The..BE$T way to unite the Ummah is By following the Quran & Hadith, but this can..0NLY be achieved if we $T0P following the teachings of those preachers & $ects Which are Contradicting the Quran..&..Hadith
It's always enlightening to listen to such a well read scholar like Dr Ally. His manner is so humble and the way he explains things are so well presented. We need more scholars like him. He is very right in saying that the "Hadith Narrative" has overtaken what is clearly written in Al-Quran 🙁
Hadith debate is probably the hottest topic in Islam today. Especially as people are more educated about what they say and can look them all up online. In the past the general Laymen just accepted them without questioning.
It's not a debate at all....1400 years of tradition, some fools in the 21st century won't change that, there have been Hadith rejectors in all times, no one remembers them and the authentic tradition of Hadith still prevails and always will.
People who are thinking that they shouldn't follow the hadeeth at all and bringing the prayer logic. First of all let me clarify the prayer thing, prayers were performed daily five times a day so people remembered it very well so there is no doubt about that, the doubts increases when it comes to how to act on certain situations. Second of all, the purpose of this series is to make people realize that it's not ok to follow hadeeths blindly, not to make you stop following hadeeths. May Allah bless you 💙
I used to listen to Dr Zakir saying against the bible telling the crowds that if there is one fabrication in the bible how much more could be there the entire bible. Maybe we should apply the same logic to the hadiths....just saying
Agree with you brother. The crux of the discussion is when Dr. Ally says that you should not believe blindly, Allah has given humans all the mental & physical faculties to think, ponder, research, and understand, and hence you can question it and you are also not supposed to trash it away instantly. The balance needs to be maintained. If one is not satisfied he must counsel people from different schools of thought until you are close to being satisfied. In the end, it alls sums up like this for me - it should not be seen as who said what but more as what was said. It will make sense and makes it easier to sift thru the infinite Hadeeths that we come across every day.
I wish more and more muslims learn and at least know about what the difference between sunnah of the prophet and hadiths i.e reports of that sunnah. Thank you Shaikh Dr Shabir Ally
@@centric145 That's the job of the scholars to provide people with clarity. Unfortunately very few do that. The collection of hadith and authentication was a rigorous project, done over decades during the time of Abbasids. It also coincides with the tumultuous political situation of post Prophet Arabia. Let me give you an example. Go watch Mufti Menk's video on Caliph Uthman. He says all the right things about Uthman, and in the end messes up. He says, Uthman was killed because some Jew conspired. The actual reality was much more complicated, and no Jew was involved. In fact, one of the killers of Uthman was the son of Abu Bakr, the first Caliph. How many scholars you know teach the correct history ? Mostly just avoid, or just omit key details. Can't expect that from a popular Shaikh as Menk. If regular Muslims don't have the idea of how it actually was during the times of Rashiduns, it's very hard to grasp how and when Hadith forgeries happened.
@@Truth_Seeker1 Yes workable Interpretation of the Koran without Hadis literature is just impossible. But it is a big problem that Hadis literature itself is highly doubted which causes questions to the authenticity of the interpretations also. SriRam.
My gripe as a Muslim is this: When the Quran Itself states that it is COMPLETE, FULLY DETAILED, NOTHING HAS BEEN OMITTED FROM THE BOOK. In addition: The Quran is THE BEST HADITH. " IN WHICH hadith after this will you believe. ( 77:50). "Woe to every fabricating imposter." ( The Quran warning of false hadith). Why then have Sunni Muslims come to place so much emphasis and blind acceptance of man-made hadith?? The Quran states clear cut that the task of the Messenger( Rasool) was to ONLY DELIVER THE MESSAGE. The Quran states that the task of Rasool was not even to explain the Quran! This task solely belonged to Allah. So why man-made hadith??
I wonder the same... I hope to have this discussion with my family at least so they can open their eyes, but in their eyes I’ve always been the deviant one.
@@fatimaxo4885 Once a person reads the Quran for themselves, they discover a great deal that appears different to what the majority of muslims are doing. The Quran even states, " Just because the majority are doing something, do not assume they are correct and start following them." Perhaps you have heard the story of the monkeys in the cage? Please look it up on Google. Sister Fatima, have the calm, peaceful talk with the family but if they are not convinced, then let it go, dont fight over it. You have been given Hidaya by Allah, there's will come, or perhaps not. JZK.
To the people arguing that the same sources that compiled the ahadith also compiled the Quran, please answer this, was the Quran revealed through a chain of narrations (like the hadith) or it’s only vessel was the prophet Muhammad saw? You see that is the difference between the two.
@Free Palestine 🇵🇸 I’m am not rejecting hadith but approaching many hadith with caution because the people that compiled the Quran were not writing here-say, which is what the hadith is, if you are comparing the Quran with hadith then that is your problem you can explain that to your creator yourself. If would be wise not to drag others down with your incapacity to distinguish between the two. Let’s not talk about desires many men will happily marry 2nd wives because it’s ‘sunnah’ but will avoid their Fardh of taking care of wife and children first.
@@specialagentorange4329 yes they will always do that it’s their one and only weapon actually. Since they don’t know how to think rationally they resort to name calling, deciding for you if you’re kaffir or not and even decide if you’re going to hell or heaven. I’ve been avoiding the tablighi jamaat for that very reason all they do is belittle and harass people but will never adhere to their own teachings on some matters.
Yes! Great video and discussion! He didn't drop the microphone because he is humble but I really wanted him to do it. Stop arguing who is right, just be good to one and other promote and spread peace and love.
Dr Shabir,and the Quran speak team,please,I beg you,expose all the fake hadiths that make us ,women,suffer a lot in this life mostly at the hands of husbands.
I have a lot of respect and a lot of grudge at the same time for thinking out of the box for Dr. Shabbir Ally. But anyways, we are not propehts, we are not sinless. May Allah have mercy on us all.
A good discourse on the complicated world of hadiths full of minefields. The Study Quran (2017) also gives a pretty good resume on pages xliii-xlv. It also goes further to introduce a new technical term 'Ahadith'. In certain cases it is bold and gives even its own commentaries. There is a special Appendix A incl a long bibliography of Hadith sources. I am so pleased to see that Dr Shabir Ally keeps us on the right track.
Even Sahih bokhari are not 100% sahih. God has never protected ahadiths, but quoran are protected. People use your minds. Why believe and worship another source than allah/ quran? So dangerous
@@tonyloan512 That's not how it works. Hadiths are a chain of multiple narrators over a couple of hundred years that relay what the original narrator allegedly heard the Prophet SAAWS say. The Quran was "created" less than 30 years after the Prophet SAAWS 's death by collecting all the verses that were remembered by the companions and other trustworthy Muslims, and then were cross examined and compiled in to what is known as the Quran. The people who were responsible for compiling and collecting would have been trustworthy because they were closest to the Prophet, and therefore would have heard the recitations of the Prophet and known which verses were authentic and therefore should be compiled. Is there room for scepticism in the compilation of the Quranic verses? Yes, however you would have to provide counter-evidence that the verses that were compiled at that time were not revelations of the Prophet SAAWS and that things were either left out or forgotten.
You cannot fully understand Quran without hadith. The protection of Quran comes with the protection of Hadith. May Allah bless the Sahaba for preserving the Quran and sunnah and the scholars who have separated sahih hadith from fabrications with the help of sanad. If u don't understand a matter better to keep quiet than to speak falsehood
@@tonyloan512it’s not true they didn’t wrote down Hadiths they only focused the Quran this idea that Hadiths were wrote down by the companions of the prophet is made up by Wahhabis who is modern movement
Quran 35v32: *Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen* : but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by Allah's leave, foremost in good deeds; *that is the highest Grace* Some are just gung-ho on hadith, and treat it like it is God's word. Not surprisingly, God then chooses those who will inherit the Quran, who will receive the great bounty.
@बद्री राम पासवान I do not understand your intention in engaging me in this conversation. As I said you are free to believe what you feel is right and we believe what we feel is right. I shall not agree with you nor I am forcing you to agree with me. You seek and satisfy yourself with whatever you feel the truth is. You can consider me a blind follower and I do not mind that. You go ahead with your eyes open.
Hadith is similar to Bible Written during Prophets life time and thereafter This makes is susceptible to human errors Hence Hadith need to be studied taking this in to consideration The authenticity of Hadith is questionable and let not Muslims equate with Al Quran
One Hadith I’m very skeptical of is the one that’s mentioning the ranking of Ali, Omar, Abu Bakr, Osman in terms of virtue.. it seems oddly convenient that the ranking correlates with the order of khulfa rashideen
People may dismiss this brother because of the lgbt thing and his Liberal outlook but hes right about this 😂 And the Oulama in Saudi even made many comments about Hadith and how it's being used to go against Quran in many cases in history and its still a problem today
If the scholars achieve to decode Quran 100% this would be a big gift from GOD. Quran is the word of ALLAH and nothing compares to it. If we want to unite the umah we have to reject Hadiths
Peace everybody The Quran is the only book Allah tells us to follow: This is the Scripture in which there is no doubt, a guide for the righteous - 2:2 Who has been granted permission to say otherwise and to follow any other books? Were they inspired? By whom? The devil? And the only book He will preserve: Indeed it is We who have sent down the Reminder, and indeed it is We who will preserve it - 15:9 Who can say the Quran was forged? Allah tell us to reflect on the Quran: Do they not reflect on the Quran If it was from any other than God they would have found it very different - 4:82 This ia a rhetorical question asking us to apply the acid test to other books (hadiths, bible...) and you will find therein many discrepancies. Have you not understand that Allah is urging us to THINK (we all have this ability) and stop being followers? Allah tells having completed the religion during the the prophet livelihood; therefore everything else is Bidaa (addition): Today I have perfected your system for you, and completed My blessings upon you, and I have accepted surrender as the system for you - 5:3 (part) Who can pretend having the permission to add anything to this religion (Allah forgives such thoughts)? And he warns us: And if you obey the majority of those on Earth they will lead you astray; that is because they follow conjecture, and that is because they only guess - 6:116 Can you deny that the majority is following hadiths rather than Glorious Quran? The collection of hadiths is the exact same procedures how other religion created their books. Let us not fall into the devil's trap and look up to the Quran as the last testament preserved by Allah if you are truthful and God fearing. Salaam
Allah told us to follow the messenger as well. How would you know how to pray, hajj, zakat etc without hadith. You can reject some but you can’t follow Quran only. This is apostasy.
@@greenbananas12378 Apostasy is your choice of words. I believe in the book of Allah who claim it is a complete one. If He chose to keep these details to the minimum, it is His religion and we have no choice in it. He told us to follow the prophet because he was obeying what Allah was ordering in the Quran. Know that if you choose to believe in something else, then only you will account for it. Peace.
Jazakallah Khair Dr. Shabir for sharing your profound knowledge with us. I feel enlightened and learn something new every time I watch your videos. May Allah grant you rewards for your service to the Ummah. I appreciate and support all the hard work of the entire team of Quran Speaks.
Considering that the Hadith are usually the main source of both morals and practices in Islam, it's ridiculous that such a huge part of the religion is based on such questionable sources, which were collected after many passing by regular people, and centuries after death of the prophet, instead of being included directly by the prophet in the Quran.
To the interested reader, here are some ayat which forbid me from going to hadith. Search the ayat yourself and see what conclusion you come away with. Warning to not follow any other hadith - 45:6, 31:6, 39:23, 6:114, 7:185, 77:50 Verses on other books - 68:35-36, 39:23 Explanation of all things - 16:89 Straightforward - 44:58, 54:17, 22, 32, 40, 38:28 Detailed and self-explained - 39:27, 12:111, 6:114 Sayings of the messenger as revelation - 69:40-43 Prophet follows not except what is revealed to him - 6:50, 46:9 Allah commands us and him to do the same - 6:155, 45:6, 7:3 Burden of explanation not on prophet but on Allah - 75:18-19 Prophets sole duty is to deliver the message - 5:67, 92, 99, 13:40, etc Prophets complaint on judgment day - 25:30
@@rationalbeing17 what is more pitiful is that you’re laughing in response to verses of the Quran, if someone had written hadith instead you would have been more respectful.. Shame on you...
Masya Allah. Allahu Akbar ..Dr Shabir is so eloquent & well knowledged. Jazakallahu Khoiron Dr. I pray that I'll be able to move to Canada someday and meeting you in person and join let the Quran speaks
JazakAllah khairan. At the end of the video Dr. Shabir said that there is a Hadees in Sunni Hadith collection abou the 12 imams, i would like to know more about that!
@@maxtyson9035 yes you are right . For angels bow down to Adam. Also Quran 46 31 mere mortal forgive some of your sins. O our people! Respond to Allah summer Summoner and believe in him. He will forgive you some of your sins and guard you from painful Doom. So any body can forgive sins for Muhammad was a mere mortal. Thank you If that sentence was talking about Allah he could forgive all your sins.
It is a great blessing of Allah upon humanity that once again, the tide of Qur'an-only followers is on the rise. Insha'Allah in a decade, more and more rejectors of hadith will come to the fore and insha'Allah the practice of following hadith for guidance will continue to diminish. Allah has made the religion easy for the people to follow and the hadith literature, which is not sanctioned by Allah, has made the religion impossible to follow. May Allah continue this tide and return us all to the pristine teachings of the Qur'an. Ameen
You're dellusional. This Ummah since the time of the sahaba has followed the Quran and the Sunnah, that will never change, you Hadith rejectors are a small tiny fringe group who are not taken seriously and never will be taken seriously.
@@mikk3150 salam Mik. I appreciate your message in response to my comment. I guess I have a few questions for us to consider if you are willing to engage. Please let me know if you are willing so we can proceed. Jzk kher Salam
@@mikk3150 glad to hear it. We can. Begin with some preliminary questions to understand what your starting point is. 1. What is the status of sahih bukhari for you? - is it the 2nd most authentic book after the Qur'an, as scholars say? - do you accept ALL the ahadeeth contained in the bukhari collection or do you pick & choose? - what is your criteria for picking and choosing, if you do not accept all of them? - do you consider the bukhari collection to be revelation like the Qur'an or do you not consider it to be revelation? Let us insha'Allah begin with these questions and then we can proceed better Jzk kher for taking time out of your day to engage in this important discussion :) I look forward to your replies Salam
@@shanedivix9306 Sahih Bukhari is the most authentic book of hadith, all hadith in it are authentic, we do not pick and choose. Bukhari is not revelation like the Quran, but it does contain revelation through the Prophet sallahu alayhi wassalam in his speech, his actions and what he permitted and forbade by the permission of Allah. The Quran explicitly makes it clear Obey ALLAH, OBEY the messenger numerous times, as well as many instances of it being referenced in the Quran of the Prophet revceiving revelation that isn't actually in the Quran, like the original Qibla, the fact that angels were being sent to assist at Badr, Allah exposing the plot of two of his wives, the prohibition of the munafiqeen being able to join an expedition, and detailed instructions on how to perform salah, do Hajj and other matters.
Dear Sir Shabir, I been following ur videos for many years thank you so much! I learnt a lot from u. Could you please make a video about the dirham which is mentioned in quran? Many non-believers use that to say that it was the coin and that at that time no coins existed. However arabs say they use it for any currency, doesnt have to be coins especially. The last one makes sense for me. I wonder what exactly that dirham was? Im sure it will help me and many others who are being confronted by such questions time to time.
I heard that the prophet (saw) said: " من كتب عني شيءا غير القرءان فليمحه And after his death, Abibakar told the companions not to write anything other than except axadith Qudsi. At the Omar khalifah, he collected all Xadith written and burned them. All the Axadith were written at the Abasiin era. If that is true, why to talk about them now? If that
@@Trust-me-I-am-a-dentist I’m trying to help you with proper context so that you will not falsely accused someone else based upon your cultural or religious taboos. You don’t have to associate things outside of your culture, religion, or understanding as something that the devil owns. You give the devil too much power and credit. Example, some Christians associate pitchforks and the color red with satan so they avoid wearing red and using pitchforks for yard work. It’s superstitious. It’s ok to be wrong. Fun fact: The hand sign has many meanings. It old Italian it means to ward off evil.
Brother Shabir, Allah says in the Quran that the Quran is complete and surah 77 v 50 (Al Mursalat) says: Then in what statement after the Qur'an will they believe? (50). The Hadith makes statement. How do we reconcile this.
@@sayfrunner Why do you refer to what your forefathers said. Allah says in the Quran many times to use our reasons. The Quran explains everything about salaat, wudu, bathing etc if only you knew about the teachings of the Quran.. If that is not the case, then the Quran is not complete and there are things missing but Allah confirms in the Quran that the Quran is complete and Allah forbids us to say a lie about Him.
@@sayfrunner It looks like you do not know the Quran. So go and do your research instead of listening to other people. Use your brain and not the brain of others. The blind is leading the blind. No point discussing with you if you do not know the Quran
I am Najib, an Indonesian, it's great talk... telling the transmission of hadiths until their preservation within great books of Sunni hadiths. It is great recordings of the sayings or actions of the prophet. I have questions: (1) How about Shia recordings that prefer transmissions through ahlul bait (family and descendants of the prophet) that came also to be preserved in the great books of Shia hadiths. Can you make a talk comparing these two traditions. (2) While we have abundance of narratives about Muhammad PBUH as recorded by Sunnis and Shias, even with their sanad (chains of narrators) and evaluation, I can't see this sanad exist in the four gospels recounting Jesus PBUH. It is only matn (the texts) that are exist. Can you say something about it?
None of the gospel authors actually authored their gospels for sure from what I've read. other people wrote them down after their deaths. So there had to be a chain of narrators, it's just not overtly stated. Ofc the gospels are derivative to an unknown degree of the injeel. Even the Christian scholars belief there is a "q source" which the gospels reference.
I would even think many times buying a second hand car. How much believing to hadiths base on hearsay. A collection of sayings of many people which collected 200 years after the prophet. Strange and suspicious....
You see hadith to Muslim equivalent to Christian ✝️Bible. The difference is we can trace do falsification test on Hadith . With Bible since we don't have original manuscript it hard to tell which true story or which is added later on. Quran is never changed 1400 . Revealed over 23 of life time of the prophet pbuh. We claim Quran is word of Allah. He preserve it to all mankind until day of judgment. Torah and gospel is revealed only to tribe of Isreal not to all mankind. That is why Allah didn't preserve it.
@@fathimahmmed5293 But Muslims also do not have the original manuscripts of the Quran or the Hadiths. Btw, the codices of Ibn Masud, and Ubay Ibn Ka’b differ from the Uthmanic codex. So which codex faithfully preserved the Quranic revelation? Before you answer, note that Mohammed is reported to have said in Bukhari “Take (learn) the Quran from four: Abdullah bin Masud, Salim, Mu’adh, and Ubai bin Ka’b”. If you claim that the Uthmanic codex should be preferred over all other codices, how do we know that the various canonical readings of the Quran we have today do not diverge from Uthman’s Quran which we do not have? And how do they compare to Hafsa’s Quran, which predates Uthman’s? Now Muslims want us to take their word when they tell us that the Quran has been preserved word for word and tashkil for tashkil. They claim that the Quran was mass transmitted (mutawatir) and so its preservation cannot be questioned. But even the claim that the Quran is tawatir is disputed by some Muslim scholars. What needs to be shown is not whether the Uthmanic codex has been preserved, rather it needs to be shown that every Quranic revelation that Mohammed received has been preserved (i.e. nothing was missed in Hafsa’s and Uthman’s Quran). How can that be done when the Quran was not compiled during Mohammed’s time, and that many who had memorized the Quran died in battle of Yamama? How can you prove this without presupposing that Islam is true? We do not have the original Quranic materials written by Mohammed’s scribes to compare because sadly, Uthman burnt early Quranic materials (fragmentary manuscripts and whole copies). This is all to point out that in the best case scenario, Muslims can only be confident that the Uthmanic codex was preserved and then hope that his standardization of the Quran faithfully preserved all Quranic revelations. To maintain their position, they will have to disregard reports of differences with the other codices of Masud and Ka’b. They will have to ignore the Sanaa manuscript, forgo textual criticism, and deny every Hadith that questions “The Standard Narrative”. And in the meantime, they attack the Bible. Muslims should listen to what Ibn Umar said: “Let none of you say, ‘I have learned the whole of the Quran’, for how does he know what the whole of it is, when much of it has disappeared? Let him say, ‘I have learned what is extant thereof.’” Your salvation is of utmost importance for you not to look into these things.
@@tictac7359 please show the difference with evidence? I am guessing you are Arabic language scholar?!! 😉 I'm sure go back look Dr Ali's videos the preservation of Quran may give you some education.
@@fathimahmmed5293 Muslim scholars are the ones pointing out these differences. I am only sharing the information that is found in Islamic sources. Don’t expect your sheik to tell you this information. They don’t want you to have doubts. But you have to do your own research and ask them questions. Here is a good place to start. The famous Quran translator, Yusuf Ali, mentions that there is an additional clause in Surah 33:6 in the codex of Ubayy ibn Ka’b. This clause “and he is a father of them”, is not found in today’s Quran. Why is that, when Mohammed said Muslims were to learn the Quran from Ubayy ibn Ka’b? Do not just accept why Dr Ally says in his videos. Investigate his claims because he will not answer for you. You will have to answer for yourself just as everyone else.
I feel the need to mention that the decision to make Abu Bakr caliph was made without Ali even being present. Ali was not even able to make a case for himself because the meeting was called without him.
The hadiths tend to depict Muhammad just like the Caliph of the time they were written at. If the Caliph liked to marry children, then Muhammad had to marry Aisha at 9 years old. If the Caliph liked to stone people then the hadith would say Muhammad ordered the stoning of so and so (even if it's nowhere to be found in the Qur'an as a ruling).
@@kanizfatima1377 They say in false hadiths attributed to Aisha that there used to be a Qur'an verse about stoning, but a hungry goat ate it because it was written in a leaf. So goats abrogate Qur'an verses according to the so called "Salafists".
Bukhari talked to X1, and x1 said he heard from x2 who heard from x3,..., who heard from x8, who heard from Prophet Mohammed. All claimed narrators x2,..,x8 already dead, how do you check their memories or reliability or their morals? At the end of the day all claimed narration is coming from the words of x1...This whole chain of narrations and authenticating is the craziest thing about Islam. Even if all claimed narrators were to be alive you still can't assess their reliability or memory.
Although I don't wear skull cap on regular basis but Dr Shabir Ally was..but the skull cap disappeared from Dr Shabir Ali in this video?? It's not very important question but it simply clicked my mind so I asked...
In 21st Century the KNOWLEDGE OF 7TH CENTURY was progression of knowledge but today in the time of Science and technology these ideas should be seen in te historic perspective otherwise it looks very stale if not IDEIOTIC
Our beloved prophet sallallahu alaiyhi wasalaam appointed maula Ali alaiyhi salaam his successor when he called his families to give first dawah of Islam then on 18th zil hajj our beloved prophet sallallahu alaiyhi wasalaam announced maula Ali alaiyhi salaam his successor at Ghadeer e khum
Its true he is honest here but maybe just beause he is in the americas would have been a different thing if he lives in an Islamic countries... could be playing a good cop and a bad cop 👮♂️ 🤔
Assalamoallikom brother Dr. Shabbir Ally. I am pure born and raised proud Shiaite from Iran. I am deeply surprised that prophet Mohamad PUH whom his family starting from Ali and Fatemah whom were treated in a very disgraceful manner that Fatemah died shortly after her father's death and Ali was associated on occasion of prayer in a mosque and after him Hassan was poisoned, Hussain was grousomely decapitated and so with all the descended of rassoullah all the way to 11th Imam. Now I am surprised that prophet founded the ultimate and righteous Islam but his blood family were treated that way and after all power politics between the Omar Ossman and Aboobakkar who made themselves the leaders of Islam. In all your discussions I have never seen or heard that you mention about Nahjollballaghah and also as we have told by our scholars that at the time war of Khaibar prophet raised the hand Ali and told " من کنت مولاه وعلی مولاه" Anyway I would appreciate if you elaborate on this please
If Ayesha critically evaluated the text's substance, she was in a position to do so since she lived with the prophet. However, for people who lived generations after the prophet, how could they analyze the text's substance ? They did not have the capacity to evaluate the text substance ie. If the the chain of narrators were sound, the text substance woukd likely be also sound because those narrators had more authority that the one who were evaluating the text.
No one has ever claimed that the hadiths were perfectly preserved as they were compiled centuries after the death of the Prophet (SAW) and all directly connected to him. That distinction only belongs to Quran.
the quran is perfectly persevered not hadiths u dumb@ss😂😂 this scholar is talking about HADITHS. Hadiths are man made, the quran is 100% from God thats why its persevered even historians agree. Whats the point of watching this video if u dont know the difference between quran and hadith😂 did u even understand anything this scholar said??
Hadith authentic. Or fabricated v/s Ahlulbait Imam ,question is who should we follow, for me it is the ahlulbait, family of Rasullalah, and descendant of Imam Ali r.a.
Q from a Shi’a on that last part. You said that the 12 Imams (leaders) hadith is likely a fabrication, but could it not be that Rasulullah did in fact allude to 12 leaders but the Sunnis analyse it the content through their theological perspective and rejects it based on their established world view. In other words, could Sunni biased towards the hadith be the cause of them rejecting it out of hand, particularly when they are not so dismissive of other ahadith in the Sahihatu Sitta? It does not seem far fetched that a Prophet (one capable of prophesy) would predict the emergence of these leaders does it?
The truth must be spoken but presenting a narrative like this casts doubt on all Hadiths. It will confuse people and then each one uses or discards texts according to his/her whim. So here we go.
Islam can exist without hadeeth. Islam is Qur'an, Qur'an is Islam. However, hadeeth that do not contradict the Qur'an or other hadeeth can be taken into consideration. Hadeeth is a supplement, not the foundation. Our book is one. Not six. Qur'an cannot stress enough about that.
@@Chakswari101 Hajj: "And complete the ḥajj and ʿumrah for Allah. But if you are prevented, then [offer] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And do not shave your heads until the sacrificial animal has reached its place of slaughter. And whoever among you is ill or has an ailment of the head [making shaving necessary must offer] a ransom of fasting [three days] or charity1 or sacrifice.2 And when you are secure,3 then whoever performs ʿumrah [during the ḥajj months]4 followed by ḥajj [offers] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And whoever cannot find [or afford such an animal] - then a fast of three days during ḥajj and of seven when you have returned [home]. Those are ten complete [days]. This is for those whose family is not in the area of al-Masjid al-Ḥarām. And fear Allah and know that Allah is severe in penalty." (Surah Al-Baqarah 196) -Tawaf: "And [mention, O Muḥammad], when We designated for Abraham the site of the House, [saying], "Do not associate anything with Me and purify My House for those who perform ṭawāf1 and those who stand [in prayer] and those who bow and prostrate." (Surah Al-Hajj 26) "Then let them end their untidiness and fulfill their vows and perform ṭawāf around the ancient House." (Surah Al-Hajj 29) "And [mention] when We made the House [i.e., the Kaʿbah] a place of return for the people and [a place of] security. And take, [O believers], from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], "Purify My House for those who perform ṭawāf1 and those who are staying [there] for worship and those who bow and prostrate [in prayer]." (Surah Al-Baqarah 1259) -Pausing in Arafah/Vakfe: "And proclaim to the people the ḥajj [pilgrimage]; they will come to you on foot and on every lean camel; they will come from every distant pass -" ( Surah Al-Hajj 27) "That they may witness [i.e., attend] benefits for themselves and mention the name of Allah on known [i.e., specific] days over what He has provided for them of [sacrificial] animals.1 So eat of them and feed the miserable and poor." (Surah Al- Hajj 28) -Sa'yy: "Indeed, aṣ-Ṣafā and al-Marwah are among the symbols1 of Allah. So whoever makes ḥajj [pilgrimage] to the House or performs ʿumrah - there is no blame upon him for walking between them.2 And whoever volunteers good - then indeed, Allah is Appreciative3 and Knowing." (Surah Al-Baqarah 158) Wudhu: "O you who have believed, when you rise to [perform] prayer, wash your faces and your forearms to the elbows and wipe over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you are in a state of janabah, then purify yourselves. But if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women and do not find water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and hands with it. Allah does not intend to make difficulty for you, but He intends to purify you and complete His favor upon you that you may be grateful." (Surah Al-Ma'idah 6) Salah: There are many ayahs which we can understand how salah/ritual prayer is observed. They detail that salah is made by reciting Qur'an and dua, bowing, prostrating (sajdah), staying up, etc. "[Such believers are] the repentant, the worshippers, the praisers [of Allah], the travelers [for His cause], those who bow and prostrate [in prayer], those who enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong, and those who observe the limits [set by] Allah. And give good tidings to the believers." (Surah At-Tawvah 9:112) "Only those believe in Our verses who, when they are reminded by them, fall down in prostration and exalt [Allah] with praise of their Lord, and they are not arrogant." (Surah As-Sajdah 15) - Salah times: "And establish prayer at the two ends of the day and at the approach of the night. Indeed, good deeds do away with misdeeds. That is a reminder for those who remember." (Surah Hud 114) "Establish prayer at the decline of the sun [from its meridian] until the darkness of the night1 and [also] the Qur’ān [i.e., recitation] of dawn.2 Indeed, the recitation of dawn is ever witnessed." (Surah Al-Isra 78) "And from [part of] the night, pray1 with it [i.e., recitation of the Qur’ān] as additional [worship] for you; it is expected that2 your Lord will resurrect you to a praised station." (Surah Al-Isra 79) "So be patient over what they say and exalt [Allah] with praise of your Lord before the rising of the sun and before its setting; and during periods of the night [exalt Him] and at the ends of the day, that you may be satisfied." (Surah Ta'ha 130)
@@unsuzherif2337 thanks for copying and pasting the general orders to do certain acts of worship, now I ask you the same question, can you explain how to make hajj, Wudu and Salah from Qur'an, what you have copy pasted are general orders not details.
All of the hadith is forged 69:43-47 and all you need is the Quran. The Quran is the only hadith 77:50, 7:85. The prophet used only the Quran to preach 17:46, 7:2-3.
@@Yameen200 so you’re a judeo-Muslim that abandoned the Quran and that follows the fake stories that the Jews provides as Sahih hadiths, same as the judeo- Christians that follows their nafs through the Bible and abandoned the Taurat and Injeel.
You factually correct, when he was alive there were no Hadith written down. So technically it's fact. The key point is, did Mohammad ever tell people to write down what he said about Islam and rules outside of the Quran.
@@Yameen200 let me give you some advice. Ask Allah for guidance and beg him to let you understand the Quran. That’s the only way to be a Muslim because if you are in any sect or school of thought you’re a mushirk. As Allah says in 30:31 - Turning to Him and fear Him and establish salat and do not be from the mushirkina of those who divide their religion and become sects, each party in what they have rejoicing.
As a second reliable source of Islam, Hadith has many types in Islam. These types are: 1. Hadith Sahih: It is the Genuine Hadith that has no weakness in its Isnad (chain of transmission), or in its Matn (text).The Genuine Hadith also has no contradiction of any kind of the established beliefs of Islam. We can say that “Hadith Sahih” is a name that was given to a “Faultless Hadith. 2. Hadith Hasan: It is also called fair Hadith; as it is similar to genuine Hadith.The difference between Hadith Sahih and Hadith Hasan is that the Narratorr of the second type has defective memory compared to those of the first type. 3. Hadith Dhaif: This is the third type of types of Hadith in Islam, in which one or more of the Narrators are considered unreliable. In this type of Hadith, some serious doubts can be raised. 4. Forged Hadith: Is the last type, and it is totally forged Hadith. Forged Hadith is also called (Maudu). (Maudu Hadith) also called “Fabricated” Hadith having wording opposite to the confirming Prophetic (PBUH) traditions.
@@Sceince01 one that comes to mind is the poisoning of the prophet saw, if god protects the prophet how can some womans poison have killed him? Why was the angel so late to warn him? Its a clear contridiction yet its sahih al bukhari
Shabbir Ali is a perfect in all his narration he speaks truth that capivates one's mind vry wonderful indeed it is apt answers to haters so cooly and calmnly explaining the position of hadees unlike other haters who shouts mocks laughs screams as they have god in their pocket
Shia sects emerged from khawarij not during the time of first Caliphate, but later around the time of Fitna. Excellent discussion with the Sheikh moderated by sister. Thoughtful and respectful as always. May Allah reward you for your efforts
Q: 31v6 وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يَشْتَرِي لَهْوَ الْحَدِيثِ* لِيُضِلَّ عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَيَتَّخِذَهَا هُزُوًا ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ مُّهِينٌ And of the people is he who buys the idle / frivolous tales (lahw al-hadith) to mislead [others] from the way of God without knowledge and who takes it in ridicule. Those will have a humiliating punishment. Quran used the word "hadith" in the verse*. Many skeptics assumed hadith is endorsed by the Prophet himself, or it is the word of God. The Quran says the transgressors misguide their own selves. They believe in false evidence to secure their own belief and God will throw them rope in their trespasses. Q:2v15 Allah will throw back their mockery on them, and give them rope in their trespasses; so they will wander like blind ones (To and fro) Q:39:36...for such as Allah leaves to stray, there can be no guide Q:8v30 They plan, and Allah plans. Surely, Allah is the Best of planners There are obviously good reasons why Hadith was allowed to come into existence
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The..BE$T way to unite the Ummah is By following the Quran & Hadith, but this can..0NLY be achieved if we $T0P following the teachings of those preachers & $ects Which are Contradicting the Quran..&..Hadith
How dr shabir Ali would come join Efdawah and dawah wise live steam.
Dr Shabir Ali which sect is right ???
@@watch13famouspeoplewhoacce45 heretic sect
@@thetruthwithproof8802 what about those hadiths which contradict the Qur'an?
Shabir is probably the most genuine scholar I’ve ever seen
He certainly is among the best. Add Dr Bilal Phillips, Dr Israr Ahmed (may Allah SWT have mercy on him)
100 percent
@@nazirdin4959 couldn't have said it better myself!!!
@@nazirdin4959israr was not a scholar.
I disagree. He has some genuineness. However, at times he does not always give all of the facts, and mistranslate some things.
This is an extremely important talk.
Thanks for putting this video here.
It's always enlightening to listen to such a well read scholar like Dr Ally. His manner is so humble and the way he explains things are so well presented. We need more scholars like him. He is very right in saying that the "Hadith Narrative" has overtaken what is clearly written in Al-Quran 🙁
Hadith debate is probably the hottest topic in Islam today. Especially as people are more educated about what they say and can look them all up online. In the past the general Laymen just accepted them without questioning.
It's not a debate at all....1400 years of tradition, some fools in the 21st century won't change that, there have been Hadith rejectors in all times, no one remembers them and the authentic tradition of Hadith still prevails and always will.
@@Chakswari101 You seriously think Muslims are meant to follow 4,000 "authentic" hadiths? That's almost the size of the Quran.
@Aqeel mahmood That's even more insane. How is anyone meant to follow that
People who are thinking that they shouldn't follow the hadeeth at all and bringing the prayer logic. First of all let me clarify the prayer thing, prayers were performed daily five times a day so people remembered it very well so there is no doubt about that, the doubts increases when it comes to how to act on certain situations. Second of all, the purpose of this series is to make people realize that it's not ok to follow hadeeths blindly, not to make you stop following hadeeths. May Allah bless you 💙
Exactly it was not like people did not know how to pray until Hadiths came along. There’s was an established practice and living tradition.
I used to listen to Dr Zakir saying against the bible telling the crowds that if there is one fabrication in the bible how much more could be there the entire bible. Maybe we should apply the same logic to the hadiths....just saying
Agree with you brother.
The crux of the discussion is when Dr. Ally says that you should not believe blindly, Allah has given humans all the mental & physical faculties to think, ponder, research, and understand, and hence you can question it and you are also not supposed to trash it away instantly. The balance needs to be maintained. If one is not satisfied he must counsel people from different schools of thought until you are close to being satisfied. In the end, it alls sums up like this for me - it should not be seen as who said what but more as what was said. It will make sense and makes it easier to sift thru the infinite Hadeeths that we come across every day.
@ayadollar khomaini whats ur whole point?
@ayadollar khomaini common argument. Who is the scholar you follow? May I know?
I wish more and more muslims learn and at least know about what the difference between sunnah of the prophet and hadiths i.e reports of that sunnah. Thank you Shaikh Dr Shabir Ally
I have no idea how to differentiate .
@@centric145 That's the job of the scholars to provide people with clarity. Unfortunately very few do that. The collection of hadith and authentication was a rigorous project, done over decades during the time of Abbasids. It also coincides with the tumultuous political situation of post Prophet Arabia. Let me give you an example. Go watch Mufti Menk's video on Caliph Uthman. He says all the right things about Uthman, and in the end messes up. He says, Uthman was killed because some Jew conspired. The actual reality was much more complicated, and no Jew was involved. In fact, one of the killers of Uthman was the son of Abu Bakr, the first Caliph. How many scholars you know teach the correct history ? Mostly just avoid, or just omit key details. Can't expect that from a popular Shaikh as Menk. If regular Muslims don't have the idea of how it actually was during the times of Rashiduns, it's very hard to grasp how and when Hadith forgeries happened.
It is had to fathom that millions of people believe in a religion that has so many holes in its narratives.
@@byip2415Actually no there’s no holes. There here are authentic Hadith’s and un authentic Hadith’s.
@@Truth_Seeker1 Yes workable Interpretation of the Koran without Hadis literature is just impossible.
But it is a big problem that Hadis literature itself is highly doubted which causes questions to the authenticity of the interpretations also.
SriRam.
My gripe as a Muslim is this: When the Quran Itself states that it is COMPLETE, FULLY DETAILED, NOTHING HAS BEEN OMITTED FROM THE BOOK.
In addition: The Quran is THE BEST HADITH.
" IN WHICH hadith after this will you believe. ( 77:50).
"Woe to every fabricating imposter." ( The Quran warning of false hadith).
Why then have Sunni Muslims come to place so much emphasis and blind acceptance of man-made hadith??
The Quran states clear cut that the task of the Messenger( Rasool) was to ONLY DELIVER THE MESSAGE.
The Quran states that the task of Rasool was not even to explain the Quran! This task solely belonged to Allah. So why man-made hadith??
I wonder the same... I hope to have this discussion with my family at least so they can open their eyes, but in their eyes I’ve always been the deviant one.
@@fatimaxo4885
Once a person reads the Quran for themselves, they discover a great deal that appears different to what the majority of muslims are doing. The Quran even states, " Just because the majority are doing something, do not assume they are correct and start following them."
Perhaps you have heard the story of the monkeys in the cage? Please look it up on Google.
Sister Fatima, have the calm, peaceful talk with the family but if they are not convinced, then let it go, dont fight over it.
You have been given Hidaya by Allah, there's will come, or perhaps not.
JZK.
Allah uses the word "Hadith" as a warning to Muslims. We can not put Hadiths above the Quran.
@@fatimaxo4885 dont do that, they will call you kafir, telling you by my experience, my family hates me now coz i said quran is complete
@@daevavasilisa1100 Don't worry brother/sister! May Allah deliver you from Iblees and Shayateen!
God protect you and your family Dr. Shabir
Keep saying the truth. In Gods eyes you are a Gem❤
This web-cast topic was VERY informative. Thank you and may Allah reward you both.
To the people arguing that the same sources that compiled the ahadith also compiled the Quran, please answer this, was the Quran revealed through a chain of narrations (like the hadith) or it’s only vessel was the prophet Muhammad saw? You see that is the difference between the two.
Exactly. Qur'anic "chain or narration," is more credible: God to Jibr'il, Jibr'il to Prophet Muhammad, Prophet Muhammad to us. That simple.
@Free Palestine 🇵🇸 I’m am not rejecting hadith but approaching many hadith with caution because the people that compiled the Quran were not writing here-say, which is what the hadith is, if you are comparing the Quran with hadith then that is your problem you can explain that to your creator yourself. If would be wise not to drag others down with your incapacity to distinguish between the two. Let’s not talk about desires many men will happily marry 2nd wives because it’s ‘sunnah’ but will avoid their Fardh of taking care of wife and children first.
I try to tell people Im cautious of the hadiths and they automatically put words into my mouth
@@fatimaxo4885 may I ask a question which scholar do u follow?
@@specialagentorange4329 yes they will always do that it’s their one and only weapon actually. Since they don’t know how to think rationally they resort to name calling, deciding for you if you’re kaffir or not and even decide if you’re going to hell or heaven. I’ve been avoiding the tablighi jamaat for that very reason all they do is belittle and harass people but will never adhere to their own teachings on some matters.
MASHALLAH!! I'm learning SOOOOO much from you guys!! THIS IS SO INFORMATIVE! May allah bless yall
Yes! Great video and discussion! He didn't drop the microphone because he is humble but I really wanted him to do it. Stop arguing who is right, just be good to one and other promote and spread peace and love.
Shabir ally is not holding any punches
I still don't know why he is still what he is, he better come to Christ before its too late😂😂😂
And I love this about him.
Thx for being brave enough to talk about this issue 👍
Dr Shabir,and the Quran speak team,please,I beg you,expose all the fake hadiths that make us ,women,suffer a lot in this life mostly at the hands of husbands.
Pseudo salafis go mad when you even question just one hadith which doesn't look authentic .
They glorify Hadith (word of man/hearsay) more than Quran, clear word of God.
@aqeel -محمود That was a dream by ibn e kathir , a metaphorical allegory not a fact you shia rafidhi
Never seen brother Shabir without a hat till now.
Dr Shabir speaks everything from his mind and explains things in a very simple way.
I have a lot of respect and a lot of grudge at the same time for thinking out of the box for Dr. Shabbir Ally. But anyways, we are not propehts, we are not sinless. May Allah have mercy on us all.
Very important topic. Thank you 🙏🏼
I really appreciate your balanced calm reasoned approach
You are the best, Dr. Shabir
A good discourse on the complicated world of hadiths full of minefields. The Study Quran (2017) also gives a pretty good resume on pages xliii-xlv. It also goes further to introduce a new technical term 'Ahadith'. In certain cases it is bold and gives even its own commentaries. There is a special Appendix A incl a long bibliography of Hadith sources. I am so pleased to see that Dr Shabir Ally keeps us on the right track.
Even Sahih bokhari are not 100% sahih.
God has never protected ahadiths, but quoran are protected. People use your minds. Why believe and worship another source than allah/ quran? So dangerous
If the hadiths are fake so is the quran the people who wrote the hadiths are the same ones who wrote the quran. Abu baka/ uthman
@@tonyloan512 That's not how it works.
Hadiths are a chain of multiple narrators over a couple of hundred years that relay what the original narrator allegedly heard the Prophet SAAWS say.
The Quran was "created" less than 30 years after the Prophet SAAWS 's death by collecting all the verses that were remembered by the companions and other trustworthy Muslims, and then were cross examined and compiled in to what is known as the Quran. The people who were responsible for compiling and collecting would have been trustworthy because they were closest to the Prophet, and therefore would have heard the recitations of the Prophet and known which verses were authentic and therefore should be compiled.
Is there room for scepticism in the compilation of the Quranic verses? Yes, however you would have to provide counter-evidence that the verses that were compiled at that time were not revelations of the Prophet SAAWS and that things were either left out or forgotten.
You cannot fully understand Quran without hadith.
The protection of Quran comes with the protection of Hadith.
May Allah bless the Sahaba for preserving the Quran and sunnah and the scholars who have separated sahih hadith from fabrications with the help of sanad.
If u don't understand a matter better to keep quiet than to speak falsehood
@@tonyloan512it’s not true they didn’t wrote down Hadiths they only focused the Quran this idea that Hadiths were wrote down by the companions of the prophet is made up by Wahhabis who is modern movement
Masha Allah awesome topic, well explained, BarakAllah feek both of you
Quran 35v32: *Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen* : but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by Allah's leave, foremost in good deeds; *that is the highest Grace*
Some are just gung-ho on hadith, and treat it like it is God's word. Not surprisingly, God then chooses those who will inherit the Quran, who will receive the great bounty.
I love this! Much respect to you, Dr. Ally!
I'm American Muslim and I always wanted to know about that thanks for the information.
same, this explains a great deal
@@judyanderson-hamed4034 may Allah grant you jannah firdaus
JazakAllah Khairan Dr. Shabir for your wonderfully clear Islam and Iman based and Aql and Mantiq based analysis
Very useful discussion, much needed. jazakallah sheikh.
@बद्री राम पासवान I do not understand your intention in engaging me in this conversation. As I said you are free to believe what you feel is right and we believe what we feel is right. I shall not agree with you nor I am forcing you to agree with me. You seek and satisfy yourself with whatever you feel the truth is.
You can consider me a blind follower and I do not mind that. You go ahead with your eyes open.
Hadith is similar to Bible Written during Prophets life time and thereafter
This makes is susceptible to human errors Hence Hadith need to be studied taking this in to consideration
The authenticity of Hadith is questionable and let not Muslims equate with Al Quran
JazakAllah May Allah blessed It's good to know true information in Authentic Hadith
One Hadith I’m very skeptical of is the one that’s mentioning the ranking of Ali, Omar, Abu Bakr, Osman in terms of virtue.. it seems oddly convenient that the ranking correlates with the order of khulfa rashideen
Beutiful channel . It makes sense . Thanks !
People may dismiss this brother because of the lgbt thing and his Liberal outlook but hes right about this 😂 And the Oulama in Saudi even made many comments about Hadith and how it's being used to go against Quran in many cases in history and its still a problem today
It is disturbing that anyone in their right mind can believe that Hadith can be used to abrogate anything Quran.
@@corazoncubano5372 Yeah its a shame honestly
So! Therefore! The Koran is older than the Hadiths! I am now getting the idea of which is which. Grateful am I for the information.
Please keep yourself safe, we know what happens to people who speak the truth.
Very true!
If the scholars achieve to decode Quran 100% this would be a big gift from GOD.
Quran is the word of ALLAH and nothing compares to it.
If we want to unite the umah we have to reject Hadiths
It's not
Good informative video though, very useful.. Cleared many things in my mind... Good work...
Excellent ❤
Thank you very much
Peace everybody
The Quran is the only book Allah tells us to follow:
This is the Scripture in which there is no doubt, a guide for the righteous - 2:2
Who has been granted permission to say otherwise and to follow any other books? Were they inspired? By whom? The devil?
And the only book He will preserve:
Indeed it is We who have sent down the Reminder, and indeed it is We who will preserve it - 15:9
Who can say the Quran was forged?
Allah tell us to reflect on the Quran:
Do they not reflect on the Quran If it was from any other than God they would have found it very different - 4:82
This ia a rhetorical question asking us to apply the acid test to other books (hadiths, bible...) and you will find therein many discrepancies. Have you not understand that Allah is urging us to THINK (we all have this ability) and stop being followers?
Allah tells having completed the religion during the the prophet livelihood; therefore everything else is Bidaa (addition):
Today I have perfected your system for you, and completed My blessings upon you, and I have accepted surrender as the system for you - 5:3 (part)
Who can pretend having the permission to add anything to this religion (Allah forgives such thoughts)?
And he warns us:
And if you obey the majority of those on Earth they will lead you astray; that is because they follow conjecture, and that is because they only guess - 6:116
Can you deny that the majority is following hadiths rather than Glorious Quran?
The collection of hadiths is the exact same procedures how other religion created their books.
Let us not fall into the devil's trap and look up to the Quran as the last testament preserved by Allah if you are truthful and God fearing.
Salaam
Totally agree with you. Also Allah says about the Quran I have made it easy for you further HE says it’s complete and conclusive.
Finally am finding people like me
Allah told us to follow the messenger as well. How would you know how to pray, hajj, zakat etc without hadith. You can reject some but you can’t follow Quran only. This is apostasy.
@@greenbananas12378 Apostasy is your choice of words. I believe in the book of Allah who claim it is a complete one. If He chose to keep these details to the minimum, it is His religion and we have no choice in it. He told us to follow the prophet because he was obeying what Allah was ordering in the Quran. Know that if you choose to believe in something else, then only you will account for it. Peace.
Jazakallah Khair Dr. Shabir for sharing your profound knowledge with us. I feel enlightened and learn something new every time I watch your videos. May Allah grant you rewards for your service to the Ummah. I appreciate and support all the hard work of the entire team of Quran Speaks.
Considering that the Hadith are usually the main source of both morals and practices in Islam, it's ridiculous that such a huge part of the religion is based on such questionable sources, which were collected after many passing by regular people, and centuries after death of the prophet, instead of being included directly by the prophet in the Quran.
Muslim Ummah needs to be careful about hadith. Many hadiths are damaging the image of Islam.
Great analysis thanks and Allah blessings to you all
Great analysis? He danced around the unreliability of the Hadiths. 😂
To the interested reader, here are some ayat which forbid me from going to hadith. Search the ayat yourself and see what conclusion you come away with.
Warning to not follow any other hadith
- 45:6, 31:6, 39:23, 6:114, 7:185, 77:50
Verses on other books
- 68:35-36, 39:23
Explanation of all things
- 16:89
Straightforward
- 44:58, 54:17, 22, 32, 40, 38:28
Detailed and self-explained
- 39:27, 12:111, 6:114
Sayings of the messenger as revelation
- 69:40-43
Prophet follows not except what is revealed to him
- 6:50, 46:9
Allah commands us and him to do the same
- 6:155, 45:6, 7:3
Burden of explanation not on prophet but on Allah
- 75:18-19
Prophets sole duty is to deliver the message
- 5:67, 92, 99, 13:40, etc
Prophets complaint on judgment day
- 25:30
What a pity,I pity you and your knowledge😂😂
You and your pseudo scholars like this one
@@rationalbeing17 what is more pitiful is that you’re laughing in response to verses of the Quran, if someone had written hadith instead you would have been more respectful.. Shame on you...
The Quran warns us about Hadiths.
Masya Allah. Allahu Akbar ..Dr Shabir is so eloquent & well knowledged. Jazakallahu Khoiron Dr. I pray that I'll be able to move to Canada someday and meeting you in person and join let the Quran speaks
JazakAllah khairan. At the end of the video Dr. Shabir said that there is a Hadees in Sunni Hadith collection abou the 12 imams, i would like to know more about that!
May god bless you dr shabir.
Don't forget the angels for there are many more blessing that way. Quran 33 56 thanks
@@twoangels3405 but man is greater than angels.
@@maxtyson9035 yes you are right . For angels bow down to Adam.
Also Quran 46 31 mere mortal forgive some of your sins.
O our people! Respond to Allah summer Summoner and believe in him. He will forgive you some of your sins and guard you from painful Doom. So any body can forgive sins for Muhammad was a mere mortal. Thank you
If that sentence was talking about Allah he could forgive all your sins.
Good video! Thanks for sharing
It is a great blessing of Allah upon humanity that once again, the tide of Qur'an-only followers is on the rise. Insha'Allah in a decade, more and more rejectors of hadith will come to the fore and insha'Allah the practice of following hadith for guidance will continue to diminish.
Allah has made the religion easy for the people to follow and the hadith literature, which is not sanctioned by Allah, has made the religion impossible to follow.
May Allah continue this tide and return us all to the pristine teachings of the Qur'an. Ameen
You're dellusional.
This Ummah since the time of the sahaba has followed the Quran and the Sunnah, that will never change, you Hadith rejectors are a small tiny fringe group who are not taken seriously and never will be taken seriously.
@@mikk3150 salam Mik. I appreciate your message in response to my comment. I guess I have a few questions for us to consider if you are willing to engage. Please let me know if you are willing so we can proceed. Jzk kher
Salam
@@shanedivix9306 yes.
@@mikk3150 glad to hear it. We can. Begin with some preliminary questions to understand what your starting point is.
1. What is the status of sahih bukhari for you?
- is it the 2nd most authentic book after the Qur'an, as scholars say?
- do you accept ALL the ahadeeth contained in the bukhari collection or do you pick & choose?
- what is your criteria for picking and choosing, if you do not accept all of them?
- do you consider the bukhari collection to be revelation like the Qur'an or do you not consider it to be revelation?
Let us insha'Allah begin with these questions and then we can proceed better
Jzk kher for taking time out of your day to engage in this important discussion :)
I look forward to your replies
Salam
@@shanedivix9306
Sahih Bukhari is the most authentic book of hadith, all hadith in it are authentic, we do not pick and choose.
Bukhari is not revelation like the Quran, but it does contain revelation through the Prophet sallahu alayhi wassalam in his speech, his actions and what he permitted and forbade by the permission of Allah.
The Quran explicitly makes it clear Obey ALLAH, OBEY the messenger numerous times, as well as many instances of it being referenced in the Quran of the Prophet revceiving revelation that isn't actually in the Quran, like the original Qibla, the fact that angels were being sent to assist at Badr, Allah exposing the plot of two of his wives, the prohibition of the munafiqeen being able to join an expedition, and detailed instructions on how to perform salah, do Hajj and other matters.
Dear Sir Shabir, I been following ur videos for many years thank you so much! I learnt a lot from u. Could you please make a video about the dirham which is mentioned in quran? Many non-believers use that to say that it was the coin and that at that time no coins existed. However arabs say they use it for any currency, doesnt have to be coins especially. The last one makes sense for me. I wonder what exactly that dirham was? Im sure it will help me and many others who are being confronted by such questions time to time.
Adnan Rashid has a detailed video on the islamic currencies of the time of the companions
I heard that the prophet (saw) said: "
من كتب عني شيءا غير القرءان فليمحه
And after his death, Abibakar told the companions not to write anything other than except axadith Qudsi. At the Omar khalifah, he collected all Xadith written and burned them. All the Axadith were written at the Abasiin era.
If that is true, why to talk about them now?
If that
So Hadith = Chinese whispers. I wrote a short book becomes = the very small note.
What ever allah forget to put in quran, just create a hadith to fill in the gap😂😂😂😂
Kinda yeah.
@CodeWeb oh really, how do u know how to pray, make wudu, ghusl etc ... re-read your extremely silly comment.
A common sense approach, I've always felt like hadith science was a bit of a blag.
Much love Dr 🤟
You are using a symbol of shaytan. Astahfirrullah, may Allah SubhanwataAllah forgive you.
@@Trust-me-I-am-a-dentist 😂
@@Trust-me-I-am-a-dentist Calm down superstitious one….When one understands the use of sign language, he/she will know that this👉🏾 🤟🏻 means Love.
@@Sean_78 Stop trolling Sean. Find a hobby.
@@Trust-me-I-am-a-dentist I’m trying to help you with proper context so that you will not falsely accused someone else based upon your cultural or religious taboos. You don’t have to associate things outside of your culture, religion, or understanding as something that the devil owns. You give the devil too much power and credit. Example, some Christians associate pitchforks and the color red with satan so they avoid wearing red and using pitchforks for yard work. It’s superstitious. It’s ok to be wrong.
Fun fact: The hand sign has many meanings. It old Italian it means to ward off evil.
very important topic... is there a part one.. hmm..
I was wondering the same thing
Here's part 1: th-cam.com/video/hzs3JEuIgPg/w-d-xo.html
Part 3 coming on Friday insha Allah
Brother Shabir, Allah says in the Quran that the Quran is complete and surah 77 v 50 (Al Mursalat) says:
Then in what statement after the Qur'an will they believe? (50). The Hadith makes statement. How do we reconcile this.
how do u know how to make wudu, make ghusl, pray etc if its not from authentic hadeeth?
@@sayfrunner Why do you refer to what your forefathers said. Allah says in the Quran many times to use our reasons. The Quran explains everything about salaat, wudu, bathing etc if only you knew about the teachings of the Quran.. If that is not the case, then the Quran is not complete and there are things missing but Allah confirms in the Quran that the Quran is complete and Allah forbids us to say a lie about Him.
@@zozoconde4623 then please educate me and show me in the Quran where it says how one makes Ghusl
@@zozoconde4623 cant find it huh? Ask your "forefathers" lol
@@sayfrunner It looks like you do not know the Quran. So go and do your research instead of listening to other people. Use your brain and not the brain of others. The blind is leading the blind. No point discussing with you if you do not know the Quran
Very fair look on this part of Islamic history.
Mashallah may Allah swt protect you two and everyone around you. I just love learning from you about our Religion subhanallah ❤️
I am Najib, an Indonesian, it's great talk... telling the transmission of hadiths until their preservation within great books of Sunni hadiths. It is great recordings of the sayings or actions of the prophet. I have questions: (1) How about Shia recordings that prefer transmissions through ahlul bait (family and descendants of the prophet) that came also to be preserved in the great books of Shia hadiths. Can you make a talk comparing these two traditions. (2) While we have abundance of narratives about Muhammad PBUH as recorded by Sunnis and Shias, even with their sanad (chains of narrators) and evaluation, I can't see this sanad exist in the four gospels recounting Jesus PBUH. It is only matn (the texts) that are exist. Can you say something about it?
None of the gospel authors actually authored their gospels for sure from what I've read. other people wrote them down after their deaths. So there had to be a chain of narrators, it's just not overtly stated.
Ofc the gospels are derivative to an unknown degree of the injeel. Even the Christian scholars belief there is a "q source" which the gospels reference.
Great discussion what are people's thoughts on Buraq
Very subtle message. very intelligent man.
I would even think many times buying a second hand car. How much believing to hadiths base on hearsay. A collection of sayings of many people which collected 200 years after the prophet. Strange and suspicious....
You see hadith to Muslim equivalent to Christian ✝️Bible. The difference is we can trace do falsification test on Hadith . With Bible since we don't have original manuscript it hard to tell which true story or which is added later on. Quran is never changed 1400 . Revealed over 23 of life time of the prophet pbuh. We claim Quran is word of Allah. He preserve it to all mankind until day of judgment. Torah and gospel is revealed only to tribe of Isreal not to all mankind. That is why Allah didn't preserve it.
@@fathimahmmed5293 Allah doesnt preserve the hadiths too. You shouldn't follow them just like the bible.....
@@fathimahmmed5293 But Muslims also do not have the original manuscripts of the Quran or the Hadiths.
Btw, the codices of Ibn Masud, and Ubay Ibn Ka’b differ from the Uthmanic codex. So which codex faithfully preserved the Quranic revelation? Before you answer, note that Mohammed is reported to have said in Bukhari “Take (learn) the Quran from four: Abdullah bin Masud, Salim, Mu’adh, and Ubai bin Ka’b”.
If you claim that the Uthmanic codex should be preferred over all other codices, how do we know that the various canonical readings of the Quran we have today do not diverge from Uthman’s Quran which we do not have? And how do they compare to Hafsa’s Quran, which predates Uthman’s?
Now Muslims want us to take their word when they tell us that the Quran has been preserved word for word and tashkil for tashkil. They claim that the Quran was mass transmitted (mutawatir) and so its preservation cannot be questioned.
But even the claim that the Quran is tawatir is disputed by some Muslim scholars. What needs to be shown is not whether the Uthmanic codex has been preserved, rather it needs to be shown that every Quranic revelation that Mohammed received has been preserved (i.e. nothing was missed in Hafsa’s and Uthman’s Quran). How can that be done when the Quran was not compiled during Mohammed’s time, and that many who had memorized the Quran died in battle of Yamama?
How can you prove this without presupposing that Islam is true? We do not have the original Quranic materials written by Mohammed’s scribes to compare because sadly, Uthman burnt early Quranic materials (fragmentary manuscripts and whole copies).
This is all to point out that in the best case scenario, Muslims can only be confident that the Uthmanic codex was preserved and then hope that his standardization of the Quran faithfully preserved all Quranic revelations.
To maintain their position, they will have to disregard reports of differences with the other codices of Masud and Ka’b. They will have to ignore the Sanaa manuscript, forgo textual criticism, and deny every Hadith that questions “The Standard Narrative”. And in the meantime, they attack the Bible.
Muslims should listen to what Ibn Umar said: “Let none of you say, ‘I have learned the whole of the Quran’, for how does he know what the whole of it is, when much of it has disappeared? Let him say, ‘I have learned what is extant thereof.’”
Your salvation is of utmost importance for you not to look into these things.
@@tictac7359 please show the difference with evidence? I am guessing you are Arabic language scholar?!! 😉 I'm sure go back look Dr Ali's videos the preservation of Quran may give you some education.
@@fathimahmmed5293 Muslim scholars are the ones pointing out these differences. I am only sharing the information that is found in Islamic sources.
Don’t expect your sheik to tell you this information. They don’t want you to have doubts. But you have to do your own research and ask them questions.
Here is a good place to start. The famous Quran translator, Yusuf Ali, mentions that there is an additional clause in Surah 33:6 in the codex of Ubayy ibn Ka’b. This clause “and he is a father of them”, is not found in today’s Quran. Why is that, when Mohammed said Muslims were to learn the Quran from Ubayy ibn Ka’b?
Do not just accept why Dr Ally says in his videos. Investigate his claims because he will not answer for you. You will have to answer for yourself just as everyone else.
I feel the need to mention that the decision to make Abu Bakr caliph was made without Ali even being present. Ali was not even able to make a case for himself because the meeting was called without him.
The hadiths tend to depict Muhammad just like the Caliph of the time they were written at. If the Caliph liked to marry children, then Muhammad had to marry Aisha at 9 years old. If the Caliph liked to stone people then the hadith would say Muhammad ordered the stoning of so and so (even if it's nowhere to be found in the Qur'an as a ruling).
@@kanizfatima1377 They say in false hadiths attributed to Aisha that there used to be a Qur'an verse about stoning, but a hungry goat ate it because it was written in a leaf. So goats abrogate Qur'an verses according to the so called "Salafists".
@@kanizfatima1377 Only lashes is there . There is no stoning . They reject Quran and use hadiths
Bukhari talked to X1, and x1 said he heard from x2 who heard from x3,..., who heard from x8, who heard from Prophet Mohammed. All claimed narrators x2,..,x8 already dead, how do you check their memories or reliability or their morals? At the end of the day all claimed narration is coming from the words of x1...This whole chain of narrations and authenticating is the craziest thing about Islam. Even if all claimed narrators were to be alive you still can't assess their reliability or memory.
Although I don't wear skull cap on regular basis but Dr Shabir Ally was..but the skull cap disappeared from Dr Shabir Ali in this video??
It's not very important question but it simply clicked my mind so I asked...
In 21st Century the KNOWLEDGE OF 7TH CENTURY was progression of knowledge but today in the time of Science and technology these ideas should be seen in te historic perspective otherwise it looks very stale if not IDEIOTIC
Our beloved prophet sallallahu alaiyhi wasalaam appointed maula Ali alaiyhi salaam his successor when he called his families to give first dawah of Islam then on 18th zil hajj our beloved prophet sallallahu alaiyhi wasalaam announced maula Ali alaiyhi salaam his successor at Ghadeer e khum
You write rubbish
Such an informative topic. Maybe this will keep overzealous Salafis from labeling Dr. Ally as a heretic in the future. Thank you to the team!
Its true he is honest here but maybe just beause he is in the americas would have been a different thing if he lives in an Islamic countries... could be playing a good cop and a bad cop 👮♂️ 🤔
Quran speaks you hearted a comment by a anti muslim channel . un heart it quick
He is a clear heretic, no doubt about it.
why don't we all stick to Quran ONLY and save ourselves from all the scams and forgeries? the more you support Hadith the more ridiculous it sounds.
Exactly
You must be the Quran only cult?
@@mistert8775 its not a cult, its islam at it's purest form.
Without the hadith quran is useless
@@manggaseliparjipun are u even Muslim
Excellent. ❤️❤️
Assalamoallikom brother Dr. Shabbir Ally. I am pure born and raised proud Shiaite from Iran. I am deeply surprised that prophet Mohamad PUH whom his family starting from Ali and Fatemah whom were treated in a very disgraceful manner that Fatemah died shortly after her father's death and Ali was associated on occasion of prayer in a mosque and after him Hassan was poisoned, Hussain was grousomely decapitated and so with all the descended of rassoullah all the way to 11th Imam. Now I am surprised that prophet founded the ultimate and righteous Islam but his blood family were treated that way and after all power politics between the Omar Ossman and Aboobakkar who made themselves the leaders of Islam. In all your discussions I have never seen or heard that you mention about Nahjollballaghah and also as we have told by our scholars that at the time war of Khaibar prophet raised the hand Ali and told " من کنت مولاه وعلی مولاه"
Anyway I would appreciate if you elaborate on this please
It’s crazy to think this happened bc of how sinful it is to attach false sayings to the prophet ﷺ
Also, they were judging the character of people who were not around right?
Salam Dr Shabir Ally. Did Prophet saw ever said "follow what I do" and "do how I do" etc
If Ayesha critically evaluated the text's substance, she was in a position to do so since she lived with the prophet. However, for people who lived generations after the prophet, how could they analyze the text's substance ? They did not have the capacity to evaluate the text substance ie. If the the chain of narrators were sound, the text substance woukd likely be also sound because those narrators had more authority that the one who were evaluating the text.
Dr Shabir is not sugar coating his religion...
So much about perfect preservation!
Lol ur a fool - only the quran is preserved
No one has ever claimed that the hadiths were perfectly preserved as they were compiled centuries after the death of the Prophet (SAW) and all directly connected to him. That distinction only belongs to Quran.
the quran is perfectly persevered not hadiths u dumb@ss😂😂 this scholar is talking about HADITHS. Hadiths are man made, the quran is 100% from God thats why its persevered even historians agree. Whats the point of watching this video if u dont know the difference between quran and hadith😂 did u even understand anything this scholar said??
Hadith authentic. Or fabricated v/s Ahlulbait Imam ,question is who should we follow, for me it is the ahlulbait, family of Rasullalah, and descendant of Imam Ali r.a.
Q from a Shi’a on that last part. You said that the 12 Imams (leaders) hadith is likely a fabrication, but could it not be that Rasulullah did in fact allude to 12 leaders but the Sunnis analyse it the content through their theological perspective and rejects it based on their established world view. In other words, could Sunni biased towards the hadith be the cause of them rejecting it out of hand, particularly when they are not so dismissive of other ahadith in the Sahihatu Sitta? It does not seem far fetched that a Prophet (one capable of prophesy) would predict the emergence of these leaders does it?
The truth must be spoken but presenting a narrative like this casts doubt on all Hadiths. It will confuse people and then each one uses or discards texts according to his/her whim. So here we go.
Ask zakir naik....he will tell another tale
What a pleasant family❤
Allah ybarek fikum!
Islam can exist without hadeeth. Islam is Qur'an, Qur'an is Islam. However, hadeeth that do not contradict the Qur'an or other hadeeth can be taken into consideration. Hadeeth is a supplement, not the foundation.
Our book is one. Not six. Qur'an cannot stress enough about that.
So when Allah says we have sent down the Qur'an and the explanation what does that mean, where is the explanation? Or did Allah forget to post it??
@@Chakswari101 Allah says Qur'an itself has the explanation. It is the explanation
@@unsuzherif2337 great so pls give us the explanation from Qur'an how to make hajj, Salah and wudu, good luck
@@Chakswari101
Hajj:
"And complete the ḥajj and ʿumrah for Allah. But if you are prevented, then [offer] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And do not shave your heads until the sacrificial animal has reached its place of slaughter. And whoever among you is ill or has an ailment of the head [making shaving necessary must offer] a ransom of fasting [three days] or charity1 or sacrifice.2 And when you are secure,3 then whoever performs ʿumrah [during the ḥajj months]4 followed by ḥajj [offers] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And whoever cannot find [or afford such an animal] - then a fast of three days during ḥajj and of seven when you have returned [home]. Those are ten complete [days]. This is for those whose family is not in the area of al-Masjid al-Ḥarām. And fear Allah and know that Allah is severe in penalty." (Surah Al-Baqarah 196)
-Tawaf:
"And [mention, O Muḥammad], when We designated for Abraham the site of the House, [saying], "Do not associate anything with Me and purify My House for those who perform ṭawāf1 and those who stand [in prayer] and those who bow and prostrate." (Surah Al-Hajj 26)
"Then let them end their untidiness and fulfill their vows and perform ṭawāf around the ancient House." (Surah Al-Hajj 29)
"And [mention] when We made the House [i.e., the Kaʿbah] a place of return for the people and [a place of] security. And take, [O believers], from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], "Purify My House for those who perform ṭawāf1 and those who are staying [there] for worship and those who bow and prostrate [in prayer]." (Surah Al-Baqarah 1259)
-Pausing in Arafah/Vakfe:
"And proclaim to the people the ḥajj [pilgrimage]; they will come to you on foot and on every lean camel; they will come from every distant pass -" ( Surah Al-Hajj 27)
"That they may witness [i.e., attend] benefits for themselves and mention the name of Allah on known [i.e., specific] days over what He has provided for them of [sacrificial] animals.1 So eat of them and feed the miserable and poor." (Surah Al- Hajj 28)
-Sa'yy:
"Indeed, aṣ-Ṣafā and al-Marwah are among the symbols1 of Allah. So whoever makes ḥajj [pilgrimage] to the House or performs ʿumrah - there is no blame upon him for walking between them.2 And whoever volunteers good - then indeed, Allah is Appreciative3 and Knowing." (Surah Al-Baqarah 158)
Wudhu:
"O you who have believed, when you rise to [perform] prayer, wash your faces and your forearms to the elbows and wipe over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you are in a state of janabah, then purify yourselves. But if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women and do not find water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and hands with it. Allah does not intend to make difficulty for you, but He intends to purify you and complete His favor upon you that you may be grateful." (Surah Al-Ma'idah 6)
Salah:
There are many ayahs which we can understand how salah/ritual prayer is observed. They detail that salah is made by reciting Qur'an and dua, bowing, prostrating (sajdah), staying up, etc.
"[Such believers are] the repentant, the worshippers, the praisers [of Allah], the travelers [for His cause], those who bow and prostrate [in prayer], those who enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong, and those who observe the limits [set by] Allah. And give good tidings to the believers." (Surah At-Tawvah 9:112)
"Only those believe in Our verses who, when they are reminded by them, fall down in prostration and exalt [Allah] with praise of their Lord, and they are not arrogant." (Surah As-Sajdah 15)
- Salah times:
"And establish prayer at the two ends of the day and at the approach of the night. Indeed, good deeds do away with misdeeds. That is a reminder for those who remember." (Surah Hud 114)
"Establish prayer at the decline of the sun [from its meridian] until the darkness of the night1 and [also] the Qur’ān [i.e., recitation] of dawn.2 Indeed, the recitation of dawn is ever witnessed." (Surah Al-Isra 78)
"And from [part of] the night, pray1 with it [i.e., recitation of the Qur’ān] as additional [worship] for you; it is expected that2 your Lord will resurrect you to a praised station." (Surah Al-Isra 79)
"So be patient over what they say and exalt [Allah] with praise of your Lord before the rising of the sun and before its setting; and during periods of the night [exalt Him] and at the ends of the day, that you may be satisfied." (Surah Ta'ha 130)
@@unsuzherif2337 thanks for copying and pasting the general orders to do certain acts of worship, now I ask you the same question, can you explain how to make hajj, Wudu and Salah from Qur'an, what you have copy pasted are general orders not details.
Please can we get Dr Shabir Ally in Mindtrap again ,
Can You Make a Video on Rafa Yadein?
Can you guess as to which country leads in Hadees forgery ! It is Sourh Asia where
churning a new concocted Hadees takes place perhaps every week.
Good discussion
Isnads are totally ridiculous, easily forged. What other area of knowledge uses them?
All of the hadith is forged 69:43-47 and all you need is the Quran. The Quran is the only hadith 77:50, 7:85. The prophet used only the Quran to preach 17:46, 7:2-3.
@@Yameen200 so you’re a judeo-Muslim that abandoned the Quran and that follows the fake stories that the Jews provides as Sahih hadiths, same as the judeo- Christians that follows their nafs through the Bible and abandoned the Taurat and Injeel.
You factually correct, when he was alive there were no Hadith written down. So technically it's fact. The key point is, did Mohammad ever tell people to write down what he said about Islam and rules outside of the Quran.
@@alexojideagu no.
@@Yameen200 let me give you some advice. Ask Allah for guidance and beg him to let you understand the Quran. That’s the only way to be a Muslim because if you are in any sect or school of thought you’re a mushirk. As Allah says in 30:31 - Turning to Him and fear Him and establish salat and do not be from the mushirkina of those who divide their religion and become sects, each party in what they have rejoicing.
@@ridesandshine6406 it’s time we expose this madness!
As a second reliable source of Islam, Hadith has many types in Islam. These types are:
1. Hadith Sahih: It is the Genuine Hadith that has no weakness in its Isnad
(chain of transmission), or in its Matn (text).The Genuine Hadith also has no contradiction of any kind of the established beliefs of Islam. We can say that “Hadith Sahih” is a name that was given
to a “Faultless Hadith. 2. Hadith Hasan: It is also called fair Hadith; as it is similar to genuine
Hadith.The difference between Hadith Sahih and Hadith Hasan is that the Narratorr of the second type has defective memory compared to those of the first type. 3. Hadith Dhaif: This is the third type of types of Hadith in Islam, in which one or more of the Narrators are considered unreliable. In this type of Hadith, some serious doubts can be raised. 4. Forged Hadith: Is the last type, and it is totally forged Hadith. Forged Hadith is also called (Maudu). (Maudu Hadith) also called “Fabricated” Hadith having wording opposite to the confirming Prophetic (PBUH)
traditions.
There are a lot of so called sahib Hadith which are in complete contradiction to Quran . Most of Sahih Hadith on women are obviously incorrect
@@Sceince01 one that comes to mind is the poisoning of the prophet saw, if god protects the prophet how can some womans poison have killed him?
Why was the angel so late to warn him?
Its a clear contridiction yet its sahih al bukhari
Shabbir Ali is a perfect in all his narration he speaks truth that capivates one's mind vry wonderful indeed it is apt answers to haters so cooly and calmnly explaining the position of hadees unlike other haters who shouts mocks laughs screams as they have god in their pocket
Shia sects emerged from khawarij not during the time of first Caliphate, but later around the time of Fitna.
Excellent discussion with the Sheikh moderated by sister. Thoughtful and respectful as always.
May Allah reward you for your efforts
Isn’t it according to hadith nothing should be written down except Quran
Masha Allah
Q: 31v6 وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يَشْتَرِي لَهْوَ الْحَدِيثِ* لِيُضِلَّ عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَيَتَّخِذَهَا هُزُوًا ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ مُّهِينٌ
And of the people is he who buys the idle / frivolous tales (lahw al-hadith) to mislead [others] from the way of God without knowledge and who takes it in ridicule. Those will have a humiliating punishment.
Quran used the word "hadith" in the verse*. Many skeptics assumed hadith is endorsed by the Prophet himself, or it is the word of God. The Quran says the transgressors misguide their own selves. They believe in false evidence to secure their own belief and God will throw them rope in their trespasses.
Q:2v15 Allah will throw back their mockery on them, and give them rope in their trespasses; so they will wander like blind ones (To and fro)
Q:39:36...for such as Allah leaves to stray, there can be no guide
Q:8v30 They plan, and Allah plans. Surely, Allah is the Best of planners
There are obviously good reasons why Hadith was allowed to come into existence