@@liviubora You've misinterpreted the subject of the "certainty" in this speech, confusing issues of the physical world with those of the spiritual, or psychological. No one here has questioned the laws of physics. As regards your conclusions about "weakness" being a symptom of those who question...you may want to start with the Greeks of Classical Antiquity, and proceed forward through the two subsequent millennia philosophical grappling. You will learn that to admit to "not knowing" once in awhile is a virtue and a sign of strength, not of weakness. Good luck on your road to wisdom.
Watched this movie today and this scene was one of about 3 that moved me to tears cuz it resonated so much and even gave me some clarity on my own spiritual journey. Very deep.
One small positive though in the morning can change your whole day. One small and profound statement in a movie like this can revolutionize your thinking. When I heard this line in the movie, I almost burst into tears. This movie was superb. Excellent analysis.
I read this book in 2016 and words failed to express how much I loved it. Awesome writing which obviously came from exacting research into the process of selecting a pope. And to know that Ralph Fiennes is starring, it’s gotta be a success at the box office.
It’s sooo much more than religion. I’m not Catholic and I was deeply touched, spiritually. There is so much truth in this story and all the cast are superb.
That “piece of music” a you say, is Gregorio Allegri’s Miserere, very moving indeed even for non catholics or even non believers. A masterpiece indeed.
The director proves that he hasn't done his research properly though by claiming it was the only music played in the Sistine Chapel for hundreds of years. What he has misunderstood is the claim that it was never played anywhere else which may be true. Poor bewildered old soul no wonder his film is such a crock.
The English (or Anglican) version of Allegri Miserere is actually more popular than the original one and perhaps should be credited for causing the reemergence of the hymn.
@@huolalupin6008 According to Wikipedia, Mozart transcribed the notes down upon only hearing it once when he was in Sistine. Some English music publisher copied his notes when they encountered somewhere in the Continent and brought it to Britain. The hymn started to gain modern prominence when a Cambridge college choir published a record of the singing.
_Conclave_ is an extremely handsome film and the performances are great across the board. The ending revelation is unironically based, shedding light and provocatively challenging the audience that something of that nature perhaps isn't even the 1st occurrence throughout the Holy See's history.
What an interesting explanation of this scene. Bravo to the Director for doing this so succinctly and elegantly. I am so looking forward to seeing this movie.
Eastern Patriarchs. When you refer to "Roman Catholic" that is a misnomer term invented anti-Catholics to actually refer to "Latin Rite Catholic", which comprises about 98% of the world's Catholics, but other rites include Maronite Catholics, Ruthenian Catholics, Syriac Catholics etc
If you want to see the film so much, you can support it by paying for it like a normal person. The film scenes with directorial commentary video is a very well-established genre by now, so why are you complaining?
Days later, the movie reminded me of the "certainty" discussion in "Buster Scruggs": remember? th-cam.com/video/KYa2b3T0qLI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RuHpN1hgkPKlA9Bs
It would have been more effective if you had done your intro and then let us hear his whole speech, Italian and English. It's a shame to upstage him and then cut him off. Kind of swallows your point, doesn't it?
You spent so much time talking about this piece of music yet you do not tell us what it is!!!!!!! How smart is that? Other music is played in the Sistine Chapel. On TH-cam you can find a video with Pope Benedict XVI attending a concert by the Vatican Choir - in the SIstine Chapel. You need to be more precise--the piece you are referring to - which you do not identify (I assume you are referring to Allegri´s Miserere) was composed for the exclusive use of the Sistine Chapel and is no doubt sung in the chapel during Holy Week ever since it was composed. But this piece is performed all over the world. Your reporting needs to be much better prepared.
Wrong on so many counts: "Lord, make me an instrument of your peace: where there is hatred, let me sow love; where there is injury, pardon; where there is doubt, faith;"
The irony of preaching doubt as "openness" and yet ending the film with a dogmatic affirmation of contemporary orthodoxy that the church is wrong about the lgbtqi+ alphabet soup of "sexual identities"! Pathetic. And, oh, so boooorrring.
@@donna25871 , Yes, complete surprise and secret, known only to 3 people, after the election. The movie, seems to indicate Lawrence will just say nothing and let "her" remain Pope.
I met Jesus. God came as pure Holy light.Jesus transfigured. Far beyond the laws of nature. I met God. I am always certain. And know who is not a God selected saint.
Jesus said...each time FAITH seems to be used against humankind, we have to take the Holy books and read them all over again... what he did for first. Still today, if you dare to criticize the establishment, you risk to be crucifyed.. much worse than Jesus for sure because...Jesus was one...all the others are worthless, in the name of preserving power, human sacrifices are ...a must. If Jesus would walk among us these days, on poor ones side, they should say, he is a communist activist anarchist manipulator dragging people and doing the brain washing, he would get in big trouble, something like Navalny facing Putin's absolute power. Same old story. If you dare to talk about Jesus...you risk to be...accused of blasfemy, Jesus is a church's property, it will be the church the one to tell you what Jesus said, it's not your. .. freedom to scrutinize the church's job, only obey. It's important to understand because...organized crime is based on the same rules and same... deadly tricks of a kind. Do you remember when they found big piles of confidential cables in Trump's home? Tell me how come he didn't have the idea the very first day he was elected? Collect informations in order to blackmail or threat or mock or keep someone under control...having power to hold dirty secrets over State employees and institutions..no, he did not think about it if not his last days at the White House. Someone ...suggested him what to do, just enough to let him understand who gives the orders and keep all Americans by the balls. It's not a good feeling. But then it came web connection and hackers entertainment, no need for secret paper work, just listen people conversations and use informations against them. Putin was a KGB agent during the Cold war in Berlin, he is ...the perfect expert on ... listening the others secrets. There are not ...deep State threats only American haters and we are all victims of evil intentions of a kind, you can bet on it
It is amazing people fall into in the scam of Atheism or Agnosticism which in reality is the fact that only objective morals exist and there is not absolute right or wrong. Instead of believing in chemical reactions in your brain put your faith in something proven by history, science, and ect Christianity saids the exact opposite of moral relativism and saids morals do exist and we have control ourselves.
Silly Bishop Robbie Barron thinks the movie "Conclave" is anti-catholic propaganda. How intellecually dishonest and frankly silly. Conclave is a novel. He should read the historical work "The Pope and Mussolini." Barron was supposed to be one of the smart ones. I guess not. And I went to school with him. Yeah, he was always smarmy. Nothing has changed.
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"Certainty is the great enemy of unity." What a great quote.
Agreed. It’s taken right from the Robert Harris novel it’s based on! :)
Aren’t you certain there’s gravity?
I think there are some axioms that are to be held as certain. This questionning of everything is for the weak
@@liviubora Sokal affair (1996?) all over again.
@@liviubora You've misinterpreted the subject of the "certainty" in this speech, confusing issues of the physical world with those of the spiritual, or psychological. No one here has questioned the laws of physics. As regards your conclusions about "weakness" being a symptom of those who question...you may want to start with the Greeks of Classical Antiquity, and proceed forward through the two subsequent millennia philosophical grappling. You will learn that to admit to "not knowing" once in awhile is a virtue and a sign of strength, not of weakness. Good luck on your road to wisdom.
Loved this movie. More of these mid-range budget adult films, please and thank you!
Great dialogs
Watched this movie today and this scene was one of about 3 that moved me to tears cuz it resonated so much and even gave me some clarity on my own spiritual journey. Very deep.
Ditto~ so fantastic. I wanna see it again just to record that part
What do you mean by spiritual journey?
One small positive though in the morning can change your whole day. One small and profound statement in a movie like this can revolutionize your thinking. When I heard this line in the movie, I almost burst into tears. This movie was superb. Excellent analysis.
Ralph Fiennes is a brilliant actor, and Conclave seems really interesting ♥️ Thank you for this video!
outstanding movie! And that speech gave me goosebumps in the movie theatre and once again as I listened now! WOW!
He SHALL be nominated.
sure but I doubt he will win even though it’s a great performance
Give the man his Oscar already
We gave too little credit to Robert Harris the author of the novel.
Love Ralph Fiennes. Always did.
I read this book in 2016 and words failed to express how much I loved it. Awesome writing which obviously came from exacting research into the process of selecting a pope. And to know that Ralph Fiennes is starring, it’s gotta be a success at the box office.
Any Catholic grandma can tell you the process of selecting the pope 🤣.
Go and watch it. He is phenomenal, just out of this world!
LOVED LOVED LOVED this film❤️ Ralph is masterful, in every role.
Ralph Fiennes, Voldemort to Cardinal ❤❤❤
Such an incredible actor.
This is one of the most GREAT movies I've ever seen 👌🙌The cast is top notch 👌
I’ve seen it three times, probably will see again. Nothing can compare to this, at this time!
A movie about religion is one of the last things I want to watch, but I'd watch Fiennes in anything, really.
It’s sooo much more than religion. I’m not Catholic and I was deeply touched, spiritually. There is so much truth in this story and all the cast are superb.
That “piece of music” a you say, is Gregorio Allegri’s Miserere, very moving indeed even for non catholics or even non believers. A masterpiece indeed.
The director proves that he hasn't done his research properly though by claiming it was the only music played in the Sistine Chapel for hundreds of years. What he has misunderstood is the claim that it was never played anywhere else which may be true. Poor bewildered old soul no wonder his film is such a crock.
@@huolalupin6008 frfr 😂.
The English (or Anglican) version of Allegri Miserere is actually more popular than the original one and perhaps should be credited for causing the reemergence of the hymn.
@@huolalupin6008 According to Wikipedia, Mozart transcribed the notes down upon only hearing it once when he was in Sistine. Some English music publisher copied his notes when they encountered somewhere in the Continent and brought it to Britain. The hymn started to gain modern prominence when a Cambridge college choir published a record of the singing.
_Conclave_ is an extremely handsome film and the performances are great across the board. The ending revelation is unironically based, shedding light and provocatively challenging the audience that something of that nature perhaps isn't even the 1st occurrence throughout the Holy See's history.
Thank you for mentioning the fact that we don't know if this hasn't happened before. It may very well have done.
Conclave is a heretical movie
It’s 2024. That intersex guy ending is already a cliche.
@@alexandertorroThe Catholic it’s heretical just like the movie.
@@MiguelQuienComoEl
In what way is Catholosism heretical?
And where is the proof that it's heretical?
Geez, would this narrator please shut up and just let us hear the speech ? I saw the movie yesterday and was mesmerized by Cardinal Lawrence's speech.
Not the point of the video. Just watch the movie again or look for a clip
I loved this movie. It's not perfect but it's well made, well acted, compelling and even though I called the ending, I enjoyed the journey.
I was hoping to hear the speech. Saw the movie and loved it
What an interesting explanation of this scene. Bravo to the Director for doing this so succinctly and elegantly. I am so looking forward to seeing this movie.
I love his acting. Hes amazing
One can only hope that this sort of deliberate nakedness could happen even once in hundreds of years within this institution.
I will definitely watch this movie on Tuesday!
Thank you.
Perfection!!
I’m certain that “Conclave” is an Oscar contender.
..."certainty is the deadly enemy of tolerance"....enlightenment has finally made its way into the church...halleluja 😃
Only in the movie church...
Wait, isn't this movie based on the 'Conclave' novel by Robert Harris? If so, why no mention of that in the description?
Edward Berger, just a beginning
The title promised that we would get to see the speech. That’s a click-bait lie. Poor form.
No
Ralph Fiennes has great👍
Don't worry about Cartoon Network+The Miracle Maker series = are be voice actor of Simeon
The music is the original Miserere Mei Deus by Allegri.
Saw it in theatre last week. Highly entertaining and fascinating film, although the ending is weak.
Very.
Same with the novel.
The new pope is really a woman.
@@a.t.c.3862spoiler warning
@@a.t.c.3862spoiler !!! I’m glad that i saw it 😡. But now the end is ruined for those who did not see it
What's the name of the song that the choir sings before Cardinal Lawrence's speech?
Is there somewhere we can actually hear this speech? I wanted to hear the speech, not the director. 😖
In the film?
Ralph , Papa subito !
It must be a piece by Palestrina.
Who are the non Roman Catholic looking guys in the college of the cardinals
Eastern Patriarchs. When you refer to "Roman Catholic" that is a misnomer term invented anti-Catholics to actually refer to "Latin Rite Catholic", which comprises about 98% of the world's Catholics, but other rites include Maronite Catholics, Ruthenian Catholics, Syriac Catholics etc
Looks and sounds nice, but Euro Trip is still the best conclave movie ever made.
“Watch Ralph Fiennes Deliver a Startling Speech” Nahhhh let’s instead listen to the Director talk over it the whole time.
If you want to see the film so much, you can support it by paying for it like a normal person.
The film scenes with directorial commentary video is a very well-established genre by now, so why are you complaining?
Watch the movie then
@@KnarfSteinbecause the title is click-baity, that's why he's complaining duh.. 😮💨
Days later, the movie reminded me of the "certainty" discussion in "Buster Scruggs": remember? th-cam.com/video/KYa2b3T0qLI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RuHpN1hgkPKlA9Bs
It would have been more effective if you had done your intro and then let us hear his whole speech, Italian and English. It's a shame to upstage him and then cut him off. Kind of swallows your point, doesn't it?
The greatest sin is certainty
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mmm, a good padawan he would make . . .
Would have been nice to actually watch the scene.
You spent so much time talking about this piece of music yet you do not tell us what it is!!!!!!! How smart is that? Other music is played in the Sistine Chapel. On TH-cam you can find a video with Pope Benedict XVI attending a concert by the Vatican Choir - in the SIstine Chapel. You need to be more precise--the piece you are referring to - which you do not identify (I assume you are referring to Allegri´s Miserere) was composed for the exclusive use of the Sistine Chapel and is no doubt sung in the chapel during Holy Week ever since it was composed. But this piece is performed all over the world. Your reporting needs to be much better prepared.
I want to see the scene not critic
Wrong on so many counts:
"Lord, make me an instrument of your peace:
where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;"
I wish I could have seen and heard the scene. Sadly, the director would not stop talking.
C+
The irony of preaching doubt as "openness" and yet ending the film with a dogmatic affirmation of contemporary orthodoxy that the church is wrong about the lgbtqi+ alphabet soup of "sexual identities"! Pathetic. And, oh, so boooorrring.
I'm looking forward to the movie, was disappointed with the book
??!! Because it stopped too soon? It should have had another chapter? Or was the final twist not needed?
I’m totally hooked on this book! I can totally feel Lomeli’s (Lawrence’s) inner turmoil. He’s so unsure of himself, it’s heartbreaking.
@@dennisgannonhaven’t seen the film yet but is the twist at the end the same as the book?
@@donna25871 , Yes, complete surprise and secret, known only to 3 people, after the election. The movie, seems to indicate Lawrence will just say nothing and let "her" remain Pope.
@donna25871 Yep. The new pope is a woman.
Great scene, great movie. I hope the Catholic Church takes note of some of the progressive feelings portrayed in the movie.
Get a new title for the video. We don’t hear the speech. Directors explanation of actors speech.
Such is fiction ,but a make believe fantasy.
Worst movie ever the new pope is a woman, not really
📿📿📿📿📿
No don't watch this sacrilege
I met Jesus. God came as pure Holy light.Jesus transfigured. Far beyond the laws of nature. I met God. I am always certain. And know who is not a God selected saint.
Very liberal woke movie.
Jesus said...each time FAITH seems to be used against humankind, we have to take the Holy books and read them all over again... what he did for first. Still today, if you dare to criticize the establishment, you risk to be crucifyed.. much worse than Jesus for sure because...Jesus was one...all the others are worthless, in the name of preserving power, human sacrifices are ...a must. If Jesus would walk among us these days, on poor ones side, they should say, he is a communist activist anarchist manipulator dragging people and doing the brain washing, he would get in big trouble, something like Navalny facing Putin's absolute power. Same old story. If you dare to talk about Jesus...you risk to be...accused of blasfemy, Jesus is a church's property, it will be the church the one to tell you what Jesus said, it's not your. .. freedom to scrutinize the church's job, only obey. It's important to understand because...organized crime is based on the same rules and same... deadly tricks of a kind. Do you remember when they found big piles of confidential cables in Trump's home? Tell me how come he didn't have the idea the very first day he was elected? Collect informations in order to blackmail or threat or mock or keep someone under control...having power to hold dirty secrets over State employees and institutions..no, he did not think about it if not his last days at the White House. Someone ...suggested him what to do, just enough to let him understand who gives the orders and keep all Americans by the balls. It's not a good feeling. But then it came web connection and hackers entertainment, no need for secret paper work, just listen people conversations and use informations against them. Putin was a KGB agent during the Cold war in Berlin, he is ...the perfect expert on ... listening the others secrets. There are not ...deep State threats only American haters and we are all victims of evil intentions of a kind, you can bet on it
Christ saves 🇻🇦✝️, this movie sucks
I lived everything about this movie, except for the last 5 min.
felt exactly the same.
@@BradenSmallwood-x7oSame with the original novel. The new pope is a woman. 🙄
T shirt palace is sellong NY times sucks tees 😅😅😅
It’s amazing how people still fall for the scam of religion.
It is amazing people fall into in the scam of Atheism or Agnosticism which in reality is the fact that only objective morals exist and there is not absolute right or wrong. Instead of believing in chemical reactions in your brain put your faith in something proven by history, science, and ect Christianity saids the exact opposite of moral relativism and saids morals do exist and we have control ourselves.
The Great Warning is a much better movie
The Crying Game for Catholics.
horrible movie.
Boooo, a very stupid movie here, yeh it has pretty colors, good acting, nice costumes, BUT,,, it’s boring and its trying to sell you a bag of rubbish
Silly Bishop Robbie Barron thinks the movie "Conclave" is anti-catholic propaganda. How intellecually dishonest and frankly silly. Conclave is a novel. He should read the historical work "The Pope and Mussolini." Barron was supposed to be one of the smart ones. I guess not. And I went to school with him. Yeah, he was always smarmy. Nothing has changed.