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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มี.ค. 2023
- Attack on Titan has been one of my favourites stories since it first aired back in 2013. Over the years, both the story itself & the discourse surrounding it has evolved tremendously. From unanimous praise, to constant back and forths, to the worst takes you'll ever see about a piece of fiction, AoT has seen it all.
Despite how much I love this story, I do find it quite daunting to dissect and discuss. There's so many moving parts, so many different angles to view things from, so many equally valid interpretations. And unfortunately, I'm overly self-critical when it comes to my own content. But I had to make this one happen. This video is far from perfect; there's hundreds of things that came to mind while editing that I'd love to have included but simply couldn't at that point. The audio is choppy & has a slight echo because I've recently moved into an office with poor soundproofing. The editing has its highs and lows because I poorly prepared and wanted to get this finished as soon as possible. But I'm still so glad I made it happen. I hope you guys enjoy this one and I look forward to creating more AoT videos over time.
Thanks for watching, as always.
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I want to add something to your conclusion: Isayama wants to show us how absolute freedom is unattainable, but that's why we should be enjoying the small positive things, as Armin said in chapter 137, and how he continues to seek for hope in chapter 139. I think it's one of the most important messages the manga gives. As Mikasa said several times: "The world is cruel, but also beautiful".
Absolutely agree. I feel like this was well worth mentioning in the video as they are counters to Eren's philosophy.
well if you factor in Eren's interview recently, he agrees with Armin and Mikasa in those regards. Plus, most obviously, Armin is able to seek for hope thanks to Eren's sacrifice.
Eren didn't want some absolute metaphysical freedom, he wanted to be free to do things to go places and not to be hindered by arbitary force. If he tried to go and see the sights he and armin dreamed of he would have been hunted down and killed by some outerworlder trying to take an uppity eldian down a peg.
@@GogetaEiyuuYamcha Eren should have succeeded in killing off everything outside of Paradis and then the timeskip ending shows that there is a civil war 100 years or 200 years later. There will always be war, no matter what you do. It doesn't even matter if you kill everyone outside of Paradis. More land and more greed, civil war. It shows Eren's decision was wrong in the end. There is no peace no matter what you do. Even if you kill everyone outside of Paradis, there will still be war and no peace. His friends children or grandchildren still die in the end. This depressing message would have been more better than the message that genocide makes peace last for 700 - 1000 years
i think the most tragic part of the story was that eren learned all of this when the end was near. Nothing could be said or done. it would happen and he couldn’t do anything about his predicament. and to find out his goal was unattainable from the very start. And learn the answer to what freedom is from armin in a simple and meaningful message. if people had the power of the founder we should be horrified and rightfully so. Everyone and i mean anyone could become eren. If the right circumstances are met anyone would use the rumbling in some sense of way.
This was one of the best analysis videos I've ever watched on AoT. Such an underrated gem of a channel.
Fiji added a philosopher quote because he knows every video essay that does that bangs. Anyways, good video
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You already know 👀, tbh though the quote is so perfect for Eren. Fits his character like a glove.
Yo! I recently moved into a new space which is quite big & pretty much empty at the moment, which is why the audio sounds choppy and has a slight echo. I did my best to make the audio sound as good as possible for now but I will be properly soundproofing the entire space and investing in a better microphone as soon as possible. With that being said, I hope you all enjoy this video!
Arrrmen
Great video man 👌🏾🔥
Amazing video and analysis!
The fact that they didn’t arrest this 9 year old murdering heathen who was WAY too comfortable after knifing 3 grown men to death . Is crazy.
just watching this video again, still cant get over the fact its gone
Great video!
Glad you like it!
"True freedom" is impossible for contingent beings--only God is truly free! Excellent video, looking forward to the next
I loved this video, probably my favorite video about Eren. Great job, I'd love to hear your thoughts on Made in Abyss
That’s huge praise, thank you!
MiA has always intrigued me with its fantasy setting & gorgeous artwork, I gotta try it out someday.
@@R7dman You definitely should, I'd say you should start with the anime then read the manga, can't recommend it enough. Again great video.
@@R7dman as someone who recently was traumatized I mean finished made in abyss I also support this
Incredible. Totally nailed it. 10/10 mate.
Thank you my man 🙏🏽
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Wow, this was topnotch - very well done and thanks for uploading this!
Nice video
Thank you!
Eren is a man child, he never grow up, dude is agresive and violent since he was a child.
By rewatching the show, you can tell that now, from ep1 he was like that and never changed.
And if he was really grown how he should have acted?
@@chandrabhushan8597 Not so emotional how he allways dose.
And, Itachi has the same thing going on, he to had to chose, who to kill.
But, as i know now, Yumir had pretty big power over Eren and pluss the Attack titans power, the more i think about it, the more it looks like Eren never was free and that he never had a chose, all he could do is sit and wait till it all ends
You didn't get the last episode
Eren never had a choice,he did everything so his friends would survive .By sending back memories to himself he won't deviate from that path,thats what the cabin scene is for ,to show you that hadn't eren attacked , Marley would destroy them
You must hate Paradis huh?
@@bt6322everyone has a choice. that’s the point.
this video explain you well why the concept of freedom in one piece might be fraudulent.
Can you elaborate
Freedom exists inside of a person
what is the backround music in 2:50 ?
What’s the song thats at end? The one with the soft piano?
Here to Stay by Shiro Sagisu for Bleach
As an Anarcho capitalist freedom is my ideology. AND you did a great job explaining it. Many get it wrong or are Ignorant. But like Always RadMan crushed.
Also being an American Freedom and property rights are Key to prosperity. A wise man know he's ignorant
gotta love the freedom to toil away, laboring under corporations my whole life😁
@@Brojector4exactly! I’ll always find people who call themselves “capitalists (any type)” funny because I’d bet my money that the person typing the comment ISN’T a capitalist… they’re a worker 😅 I understand that they mean that they agree with the ideology/ideologies BUT working class people calling themselves capitalists is hilariously twisted 😅
@DDoubleEDouble so many words to convey "I am an envious nihilistic asshole".
And yes, I own stock options, so I'm a capitalist according to both definitions. 😂
very based
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What is really important in all of this is that no recently born character was born from a titan shifter
Grisha is a titan shifter when eren is conceived.The attack titan's child basically
Why is this important
@@whycaninotfindagood its not
Freedom is❤❤❤❤❤ freedom is to live and live in harmony with others freedom is to live and eat with your family freedom is a right of being seen new things freedom is the way you live freedom is the right of using freedom is the breath you take in the morning freedom is the your open respect of your opinion at your individual❤❤❤❤
I find it pretty disturbing that people are aware of the canon of marley, its surrounding countries, the founding titan's power, etc, and still make video after video of how eren is childish and a slave to his concept of freedom, but dont ever mention the actual focus of the plot that makes all this brainwank irrelevant.
You idiots would call a rape victim a murderer if her assailant died when she protected herself, absolutely deplorable.
That's what I'm saying. Tf else are you even supposed to do in this situation besides *die*
what a great video
23:45
just one thing to correct in my opinion.
I think Eren wasn't able to make a choice in the end.
The power of the founder which basically made him omniscient ironically enough, enslaved him more than he thought he was. In attack on titan, Past, Present and Future already exists and anything in between cannot be changed. Whatever you do you will always arrive at the same end. Eren therefore was a character that believed in changing the future but was unable to exert his free will.
Everything he did was a fight against determinism so he is not a character that believes everything is set in stone.
In essence i think you had it backwards.
Nah he wanted it. He didn't want to desire it clearly, and felt guilty about it, but he always wanted to do it. He's a slave because he can't do anything about his distorted desire for freedom, and will always move towards it
@@enricodolci7560 just because he wanted it doesn’t mean there was a way to actually change it. He did mention that he tried to change it but sasha‘s death basically confirmed it for him.
Note that he only got the full power of the founding titan moments before the rumbling.
People act as if he had any control over his actions prior to that. After all, it was future eren with the founding titans powers who sent various people certain memories, so that past eren can take the same path.
As i mentioned, past present and future exist at the same time. Anything that will be already has been as well.
Meaning, someone who chases after freedom in that world… is the most ironic slave in existence.
Here’s a simpler example:
I want to shoot the football to score the winning goal. Another option would be to pass.
Future me sent me visions about me celebrating the goal with my team without showing me how.
Present me passes the ball and my friend shoots the goal. We celebrate.
It may seem like present me made the choice to pass, but in a deterministic world, the fact that the memory of a goal being shot in that moment is proof that whatever decision you made, was the decision that lead to that goal.
Tldr:
Those who see the future follow a yellow path that they cannot stray away from.
You tend to meet your destiny on the path you took to avoid it.
@@arrexu01 yeah I never said that he could've changed the future: but the future is the way it is because Eren's "nature" is the way it is, it's a logical consequence (like it should be in a deterministic world). If Eren did not actually want to do it, the future would've been different from the start. And I agree about the irony of it.
Lost my shit when i heard the rite of spring
Good video. Finally an aot fan who acc understands eren reads isayama interviews. However only difference here is i believe 139 was a retcon: eren always aimed to do a full rumbling not 80 percent. It seems his plan changed once he freed Ymir and knew mikasa would stop him
it isnt a rectcon perse, anyways 139 isnt perfect, ofcourse, but eren while deep inside him he wants to do a full rumbling he always know it isnt a solution, so intead of that, he desided to do the most damaged he could knowing that his friends will stop him
Eren said in 139 he wanted to go 100%, but he just wasn't able to go that far because he was stopped.
i think it may be pertaining to a certain theory. That this is a different timeline. the first was when he did 100%, the second was when he only did 80% and who knows how the anime ends it.
In essence that is the only thing that eren can change. Whether or not he goes full 100 or less
@@Mid7068 naruto and naruto
Why?
Eren did the rumbling cause freedom is based
And that is based
Wrong!
Eren was willing to die in the cave. If he so desired freedom to the point of destroying the world and that it is his nature then he wouldnt have wanted to die in the cave.
The way I see it, he hadn't kissed Historia's hand yet and therefore hadn't been shown the FULL scope of what he was capable of achieving. But in that moment, when he saw the past, present, and future as one, he finally understood his purpose and became more bent on achieving it than ever.
@@UchihaZoSo Yeah I think so as well. Eren always had that freedom goal in his head and was striving for it in seasons 1-3, but from the moment he kissed historia's hand, he actually realised and started to 'act' differently, and as you said understood his purpose and became more bent on achieving it than ever.
True
Eren totally did it as solution
Which is again stupid 😂
Eren wanted to die in the cave because he lost hope in himself. He believed that he was special in order for things to work out, developing a sort of messiah complex to the point of even losing the save value he once had in individual lives, accepting that people will just die for him.
He was willing to die after realizing he wasn't special and that he was just a byproduct of the slaughtering of a family.
To claim that he didn't want freedom when it's not only his main theme but the main theme encapsulated by everything he states throughout the timeskip is ridiculous
This is a very interesting interpretation. ☕
i hate you but i really like you as well, great vid, watch/read land of the lustrous
LMFAO thank you, HnK has been on my radar for a while 👀