Kennedy, was one of the times Vince WANTED to push the guy, but things got in the way.

    • @thomasjohn3835
      @thomasjohn3835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Should have just gone back to NJPW after WCW at least he knew they would use him properly.

    • @Rick-si1re
      @Rick-si1re 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, but part of it is Vader's fault, I heard he was a very stiff worker and guys like HBK at the time didn't want anything to do with that style so he never worked in the main event save for SS 1996 and that was it, he'd been sliding ever since then.

    • @Rick-si1re
      @Rick-si1re 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Se Se I don't know if he tried to correct it, I don't remember hearing that any where, your sources? I agree with everything you said about Michaels, I don't know if Shawn had him "wrapped around his finger" at the time but he certainly was in Vince's ear at the time. Shawn was the champion and Vince catered to him because of that, remember business was down when Shawn was Champion and at the time Shawn could always play the WCW card, and he did at one point or he tried to. I heard that Vince talked him out of it. Any way I'm sure he got special treatment being Vince's Champion and main draw at the time.
      I think it was deserved no? Vader was a newcomer in the WWF and as I said Shawn had busted his ass to get to where he was at.
      Yeah I heard from Bret that Vader was a big teddy bear on the inside and you could hurt his feelings easily. I wonder if he deserves sympathy, there is the Kuwait incident which he (Leon) claims was a work, and Vader was a pro by the time he came to the WWE, so you think he'd have learned full well how to work and he shouldn't have had to "correct" anything, I don't expect perfection but he should have known how to work to the point where he wasn't hurting or injuring anyone or being "stiff", something Bret, prided himself on.

  • @Badvibesdude
    @Badvibesdude 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of my all time favorites. Total freak of nature. He gave hope to fat kids everywhere. I remember being proud when my JV football teammates called me Vader when assigning wrestler identities to guys on our team. Shame he didn't work out in WWF/E.

  • @charliegriner5994
    @charliegriner5994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I appreciate your steady presence these days, Z-Man

    • @chrismlastname
      @chrismlastname 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charlie Griner very much so, getting the TH-cam notification puts a smile on my face

  • @Johnnyversetti6969
    @Johnnyversetti6969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My mind is officially blown.. hearing Paul orndoff had one good arm is insane since I once had found an Paul orndoff rubber wrestler figure missing an arm!

  • @munchmahquchi4050
    @munchmahquchi4050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun fact! My first ever WWE event was the night before taboo Tuesday 2005 haha, I got to see Vader trip up close and personal being in the front row. Best night of my childhood

  • @TravisBroski
    @TravisBroski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s so weird seeing Undertaker with a headband BEFORE his biker gimmick, or even the Attitude Era

  • @AdrianM865
    @AdrianM865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    RIP to Danny Havoc. When I used to watch Deathmatch wrestling he was one of my favorites. Vader is the best big man to ever lace up the boots.

    • @satan3959
      @satan3959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know. Bam Bam Bigelow was pretty close

  • @JBHAYES
    @JBHAYES 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That intro made me feel like I was watching America's most wanted 🤣🤣

  • @QuintMarvel
    @QuintMarvel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nah, man, the Mask Match still makes sense. You said it yourself, a masked wrestler's mask is a big deal - it is a major part of the identity, and losing it is a big blow to the Character.
    Even if we could already see most of Vader's face, his willingness to put the mask on the line still means something. In addition, this is a type of match that only Vader and Kane could have, and his reaction after the loss feels real - like a man that bet everything and then LOST everything.
    Although, I'll agree, they should have made him use a different Mask afterwards.

  • @mrkipling2201
    @mrkipling2201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    He tried working with pneumonia?? I’ve had pneumonia and I was incapacitated for 10 days and in hospital for 7 of those days on oxygen!! Sometimes you just have to say no and do what’s best for your health.

  • @awzthemusicalreviews
    @awzthemusicalreviews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    6:49
    This is the song written for the angle.
    This is the match: Leon and Rod.
    THEY TRIED TO MOVE HIM WITH A FORKLIFT!

  • @mrbransformer4184
    @mrbransformer4184 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nothing better then finding an episode you havnt seen yet during the break!

  • @666chaox666
    @666chaox666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These videos are definitely my favourite of yours, Brian. I love learning about these wrestlers that I've only ever heard of and have never really seen. Thanks.

  • @muggsybergner0206
    @muggsybergner0206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Back in the Day when i started the wrestling training, my coaches said: "When you want to work Big Man Style, watch everything what Vader has done." In my opinion he was one of the Best Big Man who ever worked in the squared circle, but his WWF run was just a big disappointment.
    Rest in Peace

    • @jgespana866
      @jgespana866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't forget Bam Bam Bigelow, one of the best SuperHeavy wrestler and very underrated.

    • @muggsybergner0206
      @muggsybergner0206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, Bam Bam was great, but Vaders Matches with Foley and Hansen were something else

    • @aztecwrrior1997
      @aztecwrrior1997 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dont forget about Keith Lee hes a beast whos a Super Heavyweight that moves like a man half his size

  • @thomasagar273
    @thomasagar273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    U mean to tell me WWE ruined a big star that was made in an another promotion. 😲😲

    • @randomnerd3402
      @randomnerd3402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      How shocking, this can't be true

    • @realxjosh8298
      @realxjosh8298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AJ Styles says hi

    • @anegg1369
      @anegg1369 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thomas Agar is that a shock

    • @orlandoperez1616
      @orlandoperez1616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Being a star in ring of honor or TNA means nothing. Hell being a star in New Japan means nothing.

    • @dannyhipolito817
      @dannyhipolito817 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Real Josh AJ has alot of juice in the tank and WWE gives him stuff to do. Even though he made his name in Japan, the Independent Circuit and Impact, Styles gets top star treatment every week and Vince admits he’s fantastic even for a guy who’s 5’10

  • @enigmaskull3495
    @enigmaskull3495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    16:46 IT’S BEARER TIME!

  • @caseytune6433
    @caseytune6433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the best parts of my week is coming home from work on Wednesday and sitting back to watch the new Brian Zane video while I unwind. Thanks for what you do man!

  • @JohnDoe-gk7ok
    @JohnDoe-gk7ok 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He was a Hall of Famer before he ever stepped foot in WWF. And he did have some great moments: attacking Monsoon, Final Four, shooting against the Kuwait reporter (which I thought was awesome).

  • @riotd.r.8363
    @riotd.r.8363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for the Saban reference. Instant smile

  • @PapaBear816
    @PapaBear816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Vader was a victim of HBK and VKM in my eyes. Vince didn't like he wouldn't rename himself to Mastodon because Vince's moto was We don't hire Superstars, we Create them. Also HBK was HBK.. his politicking selfish self at the max at that point. What really pisses me off about this is as much of a Sham the WWE Hall of Fame is, Vince refuses to put Vader in it even after learning Vader was more or less going to die in a few years even despite Mick Foley pushing for it. Ohhh but he allowed Vader to induct Stan Hansen.

    • @shivx1
      @shivx1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's a good thing he's not in the WWE hall of fame because that shit is a pathetic joke, much like how the WWE cares about it's family, as seen in this recent disaster

    • @BigEOT3
      @BigEOT3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Damn that Voodoo Kin Mafia.

    • @PapaBear816
      @PapaBear816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Mean Bob There are a lot of people who deserve to be there if they consider it an honor. However due to VKM being VKM they never will be or not till after they die which makes you wonder about Vince's ability to forgive, more so when things were his fault.. like all the wrestlers involved in the Concussion Law suit Vs WWE.
      Demolition and One Man Gang come to mind. You know OMG lost his house to a massive hurricane sometime back and not a peep from WWE about it? Someone mentioned it on Squared circle on Reddit and his family started a donation site for it.. the good news is They raised enough money to deal with the problem.. but it still pisses me off WWE didn't step up to help him.

    • @Musiclover19
      @Musiclover19 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PapaBear816 lmao…Why should Vince McMahon and the WWE help out OMG when he lost his home? Just because he USE to work for them? That’s not how it works, they paid him very well while he actually did work for them and they DON’T own OMG or any other past wrestlers a dime. Sounds harsh I know, but the WWE is NOT a charity, they’re a FOR PROFIT company. I use to work for Walmart, if I lost my home, I doubt they would help me, even though they’re a company that makes billions and I’ve worked for them for years, but I don’t work for them now, so they ain’t going to help. So again why should WWE be expected to help? Sorry mark, that’s not how the world works. Would it have been nice of them to help? Of course, but in no way are they obligated to do so, sorry to play “Devil’s advocate,” but sometimes that’s the role you play when you can perfectly understand the world isn’t nice.

    • @PapaBear816
      @PapaBear816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Musiclover19 Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Conservative thinking Fort Width. A man who gave like the Gang did to WWE, and why should the multi billion dollar company he gave heart and soul to, Help him with 30k to get his house fixed. Yea, Such a kind soul you are. Keeping in mind WWE has done more for other superstars in the name of being " Good " You see that road over there, it leads to Fuck off Ville, can you go all the way down there and fuck all the way off? Thanks :)

  • @westnile21
    @westnile21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Shawn was Vince’s personal “boy toy” which is why he was able to get away with so much shit backstage.

    • @gst013
      @gst013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please stop projecting your silly sexual fantasies onto people you don't like 😂

    • @vastexpanse8606
      @vastexpanse8606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh it's true, it's damn true.

    • @keenanjohnson1296
      @keenanjohnson1296 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would Vince show favouritism to a cash cow over an older and at the time out of shape wrestler?

  • @tinotica
    @tinotica 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Yay!!! I’ve been waiting for this one!!
    Hopefully he’s able to do:
    Legion of Doom 2000
    Chavo Guerrero (2005 until his WWE departure)
    Mr. Kennedy
    WWF in 1995
    Top 8 worst guest hosts
    The mishandling of JR
    Sin Cara
    The Rise and Fall of Rusev
    Shinsuke Nakamura

    • @enigmaskull3495
      @enigmaskull3495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shawn Michaels’s Diva Days

    • @tinotica
      @tinotica 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shane Hill yes!!!! Or Backstage politics: Kliq vs Hulk Hogan?

    • @Mr.BeastFacts
      @Mr.BeastFacts 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr. America?

    • @Dim4323
      @Dim4323 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And CHRISTIAN! CHRISTIAN AT LAST HE UNDERATED

    • @Dim4323
      @Dim4323 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Christian

  • @PurpleCrownVic
    @PurpleCrownVic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I havent watched any of your new vids in a while.
    You went from Padawan Kenobi to Master Kenobi with the beard lol

  • @speedwaynutt
    @speedwaynutt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Underrated Vader moment was when he Started fighting kane during Kanes inferno match with the Undertaker. That Undertaker top rope leap over the ropes and fire and landing on Kane and Vader is still one a my favorite spots.

  • @Thecallmemisterajp
    @Thecallmemisterajp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always cracks me up how chill Taker is when Vader grabs the reporter.

  • @ivanvukasovic1371
    @ivanvukasovic1371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Stan Hansen: *exists*
    Vader's eye: IGHT IMMA HEAD OUT

    • @napalmblaziken
      @napalmblaziken 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Vader: No you ain't.

    • @ivanvukasovic1371
      @ivanvukasovic1371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@napalmblaziken Vader's eye socket was all like *_schloop_*

    • @sumobo7108
      @sumobo7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ivanvukasovic1371 LOL

  • @AGNation
    @AGNation 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    12:27 omg its the American Badass’ true Debut

  • @dantorkel7561
    @dantorkel7561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The amazing thing was the second he left WWF, he was putting on 4+ star classics in AJPW with Kobashi/Kawada/Misawa/Akiyama, and he had a great match with Inoki too in 99-00 area

  • @thomaslippiatt7107
    @thomaslippiatt7107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly as a long term fan of your content this is some of your top tier work

  • @thealjohnsonshow2188
    @thealjohnsonshow2188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    16:06-16:15; 18:15-18:18
    *LOL* / *Another rare f bomb by Brian Zane*

    • @djpegao
      @djpegao 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The beard is slowing taking over....

  • @ICantSplel
    @ICantSplel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:16 this man is the inspiration for Joey Wheeler's "creepy chin" in Yugi-Oh.

  • @ob_gynkenobi4014
    @ob_gynkenobi4014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Who kicks someone's ass while wearing flip flops?" Chael P Sonnen has entered the chat!

  • @the1flym459
    @the1flym459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That "Keeping It Real" reference caught me completely off guard😂

  • @guillermosierracuellar9812
    @guillermosierracuellar9812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You should review the billionaire Ted Sketchs

    • @RoyStantz
      @RoyStantz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a very great idea.
      In fact, Zane should review *ALL* of Billy Gunn's failed singles pushes in both WWE and TNA.

    • @guillermosierracuellar9812
      @guillermosierracuellar9812 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoyStantz yeah I think that if it wasn't because he teamed up with Road dogg or Chuck palumbo he would had been released after parting ways from Bart Gunn

    • @DasNordlicht91
      @DasNordlicht91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Billionaire Ted could be part of a larger review taking a look at WWF and WCW’s potshots at each other during the Monday Night Wars.

  • @kickflipdemon
    @kickflipdemon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Brian you really got to do a video on Shawn Michaels and Hogan political pull

    • @JofoInTheRing
      @JofoInTheRing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeahhh would be a good one

  • @XFlawlessXxx
    @XFlawlessXxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When he said who the hell gets there ass kicked by somebody with flip flops on, I died laughing lol

  • @aaronm8143
    @aaronm8143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s interesting how different each era of wrestling is. It really does evolve with the each generation.

  • @nbr6116
    @nbr6116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "famously poor hygiene"
    Huh? That's a new one

    • @johncarolina4950
      @johncarolina4950 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vader was known to not wash his gear and he smelled like shit in the ring

    • @Bae_Cop2027
      @Bae_Cop2027 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I've heard Cornette and Ross talk about how he wouldn't wash his tights. There's a funny story out there about how his wife gave him shit over it, too.

    • @saskatoonguy
      @saskatoonguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not to anybody that had to work with him...

    • @dannycruz5446
      @dannycruz5446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Guys were complaining that he wasnt washing his tights

    • @Musiclover19
      @Musiclover19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      NBR. It’s not new at all. It’s been very well documented by other wrestlers that he had poor hygiene. Bam Bam Bigelow is often accused of it as well.
      His mask was infamously smelly as well.

  • @emfs9522
    @emfs9522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy shit finally a long form video. I honestly only watch this and classical ppv reviews. I could care less about current wrestling. Thank you, your comedy has been missed.

  • @ohjaeciii
    @ohjaeciii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vader is one of many of wrestlers that were booked strong before coming into the WWE to be practically neutered for that exact reason.

  • @phoenixblack1220
    @phoenixblack1220 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vader was one of the most scariest heels. I remember when he splashed Gorilla Monsoon, I wanted to see him beaten badly for that, and it was then I realized he was a phenomenal heel. I really feel bad for how things went down for him in the WWF. It’s interesting, reading through a lot of the comments that people posted about him, he seemed like a very nice likable guy outside the ring.

  • @Venemofthe888
    @Venemofthe888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Man so many wrestlers dying this year. RIP Danny Havoc.

    • @Isaac-cm7zg
      @Isaac-cm7zg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What.....?

    • @Mecha82
      @Mecha82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Isaac-cm7zg Besides of Danny Havoc former WWE wrestler Shad Gaspar and Stardom wrestler Hana Kimura have already died this year.

    • @randomnerd3402
      @randomnerd3402 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats what I said when I saw the tribute

  • @TheTrainFan9
    @TheTrainFan9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To be fair to Shawn (just barely since this is 1996 HBK we're talking about), Bret Hart also hated working with Vader because of how stiff he was. He was really better suited for Japan than North American wrestling.
    It's a shame things didn't work out in the Federation for him, but he still has his legacy intact despite this lackluster run.

    • @JunAoi
      @JunAoi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shawn has been a massive douche for his whole career but I don't think 'Can you not stiff me?' is exactly politicking or particularly unreasonable. A lot of that whole thing has been blown up by Corny, bless the guy, who tends to decry things done by guys he hates but lauds them when they're done by guys he likes. Bruiser Brody acts unprofessional, shows the fans he's there but doesn't wanna work to show his displeasure with the producer? Hahaha, classic Brody! Shawn Michaels does the same basic thing but in the back stage? Unprofessional douchebag.
      So when the stories of Vader being politicked out of a good career in WWF are hitting the rounds, take it with a grain of salt. It's likely! It's very believable, and probably true, but if the reason he was 'politicked' out of a good career is 'refusing to NOT stiff top stars'... well. No one's ever praised Bob Holly or JBL for it either.

  • @claymathewselevator8121
    @claymathewselevator8121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vader crushing the basketball on Baywatch is one of my favorite gifs

  • @MastaMS21
    @MastaMS21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:30 "on the nose", probably the right expression talking about 1999 Jake Roberts.

  • @timbartschwolfman
    @timbartschwolfman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    WCW knew how to use Vader
    WWE didn't know what to do with him
    ECW well 🤔🤔 we'll never know

    • @ryankeefe6222
      @ryankeefe6222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I wouldn’t have minded seeing him in ecw

    • @randomnerd3402
      @randomnerd3402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ryankeefe6222 yeah, especially since he's known for his brutal matches

    • @ryankeefe6222
      @ryankeefe6222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Braden S i could see him a role like Sid was when he was there

    • @vciotoli2126
      @vciotoli2126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think Heyman had an idea to have him put Taz over. But seeing how Bam Bam looked in ECW, who knows man.

    • @randomnerd3402
      @randomnerd3402 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryankeefe6222 that would be interesting

  • @totallynotalpharius2283
    @totallynotalpharius2283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Look the only person who tore Shawn Michaels apart was Vince McMahon

  • @lowlifelouie593
    @lowlifelouie593 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The graphic for the passing of my friend Danny Havoc touched me. Thank you for doing that ..

  • @Sparkledash1
    @Sparkledash1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a guy from Bremen, My older brother told me all about the stories of Vaders (at that time called Bull Power) time in Otto Wanz's CWA. He together with Fit Finlay and Jushin Thunder Liger would walk the streets constantly and sign autographs to anyone who asks. Bremen was kinda like the New York of Germany in the 80s and early 90s, as there was no bigger crowd for Wrestling in this country and we could also be considered a bit smarky. Too bad everything went to shit by the late 90s.
    But in any case, Vader will always be my favorite big man of all time.

  • @markdombrowski9619
    @markdombrowski9619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I watched an old interview with him and he said guys complained about his style. The two guys he hinted at were Taker and Shawn Michaels. I’m curious who it was .

  • @ryanholter6820
    @ryanholter6820 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vader was a legit world champion, holding world titles in Germany and japan and Mexico simultaneously. Has anyone else even come close?

  • @dylmatic8104
    @dylmatic8104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The dave chappelle wu tang with the vader mask....priceless

  • @timwright3218
    @timwright3218 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They should have made Kane v Vader a Mask Versuse Helmet match. Imagine Kane walking out in the Vader helmet for the rest of his career

  • @guillermosierracuellar9812
    @guillermosierracuellar9812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think wwe banned a Mick foley vs Vader match because in their last match Foley lost an Ear

    • @wrestlingwithart
      @wrestlingwithart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That was long before they were in wwe. It was a match in Germany.

    • @ajk
      @ajk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wrestlingwithart And was on a house show. WCW DID ban at least parts of a Worldwide match though in that same year (1994), for it being too violent for TV. Perhaps you may be thinking of that.

    • @ONShypnos
      @ONShypnos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That issue was entirely WCW's fault.
      Because they forgot something even local indies know: You need a ring crew. You can't just hire randoms with no experience to set up your ring and expect things to go right.

    • @gst013
      @gst013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That makes zero sense...if they wanted to reference it, they could have created a massive angle out of it. When in wrestling could you have found a feud where one guy legitimately deformed another guy, who could then get revenge? That's pure gold.

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gst013 that's why some Bookers are terrible at there jobs.. That was a payday waiting to get collected and they didn't capitalize on it.. SMH!

  • @20marvelman
    @20marvelman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel like Samoa Joe is going to have a similar route minus the politic stuff

    • @dannyhipolito817
      @dannyhipolito817 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe’s doing fine even if he’s getting injury prone

    • @frankf684
      @frankf684 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe is going to be an announcer.Joe was never as stiff as VaderS

  • @kyledamron
    @kyledamron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I'm so BIIIGGG!" That cracked me up. Thanks for the laughs in these difficult times BZ

  • @_Gingermf_
    @_Gingermf_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Who kicks someone's ass wearing flip flops?!"
    Chael P. Sonnen would like a word

    • @noxious1209
      @noxious1209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I CAN'T LET YOU GET CLOSE

  • @dbone3356
    @dbone3356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Huh... Interested to see how the video will be longer than 3 seconds.
    *Video starts*
    "Shawn Michaels is a prick."
    *Video ends*

  • @jaymoneygotswag14
    @jaymoneygotswag14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brian Zane beard been growing since then what u use for your beard to grow fast

    • @randomnerd3402
      @randomnerd3402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its called no barbers are open cream

    • @Njbear7453
      @Njbear7453 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Time

  • @sinikal3169
    @sinikal3169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Wu-tang!" I fucking lost it!

  • @atifqavi2054
    @atifqavi2054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine had they booked him well in 1996, Vader would've been one of the biggest heel in the company by 1998. An Austin vs. Vader program in 1998 would be so great to watch.