You gotta wonder, if a standard Dalek just found a way to paint itself, could it trick other Daleks into thinking it's a higher rank? (At least for a little while?)
Did you know in early plans for Remembrance of the Daleks the Imperial Daleks were supposed to be Red Daleks whilst the Renegades were going to be blue. That would have changed the hierarchy of what different colours meant. No long a rank but a different faction.
Red Daleks are super cool and it’s a real shame that they weren’t in the Classic series but did appear in the Peter Cushing Dalek Movies despite not been cannon to the series itself. However I would like to see a new type of the Red Dalek for the new RTD era. 🙂
I have seen a Red Dalek, with Gold Hemispheres. Can't remember where though. Also, I have seen the, original Saucer Commander from Dalek Invasion of Earth B&W serial re coloured. But its Hemispheres remained Pale Blue, but with a hint of opalescence.
I hope that the Daleks start to appear in a more militaristic way as they did in classic doctor who like in the story of Rememberance of the Daleks. Hopefully we get to see the Red, Gold & Black colours of daleks & maybe a bit of a change from the bronze daleks that have become a bit over used I feel like adding back colours for ranks would make them stand out more as they have been in use as long as the old grey ones where in classic who.
Red Dalek, were always Space Craft Commanders. Cruisers, Battlecruisers, Battleship, Assault Carrier, are all have a Red Dalek as their commanding officer. **** PS. They were the ones you could climb inside at the Seaside amusements.
In the Peter Cushing movies, the Red Dalek appears to take the role of Saucer Commander, but in the TV series, Saucer Commanders are usually depicted as being black and silver. The comics and novels usually depict red Daleks as interim commanders, higher in rank than Drones but still subordinate to Black Daleks and Gold Daleks
@@dalekbumps The reason they weren't Saucer Commanders in the TV series was B&W TV. We had a long clash on Wikipedia some years ago over the TV Saucer Commanders livery.
If I remember correctly, it was once stated that the lack of red Daleks was due to the Daleks not being able to see red... might be misremembering something though I dunno. In reality I think it was explained away to keep the Amicus films separate from the TV series.
So Paradigm Drones fill both the section leader function as older red daleks and the more variable rank of black domed Daleks. If the Paradigm had a lower rank that wasn't just the Time War model, I wonder what color it'd be... OR, since the Paradigm were based on the Movie Daleks, what if instead of Time War models they employed the Movie model. But would they go with the first or second version? The second has solar panels, but with the Dalek Prime Strategist we know solar panels can be redundant, and the Paradigm, or at least how I interpreted it, combine the solar panels with the shoulder/arm slats.
I’d love for you to elaborate on Dalek alpha as it’s an Interest of mine due to my Children of the Revolution set I showed in the TH-cam video I tagged you in
Of the various Dalek colors, red is my least favorite design, though I can’t really say why. As an aside, having various ranks literally be called “[color] Dalek“ always felt lazy to me, compared to actual titles like strategist, commander, or supreme; it’s like using the prop names in-universe
@@LateBloomingRosebud Only partially successful. Actually, I was referring to the 1960s Dalek annual which clearly states that Daleks cannot see the colour red. Much to the amusement of Nick Briggs.
Look I know the Paradigms kinds of fumbled, but I do wish we didn't through the idea of dalek ranks and colours out entirely. I love the Time War Daleks, they're what I grew up with, but it's just not special when they all look the bloody same.
I dont think it was ever thought the dalek masterplan supreme was supposed to be red was it? If its just a misunderstanding due to the cover art from mutation of time by john peel, that Dalek is supposed to be the time squad leader who pursues the tardis through time and space for the terranium. Its made very clear in the book that its subordinate to the black supreme.
@@dalekbumps but that cover art never implies that the dalek supreme in DMP is red. Its an entirely different dalek the one who goes to egypt etc which ironically was a standard silver in the televised version.
@@Solidsnakeprime501 fair enough, I always assumed it was supposed to be the Supreme. Either way there's a red Dalek there in one version of the story and no red Dalek in the other
@@dalekbumps ahhh i see i didnt realise you hadn't read the novel! Sorry if i came across as stern! People do seem to get confused by the cover but yes the red dalek in the novel is the time squad commander, subordinate to the black supreme.
@@Solidsnakeprime501 no worries, I'll have to do a video on that at some point because I always thought that the cover artist assumed that the Black Dalek from The Daleks' Master Plan was a Red Dalek, easy mistake to make since the serial is in black-and-white. It's interesting that they added another subordinate Dalek rank to the story in the novel, as the same thing happens in the novelisation of Day of the Daleks, apparently a Black Dalek acts as a subordinate to the Gold Dalek
Anyone who has ever wanted to be a dalek would want to be a black dalek. The emperor always fudged his decisions, and the red daleks are right losers 😂
0:15 "Why are you speaking in comic sans?"
My favorite Dalek line ever.
You gotta wonder, if a standard Dalek just found a way to paint itself, could it trick other Daleks into thinking it's a higher rank? (At least for a little while?)
I mean the higher ranks have different material then normal casing so probably just scan the dalek seeing its fake
Are Dalek casings painted? I figured it was based on whatever metal they used that denoted colour.
@@minicle426 I think so, but that doesn't matter to my base question.
Maybe red is just their version of Red Oxide undercoat to prevent rusting 😉
But one then figured how cool they looked and decided to stick with it 😁
I've always wondered this
Did you know in early plans for Remembrance of the Daleks the Imperial Daleks were supposed to be Red Daleks whilst the Renegades were going to be blue.
That would have changed the hierarchy of what different colours meant. No long a rank but a different faction.
Red Daleks are super cool and it’s a real shame that they weren’t in the Classic series but did appear in the Peter Cushing Dalek Movies despite not been cannon to the series itself. However I would like to see a new type of the Red Dalek for the new RTD era. 🙂
Great video. I love it. Red Daleks look really cool. Please do a video on Green Daleks?
0:15 i love this image XD
I have seen a Red Dalek, with Gold Hemispheres. Can't remember where though.
Also, I have seen the, original Saucer Commander from Dalek Invasion of Earth B&W serial re coloured. But its Hemispheres remained Pale Blue, but with a hint of opalescence.
I hope that the Daleks start to appear in a more militaristic way as they did in classic doctor who like in the story of Rememberance of the Daleks. Hopefully we get to see the Red, Gold & Black colours of daleks & maybe a bit of a change from the bronze daleks that have become a bit over used I feel like adding back colours for ranks would make them stand out more as they have been in use as long as the old grey ones where in classic who.
Red Daleks are so underrated ❤️
For real
Of course we all know the most important red Dalek ever was the prop Terry Nation had with the red dome
Red Dalek, were always Space Craft Commanders.
Cruisers, Battlecruisers, Battleship, Assault Carrier, are all have a Red Dalek as their commanding officer.
****
PS.
They were the ones you could climb inside at the Seaside amusements.
In the Peter Cushing movies, the Red Dalek appears to take the role of Saucer Commander, but in the TV series, Saucer Commanders are usually depicted as being black and silver. The comics and novels usually depict red Daleks as interim commanders, higher in rank than Drones but still subordinate to Black Daleks and Gold Daleks
@@dalekbumps The reason they weren't Saucer Commanders in the TV series was B&W TV.
We had a long clash on Wikipedia some years ago over the TV Saucer Commanders livery.
My Dad told me when I watched the Dalek films as a boy that red daleks were female daleks.
Are you going to do a sophisticated video on the Dalek hierarchy?
If I remember correctly, it was once stated that the lack of red Daleks was due to the Daleks not being able to see red... might be misremembering something though I dunno. In reality I think it was explained away to keep the Amicus films separate from the TV series.
So Paradigm Drones fill both the section leader function as older red daleks and the more variable rank of black domed Daleks. If the Paradigm had a lower rank that wasn't just the Time War model, I wonder what color it'd be...
OR, since the Paradigm were based on the Movie Daleks, what if instead of Time War models they employed the Movie model. But would they go with the first or second version? The second has solar panels, but with the Dalek Prime Strategist we know solar panels can be redundant, and the Paradigm, or at least how I interpreted it, combine the solar panels with the shoulder/arm slats.
Now I really want an image of first Movie blue and yellow Daleks side by side with the Paradigm, preferably the new Reborn Variants!
Strange to tell about the daleks say Daleks can't see red so maybe the red daleks are just in camouflage
What about the red and black variant that was the talking palitoy dalek .?
My favourite colour of Dalek.
I’d love for you to elaborate on Dalek alpha as it’s an Interest of mine due to my Children of the Revolution set I showed in the TH-cam video I tagged you in
I plan to cover Dalek Alpha and the Humanised Daleks in a future video, it's on my list :)
@@dalekbumpsthank you so much I’m very interested
Those pictures of dalek models where do they come from
They come from the War of the Daleks tabletop game, which inspired a lot of my custom Classic Dalek figures
Of the various Dalek colors, red is my least favorite design, though I can’t really say why. As an aside, having various ranks literally be called “[color] Dalek“ always felt lazy to me, compared to actual titles like strategist, commander, or supreme; it’s like using the prop names in-universe
The red makes me think of all the red cars i saw in the 80s
INVISIBLE DALEKS!!! 🐙
@@LateBloomingRosebud Only partially successful. Actually, I was referring to the 1960s Dalek annual which clearly states that Daleks cannot see the colour red. Much to the amusement of Nick Briggs.
According to one of the 60s Dalek books, Daleks cannot see the colour red.
Look I know the Paradigms kinds of fumbled, but I do wish we didn't through the idea of dalek ranks and colours out entirely. I love the Time War Daleks, they're what I grew up with, but it's just not special when they all look the bloody same.
When supreme Daleks became red: we started from the bottom now we're here!
All the original red daleks
Cherry flavoured Daleks 😊
I'd say more strawberry flavored
The Comic Relief Daleks.
I dont think it was ever thought the dalek masterplan supreme was supposed to be red was it? If its just a misunderstanding due to the cover art from mutation of time by john peel, that Dalek is supposed to be the time squad leader who pursues the tardis through time and space for the terranium. Its made very clear in the book that its subordinate to the black supreme.
In-universe, no the Daleks' Master Plan Supreme is a Black Dalek, I just included that bit as a reference to the Mutation of Time cover art
@@dalekbumps but that cover art never implies that the dalek supreme in DMP is red. Its an entirely different dalek the one who goes to egypt etc which ironically was a standard silver in the televised version.
@@Solidsnakeprime501 fair enough, I always assumed it was supposed to be the Supreme. Either way there's a red Dalek there in one version of the story and no red Dalek in the other
@@dalekbumps ahhh i see i didnt realise you hadn't read the novel! Sorry if i came across as stern! People do seem to get confused by the cover but yes the red dalek in the novel is the time squad commander, subordinate to the black supreme.
@@Solidsnakeprime501 no worries, I'll have to do a video on that at some point because I always thought that the cover artist assumed that the Black Dalek from The Daleks' Master Plan was a Red Dalek, easy mistake to make since the serial is in black-and-white. It's interesting that they added another subordinate Dalek rank to the story in the novel, as the same thing happens in the novelisation of Day of the Daleks, apparently a Black Dalek acts as a subordinate to the Gold Dalek
We have a red dalek 😁
Revive the Reds!
Love a red Dalek, me.
Anyone who has ever wanted to be a dalek would want to be a black dalek. The emperor always fudged his decisions, and the red daleks are right losers 😂
Redshirt Daleks, if you get the reference
The red dalek is a kopite
My favourite colour of Dalek.