Also, for the people who's AI music is being deleted, I think mainly its because they are new artists and have no work pre-ai or prior to advanced ai, and so ones music talent and mixing skills cannot be that integral.
Im a producer and i have become familiar experimenting with AI Sound and video, and I will say this; for the most part, I can tell. This goes for both audio and video. Stable diffusion has artifacts that are recognisible.
@@xminusplus.I use plugins that use AI such as that Waves EQ they just gave away then fine tune, great as a tool as you say but people should at least be processing it like you would with a sample or remix
if there was a way to cancel all the 13yr old kids dumping AI creations on the internet that took them zero skills to upload to the streaming platforms that would be great, however, there are some of us that utilize AI aspects in their full human-made productions (like certain instruments or vocals). I still work very hard on my songs so it would be very difficult to draw the line between what constitutes AI Music.
During my research, I contacted Spotify and DistroKid directly about AI music uploads. Neither of them expressed any concerns, which aligns with my expectations. Why would big companies care as long as it’s real music created using AI and they’re profiting from it? I know I’m biased because I use AI as a tool in my creative process, but I believe terms like "AI Artists" and "Real Artists" are problematic and shouldn’t be used to create unnecessary divides. AI is a tool-just like any instrument or software-that can empower individuals to express themselves artistically. For many people, it opens doors to creativity that might have been inaccessible otherwise, whether due to lack of resources, training, or experience. Ultimately, what matters is the art itself and the emotional impact it has, not how it was made. Instead of dismissing AI-assisted creations, we should embrace the possibilities it offers and recognize that technology has always played a role in shaping art.
Yes & yes. I am giving genuine non-AI subscribe, because of your honesty & transparency - which I absolutely appreciate and which is very rare on YT nowadays. 5:04 is the most important question I was asking since beginning of AI production. I think MIDI and VST instruments were actually the first stage where you could say it was no longer "Human made music", so hypothetically you could argue about the topic for hours. People pretending to make Human Music with AI are just an inevitable evolution of the situation. Art is poorly defined, and so is the law. Both LLM & LMM progress is so fast that we as humans no longer have a chance to keep up with it. The market has always been saturated with poor quality Human Music, now it's saturated with poor quality first generation LMM music - I don't know, maybe nothing much will change in the end ? 😃
I use chatgpt a lot and I´m excited about the possibilities of AI, but my understanding is that most musicians make their money by touring because spotify don´t pay much. So I can´t see AI music "artist" making money.
Unless they sell it to films, games etc but that's easier said than done, my music is designed to be chilled to not danced to so would be better sold than toured upon but then it's midi so not that relevant to the topic apart from the sell not shows part
I would suggest really reasearching AI prompt engineering. 1. You're absolutely right that you can just input a prompt and generate AI music. However, there's a saying, " You get what you pay for." If you pay cheap, you get cheap. If you input a basic prompt to generate AI music, you're going to get a basic and cheesy lyrics and music. I'd bet that's why some AI music is being deleted. 2. As a true singer/songwriter and an Ai prompt engineer, student, an AI prompt engineer starting salary is 65k to as high as 180k per year. Because AI is getting so competitive, Ive seen AI Prompt Engineers being offered 250k - 300k per year! Before I began my schooling I had already master AI music prompting and it is a science. I've created countless songs that I've let industryy people listen to and their reactions was WTF! In fact, just 4 days ago I created an acapella version to a song I wrote called " Sayin' Goodbye". It's a new school, Pop/R&B, 4 part male harmony with a lead male singer. In the style off Boyz II Men " It's So hard To Say Goodbye" Both people I let hear the song said, " That could possiby go to number one" and one is in the industry and said she was definitely going to reach back out to me after talking to som people. AI prompt engineering is truly a science and not about inputting a few sentences but understanding how algorithms, and AI works, the processes needed for AI to function at full capacity and a keen understanding of meta tags. The difference between myself and a music producer is that they're touching buttoms to create music and i'm inputting detailed and skilled data to create the same music. It's too complexed to get into how my processes is done. Just thought that I would share my take.
@kellondaniel very good point. Personally, I wouldn't presume to distribute music that contains vocals just yet. And in most Suno outputs, I won't even allow myself to do that with instrumentals because they are obviously too generic. @@billyolsson3340 I disagree explicitly. Music needs to be defined first. For me personally it's mostly a mathematical concept with some percentage of so called Art - which if we try to define, we slip to very non-specific hypothetical conjectures. And then we need to define what level of use of AI/Technology is considered Human Work, and I don't think we can conclusively agree on that since the first synths/Midi/VST instruments came into game decades ago.
@@kellondaniel Clarification: I wouldn't distribute AI Music generated with AI vocals, but AI beat with human vocals - I see absolutely no problem with that.
I can definetly say what is suno voices of v3.5 Now with v4 they are getting better But I cannot definetly say that is AI music the one made with udio that has incredible high wua8voices and music
I appreciate that music if having ones own singing voice, ones own use of physically playing an instrument or ones own writing of their lyrics, that these elements require skills that are unique and difficult to perfect. However, although many artists employing all three elements mostly can only do at least one of these elements reasonably well. Very few musicians in the world of popular music would succeed if either they, a producer or record company had not been finding alternative ways to enhance the process of creating a hit song. With AI, although not yet considered credible, it is in fact doing exactly what has been going on for decades within the music industry. Being able to sing, write music, or playing an instrument does not necessarily put anybody above somebody that creates a music composition via a machine. Tell me, what exactly does a music studio contain? Every week, there is only one position to the top of a Best 100 playlist, with every week, like for decades there has been millions of songs produced that would never reach that number one spot. If you are a musician that has achieved that position then perhaps today you may have a little more competition. But, if you never achieved that, then frankly you are only as good as an audience may perceive you to be. I don't see if whether an AI created song that makes that top spot is not equally as deserving than a song made the old school way and heavily enhanced with professional studio tricks. If it's good and an audience likes it then that's all that really matters. After all, all music deserves the right to be listened to.
@@ZigZagProductionStudio they are not just taking down random AI artists but regular artists as well, and not explaining any of it to the people... They will hit you with a generic letter to excuse them from dealing with you after taking your money, and that's it. Now you can choose to go around and around and around with them but you will not get anywhere unless you hit them with suit.
Ai will be a thing going forward it is inevitable , the crack down is on ai accounts not pushing their product (wasting space for music lovers with passion that cant create)there is much more incentive to have more ai artist(more client memberships to distribute,more artist=less payout,eyc).If you still cant understand just think about when cars were introduced while wagons were the norm.many wagon owners would complain how car owners didn’t “work ‘for their travels and it could never replace a huge wagon..music is changing or ‘evolving’
@@Vashy69 still mising the point; from a distributor's perspecting, they make billions from artist that are marketable. They can't make that money (yet) from Ai because there is NO artist to market.
That is not going to happen. They don't care how it's done; they make money through distribution and subscriptions. More AI music = more producers = more money. As long as a track follows all the rules, it doesn't matter if it's AI or not. And remember that modern AI tracks are often much better than many trash tracks produced by so-called artists. At the end of the day, if you're enjoying the track, does it matter how it's done? For human interactions and connections, go and visit a live concert. Crafting and mixing a decent AI-generated song can take many hours and days. How can we deny all the human work that goes into it? Many people believe AI is one push of a button without human work. Dear, you'll only get trash with one push of a button.
@@FluffyPantsStudio yes. If one is taking the time to mix and master an ai track, even that is better than what's really happened; most of These Ai generated tracks aren't even mixed or mastered. That's the first flag. All I have to do is download it and look at it on a spectral. 🧐
@@FluffyPantsStudio but i will say, ai music has the potential to destroy plateform artist relationships, which in the long term could cost money. For example, millions of marketing dollars are spent so that the first face you see on Apple music or Spotify is "Taylor Swift" or "Sabrina Carpenter". What happens when there is no face to put to a charting song or album??
@@xminusplus. Music and money are inseparable, no money, no industry. Streaming services are thriving in an oversaturated market. What’s happening in music today mirrors the evolution of the gaming industry. Digital tools have made entertainment accessible to everyone, allowing people to create their own music without depending on artists. It’s a shift toward a world where creativity is truly democratized. Sure, this might be uncomfortable for some, but isn’t this the equality we’ve been striving for, a world where anyone with an idea can bring it to life?
I agree, and furthermore I don't think ANY of those distributors are willing to axe any artist's material. I mean, the more they can distribute, the more potential income they generate. What's the point in deleting artists?
@DigitalAura True, and Labels have most so much leverage over the last few years (thanks to platforms like TikTok) that they can't force distributors to do certain things anymore. Also the idea that SUNO could add a digital fingerprint to their music is risky because it might just scare people away from using the service. And I'm sure SUNO doesn't want that.
Interesting topic, but in your example with the guy got deleted from distrokid, do we really know the whole story behind? Maybe he has done something wich leads to deletion, for example he registered his music to a service like distrolock. In the past days I read many comments on music ai forums that songs from different AI artist got a copyright claim by distrokid, wich sounded too similar, but not exactly the same like the song wich was claimed. My guess here, maybe the guy who got deleted really registered his stuff to a service like this, wich caused problems with other AI music artists and so it was further investigated and got deleted.
Uffff very stupid! No matter how the Product was made, the result is important! The Consumption of Music. The Factor in this competition is not Moral or Humanity, it is the extrem fast flooding the Markets with AI Music.
AI music is not perfected yet, it still sounds AI-made. Best thing to do is to replicate the songs you like with real singers and music production if you plan on selling the song. It's a tool at the moment.
Personally I can't stand musicians that use Tuner gadgets to tune their instruments like some mindless robot. Clearly they don't sit the genuine ear for notes and therefore are among the worst. Handcrafted, tuned by ear and 100% unplugged otherwise it's not music. I'm curious to hear where you draw the line? =) Obviously I'm sarcastic because it's such a dumb statement and mindset. Like so many other things it's subjective both in production as well as genre/sounds. You don't got to like it, fine, others will though and that's life in a nutshell buddy. 🤦♂
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I think there needs to be a separate PLATFORM dedicated for AI releases and informing listeners that the music is AI.
Also, for the people who's AI music is being deleted, I think mainly its because they are new artists and have no work pre-ai or prior to advanced ai, and so ones music talent and mixing skills cannot be that integral.
Im a producer and i have become familiar experimenting with AI Sound and video, and I will say this; for the most part, I can tell. This goes for both audio and video. Stable diffusion has artifacts that are recognisible.
Great idea mate to be fair, it's annoying the way it is that's for sure.
@@xminusplus.I use plugins that use AI such as that Waves EQ they just gave away then fine tune, great as a tool as you say but people should at least be processing it like you would with a sample or remix
if there was a way to cancel all the 13yr old kids dumping AI creations on the internet that took them zero skills to upload to the streaming platforms that would be great, however, there are some of us that utilize AI aspects in their full human-made productions (like certain instruments or vocals). I still work very hard on my songs so it would be very difficult to draw the line between what constitutes AI Music.
During my research, I contacted Spotify and DistroKid directly about AI music uploads. Neither of them expressed any concerns, which aligns with my expectations. Why would big companies care as long as it’s real music created using AI and they’re profiting from it?
I know I’m biased because I use AI as a tool in my creative process, but I believe terms like "AI Artists" and "Real Artists" are problematic and shouldn’t be used to create unnecessary divides. AI is a tool-just like any instrument or software-that can empower individuals to express themselves artistically. For many people, it opens doors to creativity that might have been inaccessible otherwise, whether due to lack of resources, training, or experience.
Ultimately, what matters is the art itself and the emotional impact it has, not how it was made. Instead of dismissing AI-assisted creations, we should embrace the possibilities it offers and recognize that technology has always played a role in shaping art.
Yes & yes. I am giving genuine non-AI subscribe, because of your honesty & transparency - which I absolutely appreciate and which is very rare on YT nowadays.
5:04 is the most important question I was asking since beginning of AI production. I think MIDI and VST instruments were actually the first stage where you could say it was no longer "Human made music", so hypothetically you could argue about the topic for hours. People pretending to make Human Music with AI are just an inevitable evolution of the situation. Art is poorly defined, and so is the law. Both LLM & LMM progress is so fast that we as humans no longer have a chance to keep up with it. The market has always been saturated with poor quality Human Music, now it's saturated with poor quality first generation LMM music - I don't know, maybe nothing much will change in the end ? 😃
@@FreeContentLab 😂
I use chatgpt a lot and I´m excited about the possibilities of AI, but my understanding is that most musicians make their money by touring because spotify don´t pay much. So I can´t see AI music "artist" making money.
Unless they sell it to films, games etc but that's easier said than done, my music is designed to be chilled to not danced to so would be better sold than toured upon but then it's midi so not that relevant to the topic apart from the sell not shows part
@@Cult_of_the_Mantis midi is still human, rather you are programming it in piano roll, or playing it like. Midi is just the connection.
Good 👍it's annoying that a lot of the competition use just prompts lol, maybe give it a separate TH-cam/Spotify/etc AI section as others said
I would suggest really reasearching AI prompt engineering.
1. You're absolutely right that you can just input a prompt and generate AI music. However, there's a saying, " You get what you pay for." If you pay cheap, you get cheap. If you input a basic prompt to generate AI music, you're going to get a basic and cheesy lyrics and music. I'd bet that's why some AI music is being deleted.
2. As a true singer/songwriter and an Ai prompt engineer, student, an AI prompt engineer starting salary is 65k to as high as 180k per year. Because AI is getting so competitive, Ive seen AI Prompt Engineers being offered 250k - 300k per year!
Before I began my schooling I had already master AI music prompting and it is a science. I've created countless songs that I've let industryy people listen to and their reactions was WTF! In fact, just 4 days ago I created an acapella version to a song I wrote called " Sayin' Goodbye". It's a new school, Pop/R&B, 4 part male harmony with a lead male singer. In the style off Boyz II Men " It's So hard To Say Goodbye" Both people I let hear the song said, " That could possiby go to number one" and one is in the industry and said she was definitely going to reach back out to me after talking to som people.
AI prompt engineering is truly a science and not about inputting a few sentences but understanding how algorithms, and AI works, the processes needed for AI to function at full capacity and a keen understanding of meta tags.
The difference between myself and a music producer is that they're touching buttoms to create music and i'm inputting detailed and skilled data to create the same music. It's too complexed to get into how my processes is done. Just thought that I would share my take.
What about those who write their own lyrics and only use AI for the instrumentals?
Like poets who turn their poetry into music?
IF AI is used to create a song, it's still AI music.
@billyolsson3340 I know this. . . And agreed but it involves more human effort than having AI produce both the lyrics AND the instrumentals
@kellondaniel very good point. Personally, I wouldn't presume to distribute music that contains vocals just yet. And in most Suno outputs, I won't even allow myself to do that with instrumentals because they are obviously too generic.
@@billyolsson3340 I disagree explicitly. Music needs to be defined first. For me personally it's mostly a mathematical concept with some percentage of so called Art - which if we try to define, we slip to very non-specific hypothetical conjectures. And then we need to define what level of use of AI/Technology is considered Human Work, and I don't think we can conclusively agree on that since the first synths/Midi/VST instruments came into game decades ago.
@@kellondaniel Clarification: I wouldn't distribute AI Music generated with AI vocals, but AI beat with human vocals - I see absolutely no problem with that.
@FreeContentLab Kool kool. . . Sounds like a vibe. . . I like that idea
I can definetly say what is suno voices of v3.5
Now with v4 they are getting better
But I cannot definetly say that is AI music the one made with udio that has incredible high wua8voices and music
If I get ideas or chords or just recreate what came out from Suno, it would be very difficult to "mark".
I appreciate that music if having ones own singing voice, ones own use of physically playing an instrument or ones own writing of their lyrics, that these elements require skills that are unique and difficult to perfect. However, although many artists employing all three elements mostly can only do at least one of these elements reasonably well. Very few musicians in the world of popular music would succeed if either they, a producer or record company had not been finding alternative ways to enhance the process of creating a hit song. With AI, although not yet considered credible, it is in fact doing exactly what has been going on for decades within the music industry. Being able to sing, write music, or playing an instrument does not necessarily put anybody above somebody that creates a music composition via a machine. Tell me, what exactly does a music studio contain? Every week, there is only one position to the top of a Best 100 playlist, with every week, like for decades there has been millions of songs produced that would never reach that number one spot. If you are a musician that has achieved that position then perhaps today you may have a little more competition. But, if you never achieved that, then frankly you are only as good as an audience may perceive you to be. I don't see if whether an AI created song that makes that top spot is not equally as deserving than a song made the old school way and heavily enhanced with professional studio tricks. If it's good and an audience likes it then that's all that really matters. After all, all music deserves the right to be listened to.
No they're not. This is clickbait. DK has said they're cool with it. Spotify doesn't care, either. I hear it constantly with my New Release Radar.
personally I haven't seen any official statement from DistroKid that fully allows/greenlights AI music
@@ZigZagProductionStudio yeah it exist with DK, but is DK trash -Yeah
@@ZigZagProductionStudio they are not just taking down random AI artists but regular artists as well, and not explaining any of it to the people...
They will hit you with a generic letter to excuse them from dealing with you after taking your money, and that's it. Now you can choose to go around and around and around with them but you will not get anywhere unless you hit them with suit.
@@ZigZagProductionStudio Oh and to cover our ares here, even we though know first hand, all the above happens *Allegedly* .
Always something to think about.
Ai will be a thing going forward it is inevitable , the crack down is on ai accounts not pushing their product (wasting space for music lovers with passion that cant create)there is much more incentive to have more ai artist(more client memberships to distribute,more artist=less payout,eyc).If you still cant understand just think about when cars were introduced while wagons were the norm.many wagon owners would complain how car owners didn’t “work ‘for their travels and it could never replace a huge wagon..music is changing or ‘evolving’
@@Vashy69 still mising the point; from a distributor's perspecting, they make billions from artist that are marketable. They can't make that money (yet) from Ai because there is NO artist to market.
That is not going to happen. They don't care how it's done; they make money through distribution and subscriptions. More AI music = more producers = more money. As long as a track follows all the rules, it doesn't matter if it's AI or not. And remember that modern AI tracks are often much better than many trash tracks produced by so-called artists. At the end of the day, if you're enjoying the track, does it matter how it's done? For human interactions and connections, go and visit a live concert. Crafting and mixing a decent AI-generated song can take many hours and days. How can we deny all the human work that goes into it? Many people believe AI is one push of a button without human work. Dear, you'll only get trash with one push of a button.
@@FluffyPantsStudio yes. If one is taking the time to mix and master an ai track, even that is better than what's really happened; most of These Ai generated tracks aren't even mixed or mastered. That's the first flag. All I have to do is download it and look at it on a spectral. 🧐
@@FluffyPantsStudio but i will say, ai music has the potential to destroy plateform artist relationships, which in the long term could cost money. For example, millions of marketing dollars are spent so that the first face you see on Apple music or Spotify is "Taylor Swift" or "Sabrina Carpenter". What happens when there is no face to put to a charting song or album??
@@xminusplus. Music and money are inseparable, no money, no industry. Streaming services are thriving in an oversaturated market. What’s happening in music today mirrors the evolution of the gaming industry. Digital tools have made entertainment accessible to everyone, allowing people to create their own music without depending on artists. It’s a shift toward a world where creativity is truly democratized. Sure, this might be uncomfortable for some, but isn’t this the equality we’ve been striving for, a world where anyone with an idea can bring it to life?
There is no way distributors will keep up with what is AI music and what isn't
I agree, and furthermore I don't think ANY of those distributors are willing to axe any artist's material. I mean, the more they can distribute, the more potential income they generate. What's the point in deleting artists?
@DigitalAura True, and Labels have most so much leverage over the last few years (thanks to platforms like TikTok) that they can't force distributors to do certain things anymore. Also the idea that SUNO could add a digital fingerprint to their music is risky because it might just scare people away from using the service. And I'm sure SUNO doesn't want that.
@@DigitalAura well it seems they can tell right now. Obviously if Ai accounts are being removed.
Interesting topic, but in your example with the guy got deleted from distrokid, do we really know the whole story behind? Maybe he has done something wich leads to deletion, for example he registered his music to a service like distrolock. In the past days I read many comments on music ai forums that songs from different AI artist got a copyright claim by distrokid, wich sounded too similar, but not exactly the same like the song wich was claimed. My guess here, maybe the guy who got deleted really registered his stuff to a service like this, wich caused problems with other AI music artists and so it was further investigated and got deleted.
Bro no more “Beer in my boots”? 😭😭😭 can we atleast keep the ai country stuff
Uffff very stupid! No matter how the Product was made, the result is important! The Consumption of Music. The Factor in this competition is not Moral or Humanity, it is the extrem fast flooding the Markets with AI Music.
AI music is not perfected yet, it still sounds AI-made. Best thing to do is to replicate the songs you like with real singers and music production if you plan on selling the song. It's a tool at the moment.
Ai music isn't music lol it's artificial music trained on the backs of real artists should be heavily regulated
When will people love AI music?
Personally I can't stand musicians that use Tuner gadgets to tune their instruments like some mindless robot. Clearly they don't sit the genuine ear for notes and therefore are among the worst. Handcrafted, tuned by ear and 100% unplugged otherwise it's not music. I'm curious to hear where you draw the line? =)
Obviously I'm sarcastic because it's such a dumb statement and mindset. Like so many other things it's subjective both in production as well as genre/sounds. You don't got to like it, fine, others will though and that's life in a nutshell buddy.
🤦♂