Had 3 of the 4 back in the late 90's - FTO GPX, Integra Type R, and Prelude Type S back in the '90s. Each was a good car in its own right. The Type R was more raucous and had more of a racer feel to it. The FTO's engine was very smooth, but my favorite was the Type S as a great all-rounder and it had a better cabin. They all loved to rev. Japanese engineering at its best.
***** tell that to the Viper. Although the 2010's muscle cars like the Shelby GTXXX Mustangs, and ZXX Camaros are great track cars, I will admit the 90s wasn't that great for turning, however what a 90s Camaro or Mustang lacked in the corners, they could make up for in the straights, what with their massive displacement, and V8 motors. I think a Mustang Cobra R, or a Camaro Z28 would've been great on one of these vids, but they're all 15-20 years old, so too late for that.
Tsukuba Circuit fits perfectly with small FF cars and transferring weight is the key to victory. Braking points are short and immediately after you're supposed to turn, so cars able to transfer weight to the nose, winning the understeer, can win. That's why Integra and FTO were leading, lighter than Prelude and Coupe. The Integra weights 1105kg, Coupe ranges from 1180kg to 1305kg.
I like the Fiat Coupé Turbo, and it's flat out at the outro part. While I'm partially stuck between the Honda Prelude, Mitsubishi FTO GP version R and the Fiat Coupé Turbo...
Its sad that the Integra has reached God status among the 90s sports cars but the FTO is just left to rot in people's front yards with parts missing even when it's performance was pretty close to the integra.
The FTO is a great car. Had 2. One was stock standard GPX and it was a fantastic car, the other stock standard GPX, however a Mitsubishi technician had carried out a bit of upgrading to the suspension, brakes, rigidity of the body and minor engine mods(cold air intake, high grade pod filter, light worx wheels and decent rubber)I t definitely made better driving on the open country roads. Felt like it was on rails compared to my first one I owned which was the exact same model minus the mods.
I had a 1994 (M reg) import fto mivec, around 2008ish, my mate had the inte type R, I know FTO won here but I spent many Friday and Saturday nights racing my mate up the dual carriageways and Type R is very marginally the quicker car, I would never admit that at the time that his car was ever so slightly quicker, but truth be told it really was, not much though, like, it was marginal, and he could never get away, both VERY impressive though. And very well matched, made for fun times
yeah that prelude driver was defianately not serious. These BM videos do have some bias. In another video the 5g S ran a second faster @ 1:10.30 and Ive also seen the 4g run a 1:10.82
@@Exhaust_power i was thinking the same thing, the prelude driver wasnt giving it enough gas to really make use of the atts he was slowing down way too much in the twists and taking the longer lines.
Had 3 of this nice. 90 s car. The 20 VTurbo Was very fast and looks well with body kit and ragazzon pipes, with ecu tuning about 280 hp. But later the engine blow off. Not so good engine. Best engine Was in the integra with b18. Abd nice vtec Sound. Now i have the prelude with h22a8, the engine is also good its very rare and inovatet with atts and 4ws. And Look very cool, beide and low. I wish the fto give wir left hand drive...
I thought Fiat Coupe turbo had one of the best (or the best at that time) FWD LSD so im really surprised that it couldnt put the power down out of the corners.
Not really, Coupe has just viscous LSD, Tegra has helical one, which is far superior, I think FTO has helical too. Prelude has ATTS, which is not my cup of tea tbh, but I heard some good things about it.
This is a base version 20v turbo,in the 1999 fiat has changed the suspension put a 225-45 wheels instead of 205-50 and a torsion bar so it's very much better than this in the race,but the coupè it's not made for track like Integra or FTO, it's a grantourer, but still have the better engine of the group
shraka What do you mean? The Fiat coupe is about 400 pounds heavier. If you read magazines from the time the Prelude was released it was compared to RWD cars it handled so well, better than the Integra GS-R and only below the Integra Type R. The suspension is double wishbone which is more advanced than the macpherson struts used on new Honda’s and this Fiat.
Yeah the Fiat is softer. I meant compared to the Integra. I'm certainly no expert but I've got a VTiR (GS-R / Si equiv) and I've driven a few Preludes (though I haven't driven that particular model hard) and the Integra feels like it changes direction far quicker for low speed corners. The Prelude may well handle high speed corners better, but it's suspension isn't that great for the kind of track they're on because it's a bit soft, or at least that's what I would suspect based on my experience with the Australian versions. The AUDM VTEC Preludes also seem to accelerate slower 0-100 than even the VTiR, though that could be gearing or slower drivers. I think the Prelude driver was doing what he could with the car. Just my 2c.
For having a V6 it never really made overly much power and wasn’t that fast, and being FWD, it sorta got forgotten about, I reckon if they were RWD they be well known. They’re also quite bad for rust, as I found out the hard way with my own fto...
ljkfto1986 They say that Integra type r was the best front wheel drive Japanese car at that time. But they were, for the most part, wrong, IMO! The FTO was better and had tech for the auto version, sourced from Porsche! A V6 Mivec 2 cylinder 2 litre putting out 200bhp! Both are fantastic cars but both have differing gear ratios and strengths!
Preludes are everywhere and cheap as hell, ITRs are very hard to come by stock with low miles, FTOs arent in the states but will be available to import next year, Fiat Coupes arent in the states but meh.
Mere seconds into the video and racism ensues! Haha - Why French accordion music to an Italian car and THE NOSE?! It's like the ANA advert 20 years before the ANA advert. Love Japan, can't be mad.
![[ENG CC] Under $30k Battle - Integra R DC2-DB8, Civic R, Prelude S, Skyline, Altezza in Tsukuba 1999](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/i8arJbtUSv8/mqdefault.jpg)
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The FTO is very impressive, unpopular opinion but i like the design looks very cool , love the front .
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Had 3 of the 4 back in the late 90's - FTO GPX, Integra Type R, and Prelude Type S back in the '90s. Each was a good car in its own right. The Type R was more raucous and had more of a racer feel to it. The FTO's engine was very smooth, but my favorite was the Type S as a great all-rounder and it had a better cabin. They all loved to rev. Japanese engineering at its best.
English captions for this video are now available.
+miroshi you guys should've used an American car at one point, like Camaro, or Mustang.
+PHJag but american cars are made for drag racing not track racing.
***** tell that to the Viper. Although the 2010's muscle cars like the Shelby GTXXX Mustangs, and ZXX Camaros are great track cars, I will admit the 90s wasn't that great for turning, however what a 90s Camaro or Mustang lacked in the corners, they could make up for in the straights, what with their massive displacement, and V8 motors. I think a Mustang Cobra R, or a Camaro Z28 would've been great on one of these vids, but they're all 15-20 years old, so too late for that.
I've had my Type R for 4 years and it still gives me goosebumps in the twisties
The english caption made all the difference, thanks.
I love watching the Honda Integra Type R DC5 race against contemporary rivals.
I'll always have a soft spot for the 22 lude.
Tsukuba Circuit fits perfectly with small FF cars and transferring weight is the key to victory. Braking points are short and immediately after you're supposed to turn, so cars able to transfer weight to the nose, winning the understeer, can win. That's why Integra and FTO were leading, lighter than Prelude and Coupe. The Integra weights 1105kg, Coupe ranges from 1180kg to 1305kg.
FTO=Gran Turismo License test
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@@sloweg3113 why
I like the Fiat Coupé Turbo, and it's flat out at the outro part. While I'm partially stuck between the Honda Prelude, Mitsubishi FTO GP version R and the Fiat Coupé Turbo...
*Any FTO Owner here ?* 🤔
I own one for 10 years and still love it!
Yes. I own a 1995 manual GPX FTO. Love it!
I don’t have one but I absolutely love them!!
I had a 95 GPX for 9 years, clocked up around 115k kilometers on it.
Great motors!
Many fun memories!
Yep I have a Version R like the one in this video ;)
Have a few videos of it on my channel:p
i have a 95 gpx and its the best thing ever
Its sad that the Integra has reached God status among the 90s sports cars but the FTO is just left to rot in people's front yards with parts missing even when it's performance was pretty close to the integra.
The FTO is a great car. Had 2. One was stock standard GPX and it was a fantastic car, the other stock standard GPX, however a Mitsubishi technician had carried out a bit of upgrading to the suspension, brakes, rigidity of the body and minor engine mods(cold air intake, high grade pod filter, light worx wheels and decent rubber)I t definitely made better driving on the open country roads. Felt like it was on rails compared to my first one I owned which was the exact same model minus the mods.
I had a 1994 (M reg) import fto mivec, around 2008ish, my mate had the inte type R, I know FTO won here but I spent many Friday and Saturday nights racing my mate up the dual carriageways and Type R is very marginally the quicker car, I would never admit that at the time that his car was ever so slightly quicker, but truth be told it really was, not much though, like, it was marginal, and he could never get away, both VERY impressive though. And very well matched, made for fun times
0:50 that was an impressive kick lmao
fto is love, fto is life
Love the Inte R. That's why I bought one 6 months ago
The prelude got pinned with a very calm driver,he looked like he was on a Sunday drive. He Didn't even bang gears.
Or its just a slow car around circuit....even modified
yeah that prelude driver was defianately not serious. These BM videos do have some bias. In another video the 5g S ran a second faster @ 1:10.30 and Ive also seen the 4g run a 1:10.82
@@Exhaust_power i was thinking the same thing, the prelude driver wasnt giving it enough gas to really make use of the atts he was slowing down way too much in the twists and taking the longer lines.
FTO GP versión R... The best !!
That integra sounds fucking incredible
that fto's mint
bumpak Looks to be that flavour
Im italian and that was funny ahah
Damn this looks like fun...
I'm Italian and not at all offended. It was hilarious lol
Had 3 of this nice. 90 s car.
The 20 VTurbo Was very fast and looks well with body kit and ragazzon pipes, with ecu tuning about 280 hp.
But later the engine blow off. Not so good engine.
Best engine Was in the integra with b18. Abd nice vtec Sound.
Now i have the prelude with h22a8, the engine is also good its very rare and inovatet with atts and 4ws. And Look very cool, beide and low.
I wish the fto give wir left hand drive...
I thought Fiat Coupe turbo had one of the best (or the best at that time) FWD LSD so im really surprised that it couldnt put the power down out of the corners.
Not really, Coupe has just viscous LSD, Tegra has helical one, which is far superior, I think FTO has helical too. Prelude has ATTS, which is not my cup of tea tbh, but I heard some good things about it.
The s-spec prelude has a lsd type s has atts. All factory lsds have weak engagements to help longevity.
And beside, the Coupe was driven by probably not a racer. It's mostly skill.
Fiat is 1500kg slug.
This is a base version 20v turbo,in the 1999 fiat has changed the suspension put a 225-45 wheels instead of 205-50 and a torsion bar so it's very much better than this in the race,but the coupè it's not made for track like Integra or FTO, it's a grantourer, but still have the better engine of the group
The design of the fto front bumper was the reason it won... no understeer / put the power down earlier. Despite having an iron block v6.
We need an Abarth Coupe to see how the car really goes.
only way to know what car is the fastest is same driver does all 4 cars and and times himself cause the preludes and fto driver where pretty bogus!!
Jc Perez fto driver was actually pretty good but the prelude driver looked like he was on a Sunday drive.
preludeF20Bking that’s cause he was in a prelude
The Prelude is pretty soft stock. Body is a bit heavy and suspension isn't that great.
shraka What do you mean? The Fiat coupe is about 400 pounds heavier. If you read magazines from the time the Prelude was released it was compared to RWD cars it handled so well, better than the Integra GS-R and only below the Integra Type R. The suspension is double wishbone which is more advanced than the macpherson struts used on new Honda’s and this Fiat.
Yeah the Fiat is softer. I meant compared to the Integra. I'm certainly no expert but I've got a VTiR (GS-R / Si equiv) and I've driven a few Preludes (though I haven't driven that particular model hard) and the Integra feels like it changes direction far quicker for low speed corners. The Prelude may well handle high speed corners better, but it's suspension isn't that great for the kind of track they're on because it's a bit soft, or at least that's what I would suspect based on my experience with the Australian versions. The AUDM VTEC Preludes also seem to accelerate slower 0-100 than even the VTiR, though that could be gearing or slower drivers. I think the Prelude driver was doing what he could with the car. Just my 2c.
WHY is the FTO not more popular?
It's a f**king ugly a** car,,,,,,,Can't you see????
Because it was never brought to America
@@marcusgarvin5272 no way, one of very few designs that have aged/dated really well. Got one so maybe biased......😉
Marcus Garvin I think you’ve got shit in your eyes
For having a V6 it never really made overly much power and wasn’t that fast, and being FWD, it sorta got forgotten about, I reckon if they were RWD they be well known. They’re also quite bad for rust, as I found out the hard way with my own fto...
Miroshi could you english subtitle the parts after 8.00mins. Would be interesting to hear what they say about the FTO and Integra
subtitles to all my videos are coming eventually, I gave a high priority to this video, so please be patient.
Thanks, Excellent work :)
***** thanks mate!
ljkfto1986 They say that Integra type r was the best front wheel drive Japanese car at that time. But they were, for the most part, wrong, IMO!
The FTO was better and had tech for the auto version, sourced from Porsche!
A V6 Mivec 2 cylinder 2 litre putting out 200bhp!
Both are fantastic cars but both have differing gear ratios and strengths!
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fto fto fto fto
That Prelude driver looked like a soccer mom in a minivan.
I wonder how prelude with 4ws would do on track
Its so unbelievable that the inte r weighs only 1050 kg
Good old times
Nowdays its minimum 1500 kg if you want a sporty car...
GT86? MX5? Alpine a110? lotus elise?
@@DethThrasher1 hes stupid lmao, he doesnt know anything. So dont worry
@@fto9398 lol why are you so mad?
Lotus and alpine are way too expensive
Mx5 is not a coupe and with gt86 he is right, still my statement stays
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5:53 I thought I was the only one that does that every now and then I hate when it happens.
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anyone wonder where these cars are today I would soo buy the r or prelude
Preludes are everywhere and cheap as hell, ITRs are very hard to come by stock with low miles, FTOs arent in the states but will be available to import next year, Fiat Coupes arent in the states but meh.
brooo the nose and the wig! Japanese are undefeated for this
That Fiat Coupe is as heavy as a Skyline GT-R or the Z32, 1550 kgs. The FTO is way lighter.
bellissimo ahuiauiahiaiha ...
il telaio della fiat coupè non nasce per le piste.
notare il tiro della coupe', sul dritto il type R sta' dietro... peccato che è una sottosterzona... thank you for this video!
Fto is not bad but come on guys it has a damn v6 engine
Watching this again the Fiat driver defo threw the race so it was an all jdm affair......No way a 20VT understeer's like that.
fto need change 4g63t is the best car
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プレリュードはアコード ユーロRのトランスミッションが付いてたら段違いに速かったはず。
まあプレリュードはそういう走る車じゃないからメーカーはやらなかったんだろうけど。
Remap the fiat and try again, that's the beauty of turbo
Prelude driver so bad it’s like it’s on purpose. Wtf
Mere seconds into the video and racism ensues! Haha - Why French accordion music to an Italian car and THE NOSE?! It's like the ANA advert 20 years before the ANA advert. Love Japan, can't be mad.
Yeah if they were only making this video in 2019 they'd have a massive racism outrage scandal. Too many snowflakes these days.
Lol, fiat coupe
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