This video is extremely helpful. Thank you. In my experience with Muslims I’ve found that Mark 16:9-19 is what they use the most to make their case against the Gospels. I Always end up discussing that ending.
The Qur'an claims to be written directly by God, and passed down completely unaltered. The Bible makes no such bombastic claim, but simply claims to be written by men, who were inspired to write about Divinity. The Bible also makes no bombastic claims of truth, other than Jesus saying in the Gospels that if you follow his teachings, then the truth and goodness of his teachings become self evident... Even Judaism only makes the reasonable claim that the Tanach/Old Testament is a collection of historical accounts, myths and legends, and writings that the community decided best represent their faith. The Muslims' entire "disproving" of the Bible is based on the completely false/ignorant Quranic premise that the Bible was written directly by God and then changed by the "corrupt" Christians and Jews... hence the "discrepancies"... when in fact, the Bible was written by many different men... men inspired by divine ideas... but men nonetheless... And the Christian and Jewish Canons were collected and settled over time from among the writings of inspired men, which the communities felt best represented their faith.
@@aboshoot "These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth." Qur'an 45:6 "It (the Quran) exists in the original Book with Us which is certainly Most Exalted, full of wisdom and (beyond linguistic structures)." -Quran 43: 4 "And with the truth We have sent the Qur'an down, and with the truth it has descended." Qur'an 17:105 None of these claims are true, the Qur'an was written by men. But that doesn't stop the Qur'an from making the claim that it was authored directly by God. And EVERYBODY , except you, knows that Muslims believe that the Earthly Qur'an is just a copy of the Eternal Qur'an that is in heaven. BTW, you are a rude moron who is too lazy to do a simple google search.
I just noticed for the first time this year that Mark prefaces his account of the Passion in a subtle way with the closing phrase in Ch13: “Stay awake, because you do not know when the master is coming, evening, midnight, cockcrow or dawn; if he comes unexpectedly, he must not find you asleep. What I am saying to you I say to all: Stay awake!” On the very next page these are the things of which all the disciples are immediately guilty. The disastrous moment comes at midnight. He asked them to watch and found them sleeping. Then sure enough the cock crows to announce that fateful dawn. I am sure that this must be deliberate. The expanded forms of the other synoptics lose the connection. What do you think?
Q: I may have an opportunity to work in Dubai for a few months.. I'm not sure if it's a good or bad idea! Any thoughts on Dubai or Islam/Christianity in Dubai?
Articles can be found all over the internet, so investigate for yourself. The UAE has varying degrees of Christian tolerance, and I don't know what country you're in, but in the mid-70s, American healthcare workers had to apply through the State Department if they wanted to work in KSA. My friend did apply, but backed away completely when she read the list of "do's and don'ts", so don't take any invitation lightly. Here's a basic article on the UAE: www.opendoorsusa.org/christian-persecution/world-watch-list/united-arab-emirates/ Always proceed with great caution.
Yeah, it depends on where you live. I know several people who have gone over there to work and enjoy it. I also know a Muslim who lives in Saudi and gets along very well with Christians. However, in both cases they are very westernized areas do to the nature of how the contract work is arranged.
*Islam Critiqued* My friend is female, and her list of crippling restrictions would have made her just another invisible, degraded female guest of the KSA government. She would have earned twice the amount she earned in US, tax free, IF she fulfilled her two-year obligation. Return home before the two years, and she'd be taxed at US rates. It was the closing paragraph that stopped her cold. It said something like, "If you offend this government to the degree you're arrested, your American embassy and your government can be of no help to you. You'll be under the control of Saudi jurisdiction". or some such dire warning. Neither of us knew anything about Saudi "justice", but with all her rules to follow, she decided she'd stay in the states. A female dentist emailed me a few years ago, through the soon defunct YT system, and asked me to pray for her. She was Christian, from the Philippines, working in KSA, and wondered if she might be in danger for playing her praise music too loudly. She'd been warned by officials to keep in down so others couldn't hear it. I asked her to stop it completely, but she wouldn't. Her passport was returned to her, and she was deported. I thought she was very lucky. KSA has some very rigid standards. Dubai is more liberal, but I don't know their level of tolerance.
The Emirates of Dubai and Sharjah have funded the construction of churches in their respective Emirates. UAE is extremely tolerant of Christians. There are hardly any conflicts there. UAE is a place that encourages tolerance of other cultures. Most Muslims I've encountered are very nice and friendly, and as long as you don't start the religious discussion with them, they'll make great and loyal friends.
This is very good subject. Can you make a series on bible credibility and why the Bible can not be forged as Muslims claims , this crucial to all Muslims and Christian as well thank you and God bless you and your work.
"As it is written in the Prophet Isaiah, and Malachi, and Moses, and David, and Daniel... " Yeah people need to keep in mind how badly written it would be not to conflate different sources.
I give this a thumbs up because it can be helpful to Christians, but I can nearly see Muslims' eyes glazing over during this video. Muslims aren't cultured to be deep thinkers, and if they're asking questions, it's usually an effort to expose Christianity, not to actually learn something. This is going to sound really creepy, but I think you need to use the KISS approach to Muslim questions. You're dealing with intellectual children. Just a thought from the peanut gallery.
*Islam Critiqued* But you're primary circle is academic, Muslims operate by community pressure, ritual, and recitations. If you had said to me what you've said in this video, my atheist heart would have shut down completely. I spoke to my children far differently when they were five, than when they were fifteen. Muslims are intellectual toddlers. You've read the Quran; you know the intellectual refuse it contains. It's tough to jump from preschool to college. I hope I never forget what it felt like to be lost; it was the words of Christ that broke me, and I'm not exactly stupid. We can agree to disagree, but I think you're speaking way over the heads of your stated target audience. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised, but I don't anticipate it.
*Islam Critiqued* That's why, as preferable as it is to hang out with scholars, we've got to mingle with Muslims; it's the only way to get a handle on their true depth of denial, misinformation, dedication to Muhammad, etc. etc. I was just a basic booger-head-atheist, and they're a loosey-goosey bunch. No core text, no weekly meetings, nothing to study, no central doctrine of belief, nothing that really binds them together as a cohesive unit, but an irrational rejection of God. Not much exposure is needed, just pick your favorite poison (mine is NOT Dawkins), and listen to a few videos. Vocab Malone's main focus has been on the BHI's, and I've listened to one video from a specific sect, but I'm not interested in "knowing" what they believe, so I ignore them. Still, their growing militancy needs to be addressed, so I'm glad Vocab has been carrying that burden for the rest of us. I had a Book of Mormon, but wasn't interested in that group either, so when the book was lost in a basement flood, I never bothered to replace it. Islam grabbed my attention on 9/11, and I wanted to know everything about Muslims, and if that meant agonizing through some of Deedat's filth (I actually read his entire "Combat Kit Against Bible Thumpers", so I know when some daft Muslim is quoting from its filth), and the lunacy of Naik, the deceit of Ally, Bilal Philips, Sarsour, and many others. I did it without regret. I visited Muslim rooms in PalTalk, listened to them when they came to Arab Christian rooms, and learned something from each effort. I've seen dozens of links to Islamic sites disappear, and I think it's because the kufar were using the teachings as weapons against Islam. I expect more of my links to disappear, but at this point, it will be OK. I only need about 4% of what I know to refute Muslims; they have a very limited scope of criticisms, a single script, and it's dreadfully moldy. I couldn't learn that from any scholar, so it's something that needs to be waded through on our own. Fortunately, I never had to strive for the tenacity to do it, to 'git'er done', because when I read my first Quran, I was driven to find out how Islam can exist on such intellectual squalor. What makes Muslims "tick"? That's where two years in PalTalk was of greater benefit to me than reading all the websites, and all the Qurans, and all the auxiliary texts. All I had to do was log in, head to a few of its 5000+ rooms, sit back, and prepare to learn. I've earned my right to close their books, and take a parasitic approach with people like you. You do the studying and teaching; I'll be your audience. I 'spect I'll be hanging with you till the Lord calls me home. I want Muslims to hang out here, too! So dumb it down by about 50 IQ points! ;-)
Muslims aren't cultured to be deep thinkers.... HAHAHA Let me remind you with 1 example here and (a long list for you to do your homework): Without "AL-GORITHM" yes that's right... without it there will be no TH-cam, Laptops, Internet, Google etc. so who introduced the world to "AL-GORITHM"? Without "AL-GEBRA" yes that's right... without it there will not be possible to do complex scientific calculations... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Compendious_Book_on_Calculation_by_Completion_and_Balancing Al-Khwarizmi is regarded as "the father of algebra, A deep thinker Muslim en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world and watch this : th-cam.com/video/rhM5lbVBgkk/w-d-xo.html This has dismantled the scripture. Nailed it. God gave you brain, use your brain.apply reason, apply your intelligence.
Not sure what you're implying here, I won't give you a popcorn worthy response. Several noted NT scholars concur with Licona's analysis, McKnight, Brock, Bauckham to name a few. While I can appreciate McGrew's work to some extent, ultimately I follow an axiom I embraced long ago- I get my Old Testament scholarship from Old Testament scholars, and I get my New Testament scholarship from New Testament scholars.
@@IslamCritiqued No, I'm referring to theological content. There is a theological theory that bothers me that is made in John that doesn't seem to be made in any of the other gospels (i'm not counting Mark, because of the "unreliable" part that includes it. The theory is that a human being can trump the divine redemptive work of God.....a man can nullify the biggest event in history, simply by not believing in it!. What power! (John 3:18) If belief in a theory (I consider "truth" to fall into two categories, empirical and theoretical. Almost all theology falling into the "theory" category, which in no way implies that it is not true, just not provable empirically) So if one does not believe an un-proveable theory then one is given the "justice" of eternal unending suffering, torture at the hands of a just God and his torturing angels. Tortured, I might add, in the way that ISIS burned that pilot alive, except over and over and over, not only for his own sin, but for not believing an unproveable theory of redemption. (One that I happen to believe). Personally , I don't like that theory, for a few reasons. It doesn't stand up to the "all matters of importance should be validated by 2 or 3 witnesses" from the OT. (Please forgive my limited grasp of scripture!) If this principle is a matter of import, and it would seem to be, then it should be reiterated by Jesus via the other gospel writers. The "witnesses", as it were. The second reason that I don't like it is that it seems to contradict the theory that Christ took all of my sins in his own body, before I was ever born, and totally paid the price for those sins, before I was ever born, and that God went to all that trouble, and Christ went through all that pain and punishment, and that I can nullify it as long as I just don't believe it. It seems to do a grave disservice to the work of the cross. I also don't like it because it doesn't seem just or loving. Eternal torture is the penalty for not believing a theory? (i understand the eternal punishment is for sin, but if you miss out on the redemption because of your unbelief, then you are really being punished for your unbelief. The 3rd reason I don't like it, is that perdition, eternal hell fire and torture, is the only thing (that I know of, correct me if I'm wrong) that "christianity" has in common with Islam. That makes it a pretty suspect theory in my humble opinion. We understand why Mohammed used the gruesome hellfire torture scenarios to motivate his followers. What worldly wisdom this man possessed. Wise as a serpent! Back to John...of course John has many other wonderfully mystical and esoteric sayings of Jesus , not found elsewhere, and those I love... water of life...etc, etc..beautiful soaring metaphors of spiritual life, but again, John stands alone in these things. So, if you've done any videos on the unusual nature of the gospel of John, I'd love to see it. If you can direct me to anyone teaching on this, I would be interested in that as well. If you feel differently about the non-belief in theory = eternal skin melting/frying, I would love to hear your views. Thank you so much for taking the time to do these excellent videos, they stretch and enlighten the intellect . More facts, more freedom. God bless!
I would also add that as a premise, I believe in the divine INSPIRATION of scripture. God breathed it , didn't speak it. And he inspires it. And it's profitable. I agree with Timothy on all that. I do not believe in the INFALLIBILITY of the Bible, as that is not even an idea that can be found in the bible. (correct me if I'm wrong). If this premise is wrong, I need to know it, but I haven't seen any argument for that idea that makes any sense, and I believe the idea of biblical inerrantcy is a "Low view" of scripture. Thanks for taking the time to read and respond. I appreciate it!
To try to condense your longer comment above, citing John 3.18, belief is tied to salvation elsewhere in the gospels, i.e. Luke 8, see esp v.12 for the close connection between belief and salvation. If I have it right, in recoiling at Dante's "Inferno" concept of hell, you're wanting to tend toward a more universalistic approach, i.e. one's unbelief can't trump God's redemptive work? This would be clearly contradicted in numerous places in the gospels alone which require a believing loyalty to be saved, not surprisingly since this is right along the lines of the old testament. Hell is a complex topic. I guess I would simply encourage you to distance yourself from "Dante" imagery, realize that much of the imagery in the biblical text appears to be "stock" language in contemporary jewish literature. At the same time, God's judgment is severe, as is the sin, and hell shouldn't be defined in such a way to suite apologetic purposes. But the reality is that there are multiple interpretations of hell/eternal, conscious punishment by scholars and theologians who hold an equally high view of scripture.
@@KingHuddaDudda Read the whole paragraph, it's more than just to believe, "This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil." (John3: 19). Like that, it's not enough to believe (demons believe too and they tremble), but to repent. They who don't believe in the light also keep walking in the dark, so they won't ever have the heart required for God to write His law on it. Remember that we are temples, and - to make a parallel between the Temple or rather the Tent of Meeting - our hearts are for everyone the Holy of Holies that have to have the Ark of Covenant inside, with the written commendments. In Romans 2: 14-15 it say about gentiles that have a heart ready to receive the commendments, they may believe in Jesus even if they don't know Him, because they follow (unknowingly) the will of God. The same thing might apply (I believe) for those who hear the Gospel but don't believe it to be true, yet they do what is good in the eyes of God, not because they were told to by their own religion, but because their heart. So, I think it have to do with what path you walk, of the light (ben Abel) or dark (ben Cain).
Can I just say that though I'm an atheist I avidly follow your channel to gain knowledge to counter Muslims I see in the groups I'm in and the lies they spread. I was raised a Christian and it annoys me the nonsense Muslims spread about the Bible and Christians to try and legitimise the Qur'an.
Not sure what you're implying here, I won't give you a popcorn worthy response. Several noted NT scholars concur with Licona's analysis, McKnight, Brock, Bauckham to name a few. While I can appreciate McGrew's work to some extent, ultimately I follow an axiom I embraced long ago- I get my Old Testament scholarship from Old Testament scholars, and I get my New Testament scholarship from New Testament scholars.
Islam Critiqued I said I was grabbing popcorn as I started the video. It was basically me saying that I was going to be interested in what you had to say in the video. It wasn’t to see “sparks fly” between you and Lydia McGrew.
So let me get this, are you saying that disciples added something in the Bible that didn’t happen just to bring attention of the readers to some point????? Please brother let me know
question is How much were they allowed to add according to the literary style of that time? cuz non believers then can say that if disciples added that information then they could’ve added other much more information ..
"How much were they allowed to add according to the literary style of that time?" This is simplistic. It's not as though they just added and subtracted freely. It's that they shaped their narratives according to the literary devices of their day.
If you don't understand English then why are you watching the video? I doubt he knows enough Arabic to have a worthwhile conversation/dialogue. Thanks for comming. However, I think your attempts to talk are futile.
( 62 ) Indeed, this is the true narration. And there is no deity except Allah. And indeed, Allah is the Exalted in Might, the Wise. ( 63 ) But if they turn away, then indeed - Allah is Knowing of the corrupters. ( 64 ) Say, "O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you - that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah." But if they turn away, then say, "Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him]." ( 65 ) O People of the Scripture, why do you argue about Abraham while the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed until after him? Then will you not reason? ( 66 ) Here you are - those who have argued about that of which you have [some] knowledge, but why do you argue about that of which you have no knowledge? And Allah knows, while you know not. ( 67 ) Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists. ( 68 ) Indeed, the most worthy of Abraham among the people are those who followed him [in submission to Allah] and this prophet, and those who believe [in his message]. And Allah is the ally of the believers. ( 69 ) A faction of the people of the Scripture wish they could mislead you. But they do not mislead except themselves, and they perceive [it] not. ( 70 ) O People of the Scripture, why do you disbelieve in the verses of Allah while you witness [to their truth]?
Indeed, (62) Quran is just a plagiate of the Bible (63) Allah is the greatest of deceivers (64) Islam is spread through violence (65) Quran merely copied Abraham from the Torah (66) Allah knows, again, how to deceive best (67) Abraham was not submitting, he was trusting, and not on Allah but in YHVH (68) Abraham believed and it was accounted to him for righteousness (69) the people of the Scripture won't do that, only false preachers who are actually not of the Scripture, but preach their own gospel - such as the gospel of richness. (70) because we trully believe that Allah is the god of this world. Satan means deceiver, Allah is the best of all deceivers, I need no better argument to stay away from his false teachings Where are numbers 1-61? i would have so much fun writting what i think about those too, after i read them?
I like your videos, but according to the gospel of Luke when Jesus does many things in the same day, I want to express myself from a Catholic thinking. We believe also that there’s a gift or miracles made by God thru Jesus or even men what we call bilocation, we believe that people Jesus was able to be at 2 different places at the same time, this is well know In the Catholic Church, there has been many cases of this type
Thanks for your comment! How would this address the time differences between that chapter and the beginning of Acts? Here, obviously I appeal to common literary motives in antiquity as a plausible explanation. I'm not sure how bilocation would explain the different times?
You’re right I’m sorry I think I misinterpreted the chapter, and yes it’s probably that all (the resurrection) was just resumed in a chapter, cause like John 21:25 says “He did many things that if written, wouldn’t fit in all books of the world”
yeah but the whole point is that the authors of the gospels quote the OT with reference and take the verse out of context to talk about Jesus , this is not quotations these are misquotation and the Jews are very pissed because of what the gospel writers and paul precisely did with the Jewish bible .
@@IslamCritiqued Really? How is Christianity Coherant with the Message of the prophets if you have a new concept of God and you dropped the laws of the prophets ..
@@IslamCritiqued Ok Jeremiah speaks of a new Covenant not a New concept of God . you cant possibly come here and tell me that jeremiah or any other prophet Believed God is truine . and you can't possibly tell me that your church fathers knew God better then the prophets themselves , i simply can't accept that .
@@revdznet "Ok Jeremiah speaks of a new Covenant not a New concept of God " Read what I said above: "The concept of God is precisely the same." Please watch this before continuing: th-cam.com/video/ObtYkLHu_CM/w-d-xo.html
Stop thinking like a child. The God of Christianity is not confined to preschool math. This is an absolutely ridiculous objection. Your "knowledge" of the Trinity is what you get from the Quran, which is a joke. If you want to critic the Trinity, do so by engaging with the content in these videos: th-cam.com/video/ObtYkLHu_CM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/KMTlbtbgp0s/w-d-xo.html
You are over powering a weak point without giving credit to important point gospels do the same. It was not even necessary to mention in bible, Jesus rode a donkey and four gospels' writers found strong point recording for coming generation. But when John recorded that a soldier comes and piers the body of Jesus with Lance, three other writers found useless to mention. By God's grace Muslims are care full to recognise the creeping bugs.
John was younger and in a time of youthful formation when he witnessed JESUS' ministry. We remember formative memories from childhood more clearly than others. Matthew was older and recounted memorable sayings and placed them into a framework for context. Luke was writing more a narrative in which he highlighted sayings that illuminated the reasons for his deeds. Mark wrote out accounts listening to Peter's sermons and had not yet finished placing them in chronological order. He did follow the general chronology but placed some details in a series so as to draw a straight line of thought on certain things he brought out from history. John remembered long conversations from his youth and had read the earlier gospels which were only written (at least two of them) for readings in church. Luke was for learning history. John saw the need to fill in in writing things he didn't want forgotten after his passing in the mists of oral tradition. The things you say are not important are fulfilled prophecies, like riding on three donkey. John alone of those four stood by the cross and saw the spear detail with Mary. That's right, one of the Jews that saw JESUS crucified and killed was Mary HIS mother according to the flesh. John foretold that Muhammad was the false prophet.
Good point about the sandwich method. Tradition says Mark, as a Levite, served in the Temple before joining the Church. He knew priestly scroll texts.
This video is extremely helpful. Thank you. In my experience with Muslims I’ve found that Mark 16:9-19 is what they use the most to make their case against the Gospels. I Always end up discussing that ending.
The Qur'an claims to be written directly by God, and passed down completely unaltered. The Bible makes no such bombastic claim, but simply claims to be written by men, who were inspired to write about Divinity.
The Bible also makes no bombastic claims of truth, other than Jesus saying in the Gospels that if you follow his teachings, then the truth and goodness of his teachings become self evident...
Even Judaism only makes the reasonable claim that the Tanach/Old Testament is a collection of historical accounts, myths and legends, and writings that the community decided best represent their faith.
The Muslims' entire "disproving" of the Bible is based on the completely false/ignorant Quranic premise that the Bible was written directly by God and then changed by the "corrupt" Christians and Jews... hence the "discrepancies"... when in fact, the Bible was written by many different men... men inspired by divine ideas... but men nonetheless... And the Christian and Jewish Canons were collected and settled over time from among the writings of inspired men, which the communities felt best represented their faith.
@Philip Garrod god bless you my brother may you find peace
Um u satrted ur comment with a lie so i stoped reading ur lie
Where did quran claim that quran is directly written by god?
Ans me or admit u are lying
@@SKgyebaek god of Jesus bless u too
@@aboshoot "These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth." Qur'an 45:6
"It (the Quran) exists in the original Book with Us which is certainly Most Exalted, full of wisdom and (beyond linguistic structures)." -Quran 43: 4
"And with the truth We have sent the Qur'an down, and with the truth it has descended." Qur'an 17:105
None of these claims are true, the Qur'an was written by men. But that doesn't stop the Qur'an from making the claim that it was authored directly by God. And EVERYBODY , except you, knows that Muslims believe that the Earthly Qur'an is just a copy of the Eternal Qur'an that is in heaven.
BTW, you are a rude moron who is too lazy to do a simple google search.
@Philip Garrod You are the stupid donkey who cannot even spell "stupid correctly. :)
I just noticed for
the first time this year that Mark prefaces his account of the Passion in a subtle way with the closing phrase in Ch13: “Stay awake, because you do not know when the master is coming, evening, midnight, cockcrow or dawn; if he comes unexpectedly, he must not find you asleep. What I am saying to you I say to all: Stay awake!” On the very next page these are the things of which all the disciples are immediately guilty. The disastrous moment comes at midnight. He asked them to watch and found them sleeping. Then sure enough the cock crows to announce that fateful dawn. I am sure that this must be deliberate. The expanded forms of the other synoptics lose the connection. What do you think?
Could me...there's a lot of subtle stuff going on in Mark that is only now starting to be realized!
Q: I may have an opportunity to work in Dubai for a few months.. I'm not sure if it's a good or bad idea! Any thoughts on Dubai or Islam/Christianity in Dubai?
Articles can be found all over the internet, so investigate for yourself. The UAE has varying degrees of Christian tolerance, and I don't know what country you're in, but in the mid-70s, American healthcare workers had to apply through the State Department if they wanted to work in KSA. My friend did apply, but backed away completely when she read the list of "do's and don'ts", so don't take any invitation lightly.
Here's a basic article on the UAE: www.opendoorsusa.org/christian-persecution/world-watch-list/united-arab-emirates/
Always proceed with great caution.
Yeah, it depends on where you live. I know several people who have gone over there to work and enjoy it. I also know a Muslim who lives in Saudi and gets along very well with Christians. However, in both cases they are very westernized areas do to the nature of how the contract work is arranged.
*Islam Critiqued* My friend is female, and her list of crippling restrictions would have made her just another invisible, degraded female guest of the KSA government. She would have earned twice the amount she earned in US, tax free, IF she fulfilled her two-year obligation. Return home before the two years, and she'd be taxed at US rates. It was the closing paragraph that stopped her cold. It said something like, "If you offend this government to the degree you're arrested, your American embassy and your government can be of no help to you. You'll be under the control of Saudi jurisdiction". or some such dire warning. Neither of us knew anything about Saudi "justice", but with all her rules to follow, she decided she'd stay in the states.
A female dentist emailed me a few years ago, through the soon defunct YT system, and asked me to pray for her. She was Christian, from the Philippines, working in KSA, and wondered if she might be in danger for playing her praise music too loudly. She'd been warned by officials to keep in down so others couldn't hear it. I asked her to stop it completely, but she wouldn't. Her passport was returned to her, and she was deported. I thought she was very lucky. KSA has some very rigid standards.
Dubai is more liberal, but I don't know their level of tolerance.
The Emirates of Dubai and Sharjah have funded the construction of churches in their respective Emirates. UAE is extremely tolerant of Christians. There are hardly any conflicts there. UAE is a place that encourages tolerance of other cultures. Most Muslims I've encountered are very nice and friendly, and as long as you don't start the religious discussion with them, they'll make great and loyal friends.
If you're going to be a xenophobic idiot, don't go there. It's not a place for you
Hey, interesting channel, have you considered creating a discord server so you can build up a community to help you?
Ash hmmm....don’t even know what that is. Haha
@@IslamCritiqued That'd be a good option.
@@IslamCritiqued It's a cool way to organize an internet community.
Excellent power point, I learnt quite a bit 👍
This is very good subject. Can you make a series on bible credibility and why the Bible can not be forged as Muslims claims , this crucial to all Muslims and Christian as well thank you and God bless you and your work.
"As it is written in the Prophet Isaiah, and Malachi, and Moses, and David, and Daniel... "
Yeah people need to keep in mind how badly written it would be not to conflate different sources.
I give this a thumbs up because it can be helpful to Christians, but I can nearly see Muslims' eyes glazing over during this video. Muslims aren't cultured to be deep thinkers, and if they're asking questions, it's usually an effort to expose Christianity, not to actually learn something. This is going to sound really creepy, but I think you need to use the KISS approach to Muslim questions. You're dealing with intellectual children. Just a thought from the peanut gallery.
Betsy Ross to me, this is an extremely simple, straightforward video- not in depth at all. I hope I’m not over anyone’s head.
*Islam Critiqued* But you're primary circle is academic, Muslims operate by community pressure, ritual, and recitations.
If you had said to me what you've said in this video, my atheist heart would have shut down completely. I spoke to my children far differently when they were five, than when they were fifteen. Muslims are intellectual toddlers. You've read the Quran; you know the intellectual refuse it contains. It's tough to jump from preschool to college. I hope I never forget what it felt like to be lost; it was the words of Christ that broke me, and I'm not exactly stupid.
We can agree to disagree, but I think you're speaking way over the heads of your stated target audience. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised, but I don't anticipate it.
After seeing your comment I see where someone else just posted a Zakir Naik video below...
*Islam Critiqued* That's why, as preferable as it is to hang out with scholars, we've got to mingle with Muslims; it's the only way to get a handle on their true depth of denial, misinformation, dedication to Muhammad, etc. etc.
I was just a basic booger-head-atheist, and they're a loosey-goosey bunch. No core text, no weekly meetings, nothing to study, no central doctrine of belief, nothing that really binds them together as a cohesive unit, but an irrational rejection of God. Not much exposure is needed, just pick your favorite poison (mine is NOT Dawkins), and listen to a few videos.
Vocab Malone's main focus has been on the BHI's, and I've listened to one video from a specific sect, but I'm not interested in "knowing" what they believe, so I ignore them. Still, their growing militancy needs to be addressed, so I'm glad Vocab has been carrying that burden for the rest of us.
I had a Book of Mormon, but wasn't interested in that group either, so when the book was lost in a basement flood, I never bothered to replace it.
Islam grabbed my attention on 9/11, and I wanted to know everything about Muslims, and if that meant agonizing through some of Deedat's filth (I actually read his entire "Combat Kit Against Bible Thumpers", so I know when some daft Muslim is quoting from its filth), and the lunacy of Naik, the deceit of Ally, Bilal Philips, Sarsour, and many others. I did it without regret. I visited Muslim rooms in PalTalk, listened to them when they came to Arab Christian rooms, and learned something from each effort. I've seen dozens of links to Islamic sites disappear, and I think it's because the kufar were using the teachings as weapons against Islam. I expect more of my links to disappear, but at this point, it will be OK. I only need about 4% of what I know to refute Muslims; they have a very limited scope of criticisms, a single script, and it's dreadfully moldy. I couldn't learn that from any scholar, so it's something that needs to be waded through on our own. Fortunately, I never had to strive for the tenacity to do it, to 'git'er done', because when I read my first Quran, I was driven to find out how Islam can exist on such intellectual squalor. What makes Muslims "tick"? That's where two years in PalTalk was of greater benefit to me than reading all the websites, and all the Qurans, and all the auxiliary texts. All I had to do was log in, head to a few of its 5000+ rooms, sit back, and prepare to learn. I've earned my right to close their books, and take a parasitic approach with people like you. You do the studying and teaching; I'll be your audience. I 'spect I'll be hanging with you till the Lord calls me home. I want Muslims to hang out here, too! So dumb it down by about 50 IQ points! ;-)
Muslims aren't cultured to be deep thinkers.... HAHAHA
Let me remind you with 1 example here and (a long list for you to do your homework):
Without "AL-GORITHM" yes that's right... without it there will be no TH-cam, Laptops, Internet, Google etc. so who introduced the world to "AL-GORITHM"?
Without "AL-GEBRA" yes that's right... without it there will not be possible to do complex scientific calculations...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Compendious_Book_on_Calculation_by_Completion_and_Balancing
Al-Khwarizmi is regarded as "the father of algebra, A deep thinker Muslim
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world
and watch this : th-cam.com/video/rhM5lbVBgkk/w-d-xo.html
This has dismantled the scripture. Nailed it.
God gave you brain, use your brain.apply reason, apply your intelligence.
Are you familiar with Lydia McGrew’s responses to Michael Licona’s book? I can send you a link to it.
Not sure what you're implying here, I won't give you a popcorn worthy response. Several noted NT scholars concur with Licona's analysis, McKnight, Brock, Bauckham to name a few. While I can appreciate McGrew's work to some extent, ultimately I follow an axiom I embraced long ago- I get my Old Testament scholarship from Old Testament scholars, and I get my New Testament scholarship from New Testament scholars.
I'll check out the link
我喜欢耶稣InfinityTemplar Just go to her blog, that’s where she posts her ideas.
Can you /have you talked about the differences in the Gospel of John from the other gospels?
I haven't yet. Are you referring to timeline?
@@IslamCritiqued No, I'm referring to theological content. There is a theological theory that bothers me that is made in John that doesn't seem to be made in any of the other gospels (i'm not counting Mark, because of the "unreliable" part that includes it. The theory is that a human being can trump the divine redemptive work of God.....a man can nullify the biggest event in history, simply by not believing in it!. What power! (John 3:18) If belief in a theory (I consider "truth" to fall into two categories, empirical and theoretical. Almost all theology falling into the "theory" category, which in no way implies that it is not true, just not provable empirically) So if one does not believe an un-proveable theory then one is given the "justice" of eternal unending suffering, torture at the hands of a just God and his torturing angels. Tortured, I might add, in the way that ISIS burned that pilot alive, except over and over and over, not only for his own sin, but for not believing an unproveable theory of redemption. (One that I happen to believe). Personally , I don't like that theory, for a few reasons. It doesn't stand up to the "all matters of importance should be validated by 2 or 3 witnesses" from the OT. (Please forgive my limited grasp of scripture!) If this principle is a matter of import, and it would seem to be, then it should be reiterated by Jesus via the other gospel writers. The "witnesses", as it were. The second reason that I don't like it is that it seems to contradict the theory that Christ took all of my sins in his own body, before I was ever born, and totally paid the price for those sins, before I was ever born, and that God went to all that trouble, and Christ went through all that pain and punishment, and that I can nullify it as long as I just don't believe it. It seems to do a grave disservice to the work of the cross. I also don't like it because it doesn't seem just or loving. Eternal torture is the penalty for not believing a theory? (i understand the eternal punishment is for sin, but if you miss out on the redemption because of your unbelief, then you are really being punished for your unbelief. The 3rd reason I don't like it, is that perdition, eternal hell fire and torture, is the only thing (that I know of, correct me if I'm wrong) that "christianity" has in common with Islam. That makes it a pretty suspect theory in my humble opinion. We understand why Mohammed used the gruesome hellfire torture scenarios to motivate his followers. What worldly wisdom this man possessed. Wise as a serpent! Back to John...of course John has many other wonderfully mystical and esoteric sayings of Jesus , not found elsewhere, and those I love... water of life...etc, etc..beautiful soaring metaphors of spiritual life, but again, John stands alone in these things. So, if you've done any videos on the unusual nature of the gospel of John, I'd love to see it. If you can direct me to anyone teaching on this, I would be interested in that as well. If you feel differently about the non-belief in theory = eternal skin melting/frying, I would love to hear your views. Thank you so much for taking the time to do these excellent videos, they stretch and enlighten the intellect . More facts, more freedom. God bless!
I would also add that as a premise, I believe in the divine INSPIRATION of scripture. God breathed it , didn't speak it. And he inspires it. And it's profitable. I agree with Timothy on all that. I do not believe in the INFALLIBILITY of the Bible, as that is not even an idea that can be found in the bible. (correct me if I'm wrong). If this premise is wrong, I need to know it, but I haven't seen any argument for that idea that makes any sense, and I believe the idea of biblical inerrantcy is a "Low view" of scripture. Thanks for taking the time to read and respond. I appreciate it!
To try to condense your longer comment above, citing John 3.18, belief is tied to salvation elsewhere in the gospels, i.e. Luke 8, see esp v.12 for the close connection between belief and salvation.
If I have it right, in recoiling at Dante's "Inferno" concept of hell, you're wanting to tend toward a more universalistic approach, i.e. one's unbelief can't trump God's redemptive work? This would be clearly contradicted in numerous places in the gospels alone which require a believing loyalty to be saved, not surprisingly since this is right along the lines of the old testament.
Hell is a complex topic. I guess I would simply encourage you to distance yourself from "Dante" imagery, realize that much of the imagery in the biblical text appears to be "stock" language in contemporary jewish literature. At the same time, God's judgment is severe, as is the sin, and hell shouldn't be defined in such a way to suite apologetic purposes. But the reality is that there are multiple interpretations of hell/eternal, conscious punishment by scholars and theologians who hold an equally high view of scripture.
@@KingHuddaDudda Read the whole paragraph, it's more than just to believe, "This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil." (John3: 19). Like that, it's not enough to believe (demons believe too and they tremble), but to repent. They who don't believe in the light also keep walking in the dark, so they won't ever have the heart required for God to write His law on it. Remember that we are temples, and - to make a parallel between the Temple or rather the Tent of Meeting - our hearts are for everyone the Holy of Holies that have to have the Ark of Covenant inside, with the written commendments.
In Romans 2: 14-15 it say about gentiles that have a heart ready to receive the commendments, they may believe in Jesus even if they don't know Him, because they follow (unknowingly) the will of God. The same thing might apply (I believe) for those who hear the Gospel but don't believe it to be true, yet they do what is good in the eyes of God, not because they were told to by their own religion, but because their heart. So, I think it have to do with what path you walk, of the light (ben Abel) or dark (ben Cain).
Can I just say that though I'm an atheist I avidly follow your channel to gain knowledge to counter Muslims I see in the groups I'm in and the lies they spread.
I was raised a Christian and it annoys me the nonsense Muslims spread about the Bible and Christians to try and legitimise the Qur'an.
What religion were you specifically?
Hi the muslims are making out that the Pharaoh was a Muslim please consider a Show on the truth in this I need a laugh 😂after 2020
*grabs popcorn*
Not sure what you're implying here, I won't give you a popcorn worthy response. Several noted NT scholars concur with Licona's analysis, McKnight, Brock, Bauckham to name a few. While I can appreciate McGrew's work to some extent, ultimately I follow an axiom I embraced long ago- I get my Old Testament scholarship from Old Testament scholars, and I get my New Testament scholarship from New Testament scholars.
Islam Critiqued I said I was grabbing popcorn as I started the video. It was basically me saying that I was going to be interested in what you had to say in the video. It wasn’t to see “sparks fly” between you and Lydia McGrew.
Bryson Townsend ahhh ok. Well I hope your popcorn was good!
Islam Critiqued Haha thanks man. I didn’t intend to come off in a backhanded way or anything. I’m sorry for the confusion. God bless.
So let me get this,
are you saying that disciples added something in the Bible that didn’t happen just to bring attention of the readers to some point?????
Please brother let me know
I'm saying the writers used the literary techniques of their day. This should be no surprise to anyone.
question is How much were they allowed to add according to the literary style of that time?
cuz non believers then can say that if disciples added that information then they could’ve added other much more information ..
"How much were they allowed to add according to the literary style of that time?" This is simplistic. It's not as though they just added and subtracted freely. It's that they shaped their narratives according to the literary devices of their day.
ok now i understand. you’re videos are really helpful.
thanks .
Very welcome!
I do not understand English and I have to translate Google, do you know Arabic?
If you don't understand English then why are you watching the video?
I doubt he knows enough Arabic to have a worthwhile conversation/dialogue.
Thanks for comming. However, I think your attempts to talk are futile.
( 62 ) Indeed, this is the true narration. And there is no deity except Allah. And indeed, Allah is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.
( 63 ) But if they turn away, then indeed - Allah is Knowing of the corrupters.
( 64 ) Say, "O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you - that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah." But if they turn away, then say, "Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him]."
( 65 ) O People of the Scripture, why do you argue about Abraham while the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed until after him? Then will you not reason?
( 66 ) Here you are - those who have argued about that of which you have [some] knowledge, but why do you argue about that of which you have no knowledge? And Allah knows, while you know not.
( 67 ) Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists.
( 68 ) Indeed, the most worthy of Abraham among the people are those who followed him [in submission to Allah] and this prophet, and those who believe [in his message]. And Allah is the ally of the believers.
( 69 ) A faction of the people of the Scripture wish they could mislead you. But they do not mislead except themselves, and they perceive [it] not.
( 70 ) O People of the Scripture, why do you disbelieve in the verses of Allah while you witness [to their truth]?
Indeed, (62) Quran is just a plagiate of the Bible
(63) Allah is the greatest of deceivers
(64) Islam is spread through violence
(65) Quran merely copied Abraham from the Torah
(66) Allah knows, again, how to deceive best
(67) Abraham was not submitting, he was trusting, and not on Allah but in YHVH
(68) Abraham believed and it was accounted to him for righteousness
(69) the people of the Scripture won't do that, only false preachers who are actually not of the Scripture, but preach their own gospel - such as the gospel of richness.
(70) because we trully believe that Allah is the god of this world. Satan means deceiver, Allah is the best of all deceivers, I need no better argument to stay away from his false teachings
Where are numbers 1-61? i would have so much fun writting what i think about those too, after i read them?
Is working out a sin ?
Yes, if you workout and nothing actually worked out for you.
@@jungjunk1662 😂
I like your videos, but according to the gospel of Luke when Jesus does many things in the same day, I want to express myself from a Catholic thinking. We believe also that there’s a gift or miracles made by God thru Jesus or even men what we call bilocation, we believe that people Jesus was able to be at 2 different places at the same time, this is well know In the Catholic Church, there has been many cases of this type
Thanks for your comment! How would this address the time differences between that chapter and the beginning of Acts? Here, obviously I appeal to common literary motives in antiquity as a plausible explanation. I'm not sure how bilocation would explain the different times?
You’re right I’m sorry I think I misinterpreted the chapter, and yes it’s probably that all (the resurrection) was just resumed in a chapter, cause like John 21:25 says
“He did many things that if written, wouldn’t fit in all books of the world”
Thanks for the followup!
Just 5 gospel plus gospel Yahweh from US mean have 6 gospel this time...
Gospel mark not written by mark and so on.
yeah but the whole point is that the authors of the gospels quote the OT with reference and take the verse out of context to talk about Jesus , this is not quotations these are misquotation and the Jews are very pissed because of what the gospel writers and paul precisely did with the Jewish bible .
I see both Testaments as one coherent theological continuum. That's what I love about the Bible. Coherence.
@@IslamCritiqued Really?
How is Christianity Coherant with the Message of the prophets if you have a new concept of God and you dropped the laws of the prophets ..
The concept of God is precisely the same. And Jeremiah speaks of a new covenant.
@@IslamCritiqued Ok Jeremiah speaks of a new Covenant not a New concept of God .
you cant possibly come here and tell me that jeremiah or any other prophet Believed God is truine .
and you can't possibly tell me that your church fathers knew God better then the prophets themselves , i simply can't accept that .
@@revdznet "Ok Jeremiah speaks of a new Covenant not a New concept of God " Read what I said above: "The concept of God is precisely the same." Please watch this before continuing: th-cam.com/video/ObtYkLHu_CM/w-d-xo.html
Really funny is 1 + 1 + 1 = 1!
What can you criticize in Islam?
Islam is the true religion and the transcriber of all religions by him
Stop thinking like a child. The God of Christianity is not confined to preschool math. This is an absolutely ridiculous objection. Your "knowledge" of the Trinity is what you get from the Quran, which is a joke. If you want to critic the Trinity, do so by engaging with the content in these videos: th-cam.com/video/ObtYkLHu_CM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/KMTlbtbgp0s/w-d-xo.html
+Islam Critiqued
th-cam.com/video/XetUYvwFK9s/w-d-xo.html
@Svetka Aleshenka lol. I literally LOL!
Trinity is not1+1+1=1 ,but Infinity+Infinity+Infinity=Infinity
1*1*1=1
Is that better?
You are over powering a weak point without giving credit to important point gospels do the same. It was not even necessary to mention in bible, Jesus rode a donkey and four gospels' writers found strong point recording for coming generation. But when John recorded that a soldier comes and piers the body of Jesus with Lance, three other writers found useless to mention. By God's grace Muslims are care full to recognise the creeping bugs.
John was younger and in a time of youthful formation when he witnessed JESUS' ministry. We remember formative memories from childhood more clearly than others. Matthew was older and recounted memorable sayings and placed them into a framework for context.
Luke was writing more a narrative in which he highlighted sayings that illuminated the reasons for his deeds.
Mark wrote out accounts listening to Peter's sermons and had not yet finished placing them in chronological order. He did follow the general chronology but placed some details in a series so as to draw a straight line of thought on certain things he brought out from history.
John remembered long conversations from his youth and had read the earlier gospels which were only written (at least two of them) for readings in church. Luke was for learning history. John saw the need to fill in in writing things he didn't want forgotten after his passing in the mists of oral tradition.
The things you say are not important are fulfilled prophecies, like riding on three donkey.
John alone of those four stood by the cross and saw the spear detail with Mary. That's right, one of the Jews that saw JESUS crucified and killed was Mary HIS mother according to the flesh.
John foretold that Muhammad was the false prophet.
*Muhammad is in Hell, eternally drowning in an ocean of boiling pig shit.*