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About Emotiv epoch : I used it a few times. two box packs were broken. a chronic problem device. The company does not protect its customers. I definitely do not recommend it. Pack is chronically problematic. The company does not produce a solution to this situation. He sold the product, took the money and got the job done.
can i record with MUSE my brain while watching TV and then analyze how my brainwaves reacted afterwards u? i have to use matlab and so on right? can i also analyze my meditation files with matlab after the sessions?
What would you recommend for a High School AP Psychology Teacher looking to make Neuroscience a little less abstract/textbooky and instead being able to have his students take a hands on approach... I was looking at Emotiv and while I personally really want the EPOC+ just because it's so cool, this would be a personal purchase not a school purchase and the EPOC+ is a "bit" out of my price range. I was thinking about the Emotiv Insight (I have not seen your videos on this device, but will take a look while awaiting a response)? What I would be doing with the students with the tech is mostly, but not entirely, looking at each other's EEG raw readouts and identifying different brainwave patterns/frequencies. Can the Insight provide raw readouts without purchasing the pro subscription (maybe through third party software) or is that the only way? I know you said the Muse can give the raw readouts, but it seems (from this video and from their own site) that the Muse's focus is specifically on meditation... Are there any apps for the Muse that would work with just general active behavior (so we could do things like comparing a students brainwave activity while shooting hoops to sitting in class). My concern is that I may run into the problem I ran into a few years ago when, with an older EEG meditation device, the app would stop recording data if you were way more active than you were supposed to be while meditating (I'm sure the device was more than capable of recording the data, but the app, which focused on meditation, purposefully stopped the recording if you tried using it for something other than meditating). Can you use the Muse for things other than meditation and if so which Windows applications will I need to do so? Or should I go for the Insight and find a third party app or maybe even buy the subscription software? Or should I just go for broke and splurge on the EPOC+ and its software? Any thoughts? Edit (about 2 hours after my original post): I did a little more research of my own (In addition to what I knew before I asked the question) and found that Muse has their own software called "Direct" which is pretty close to what I am looking for... It is less focused on Meditation and more so about collecting raw data. It's subscription price is also significantly lower than Emotiv's at $24 for a 1 year subscription. Based off what you know about the Emotiv and the Muse, what would you recommend?
It was funny as I read your post, because Muse Direct was exactly the thing I was going to recommend. It is a nice program and I am going to be making a video on it soon. Glad that you found it an attractive option. I think the comfortability of wear and ease of use will make it a more attractive in a classroom setting compared to the other devices. Awesome to hear it being used in this way!
Does Muse Direct allow for any sort of brain mapping? Like does the program allow us to look at what parts of the brain are firing like the Emotiv device can do with their software (I know some of the Emotiv software has the ability to look at like 3D models of the brain based on the collected EEG data... although I guess that's because it has so many more nodes on it)? The EEG is certainly the main thing I am looking for, but it would also be especially useful to have students be able to see a model of the brain lighting up in different areas for different activities. I'm guess Muse can't do it, but let me know if you know. Thank you!
Hi Daniel! You sound like a great teacher :) Have you thought about using OpenBCI? It's as low as $349.99 for an EEG headset and all the software is free and open-source. Their customer service is fast too, from my personal experience
@Valare Beauchamp They are charging now for the service, it's $4/m. I have been in tech decades, so maybe I will just learn how to build my own from their SDK.
Hi! I have a question. Do you know any device that tells you in which brain wave you are, like alpha,delta, theta, gamma waves? Please could you recommend me any? Thank you ✨
Cody... I'll make this short for now... My mom had a stroke in 2005... The day my wife and I got back from our honeymoon... Because I'm a nerd and we were just opening a computer shop.. I really wanted to develope something for my mom...and began...but between our business, helping with mom, and many other things...I never could build and develop what I talked about all the time... Do you have 20 mins to chat sometime personally to give me a current overview on some questions I have for hardware and to maybe even give me your thoughts on my overall ideas? You can call, email, text me.. If not, I understand. Cheers. J
I’m just seeing this now and love your review. New sub now! I have PTSD and my psychologist suggested the MUSE for me. She personally uses one. My mom got me the Muse2 for Christmas and just in a month I’ve noticed such a positive change in my anxiety level and being able to actually use less medication for panic attacks. I didn’t think there was anything that could help.
That's awesome. Have you done a professional EEG before? I am suffering from generalized anxiety/panic, dissoziative perceptual disorder, depressive upset, with a lot of symptoms... :( thank you very much
@@benjaminkottmann7381 hi there. I did go to a specialist a few years ago but only went to a couple of sessions. I think it would have helped if I had stuck with it. I love the idea that I can use my Muse at home. Take care!
I don’t care about research or marketplace - what’s going to work to help me change ME????? How do I do it and what works best - that is all I want to stay chill at all times - I want to build my best self
Hi Cody! Im new here, but I was looking for some info go buy an EEG device and I found your videos. Really good, well explained material. I just want to ask you one question: nowadays, some time after you uploaded this video in 2018, do you still think the same and would these advices be the same to buy an affordable EEG device in 2020 with artistic and audiovisual purposes? Hope you have time to answer, your opinion looks unvaluable on this field. Thank you very much, and subscribed!
Many people believe that Muse is better than NeuroSky due to the fact that Muse has four EEG channels against one of NeuroSky. But it is better to have one channel with reliable data than four channels with data of dubious quality. This scientific study ncbi.nlm.nih. gov/pmc/articles/PMC5540902/ (remove the space in the address) does not analyze the quality of recognizing the state of shamatha meditation, but the quality of the basic EEG reading, in which NeuroSky corresponds to professional electroencephalographs, and Muse does not. Thus, the Muse headset loses to the NeuroSky headset not only in recognizing the state of the user's shamatha meditation, but even in the quality of reading the raw EEG, which indicates the unreliability of the EEG data of the Muse headset. What is especially bad for meditators using Muse is that shamatha meditation is characterized by a dominance of alpha rhythm, which the Muse headset may sometimes not even notice at the level of reading raw EEG and determining the values of brain rhythms, which, of course, will cause a poor recognizing the presence of the state of shamatha meditation, see the description of the Figure 4 in the article about the peaks of the alpha rhythm. So far, it can be said that almost the only thing that Muse is better than NeuroSky in is its glamorous appearance. Comparison of Medical and Consumer Wireless EEG Systems for Use in Clinical Trials: two professional medical systems (electroencephalographs) B-Alert X24 and Enobio 20, as well as two consumer devices - NeuroSky MindWave Mobile and Muse: ncbi.nlm.nih. gov/pmc/articles/PMC5540902/ (remove the space in the address)
Hello, I just discovered you and I really like your videos. I would like to consult you on something. I want to submit a project to a competition with an EEG device. In the project, I will convert brain waves into motion with robotic coding. For this, I only have a budget of 500 dollars for the EEG device. I thought about using the Emotiv insight model, but things like license fees got in the way. I guess I can't communicate the device with the computer without getting a license. I don't have complete information on this subject, so I'm in the middle for the device I will buy. Which is the best device suitable for my budget for the project I will do, can you inform me exactly how is the license issue for Emotiv insight? Thank you.
I don't want to be bombarded by Bluetooth EMF just to analyze brainwaves, so are there any hard wired devices that can just tell me what brainwave i am at in real-time? I am learning how to consciously enter the theta state and i want to know without a doubt that it is working. Any ideas?
Thanks so much for this video. I did over a decade of binaural assisted meditation to increase Delta and gamma production And while I am happy with the subjective results, I'd like to actively measure my current brainwave states, and see if they change with other methods (I've maxed out binaural audio methods, and will be experimenting with other entrainment technologies) Based on this video, I think that means I want the raw data from muse, but is there a better tool you know of? Thanks for your help. (I use a Muse 1 as designed, and got an independent Android app for the data dump as well,, but it gives a measurement that is relative to calibration, which I was told isn't the raw data I need) Edit:spelling & un-correcting autocorrect
I've really been getting into EEG/VR and have been wondering which headset I wanted to pick up. This video comes at the perfect time. Great video. Love the channel.
"Neuromarketing", could you explain what is this about? Are all this fantastic device necessary connected to internet in order to work? Can work this device without internet connection?
Are you in Chicago? Are you talking about the DePaul university in Illinois or in Chicago? I have been a student of this school. I prefer the neurosky mindwave mobile because they have more games and they host your game on their site and I am experimenting with making a game for the headset.
Yes I am! Are you still a student? Send me an email at codyrall@techforpsych.com if you are interested in doing an EEG virtual reality project with some students there.
Emotiv is good but getting raw data is a pain in all the wrong places. Im talking after they went online data storage and people paying for it as a service.. sorry emotiv Epoch I love you but your company needs to support educational research
great channel, thanks! there is also Focus device, which is a bit more expensive, but also seems interesting.. I personally used MindWave for some time and it's not so good for sure.. now plan to get Muse
hey :-) great video,as usual :-) so this answered my question about which device 2 buy... its gonna b the muse since i m interested only in meditation... but there r still a few questions i have... 1. what is the max recording time of the muse?i thought it would b 5 hrs since that is the battery life it has,but in 1 of ur videos u said its max 45 minutes...this is very important 2 me since i wanna know more about my brainwaves when i reach the point of detaching completely from my body,which can take up 2 5hrs,so its important that i have also a 5hr recording option... 2.what is the data muse uses for the 3 states - active/neutral/calm -? i dont wanna just trust them blindly that they found the ultimate truth,specially since this field is still filled with many question-marks...what ratio of the different brainwaves do they choose for those states? 3.its great that muse has this neurofeedback with the waves,hard,soft,and birds,but i want another option where there isnt a constant sound so i can withdraw my attention more and more,so i would need the option of choosing shorter sounds...does muse app have this option,2 choose sounds and connect them 2 the brainwaves u want?and if not,is there an app out there which can do this? 4.my goal in meditation is 2 completely transcend physical body consciousness so i want a system like muse but with the option 2 choose the brainwaves and a short sound signaling when i enter different brainwaves,so for example if beta waves r the dominant wave then i choose a certain sound,same for alpha,theta and delta,just like its done with the muse app,but this way its more detailed,i would know with every sound which brainwave is strongest,so i can work on getting 2 delta and also c what is happening in my mind or meditation when i lose a certain state and go higher in frequency etc so is there an app that can do this?after i saw u mentioning muse monitor i looked it up,and found that it records all the different brainwaves but i think it doesnt have a neurofeedback option,right? or how about muse direct for ios?does it record all data and does it have a neurofeedback option?went 2 the appstore but the description wasnt very good... 5.so is there an app available which can give me what i need or do i have 2 download the SDK ,learn how 2 create an app,and do it myself??!! :-( lol oh,and 1 more :-) watching ur interview with Michael Decaire...he mentions in the beginning the test they did with the monk,and that his brainwaves dropped so crazy fast...did he tell u the results?which brainwaves were dominant,or the percentages,like x% delta,x%theta,x% alpha etc?
Which one do you think provides fastest control signal? I don't need too many channels for my app, but speed/response time is critical. Imagine I want to simulate a mouse click. What would be the best device and strategy for the user?
I just discovered you today. What a font of information! Might you know if neurofeedback could be useful for treating insomnia? I do not have anxiety about sleep (no rumination or busy thoughts at bedtime) but my brain is in a constant state of hyperarousal. I'm curious if neurofeedback can help me calm it down. I don't want to simply track my sleep. I want to retrain my brain.
An interesting and informative video, but you've really got to cut down on all this cross linking to other videos. It just gets annoying after a while. Just mention that you have links to all these other videos in the comments and move on.
I purchased Emotiv Epoc+ for Neuro research and it was a very bad experience. To noisy. If you want to do real research you need to spend the big bucks 20K + and get a real system. Their customer service was very bad as well trying to get a refund. Took months.
I am in doubt between the emotiv insight and the emotiv epoc. My goal is computer interface and research into depression and other mental health... Which one do you think fits better?
Hi, I really like your contents. I am also starting to do research on how meditation effects our brain in certain period of time. Would you mind to give me your email address, if I have couple questions to ask regarding which options would be best for my usage?
Hi Carla. I have heard good things about HeartMath and have seen it in action a few times. There's definitely a lot of research supporting heart rate variability measures of fitness, ect. However, there has been so much going on with EEG Devices that I have not had the chance to make a review video for it yet. Good to know there is a demand for it, I will look into it more. A lot of these devices are about to integrating all these modalities into single units, so more attention needs to be made to individual components like heart rhythm and how it might correspond to EEG :)
@@tweeniebee3032 I found better economy and application with a Polar H7 I bought used. I also have the Muse1 now and they pair quite well with their respective apps...giving me say HRV breathing with Elite app while I meditate on Muses sessions. I should also add that I have to use two tablets to drive that, maybe one expensive modern one would work if it allows more than one bluetooth...yet I have two low cost ones and they work great.
Depends on what area of the brain and what you are using it for. Both Muse and Emotiv can do real-time detection across that Wavelength spectrum, but less so in the Gamma range.
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Hi Cody, really enjoyed all your video~ I am very interested in the field of personal EEG device. I am currently in China and recently heard about a company called BrainCo and its Focus 1 products. I heard that the company is backed by Harvard and MIT and it claims that its technology is very good. The product is already for sale for about $500 I think. Is there any chance that you can look into this product in your future videos as you are the #1 expert on personal EEG on youtube? Thank you so much!
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Hello, iam alejandro torres de Colombia, I have seen your videos, although I am Spanish speaking, I want to ask for advice on the following. I know that each of the 5 brain waves is related to attention, memory, meditation, etc. I want to carry out a project where using different pedagogical strategies I can observe the waves in real time and be able to analyze behavior, I want the signal of the complete waves, that can be obtained either by means of electronics and doing a little engineering, which of the devices can you recommend. I want to observe the brain waves as I use videos, animations, teaching a class, and observe and then theorize and create a teaching model. Which of all the devices do you recommend? thanks
Years ago I encountered this technique before. I found it fascinating. I want to be able to use a device as pain therapy, to teach my brain to unlearn chronic pain. What do you recommend? Would the Insight 2.0 device be suitable for this? *1963, Cologne, Germany
Really liked this video! We've had multiple BCI projects at University of Florida, and for the most part we used Emotiv's Insight. I personally preferred using the Muse for its sleek design, ease of use and very little discomfort; but their developer and research tools took a lot of time to support their 2016 headset. Muse I/O is still unsupported for the 2016 headset. That really limits the capability of using an OSC with something like OpenVibe for the 2016 headset. Of course, there are 3rd party solutions available to this, but that says a lot about the company itself when they launch a new version of their headset without developer support for 2+ years after the launch.
Actually that's exactly what I'm looking into right now. I have an idea about detecting and using one (derived) parameter from the eeg data, and considering to buy one of these to experiment with. But official documentation says no support for dev.tools for Muse 2016, which can mean only that they stopped active development and support of the device and focused on selling whatever they produced so far. This is frustrating :(
Hey Cody thanks for your videos. I'm not new to meditation but I want to get better and I liked the idea of a biofeedback headband. I bought the Muse2 based on your videos, and after doing a couple sessions with the Muse2, I found out that I'm already spending 90%+ of my time in the "calm" range and virtually none in "active". Are there other metrics or combinations of metrics in Muse's platform that I can use to get better or have I essentially reached the limit of Muse's technological biofeedback capability? If so, are there other devices that are more advanced? My ultimate goal is to spend uninterrupted time in theta and eventually feel like pure consciousness (and ultimately heal myself) but I'm wondering if Muse2 technology and metrics are too "superficial" or maybe I'm better than I thought, but I don't think that's the case. Thanks!
@@WealthMe888 hi Denise I decided to return it because I found the shifting volumes of the white noise pretty distracting. I found it took me out of my internal state too much because I was too aware of the shifting volume in the feedback system. I also noticed I did quite well and so I figured it wasn't going to help take me deeper than what it was capable of measuring.
Cngrts for the knowledge effort! I have seen people connecting a few different brand devices to Ableton Live audio music software. Can you tell the cheapest one that can be conected send data to computer like Muse for example? The question actually is if those cheap brainlinks can do that conection too, even poorly.
For many years I lived in various ashrams and monasteries in India, and studied meditation. I did not study hatha yoga, only occasionally encountering it a little on various yoga and meditation courses in India. I'm interested in meditation, not physical acrobatics under the guise of yoga. If someone is interested in the history of hatha yoga, then there is a good book "Yoga Body: the Origins of Modern Posture Practice" (2010) by Mark Singleton. I would like this video review of the neuro headsets to be with list of specific facts and figures, rather than emotional speculations. In addition to the number of EEG channels, I did not hear other numbers. 1. Cody Rall: “I'm sorry NeuroSky MindWave Mobile but you are just sorely outclassed at this point.” - This statement is unfounded, because subsequent statements, alas, are untenable. Comparison with smartphones that have become 10 times more powerful is like comparing yellow to cold, if we talk about neuroheadsets. Any dry sensors still require periodical cleaning with alcohol disinfection pads - NeuroSky, Muse or any expensive electroencephalograph. There is still no revolution in signal-to-noise level, only rumours. 2. Cody Rall: “That was just a revolutionary step forward. The problem is this came out in 2011.” - Since then, there have been no real improvements in assessing the state of shamatha meditation through EEG. In addition, Muse assesses a state of mental relaxation rather than shamatha meditation. I have done a lot of comparison of these 2 neuroheadsets: scriptures.ru/yoga/eeg-meditation_headsets_comparison.htm#NeuroSky%20vs.%20Muse . The Muse is more glamorous, but less discursive. NeuroSky determines the state of shamatha meditation much more accurately. The algorithm for calculating the NeuroSky “meditation” parameter was developed as a result of many years of research of 14 masters of meditation, including Buddhist monks with extensive experience in meditation, and they could enter a state of meditation in a second and stay in 100% meditation for almost unlimited time. NeuroSky MindWave Mobile was not just a revolutionary step forward. It was really revolutionary headset. NeuroSky made the superior algorithm of “meditation” parameter, that is exactly corresponds to Buddhist shamatha. And that is the best thing that neuroheadset for meditators MUST have. Not a glamorous look, not 100,500 sensors, but an ideal algorithm for monitoring the state of meditation every second. 3. Cody Rall th-cam.com/video/7TtLFllWo8M/w-d-xo.html : “It’s only got one sensor.” - This is rough technical mistake. All NeuroSky headsets have 3 (three) sensors and 1 (one) EEG channel. And it is not a problem at all. Most channels still transmit very similar EEG signals. It’s better to have 1 channel with a reliable “meditation” parameter than 4 channels that show me 'Calm' range while I think and not in a state of meditation. A link to the comparison of NeuroSky & Muse is given above. If someone thinks he / she is a good meditator, I would recommend finding a friend with a NeuroSky headset and checking his / her meditation. You will see, how sensitive and accurate this headset is in response to a real state of meditation, and not just mental relaxation. 4. And then Cody Rall lists various specs and gossip: "There's been a lot of concern about signal-to-noise ratio over the years." - And no any scientifical proves, just talking. "Some studies (sic!) that showed that if you just put it on your hand that it was creating (sic!) these voltage changes, so how can you say that that's just talking about the brain?" - Really? A question: does Cody Rall even understand what EEG, nerve impulses, myograms are, and how does this all affect the electrical potentials on any part of the skin of a living person? Judging by the errors (channel ≠ sensor; myograms) that he makes in the review, he either does not have sufficient technical qualifications to compile such reviews, or simply does not like NeuroSky and denigrates it. I made my own experiment (not "studies"), shorting all 3 NeuroSky's sensors with a piece of unshielded wire in a room with a lot of working electrical equipment. The average values of none of the brain rhythms exceeded 1 μV (approximately 1 μV is 2000). So signal-to-noise ratio of NeuroSky headset is quite OK. Here is screenshot of this experiment: scriptures.ru/images/yoga/eeg/1mkv.jpg . By the way, Cody Rall has NeuroSky MindWave Mobile headset - I saw it in his video. It would be interesting to see his screenshots (similar to these: scriptures.ru/yoga/eeg_neuroexperimenter.htm#4.8_143 ) of what he considers his good meditation with NeuroSky headset. It can be in Fred Mellender's "NeuroExperimenter" free app sites.google.com/site/fredm/neuroexperimenter or in free Android "EEG Meditation" app. Because the main thing in the neuroheadset is not the trendy appearance, not the latest version of Bluetooth (NeuroSky has had Bluetooth 4.0 since 2016, starting from "Mindvave Mobile+" version and including "Mindvave Mobile 2" version), not the scattering of Swarovski crystals over the entire surface of the neuroheadset, but accurate and reliable parameter of shamatha meditation. But to comprehend this, you need to be a meditator, and not just a video blogger.
I have really bad experiences with emotiv, had lots of problems with their flimsy (but expensive) epoc, and their support is terrible. Now trying the mindwave mobile 2 and so far it is working well.
I am a beginner in all this I am suffering from major Anxity etc IWhat product should I start with I understand Muse has come out with a new product What would you suggest Tks
Thanks for the comment Gary! I would definitely recommend either the Muse 1 or Muse 2 for anxiety, depending on your budget. Muse 2 has more to explore with breathing and heart rate meditations. Review coming soon ;)
Hi Cody, I am a therapist, who make my own soothing music with 3D soundscapes and binaural beats included, usually theta waves, but also Alpha waves, I have purchased a Muse 2 headband. I would like to measure my clients brain activity to see if they manage to become calm and relaxed and go into Alpha or Theta state. What app would you recomend for android ?
Hi! Can you help me out? I just bought an Emotie EPOC+ and want to control robot arms and robots. But in free (Lite) version of the software I can't figure it out how to do that. It has 14 channels. (no option for gyroscope) I'd like to use all capacity of the headset, but not really understand how can i do that. Without internet connection, buying license and using web servers. I can gave it back because it's not cheap and cant use for my purpose for that much money. I have a 3d mouse and the software is free. (hotkeys + other stuff and don't needed monthly subscription)
If it's a medical condition I would consult with your PCM or neurologist. Perhaps the upcoming Muse Softband could help, however seizures can be small and localized and I'm not sure these devices are most appropriate. Definitely get a video EEG at the hospital if you have not done so already.
I recently attended a training session where the myemotiv headset and app were demonstrated. I particularly liked the real time brain activity display (not just brainwave traces). That was cool. Myemotiv seem to be the only app with this visual.
Hi Cody, I wanted to start a project of playing simple games like pokemon using EEG, by the information on the video I think the Emotiv products would work best. Although I was planning on getting the raw data and coding some mapping to the buttons, I am still researching to see what has been done like this so I am not sure if I would need the Emotiv pro access. Also I have a concern regarding the buttons because I would need maybe 6 inputs and I noticed a lot of the uses I have seen are maybe two (forward and backwards for a car for example) so I am not sure if this is a limitation for all these devices. Do you have any recommendations for which device can help me? Thanks
Sounds like a challenging project! Maybe start with Emotiv Insight for the basics and increase in complexity and cost of device from there? (Epoch then FLEX Emotiv) ?? That's what I would do.
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It's so rare that a video product comparison actually covers ALL the details I'm looking for. Thanks!
Thanks Kim!
Just so anyone watching in 2021 and beyond knows, he has much more up-to-date videos than this if you look at his channel.
Thanks NotKeltic! I hope you like the new content as well.
Emotiv Epoch has bad build quality . my unit cracked in half after several months of use
Whoa that's terrible
About Emotiv epoch : I used it a few times. two box packs were broken. a chronic problem device. The company does not protect its customers. I definitely do not recommend it. Pack is chronically problematic. The company does not produce a solution to this situation. He sold the product, took the money and got the job done.
can i record with MUSE my brain while watching TV and then analyze how my brainwaves reacted afterwards u? i have to use matlab and so on right? can i also analyze my meditation files with matlab after the sessions?
yes, with a 3rd part app called Mind Monitor
What would you recommend for a High School AP Psychology Teacher looking to make Neuroscience a little less abstract/textbooky and instead being able to have his students take a hands on approach... I was looking at Emotiv and while I personally really want the EPOC+ just because it's so cool, this would be a personal purchase not a school purchase and the EPOC+ is a "bit" out of my price range. I was thinking about the Emotiv Insight (I have not seen your videos on this device, but will take a look while awaiting a response)? What I would be doing with the students with the tech is mostly, but not entirely, looking at each other's EEG raw readouts and identifying different brainwave patterns/frequencies. Can the Insight provide raw readouts without purchasing the pro subscription (maybe through third party software) or is that the only way? I know you said the Muse can give the raw readouts, but it seems (from this video and from their own site) that the Muse's focus is specifically on meditation... Are there any apps for the Muse that would work with just general active behavior (so we could do things like comparing a students brainwave activity while shooting hoops to sitting in class). My concern is that I may run into the problem I ran into a few years ago when, with an older EEG meditation device, the app would stop recording data if you were way more active than you were supposed to be while meditating (I'm sure the device was more than capable of recording the data, but the app, which focused on meditation, purposefully stopped the recording if you tried using it for something other than meditating).
Can you use the Muse for things other than meditation and if so which Windows applications will I need to do so? Or should I go for the Insight and find a third party app or maybe even buy the subscription software? Or should I just go for broke and splurge on the EPOC+ and its software?
Any thoughts?
Edit (about 2 hours after my original post):
I did a little more research of my own (In addition to what I knew before I asked the question) and found that Muse has their own software called "Direct" which is pretty close to what I am looking for... It is less focused on Meditation and more so about collecting raw data. It's subscription price is also significantly lower than Emotiv's at $24 for a 1 year subscription. Based off what you know about the Emotiv and the Muse, what would you recommend?
It was funny as I read your post, because Muse Direct was exactly the thing I was going to recommend. It is a nice program and I am going to be making a video on it soon. Glad that you found it an attractive option. I think the comfortability of wear and ease of use will make it a more attractive in a classroom setting compared to the other devices. Awesome to hear it being used in this way!
Does Muse Direct allow for any sort of brain mapping? Like does the program allow us to look at what parts of the brain are firing like the Emotiv device can do with their software (I know some of the Emotiv software has the ability to look at like 3D models of the brain based on the collected EEG data... although I guess that's because it has so many more nodes on it)? The EEG is certainly the main thing I am looking for, but it would also be especially useful to have students be able to see a model of the brain lighting up in different areas for different activities. I'm guess Muse can't do it, but let me know if you know. Thank you!
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Hi Daniel! You sound like a great teacher :) Have you thought about using OpenBCI? It's as low as $349.99 for an EEG headset and all the software is free and open-source. Their customer service is fast too, from my personal experience
@Valare Beauchamp They are charging now for the service, it's $4/m. I have been in tech decades, so maybe I will just learn how to build my own from their SDK.
How did I end up here? I was only looking for muse's latest album 😨
Haha whoops
Could have been a subconscious message. Less music, more meditation!
Hi! I have a question. Do you know any device that tells you in which brain wave you are, like alpha,delta, theta, gamma waves? Please could you recommend me any? Thank you ✨
I need also an answer
I’d love to know too!
Cody...
I'll make this short for now...
My mom had a stroke in 2005...
The day my wife and I got back from our honeymoon...
Because I'm a nerd and we were just opening a computer shop..
I really wanted to develope something for my mom...and began...but between our business, helping with mom, and many other things...I never could build and develop what I talked about all the time...
Do you have 20 mins to chat sometime personally to give me a current overview on some questions I have for hardware and to maybe even give me your thoughts on my overall ideas?
You can call, email, text me..
If not, I understand.
Cheers.
J
Hi Jeremy. Email me your thoughts at codyrall@techforpsych.com and I can try and offer some insight :)
EMOTIV has zero customer service - I have called over 10 times and emailed many times and have never gotten a return call or email.
Unfortunately I have had similar experience lately
My experience is totally different !!! Direct, very kind and supportive responds. Couldn´t be better up to now.
@@claudiajakobs4673 sure emotiv bot
@@atro4280 definitely
Chinese business culture, unfortunately. Once they get your money you can’t expect much from them. Lower prices than USA products, however.
Are there any conflicts of interest here? Are you doing research using Muse or on behalf of Muse? I mean this earnestly :)
I disliked immediately because of the “I only want high motivational individuals marketing bullshit”. Just instantly lost all credibility
Sorry you feel that way Geoffrey!
I’m just seeing this now and love your review. New sub now! I have PTSD and my psychologist suggested the MUSE for me. She personally uses one. My mom got me the Muse2 for Christmas and just in a month I’ve noticed such a positive change in my anxiety level and being able to actually use less medication for panic attacks. I didn’t think there was anything that could help.
That's so awesome Jessica, glad to hear it's helping
That's awesome. Have you done a professional EEG before? I am suffering from generalized anxiety/panic, dissoziative perceptual disorder, depressive upset, with a lot of symptoms... :( thank you very much
@@benjaminkottmann7381 hi there. I did go to a specialist a few years ago but only went to a couple of sessions. I think it would have helped if I had stuck with it. I love the idea that I can use my Muse at home. Take care!
I don’t care about research or marketplace - what’s going to work to help me change ME????? How do I do it and what works best - that is all I want to stay chill at all times - I want to build my best self
Hi, Where does OpenBCI stand in this list?
I'm trying to get into BCI research with VR/AR
you are not able to meditate....smart business man.....talking....talking....(i think you love to hear yourself talking)
Thanks for the support of my talking! I'll keep trying to meditate ;)
I use my Muse for Anger Management along with seeing a professional therapist. I real like it and gives me a way of gauging my mediations
That's awesome
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I am looking for a personal eeg
Device that let me know when
I cross over to alpha/ theta
These are not real eegs they don't measure the waves in the brain, they sense the way you react to things. They couldn't detect absent seizures
Hi Cody! Im new here, but I was looking for some info go buy an EEG device and I found your videos. Really good, well explained material. I just want to ask you one question: nowadays, some time after you uploaded this video in 2018, do you still think the same and would these advices be the same to buy an affordable EEG device in 2020 with artistic and audiovisual purposes? Hope you have time to answer, your opinion looks unvaluable on this field. Thank you very much, and subscribed!
Which Personal EEG Device can make brain map? THANKS.
What can working this device any solution in paralyzes.
Paralysis? Unfortunately is would be limited for most forms.
Thoughts on Neurooptimal ?!
Sorry, haven't tried it yet!
Many people believe that Muse is better than NeuroSky due to the fact that Muse has four EEG channels against one of NeuroSky. But it is better to have one channel with reliable data than four channels with data of dubious quality. This scientific study ncbi.nlm.nih. gov/pmc/articles/PMC5540902/ (remove the space in the address) does not analyze the quality of recognizing the state of shamatha meditation, but the quality of the basic EEG reading, in which NeuroSky corresponds to professional electroencephalographs, and Muse does not. Thus, the Muse headset loses to the NeuroSky headset not only in recognizing the state of the user's shamatha meditation, but even in the quality of reading the raw EEG, which indicates the unreliability of the EEG data of the Muse headset.
What is especially bad for meditators using Muse is that shamatha meditation is characterized by a dominance of alpha rhythm, which the Muse headset may sometimes not even notice at the level of reading raw EEG and determining the values of brain rhythms, which, of course, will cause a poor recognizing the presence of the state of shamatha meditation, see the description of the Figure 4 in the article about the peaks of the alpha rhythm.
So far, it can be said that almost the only thing that Muse is better than NeuroSky in is its glamorous appearance.
Comparison of Medical and Consumer Wireless EEG Systems for Use in Clinical Trials: two professional medical systems (electroencephalographs) B-Alert X24 and Enobio 20, as well as two consumer devices - NeuroSky MindWave Mobile and Muse: ncbi.nlm.nih. gov/pmc/articles/PMC5540902/ (remove the space in the address)
Hello, I just discovered you and I really like your videos. I would like to consult you on something. I want to submit a project to a competition with an EEG device. In the project, I will convert brain waves into motion with robotic coding. For this, I only have a budget of 500 dollars for the EEG device. I thought about using the Emotiv insight model, but things like license fees got in the way. I guess I can't communicate the device with the computer without getting a license. I don't have complete information on this subject, so I'm in the middle for the device I will buy. Which is the best device suitable for my budget for the project I will do, can you inform me exactly how is the license issue for Emotiv insight? Thank you.
I need a Muse vs Mendi video. I'm not sure which one is right for me.
Coming up soon!!!
I don't want to be bombarded by Bluetooth EMF just to analyze brainwaves, so are there any hard wired devices that can just tell me what brainwave i am at in real-time? I am learning how to consciously enter the theta state and i want to know without a doubt that it is working. Any ideas?
Ehhh, the Bluetooth EMF is supposed to be much lower in energy than talking on a cell phone...
@@CodyRallMD regardless, i don't want any unnecessary emf at all. Any suggestions of hard wired devices?
Hey man... You a while ago sugested a neurosity crown for development and research, I just ordered mine! Thank you!!
Awesome! I'm literally wearing one right now lol
@@CodyRallMD is a little price... 😂 But I can't wait to receive mine and start to work with it.
Thanks so much for this video. I did over a decade of binaural assisted meditation to increase Delta and gamma production And while I am happy with the subjective results, I'd like to actively measure my current brainwave states, and see if they change with other methods (I've maxed out binaural audio methods, and will be experimenting with other entrainment technologies)
Based on this video, I think that means I want the raw data from muse, but is there a better tool you know of? Thanks for your help.
(I use a Muse 1 as designed, and got an independent Android app for the data dump as well,, but it gives a measurement that is relative to calibration, which I was told isn't the raw data I need)
Edit:spelling & un-correcting autocorrect
Have you checked out Muse Monitor? Good luck!
I've really been getting into EEG/VR and have been wondering which headset I wanted to pick up. This video comes at the perfect time.
Great video. Love the channel.
"Neuromarketing", could you explain what is this about? Are all this fantastic device necessary connected to internet in order to work? Can work this device without internet connection?
Are you in Chicago? Are you talking about the DePaul university in Illinois or in Chicago? I have been a student of this school. I prefer the neurosky mindwave mobile because they have more games and they host your game on their site and I am experimenting with making a game for the headset.
Yes I am! Are you still a student? Send me an email at codyrall@techforpsych.com if you are interested in doing an EEG virtual reality project with some students there.
Emotiv is good but getting raw data is a pain in all the wrong places. Im talking after they went online data storage and people paying for it as a service.. sorry emotiv Epoch I love you but your company needs to support educational research
Do you know if it's possible to use brain-computer interfacing to record sleeping dreams into audio-visual data/video?
there's no way in hell I'm paying monthly for access to the raw data. Emotive devices look great, but that's a dealbreaker
great channel, thanks!
there is also Focus device, which is a bit more expensive, but also seems interesting.. I personally used MindWave for some time and it's not so good for sure.. now plan to get Muse
Great to hear! Thanks for the support!
Hi ! Could you tell me please can one measure N400 variable with these mobile devices ? Thanks !
hey :-)
great video,as usual :-)
so this answered my question about which device 2 buy...
its gonna b the muse since i m interested only in meditation...
but there r still a few questions i have...
1. what is the max recording time of the muse?i thought it would b 5 hrs since that is the battery life it has,but in 1 of ur videos u said its max 45 minutes...this is very important 2 me since i wanna know more about my brainwaves when i reach the point of detaching completely from my body,which can take up 2 5hrs,so its important that i have also a 5hr recording option...
2.what is the data muse uses for the 3 states - active/neutral/calm -?
i dont wanna just trust them blindly that they found the ultimate truth,specially since this field is still filled with many question-marks...what ratio of the different brainwaves do they choose for those states?
3.its great that muse has this neurofeedback with the waves,hard,soft,and birds,but i want another option where there isnt a constant sound so i can withdraw my attention more and more,so i would need the option of choosing shorter sounds...does muse app have this option,2 choose sounds and connect them 2 the brainwaves u want?and if not,is there an app out there which can do this?
4.my goal in meditation is 2 completely transcend physical body consciousness so i want a system like muse but with the option 2 choose the brainwaves and a short sound signaling when i enter different brainwaves,so for example if beta waves r the dominant wave then i choose a certain sound,same for alpha,theta and delta,just like its done with the muse app,but this way its more detailed,i would know with every sound which brainwave is strongest,so i can work on getting 2 delta and also c what is happening in my mind or meditation when i lose a certain state and go higher in frequency etc
so is there an app that can do this?after i saw u mentioning muse monitor i looked it up,and found that it records all the different brainwaves but i think it doesnt have a neurofeedback option,right? or how about muse direct for ios?does it record all data and does it have a neurofeedback option?went 2 the appstore but the description wasnt very good...
5.so is there an app available which can give me what i need or do i have 2 download the SDK ,learn how 2 create an app,and do it myself??!! :-( lol
oh,and 1 more :-)
watching ur interview with Michael Decaire...he mentions in the beginning the test they did with the monk,and that his brainwaves dropped so crazy fast...did he tell u the results?which brainwaves were dominant,or the percentages,like x% delta,x%theta,x% alpha etc?
Which one do you think provides fastest control signal? I don't need too many channels for my app, but speed/response time is critical. Imagine I want to simulate a mouse click. What would be the best device and strategy for the user?
Probably Neurosity Crown at this point. But don't expect a lightning quick response. The field is moving forward, but not quite there yet.
OH WOW. I just saw how old this video is. Looking for newer,
Dr. Coby im a practitioner and I would like to get more info on the muse system, Thank you
I just discovered you today. What a font of information! Might you know if neurofeedback could be useful for treating insomnia? I do not have anxiety about sleep (no rumination or busy thoughts at bedtime) but my brain is in a constant state of hyperarousal. I'm curious if neurofeedback can help me calm it down. I don't want to simply track my sleep. I want to retrain my brain.
Yes you can definitely use neurofeedback for insomnia. Good luck!
An interesting and informative video, but you've really got to cut down on all this cross linking to other videos. It just gets annoying after a while. Just mention that you have links to all these other videos in the comments and move on.
Thanks that's good advice
I purchased Emotiv Epoc+ for Neuro research and it was a very bad experience. To noisy. If you want to do real research you need to spend the big bucks 20K + and get a real system. Their customer service was very bad as well trying to get a refund. Took months.
Whoa, sounds like a bad experience for sure
Brain computer interface / therapy 10:06
I am happy with my Muse headband.
This technology is something like 20 or 30 years old already isn't it?
Not the most recent devices. Or the software
I am in doubt between the emotiv insight and the emotiv epoc.
My goal is computer interface and research into depression and other mental health... Which one do you think fits better?
Honestly the Neurosity Crown is looking like a better and better options for such an endeavor. Emotiv's customer service has never been good.
What do you think about Sana?
I'll have to check it out!
Great intro into the current world of consumer EEG headsets. Thanks!
Thanks for your support!
Can you do a review of the Flowtime eeg headset. It looks much cheaper.
I'll look into it!
Did he mentioned that for Emotive you need to buy a license if you want to see a raw data?
Hi, I really like your contents. I am also starting to do research on how meditation effects our brain in certain period of time. Would you mind to give me your email address, if I have couple questions to ask regarding which options would be best for my usage?
codyrall@techforpsych.com
Hi Cody - Great videos! I notice you don't have any reviews on the HeartMath Inner Balance ear clip and app. What are your thoughts on it?
Hi Carla. I have heard good things about HeartMath and have seen it in action a few times. There's definitely a lot of research supporting heart rate variability measures of fitness, ect. However, there has been so much going on with EEG Devices that I have not had the chance to make a review video for it yet. Good to know there is a demand for it, I will look into it more. A lot of these devices are about to integrating all these modalities into single units, so more attention needs to be made to individual components like heart rhythm and how it might correspond to EEG :)
Fantastic! Thanks a lot👏👏👏
@@tweeniebee3032 I found better economy and application with a Polar H7 I bought used. I also have the Muse1 now and they pair quite well with their respective apps...giving me say HRV breathing with Elite app while I meditate on Muses sessions. I should also add that I have to use two tablets to drive that, maybe one expensive modern one would work if it allows more than one bluetooth...yet I have two low cost ones and they work great.
Dreem 2 is the BEST
Thanks for the comment Samy!
What EEG would you recommend improving the attention of ADHD 11 years old kid?.
Muse :) . Muse with Myndlift even better :)
You forgot about OpenBCI ! Can you a comparison between it and Emotiv?
What can protect or block our EEG waves?
Can you do an update on this, Muse S, research with ADHD and mindful cognitive behavioral therapy and meditation practices are showing real growth.
Muse S is coming up! Thanks for the suggestions
What is the best real time RAW Data EEG device for Delta, Theta, Alpha, Beta and Gamma state detection? Thanks!
Depends on what area of the brain and what you are using it for. Both Muse and Emotiv can do real-time detection across that Wavelength spectrum, but less so in the Gamma range.
Honestly, I recommend looking at how EEG devices work and make one. Learn how to program to access ports and create drivers.
i would love to hear more about the research into Ahah moments
Great Idea. People are really interested in Gamma wave spikes related to this. I'll see what I can do!
New Category, Apnea Disordered Sleep measurement. Lots of people have various types of disordered sleep. CPAP machines produce reports of events who’s validity require verification with sleep brain wave activity. We elderly folks have greater difficulty getting effective sleep. The durability and comfort of the device become more significant with the sleep application. Muse S(2) has durability issues in this application.
Dr Rall, would you say this is good for borderline personality disorder?
Meditation could definitely help improve emotional stability
This review was perfect! Thank you so much!
Glad you liked it!
Hi Cody, really enjoyed all your video~ I am very interested in the field of personal EEG device. I am currently in China and recently heard about a company called BrainCo and its Focus 1 products. I heard that the company is backed by Harvard and MIT and it claims that its technology is very good. The product is already for sale for about $500 I think. Is there any chance that you can look into this product in your future videos as you are the #1 expert on personal EEG on youtube? Thank you so much!
Thanks for the comment! I will definitely have to check out BrainCo and do a review!
yeeees eeg i love it is real, i understand the agenda, you can do amazing things with eeg new body and all you can imagine
Is there a unit that can detect Tinnitus ?
Not that I'm aware of, sorry
Which one able to send wave to our brain?
Can it help people with mobility problems?
Mous yang cocok untuk saya berlatih menurunkan dan mempertahankan gelombang otak tetap rendah.?
Juga bisa digunakan utk membuat program-program di kehidupan saya .
Sorry I don't know this language
Muse discontinued their SDK =(
Yes hopefully they will have it back up soon
Hello, iam alejandro torres de Colombia, I have seen your videos, although I am Spanish speaking, I want to ask for advice on the following.
I know that each of the 5 brain waves is related to attention, memory, meditation, etc. I want to carry out a project where using different pedagogical strategies I can observe the waves in real time and be able to analyze behavior, I want the signal of the complete waves, that can be obtained either by means of electronics and doing a little engineering, which of the devices can you recommend. I want to observe the brain waves as I use videos, animations, teaching a class, and observe and then theorize and create a teaching model. Which of all the devices do you recommend? thanks
Years ago I encountered this technique before. I found it fascinating. I want to be able to use a device as pain therapy, to teach my brain to unlearn chronic pain. What do you recommend? Would the Insight 2.0 device be suitable for this? *1963, Cologne, Germany
Is an emotiv epoc 1.0 for 120 a good deal?
Depends on what you are using it for. If it can still get raw EEG data and you are a researcher, go for it!
Really liked this video! We've had multiple BCI projects at University of Florida, and for the most part we used Emotiv's Insight. I personally preferred using the Muse for its sleek design, ease of use and very little discomfort; but their developer and research tools took a lot of time to support their 2016 headset. Muse I/O is still unsupported for the 2016 headset. That really limits the capability of using an OSC with something like OpenVibe for the 2016 headset. Of course, there are 3rd party solutions available to this, but that says a lot about the company itself when they launch a new version of their headset without developer support for 2+ years after the launch.
Actually that's exactly what I'm looking into right now. I have an idea about detecting and using one (derived) parameter from the eeg data, and considering to buy one of these to experiment with. But official documentation says no support for dev.tools for Muse 2016, which can mean only that they stopped active development and support of the device and focused on selling whatever they produced so far. This is frustrating :(
Also, it is almost end of 2018, and no new version of the device has been released or even announced...
Hey Cody thanks for your videos. I'm not new to meditation but I want to get better and I liked the idea of a biofeedback headband. I bought the Muse2 based on your videos, and after doing a couple sessions with the Muse2, I found out that I'm already spending 90%+ of my time in the "calm" range and virtually none in "active". Are there other metrics or combinations of metrics in Muse's platform that I can use to get better or have I essentially reached the limit of Muse's technological biofeedback capability? If so, are there other devices that are more advanced? My ultimate goal is to spend uninterrupted time in theta and eventually feel like pure consciousness (and ultimately heal myself) but I'm wondering if Muse2 technology and metrics are too "superficial" or maybe I'm better than I thought, but I don't think that's the case. Thanks!
HHi Omax can you provide an update regarding muse, since its been a yr what’s your take on it now. Thanks
@@WealthMe888 hi Denise I decided to return it because I found the shifting volumes of the white noise pretty distracting. I found it took me out of my internal state too much because I was too aware of the shifting volume in the feedback system. I also noticed I did quite well and so I figured it wasn't going to help take me deeper than what it was capable of measuring.
Thank you for the information!
Cngrts for the knowledge effort!
I have seen people connecting a few different brand devices to Ableton Live audio music software. Can you tell the cheapest one that can be conected send data to computer like Muse for example? The question actually is if those cheap brainlinks can do that conection too, even poorly.
Use Neeuro Senzeband
For many years I lived in various ashrams and monasteries in India, and studied meditation. I did not study hatha yoga, only occasionally encountering it a little on various yoga and meditation courses in India. I'm interested in meditation, not physical acrobatics under the guise of yoga. If someone is interested in the history of hatha yoga, then there is a good book "Yoga Body: the Origins of Modern Posture Practice" (2010) by Mark Singleton.
I would like this video review of the neuro headsets to be with list of specific facts and figures, rather than emotional speculations.
In addition to the number of EEG channels, I did not hear other numbers.
1. Cody Rall: “I'm sorry NeuroSky MindWave Mobile but you are just sorely outclassed at this point.”
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This statement is unfounded, because subsequent statements, alas, are untenable. Comparison with smartphones that have become 10 times more powerful is like comparing yellow to cold, if we talk about neuroheadsets. Any dry sensors still require periodical cleaning with alcohol disinfection pads - NeuroSky, Muse or any expensive electroencephalograph. There is still no revolution in signal-to-noise level, only rumours.
2. Cody Rall: “That was just a revolutionary step forward. The problem is this came out in 2011.”
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Since then, there have been no real improvements in assessing the state of shamatha meditation through EEG. In addition, Muse assesses a state of mental relaxation rather than shamatha meditation. I have done a lot of comparison of these 2 neuroheadsets: scriptures.ru/yoga/eeg-meditation_headsets_comparison.htm#NeuroSky%20vs.%20Muse . The Muse is more glamorous, but less discursive. NeuroSky determines the state of shamatha meditation much more accurately.
The algorithm for calculating the NeuroSky “meditation” parameter was developed as a result of many years of research of 14 masters of meditation, including Buddhist monks with extensive experience in meditation, and they could enter a state of meditation in a second and stay in 100% meditation for almost unlimited time.
NeuroSky MindWave Mobile was not just a revolutionary step forward. It was really revolutionary headset. NeuroSky made the superior algorithm of “meditation” parameter, that is exactly corresponds to Buddhist shamatha. And that is the best thing that neuroheadset for meditators MUST have. Not a glamorous look, not 100,500 sensors, but an ideal algorithm for monitoring the state of meditation every second.
3. Cody Rall th-cam.com/video/7TtLFllWo8M/w-d-xo.html : “It’s only got one sensor.”
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This is rough technical mistake. All NeuroSky headsets have 3 (three) sensors and 1 (one) EEG channel. And it is not a problem at all. Most channels still transmit very similar EEG signals. It’s better to have 1 channel with a reliable “meditation” parameter than 4 channels that show me 'Calm' range while I think and not in a state of meditation. A link to the comparison of NeuroSky & Muse is given above. If someone thinks he / she is a good meditator, I would recommend finding a friend with a NeuroSky headset and checking his / her meditation. You will see, how sensitive and accurate this headset is in response to a real state of meditation, and not just mental relaxation.
4. And then Cody Rall lists various specs and gossip: "There's been a lot of concern about signal-to-noise ratio over the years."
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And no any scientifical proves, just talking.
"Some studies (sic!) that showed that if you just put it on your hand that it was creating (sic!) these voltage changes, so how can you say that that's just talking about the brain?"
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Really? A question: does Cody Rall even understand what EEG, nerve impulses, myograms are, and how does this all affect the electrical potentials on any part of the skin of a living person? Judging by the errors (channel ≠ sensor; myograms) that he makes in the review, he either does not have sufficient technical qualifications to compile such reviews, or simply does not like NeuroSky and denigrates it.
I made my own experiment (not "studies"), shorting all 3 NeuroSky's sensors with a piece of unshielded wire in a room with a lot of working electrical equipment. The average values of none of the brain rhythms exceeded 1 μV (approximately 1 μV is 2000). So signal-to-noise ratio of NeuroSky headset is quite OK. Here is screenshot of this experiment: scriptures.ru/images/yoga/eeg/1mkv.jpg .
By the way, Cody Rall has NeuroSky MindWave Mobile headset - I saw it in his video. It would be interesting to see his screenshots (similar to these: scriptures.ru/yoga/eeg_neuroexperimenter.htm#4.8_143 ) of what he considers his good meditation with NeuroSky headset. It can be in Fred Mellender's "NeuroExperimenter" free app sites.google.com/site/fredm/neuroexperimenter or in free Android "EEG Meditation" app.
Because the main thing in the neuroheadset is not the trendy appearance, not the latest version of Bluetooth (NeuroSky has had Bluetooth 4.0 since 2016, starting from "Mindvave Mobile+" version and including "Mindvave Mobile 2" version), not the scattering of Swarovski crystals over the entire surface of the neuroheadset, but accurate and reliable parameter of shamatha meditation. But to comprehend this, you need to be a meditator, and not just a video blogger.
Thanks for the great review.
Wich device/sotware would you recomend for cognitive decline on elder people? Thanks in advance
I have really bad experiences with emotiv, had lots of problems with their flimsy (but expensive) epoc, and their support is terrible. Now trying the mindwave mobile 2 and so far it is working well.
I'm glad you found an alternative, naked cellist. I'm sure your concerts are fun.
I still watched the video tho...very informative 😀
Glad you liked it!
I typed in muse into eBay and all their albums popped up lol. I was looking for the headset and now I’m a Muse fan, go figure!
Can these be used to supplement onehanded gaming? ive lost the use of my right hand (dominant) and im big into FPS games.
I am a beginner in all this I am suffering from major Anxity etc IWhat product should I start with I understand Muse has come out with a new product What would you suggest Tks
Thanks for the comment Gary! I would definitely recommend either the Muse 1 or Muse 2 for anxiety, depending on your budget. Muse 2 has more to explore with breathing and heart rate meditations. Review coming soon ;)
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What do you recommend for meditation and mental clarity?
Hi Cody,
I am a therapist, who make my own soothing music with 3D soundscapes and binaural beats included, usually theta waves, but also Alpha waves, I have purchased a Muse 2 headband. I would like to measure my clients brain activity to see if they manage to become calm and relaxed and go into Alpha or Theta state. What app would you recomend for android ?
Muse Monitor for sure. Check out the Muse Facebook Community, they share graphs all the time.
Any of those (or others) can be used for measuring cognitive performance?
Hi!
Can you help me out?
I just bought an Emotie EPOC+ and want to control robot arms and robots.
But in free (Lite) version of the software I can't figure it out how to do that. It has 14 channels. (no option for gyroscope)
I'd like to use all capacity of the headset, but not really understand how can i do that. Without internet connection, buying license and using web servers.
I can gave it back because it's not cheap and cant use for my purpose for that much money.
I have a 3d mouse and the software is free. (hotkeys + other stuff and don't needed monthly subscription)
I Love this chanel from Indonesia 💕
Thanks Grahanyana
Hey cody, Nice review, do you offer coaching for free?
Can you tell me the difference between what this stuff does (EEG and Neurofeedback) versus tDCS products like Plato Work and Halo Sport?
Hi Dr. Rall,
What product would you recommend for monitoring seizure activity during sleep?
If it's a medical condition I would consult with your PCM or neurologist. Perhaps the upcoming Muse Softband could help, however seizures can be small and localized and I'm not sure these devices are most appropriate. Definitely get a video EEG at the hospital if you have not done so already.
I need somthing for my adhd. Can you please help
Meditate :)
I recently attended a training session where the myemotiv headset and app were demonstrated. I particularly liked the real time brain activity display (not just brainwave traces). That was cool. Myemotiv seem to be the only app with this visual.
Yes, seems to be at this time
Have you made a video on the HeartMath device yet? =D
No I need to! Thanks!
Is your friend still doing these studies into "ah ha" moments?
You must mean Joe Dispenza lol
Hi Cody, I wanted to start a project of playing simple games like pokemon using EEG, by the information on the video I think the Emotiv products would work best. Although I was planning on getting the raw data and coding some mapping to the buttons, I am still researching to see what has been done like this so I am not sure if I would need the Emotiv pro access. Also I have a concern regarding the buttons because I would need maybe 6 inputs and I noticed a lot of the uses I have seen are maybe two (forward and backwards for a car for example) so I am not sure if this is a limitation for all these devices. Do you have any recommendations for which device can help me?
Thanks
Sounds like a challenging project! Maybe start with Emotiv Insight for the basics and increase in complexity and cost of device from there? (Epoch then FLEX Emotiv) ?? That's what I would do.
Thanks! I'll contact you when I have something!
Step closer to the Sao world😊😊
Sao world?
@@CodyRallMD Sword art online :3 its a really nice anime series
I paint and I’m wondering if there’s anything that has a facility to help with creativity. Any advice anyone?
Cody, do you know any neurofeed back app/software compatible with muse eeg (other than myndlift?)