Thank you for sticking around for the response video. And also thank you for the great idea! This video was fun to make and the response is great so far. 😀
Awesome comparison dude! The CE-1 Preamp just has some magic behind it that the Micro Amp lacks, but for the price it's a great substitute for those wanting to just push their amp a little more into that crunchy sound.
didn't johns old tech rip you a new one last year. i told me family about that and we all laughed over our expensive diner's while we shared good times... about how you messed that one up, omg! best day eva!
John actually used both (The original CE-1 and Micro amp) and never left one of them from the board. Actually I think the Micro Amp is most underrated pedal of all time - my favorite clean boost ever - and there is a big different between a new one and early 80's ones which john using. Anyway great comparison - both are great.
Yeah but did he have to use the Micro Amp too because of the long cable runs? Frusciante fans don't have to worry about super long cable runs, we're not rockstars.
Really good comparison video! I've been using the Triungulo Lab Crunch for the basic crunch tone BUT when I go for more BSSM sound I remove the CE-2W chorus and crunch and add DOD FX65 Stereo Chorus with the Micro Amp aswell. I think you could get away with only using the Micro Amp and settle for more of Frusciante live tone which has always been somewhat crunchier and gainy God bless 🙏
Sick! I’m thinking about my next pedals being the DOD FX65 and MXR Micro Amp. I’ll put them next to each other in the chain, will it do for Johns tones?
The micro amp doesn't really do anything aside from boosting your signal. So what you're actually hearings is your natural tube amp overdrive compared to the CE-1, not the pedal. So if you have a solid state amp, don't think that you're going to get the tone that was in the video. You need a tube amp, or more specifically the two amps in the video to do that. But the amp crunch really holds up well. The CE-1 probably isn't all that necessary if you can hone in on that.
Great video man! I ve been quite surprised how good did the MXR Micro Amp deal with the Distortion & Wah effects alone! Having both the Chorus Ensemble and Micro Amp on board, I ve never thought of trying this since I use the Micro Amp only for solos - volume boost.
Oh damn just checked out your channel from your comment on my old ass video and I see you are a big John Frusciante and a big Marshall fan and I am also both of those. Hell yea man! Time to go down a rabbit hole watching your videos :)
Great comparison! I actually never thought about using the micro amp this way, I‘m just using it like you mentioned before, as a normal gain/volume boost. Btw: are you using a made in taiwan ds-2 or made in japan?🤔 greetings!
Thank you! Yes, me too, until I got the comment question. :D Honestly I don’t even know. Haven’t thought too much about it, but the HeART book makes me more interested in the topic. :)
i'd say it's quite a significant price difference. i've been using the boost on a behringer super fuzz which was just $19. the micro amp is $80 whereas the ensemble crunch is nearly twice that. there's also a huge variety of boost pedals to choose from.
And the SF300 takes well the DS2 or the WH10? It's quite impressive for me, as people love that pedal due to fuzz sounds, and ignore the boost function
@@Vigi which country do you live in? Been meaning to ask. In America the micro amp goes for $80 USD with free shipping. But i know other countries have different sites with different prices (not to mention currency)
@@jorge.az07 the sf300 boost works well for pedal stacking. Cleaner than combining a distortion+fuzz, just put the boost before your distortion or fuzz. Works well either side of wh10. I got the pedal mostly for boost. Boost is really only good for getting extra gain from your tube amp or tube modeling pedal. But you can use it to push your other pedals too.
ehi vigi! first I wanna congratulate for your knowledge about frusciante gear and sound! I also wanna ask you, the micro amp can add a crunchy sound even on a no-valve amp? case I'm using a combo amp, and I'm desperately looking for a crunch pedal...thank you very much!!
@@Vigi yes but i made a mistake in my comment. You played the end solo from „Throw away your Television“ not Parallel Universe. A very tricky solo in my opinion ^^ 👍🏼
The CE1 sounded way better, but the price tag is too high for me I found, by trying lots of pedals that what works for someone may not work for everyone and in the end, it's all about trying. I get my crunch sound from the Joyo Deluxe Crunch and sounds clear and takes the DS2, Fuzzrite and WH10 quite well :)
hey! I also used the joyo DC for the "Frusciante clean crunch", and other cheap pedals as well, but it never got me that close with my setup. I remember with the Joyo I had to dial the DS2 differently like, level and dist maxed out but the tone at 12'o clock. Now I use the Morning Glory and feels more "legit" but I think the idea is to stop obsessing so much over correct settings and find your sound within John's palette.
Can you tell me something about the chain/signal way? Is it in the way like the pedals on the video? And how would it be if I would use both. The MXR and the chorus ensemble?
so the preamp one is not just a boost but has its own clipping and tone for the crunch, right? i always assumed it was just an overrated boost but sounds like it has alot going on
Sounds are quite the same. On my jubilee, I compared both. cE-1 Clone from Past FX affects sounds level, bass settings on my silver jubilee studio. Moreover, the sound is less fat. I prefer MicroAmp.
Brilliant, i think there’s definitely a noticeable improvement with the CE1, I have the chorus on order so can’t wait to get my hands on it but you said something at the end which peaked my interest, regarding the jackhammer. I’ve been using the jackhammer to keep the DS2 and WH10 in check but what do you do for this?
Thank you! I love them! It’s the Fender vintage tweed strap. They’re so light and comfortable. 😍 However, I always wanted black ones and when searching to answer your question, I see they have something called “weightless” available in black. But I’ve already bought enough straps for all my guitars.. 😅
@@Vigi i just can never keep my eyes off them while they’re in the shot and would love to hear talk about them as the centre of attention. Then again, completely up to you! :)
@@hertderg12 I have the Triungulo Version of that Preamp. And I still cant understand, how with that 3 High gain pedals on at the same time, the Noise Ratio its so good.
Thanks for creating a video to help answer my question, it was a very good video. Thanks!
Thank you for sticking around for the response video. And also thank you for the great idea! This video was fun to make and the response is great so far. 😀
@@Vigi hi Vigi...can you do a comparison now between the Ce chorus vs Jackhammer? In order to see what gives the best cleanish...
Awesome comparison dude! The CE-1 Preamp just has some magic behind it that the Micro Amp lacks, but for the price it's a great substitute for those wanting to just push their amp a little more into that crunchy sound.
Hey Justin! 😀 I totally agree. :)
didn't johns old tech rip you a new one last year. i told me family about that and we all laughed over our expensive diner's while we shared good times... about how you messed that one up, omg! best day eva!
So far the best frusciante style instructor available right now on TH-cam.Thx for your passion and earnestness for such this brilliant work.
Thank you very much! That means a lot! I want to do more videos on this theme. :)
John actually used both (The original CE-1 and Micro amp) and never left one of them from the board. Actually I think the Micro Amp is most underrated pedal of all time - my favorite clean boost ever - and there is a big different between a new one and early 80's ones which john using. Anyway great comparison - both are great.
What are the differences? And any source on John's being an early 80s model?
Yeah but did he have to use the Micro Amp too because of the long cable runs? Frusciante fans don't have to worry about super long cable runs, we're not rockstars.
Really good comparison video!
I've been using the Triungulo Lab Crunch for the basic crunch tone BUT when I go for more BSSM sound I remove the CE-2W chorus and crunch and add DOD FX65 Stereo Chorus with the Micro Amp aswell. I think you could get away with only using the Micro Amp and settle for more of Frusciante live tone which has always been somewhat crunchier and gainy
God bless 🙏
Thank you!
Yes! There are many roads to outstanding tone! 🤩
🙏🙏
Sick! I’m thinking about my next pedals being the DOD FX65 and MXR Micro Amp. I’ll put them next to each other in the chain, will it do for Johns tones?
The micro amp doesn't really do anything aside from boosting your signal. So what you're actually hearings is your natural tube amp overdrive compared to the CE-1, not the pedal. So if you have a solid state amp, don't think that you're going to get the tone that was in the video. You need a tube amp, or more specifically the two amps in the video to do that.
But the amp crunch really holds up well. The CE-1 probably isn't all that necessary if you can hone in on that.
Hmm I think of it as both pedals boosting the signal and both coloring the sound on its own way. 🤷♂️
Really enjoying your videos man. Your production is amazing!
Wow thank you! 🙏
Thank you for this comparison! Im one of the people who asked you how was the diference between them. This video was very cool!
Thank you! Hopefully it helped to give insight on the question. :)
I really was waiting for a video like this! I don't know how to thank you enough!
That’s cool to hear! Thank you! 😀
Great playing and great comparison!
Great video man! I ve been quite surprised how good did the MXR Micro Amp deal with the Distortion & Wah effects alone! Having both the Chorus Ensemble and Micro Amp on board, I ve never thought of trying this since I use the Micro Amp only for solos - volume boost.
Thank you! My thoughts too! :)
Oh damn just checked out your channel from your comment on my old ass video and I see you are a big John Frusciante and a big Marshall fan and I am also both of those. Hell yea man! Time to go down a rabbit hole watching your videos :)
Wow awesome! Just be careful. I haven’t managed to get out of the Marshall/JF rabbit hole 10+ years later.. 😅
Thats really helps me understand these pedals more, thank you
Great comparison! I actually never thought about using the micro amp this way, I‘m just using it like you mentioned before, as a normal gain/volume boost. Btw: are you using a made in taiwan ds-2 or made in japan?🤔 greetings!
Thank you! Yes, me too, until I got the comment question. :D Honestly I don’t even know. Haven’t thought too much about it, but the HeART book makes me more interested in the topic. :)
Fookin awesome tones brotha ♡
Thanks bro!! 🖤
i'd say it's quite a significant price difference. i've been using the boost on a behringer super fuzz which was just $19. the micro amp is $80 whereas the ensemble crunch is nearly twice that. there's also a huge variety of boost pedals to choose from.
And the SF300 takes well the DS2 or the WH10? It's quite impressive for me, as people love that pedal due to fuzz sounds, and ignore the boost function
Hmm, € 98 (Thomann) vs € 116. 🤷♂️
@@Vigi which country do you live in? Been meaning to ask. In America the micro amp goes for $80 USD with free shipping. But i know other countries have different sites with different prices (not to mention currency)
@@jorge.az07 the sf300 boost works well for pedal stacking. Cleaner than combining a distortion+fuzz, just put the boost before your distortion or fuzz. Works well either side of wh10. I got the pedal mostly for boost. Boost is really only good for getting extra gain from your tube amp or tube modeling pedal. But you can use it to push your other pedals too.
John used both pedals. The CE1 and the micro amp since "by the way". So actually both sound very much like John ;-).
ehi vigi! first I wanna congratulate for your knowledge about frusciante gear and sound! I also wanna ask you, the micro amp can add a crunchy sound even on a no-valve amp? case I'm using a combo amp, and I'm desperately looking for a crunch pedal...thank you very much!!
It would it's a volume boost pedal it can break up no valve amps.
wow you could do a lesson on that badass Parallel Univers Solo. Many techniques in that. Thanks for all those vids you put out.
Do you mean a live version? :) Thank you!
@@Vigi yes but i made a mistake in my comment. You played the end solo from „Throw away your Television“ not Parallel Universe. A very tricky solo in my opinion ^^ 👍🏼
Haha ok, I see! Yes there’s definitely a lot of things going on there. :)
The CE1 sounded way better, but the price tag is too high for me
I found, by trying lots of pedals that what works for someone may not work for everyone and in the end, it's all about trying. I get my crunch sound from the Joyo Deluxe Crunch and sounds clear and takes the DS2, Fuzzrite and WH10 quite well :)
It’s awesome that you share more roads to great tone! I had no idea about this. :D
hey! I also used the joyo DC for the "Frusciante clean crunch", and other cheap pedals as well, but it never got me that close with my setup. I remember with the Joyo I had to dial the DS2 differently like, level and dist maxed out but the tone at 12'o clock. Now I use the Morning Glory and feels more "legit" but I think the idea is to stop obsessing so much over correct settings and find your sound within John's palette.
@@LuisRFeliu Thanks for sharing your experience and well put conclusion. :)
Awesome video bro
Thank you! 😀
He actually uses both. The ce1 is always on and so is the mxr micro amp set to noon for his pushed clean sound
Yes, that is true. This video isn’t meant to suggest that isn’t the case. :)
perfect video !! thanks. I split the stereo signal with the excellent Boss Ce-2 waza craft (unfortunatly it has no crunch :( ) after a crunch pedal
Can you tell me something about the chain/signal way? Is it in the way like the pedals on the video? And how would it be if I would use both. The MXR and the chorus ensemble?
so the preamp one is not just a boost but has its own clipping and tone for the crunch, right? i always assumed it was just an overrated boost but sounds like it has alot going on
Yep. It do has its own gain structure. :)
@@Vigi well i might have to check that out... :)
Thanks!! I was wondering when would you do this comparison
Did you expect this too? 😮
Yes, I was just waiting for your opinion but you made a comparison
Before, I wouldn't had expected the similarity but after watching dave simpson's opinion on frusciante's tone it does make sense 👍
Sounds are quite the same.
On my jubilee, I compared both. cE-1 Clone from Past FX affects sounds level, bass settings on my silver jubilee studio. Moreover, the sound is less fat.
I prefer MicroAmp.
Brilliant, i think there’s definitely a noticeable improvement with the CE1, I have the chorus on order so can’t wait to get my hands on it but you said something at the end which peaked my interest, regarding the jackhammer. I’ve been using the jackhammer to keep the DS2 and WH10 in check but what do you do for this?
I use the CE. :)
@@Vigi ah of course 😁
Cool! I have the micro amp. Gives me a nice crunch, but when I turn the DS-2 on it gets really loud. Is it the same with the CE-1?
have you tried the PastFX ce-1? Looks tempting for $190 on sale right now!
I have not unfortunately. 🤷♂️
I also seem to get a decent crunchy tone with a little extra gain from the dyna comp
Good vid. What are those green guitar straps you use? i like them
Thank you! I love them! It’s the Fender vintage tweed strap. They’re so light and comfortable. 😍 However, I always wanted black ones and when searching to answer your question, I see they have something called “weightless” available in black. But I’ve already bought enough straps for all my guitars.. 😅
I’d love to a video of you explaining how you set up your two amps
EQ settings? I feel to unsure about it to speak about it. But maybe I should try. 😅
@@Vigi i just can never keep my eyes off them while they’re in the shot and would love to hear talk about them as the centre of attention. Then again, completely up to you! :)
Haha yeah I’ve been thinking I should do a video where the amps are the center of attention. But I haven’t figured out what to say. xD
@@Vigi take your time dude, it’ll be well worth the wait!
hi Vigi...can you do a comparison now between the Ce chorus vs Jackhammer? In order to see what gives the best cleanish...
It would be interesting to do if I had the Jackhammer. :)
Jackhammer "drowns" the signal, its ok for cleanish but nothing simmilar how By the Way sounds
what Is the order of pedals with micro amp?
There are a few modelers that claim to recreate the CE-1 sound (Helix and Zoom come to mind). Have you ever tried any to compare?
I have not unfortunately. 🤷♂️
4:32 La Cigale!
Vídeo sensacional.
Saudações do Brasil.
How do you do the lick at 5:25 ?
One question.. why did you put the Tuner pedal together with the MXR and not with the Ce1??
I just put the tuner in the beginning of the chain. Not much thought put behind it. 🤷♂️
Boss DS2 + Big MUFF + Fuzz Rite Stiched ON at the same time?! and no Noise!!!! which power suplly are you using?
thats due to the ce-1 pre-amp chip in the pastfx model.
@@hertderg12 I have the Triungulo Version of that Preamp. And I still cant understand, how with that 3 High gain pedals on at the same time, the Noise Ratio its so good.
@@gonzalodiazgallardo9540 you have the signal chain in correct order with an individual power supply for the triangulo?
@@hertderg12 Yes, same chain order... And the triungulo has the same supply, but isolated from other pedals.
Very nice! Do you know what is your dB level when playing? Looks like you turn your amps a bit.
Don’t worry they are attenuated. xD
@@Vigi i did use marshall powerbrake on my 1987 silver jubilee, but nothing like when the speakers push that air :)
Yep that’s special! 😍
What song is playing at minute 1:30?
It's just something I made up. Wanna avoid those copyright strikes, haha. xD
So how o you get the chorus ensemble?