Yo! everybody chill. I'm aware of the TD50. But I didn't have time to make a video about it for this sunday. I'm working on something right now. It should be released either tuesday or wednesday. Peace
I play bass guitar and sax. I've got the manual spindle version and it is by far more comfortable than a chair or stool for practicing. I even use it as a desk chair and it definitely has helped with my posture. But I agree in that I wouldn't use it to watch TV.
Agree in fact for guitar players as well can use one. The standard guitar seats are crap with zero support. I ended up buying a drum roc n soc throne because my ass was killing me after 10 minutes of seating on my cheap Fender guitar stool! My guitar teacher actually turned me onto the Roc n Soc drum throne for best comfort playing guitar! So even though it is geared for drummers these are fantastic also for guitar players who want to practice or jam in comfort for hours!
I have this throne and HOLY S**T do I love the thing!. I have a (sometimes) iffy lower back, but I can't remember ever needing that back rest...So, buy it ONLY if you know you're going to need it, otherwise, NO NEED. This thing's so comfortable that when the band goes on break, sometimes I don't even want to get up. I'm happy as a clam just chillin there until they get back. I never feel the need to get up and stretch or whatever do to discomfort from the throne, which is not something I can say about most of the old thrones I've had. The gas actuator is flawless and spectacular. I can't tell you how happy I am not to have to contort my body bending over, or get off the throne and get on my knees to adjust the height anymore, especially with as little room as us drummers have sometimes. That alone is worth $50 easy. I could go on and on... Whatever, just buy this thing already
Along with many other guitarists below, I too use one for my home music room. So-called "guitar stools" are all too tall and far too uncomfortable. To play guitar you need your legs (thigh) parallel to the deck (floor) at a minimum. I prefer a slightly higher knee. Whether I am playing acoustic or electric doesn't matter to me. On this seat I can easily reach my floor amp or adjust another amp without bending too far forward or reaching uncomforably which would happen if I am using a "guitar stool". I opted for the non-gas piston one. The seat still spins freely while the worm gear is locked in the height that I want. No guitar chair does that. I notice that drum thrones are about the same height as most Cajons are... coincidence? I think not 18" is a pretty good height for just about everybody for comfort.
+1,000,000!!!! I was using a throne that came with my DTX400, & it was terrible...I bought a Roc-N-Soc when I bought the DTX532K, & I just cannot believe the difference, actually, I cannot believe I used that cheap throne for so long... Highly recommended throne!!!
Everyone talks about equipment, but no one talks about the importance of a quality throne. It really is night and day difference when playing longer than a 1/2 hour practice in your basement. And has a greater impact the older you get.
Have that throne in blue, best investment ever. back support is a nice extra feature as you can lean into it and make sure that you're playing with good posture.
I have this same throne in blue, I bought it back in 09 as well and its held up great. You honestly can't put a price on your lower back and hips. Being able to play for extended periods of time and not have to feel sore and stiff afterwards.
I'm in dire need of a new throne and we have a pretty important show coming up in a few weeks,So my question is I'm 6ft 3 and weigh around 188lbs but I'm worried about the nitro "bounce" affecting my leg power. We're a metal band and I play alot of double bass and incorporate alot of blast beats,does this affect double bass playing or leg power at all or would you know? Because I'm trying to decide on either this or a Pork Pie and need to make a decision quick.Any help would be appreciated, Thanks
I use the Rok. Thing is I just had a spinal fusion. The Roc is a great thrown, but if you have a real bad back, not so much. They make a Carmichael that has got great reviews for people in my situation. I'm going to pick one up (as soon as I can)
I’ve heard a drummer who owned a similar drum throne which adjusted seat height with the lever/hydraulics (I believe hydraulic 🤔) however his complaint was that it bounced some while playing…..which he don’t like. It doesn’t sound like you’ve had this issue? Thanks I love these reviews. Drumming without a throne & sick of it (embarrassed to say how long I’ve done that).
Lucky for you guys living in us, i would love to try that out, the only think i dont like is in fact the hidraulics, they get used over time, leaking the inside gas and also i see this system more complicated to fit the perfect height if you need to, but the seat itself looks awsome!
If you had a choice between a behringer xd80usb or xd8usb whta would you choose? The budget is 300$ however I'm buying only for practice so should I get the slightly cheaper xd8usb and spend the rest on a throne or should I get the slightly more expensive drumset xd80usb. PS: it's great that you actually reply to comments:)
Hi Justin Can you please help me with the position of the backrest ??? Should it be plumb with the back of your bottom or out further? Please Great video
Hi, I've been interested in drums for a while, and watching your videos has been incredibly helpful to me. I had a Alesis dm6 briefly, than I trade it for a dm10 first model, then I sold it when met some life obstacles. Now I just got the alesis command X 9 from a sale during Xmas /New year and I'm torn. I'm a guitar player for 14 years but always wanted to play drums too. Since it's not my first instrument and I'm still too green, is that a decent drum kit for me to learn? Or if I can be patient and save up for a yamaha or Rolland would be better on the long run? I'm still under the 45 day return and I can return it. It was on sale for $649, now it's $799. I'd appreciate immensely if you could give me your thoughts on that matter. Thanks in advance for your help and for all the free knowledge and effort that you put energy into for completely strangers. All the best!! Ps I had an Amazon throne for 20 bucks before and couldn't practice for very long, made sense the video, whatever drum kit I end up with, I ll definitely get this drum throne
I just got mine on ebay for 185 pounds (250 Trump coins) second hand. I can't wait for it to arrive !!!!! Also, I have seen a shop which sells the roc n soc with a Gibraltar base as they assure it is better. What do you think pal?
I have lymphedema below the waist. So I’m at 400lbs,almost all of it in my legs. Do you think it’ll hold up? I think it being hydraulic might make it last longer? My pdp tractor seat had a pop metal base for the seat attachment and lasted no time. It was used,however. Everyone tells me pork pie if you’re fat,but logically an hydraulic should be stronger. Until there’s a cure for lymphedema,about 300lbs is probably as small as I can get. Thanks.
The Roc-n-Soc saddle seat throne is top quality for sure. However, I'm 5'10", 175lbs and I find it's just too big to be comfy. The bump in the front pushes on the family jewels and gets very uncomfy after about 30 minutes. I'm trying to decide between a Carmichael Throne or the Ahead Spinal-G. With the Carmichael, I only need to buy the seat top and can use all the great Roc-n-Soc hardware so, that's probably the way to go for me.
I'm still liking it alot, I've owned it since I was like 16 years old or something and it's still nice. Pork Pie is another great option, a bit more sink in to those. Ahead makes some nice ones. It just depends on what feels best to you, like a mattress
@@65Drums Thank you Justin! I bought a Roland TD50 kit thanks to all the info you put out. I'm very grateful. I am looking for something that doesn't sink in too much nothing more than half or maybe an inch max. Something like a DW5000 or 9000 throne. So I'd say firm or medium-firm. Does Roc and Soc or Sonor 4000 fit in that category? Any other recommendations are welcome :)
@@sarinsahil Yeah I'd say the Roc would fit that, I can't remember what sonor's feel like though. I would hit up a music store if possible to try a few out
Must get around to buying something like this. I currently use a cheaper Mapex and it's awful, not least because the adjustment screws tend to loosen as you play so you find yourself spinning around or gently lowering to the ground mid song.
I bought one in 2006 and sold it after financial issues a few years later...needless to say I regret selling that throne. I now have a Ludwig atlas its good but not a Roc-N-Soc.
Can someone please make a throne that doesn't swivel! They all come loose eventually after a few songs and it drives me crazy. This is the reason for my back issues
How can I find the best deals NEW on td17, Roland 200 amp, sennheiser headphones and roc n soc throne?! Guitar center can do 20% off just one of those items. They don’t stack coupons 😩
lmao me being a drummer using the dookiest spl drum throne for the first 2 years of me drumming and would have 5+ hour gigs and wouldn’t think anything bad, until after 6-7 hours it would hurt, and then i bought a nice quality mapex drum throne now that i have 8+ hour gigs and i go through the whole thing perfectly fine, most i’ve played was 10 hours in ONE day! 😂perks of being in a mexican band
There's a lever underneath your seat. You have to sit on the throne, and press it toward the underside of the seat. If you aren't sitting on the seat while you press the lever it won't move
Totally had to take your advice on this. I had a Tama standard throne which was great for about 20 seconds. I went with a Tama 1st chair. Almost identical to the roc n soc but with some added improvements.
You should always buy the best throne you can afford. Although, the gas mechanism of this throne is a bit of a bell and whistle. A spindle version of the same throne would be more reliable.
@@65Drums good to know they're quality. Found a seller on reverb, brand new with the backrest $295, I bought it. People are selling them used for 200 now
Hi Justin, Appreciate the vids. Ever thought about tossing one of those posture buttpad things on your throne while practicing? (like this: hiconsumption.com/2015/01/backjoy-sitsmart-posture-plus-seat/)
2 hour practice?! Man... Here's and example of me: Sit down at my set @ 10am. Look at clock @ 5pm & realize I'm late for work. I have to set alarms to make sure I stop playing after a reasonable time!!
ROC N SOC has been reducing the size of the metal base that is screwed and holds the plywood which in turn, holds the cushion. This makes the whole cushion more unstable, therefore, reduces the quality of the stool 👎👎👎 Don't be Roc N Suck
Thank you!! ...for getting right to the point. No background disco music, no rambling on and on. Just important facts. Very helpful.
Yo! everybody chill. I'm aware of the TD50. But I didn't have time to make a video about it for this sunday. I'm working on something right now. It should be released either tuesday or wednesday. Peace
I play bass guitar and sax. I've got the manual spindle version and it is by far more comfortable than a chair or stool for practicing. I even use it as a desk chair and it definitely has helped with my posture. But I agree in that I wouldn't use it to watch TV.
Agree in fact for guitar players as well can use one. The standard guitar seats are crap with zero support. I ended up buying a drum roc n soc throne because my ass was killing me after 10 minutes of seating on my cheap Fender guitar stool! My guitar teacher actually turned me onto the Roc n Soc drum throne for best comfort playing guitar! So even though it is geared for drummers these are fantastic also for guitar players who want to practice or jam in comfort for hours!
I have this throne and HOLY S**T do I love the thing!. I have a (sometimes) iffy lower back, but I can't remember ever needing that back rest...So, buy it ONLY if you know you're going to need it, otherwise, NO NEED.
This thing's so comfortable that when the band goes on break, sometimes I don't even want to get up. I'm happy as a clam just chillin there until they get back.
I never feel the need to get up and stretch or whatever do to discomfort from the throne, which is not something I can say about most of the old thrones I've had.
The gas actuator is flawless and spectacular. I can't tell you how happy I am not to have to contort my body bending over, or get off the throne and get on my knees to adjust the height anymore, especially with as little room as us drummers have sometimes. That alone is worth $50 easy. I could go on and on... Whatever, just buy this thing already
Along with many other guitarists below, I too use one for my home music room. So-called "guitar stools" are all too tall and far too uncomfortable. To play guitar you need your legs (thigh) parallel to the deck (floor) at a minimum. I prefer a slightly higher knee. Whether I am playing acoustic or electric doesn't matter to me. On this seat I can easily reach my floor amp or adjust another amp without bending too far forward or reaching uncomforably which would happen if I am using a "guitar stool". I opted for the non-gas piston one. The seat still spins freely while the worm gear is locked in the height that I want. No guitar chair does that. I notice that drum thrones are about the same height as most Cajons are... coincidence? I think not 18" is a pretty good height for just about everybody for comfort.
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+1,000,000!!!! I was using a throne that came with my DTX400, & it was terrible...I bought a Roc-N-Soc when I bought the DTX532K, & I just cannot believe the difference, actually, I cannot believe I used that cheap throne for so long...
Highly recommended throne!!!
you said it
best $150 I ever spent
Everyone talks about equipment, but no one talks about the importance of a quality throne. It really is night and day difference when playing longer than a 1/2 hour practice in your basement. And has a greater impact the older you get.
I’ve been practicing with a 20$ throne for years and practice sometimes for as long as 4 hours. Ouch
Have that throne in blue, best investment ever. back support is a nice extra feature as you can lean into it and make sure that you're playing with good posture.
yes!
3k SUBS!!!! Congrats man!
Thanks man! It's really starting to pick up! I'm getting 400 new subscribers a month now :)
I have this same throne in blue, I bought it back in 09 as well and its held up great. You honestly can't put a price on your lower back and hips. Being able to play for extended periods of time and not have to feel sore and stiff afterwards.
I can't agree more
I'm in dire need of a new throne and we have a pretty important show coming up in a few weeks,So my question is I'm 6ft 3 and weigh around 188lbs but I'm worried about the nitro "bounce" affecting my leg power. We're a metal band and I play alot of double bass and incorporate alot of blast beats,does this affect double bass playing or leg power at all or would you know? Because I'm trying to decide on either this or a Pork Pie and need to make a decision quick.Any help would be appreciated, Thanks
I use the Rok. Thing is I just had a spinal fusion. The Roc is a great thrown, but if you have a real bad back, not so much. They make a Carmichael that has got great reviews for people in my situation. I'm going to pick one up (as soon as I can)
What are you talking about? In curious, as I've got back issues
I’ve heard a drummer who owned a similar drum throne which adjusted seat height with the lever/hydraulics (I believe hydraulic 🤔) however his complaint was that it bounced some while playing…..which he don’t like. It doesn’t sound like you’ve had this issue? Thanks I love these reviews. Drumming without a throne & sick of it (embarrassed to say how long I’ve done that).
Worth the money. I have been using the same throne for 20 years and I can't using anything else
Lucky for you guys living in us, i would love to try that out, the only think i dont like is in fact the hidraulics, they get used over time, leaking the inside gas and also i see this system more complicated to fit the perfect height if you need to, but the seat itself looks awsome!
Does the bouncy nature of this throne work well for double bass? Thanks
Still sitting on my "free" drum throne from 20 years ago and my a** is killin me! Can't wait to get this one! :)
It's 100% worth upgrading
Also, every cheap throne I've had was squeaky as hell and ruined some recordings.
I forgot about that lol. I absolutely hate that. Its another reason to get a good drum throne.
@@65Drums Can you do an assembly video?
If you had a choice between a behringer xd80usb or xd8usb whta would you choose? The budget is 300$ however I'm buying only for practice so should I get the slightly cheaper xd8usb and spend the rest on a throne or should I get the slightly more expensive drumset xd80usb.
PS: it's great that you actually reply to comments:)
Hi Justin
Can you please help me with the position of the backrest ???
Should it be plumb with the back of your bottom or out further? Please
Great video
Hi, I've been interested in drums for a while, and watching your videos has been incredibly helpful to me.
I had a Alesis dm6 briefly, than I trade it for a dm10 first model, then I sold it when met some life obstacles.
Now I just got the alesis command X 9 from a sale during Xmas /New year and I'm torn. I'm a guitar player for 14 years but always wanted to play drums too.
Since it's not my first instrument and I'm still too green, is that a decent drum kit for me to learn? Or if I can be patient and save up for a yamaha or Rolland would be better on the long run? I'm still under the 45 day return and I can return it. It was on sale for $649, now it's $799.
I'd appreciate immensely if you could give me your thoughts on that matter.
Thanks in advance for your help and for all the free knowledge and effort that you put energy into for completely strangers.
All the best!!
Ps I had an Amazon throne for 20 bucks before and couldn't practice for very long, made sense the video, whatever drum kit I end up with, I ll definitely get this drum throne
I just got mine on ebay for 185 pounds (250 Trump coins) second hand. I can't wait for it to arrive !!!!! Also, I have seen a shop which sells the roc n soc with a Gibraltar base as they assure it is better. What do you think pal?
I have lymphedema below the waist. So I’m at 400lbs,almost all of it in my legs. Do you think it’ll hold up? I think it being hydraulic might make it last longer? My pdp tractor seat had a pop metal base for the seat attachment and lasted no time. It was used,however. Everyone tells me pork pie if you’re fat,but logically an hydraulic should be stronger. Until there’s a cure for lymphedema,about 300lbs is probably as small as I can get. Thanks.
I love your videos so much man!
The Roc-n-Soc saddle seat throne is top quality for sure. However, I'm 5'10", 175lbs and I find it's just too big to be comfy. The bump in the front pushes on the family jewels and gets very uncomfy after about 30 minutes. I'm trying to decide between a Carmichael Throne or the Ahead Spinal-G. With the Carmichael, I only need to buy the seat top and can use all the great Roc-n-Soc hardware so, that's probably the way to go for me.
What is the maximum height, in inches , this goes to, safely.
Would you still recommend getting a Roc n Soc Round Throne in 2023 or are there better alternatives? Thanks
I'm still liking it alot, I've owned it since I was like 16 years old or something and it's still nice. Pork Pie is another great option, a bit more sink in to those. Ahead makes some nice ones. It just depends on what feels best to you, like a mattress
@@65Drums Thank you Justin! I bought a Roland TD50 kit thanks to all the info you put out. I'm very grateful. I am looking for something that doesn't sink in too much nothing more than half or maybe an inch max. Something like a DW5000 or 9000 throne. So I'd say firm or medium-firm. Does Roc and Soc or Sonor 4000 fit in that category? Any other recommendations are welcome :)
@@sarinsahil Yeah I'd say the Roc would fit that, I can't remember what sonor's feel like though. I would hit up a music store if possible to try a few out
@@65Drums Thank you! I appreciate your feedback. The new studio looks great. It makes me happy to watch your channel grow. :)
@@sarinsahil thanks man! :)
Does your Roc and Soc still work? My Ahead 200 dollar throne just broke on my after a year.
It's still going strong man, and I don't even know how old it is anymore
@65Drums sweet I just bought a green one.
Must get around to buying something like this. I currently use a cheaper Mapex and it's awful, not least because the adjustment screws tend to loosen as you play so you find yourself spinning around or gently lowering to the ground mid song.
That's why I hate spindle style drum thrones. They take longer to adjust and sometimes move down without me wanting it.
I bought one in 2006 and sold it after financial issues a few years later...needless to say I regret selling that throne. I now have a Ludwig atlas its good but not a Roc-N-Soc.
Can someone please make a throne that doesn't swivel! They all come loose eventually after a few songs and it drives me crazy. This is the reason for my back issues
I’m tired of crappy cheap thrones for 25 years. I’m going to buy this. A lot of them are also short for me at 6’1”.
I found it brand new on eBay for 150
I think you might be able to find an even better price if you look long enough.
do a review on the td 50 new release can't wait!!
I'm working on it
Is it tall enough or did you need to buy the extended version?
Didn't even know there was an extended version. I'm 6'6' and this works fine for me
@@65Drums thank you
ok .. sold.. just ordered one to pick up at Guitar Center after noon.
How can I find the best deals NEW on td17, Roland 200 amp, sennheiser headphones and roc n soc throne?! Guitar center can do 20% off just one of those items. They don’t stack coupons 😩
Kraftmusic.com
Thx so much
lmao me being a drummer using the dookiest spl drum throne for the first 2 years of me drumming and would have 5+ hour gigs and wouldn’t think anything bad, until after 6-7 hours it would hurt, and then i bought a nice quality mapex drum throne now that i have 8+ hour gigs and i go through the whole thing perfectly fine, most i’ve played was 10 hours in ONE day! 😂perks of being in a mexican band
Wow! Just goes to show spending money on any good drum throne is usually worth it
how solid is the foam..I hate it when they bottom out...its painful
I play every day for about 2 hrs minimum and I have really bad back pain will this help?
Get a bicycle. Will help your back but you need to put hours in cycling. Worked for me
I can’t adjust the height of the standard nitro roc n soc... can you make a vid of how to adjust its height?
There's a lever underneath your seat. You have to sit on the throne, and press it toward the underside of the seat. If you aren't sitting on the seat while you press the lever it won't move
Are you going to buy or review the Roland td50?
I'm thinking about it. But Its incredibly expensive
Totally had to take your advice on this. I had a Tama standard throne which was great for about 20 seconds. I went with a Tama 1st chair. Almost identical to the roc n soc but with some added improvements.
A nice drum throne from any company is absolutely worth the money. I don't want to be in pain every time I play hahaha
Yeah I need to get one someday!
Its absolutly worth
That looks like an awesome drum thrown!
Its really comfortable
not sure whether this is a genius or an idiotic remark
Don't drums get really damaged when they're thrown?
Pls dont throw your drums, friend
I just ordered the DW 9000 air lift throne DWCP9100AL
sweet
my drum kit budget has just gone up £150 - this is getting expensive..
haha well if you wanna get the best ;)
You should always buy the best throne you can afford. Although, the gas mechanism of this throne is a bit of a bell and whistle. A spindle version of the same throne would be more reliable.
I'm not sure why you say it's not as reliable. The gas mechanism has worked fine for me for years.
And it's alot faster to adjust
The issue primarily is that you lose all of the adjustment if the mechanism fails, which is not something you have to worry about on a spindle throne.
out of 10 stars how would you rate this drum throne?
+VeltriDrummer it's a 9
65 Drums why is there not 10 what's wrong with it?
I got my Roc-N nitro Hydralic Thorne Red today 🏁🎼
You'll love it.
Flash forward to 2022 - $205'ish + $60'ish for back rest.
You say high. Could you measure and give us an actual inch number? Or too much trouble.
Will buy. Hope its not Rock n Suck...
100% agree
They've gone up a lot ($225)
Yeah it sucks :(
Them prices sound nice
yeah. this video is super old
Just 2 hours practice?
lol
Lol, not gonna lie, I was going to mention the TD 50 but I was beat to it lol.
You gotta be fast around here lol
+Justin Greenawalt Lol
These are $325 on sweetwater now and the backrest is $70
Wow that sucks. Glad mine is still going strong at 10 years old
@@65Drums good to know they're quality. Found a seller on reverb, brand new with the backrest $295, I bought it. People are selling them used for 200 now
Nice
I feel like I know you from somewhere
TD50!!!!!!!
Hi Justin,
Appreciate the vids.
Ever thought about tossing one of those posture buttpad things on your throne while practicing? (like this: hiconsumption.com/2015/01/backjoy-sitsmart-posture-plus-seat/)
Thanks man! Nah I've never thought of it. (btw, I had to fish this comment out of the spam folder, youtube hids comments with links in them)
Ahh, I'll try and keep that in mind next time I comment. I might give it a try just to experiment and I'll update if I do.
2 hour practice?! Man... Here's and example of me: Sit down at my set @ 10am. Look at clock @ 5pm & realize I'm late for work.
I have to set alarms to make sure I stop playing after a reasonable time!!
+RUSH GEEK that's hard-core
you need to get serious and give up that job.. : )
ROC N SOC has been reducing the size of the metal base that is screwed and holds the plywood which in turn, holds the cushion. This makes the whole cushion more unstable, therefore, reduces the quality of the stool 👎👎👎 Don't be Roc N Suck
Pre-Biden pricing!
Drums were expensive as crap under trump as well, i witnessed those china tariffs effecting the drum industry first hand
Don’t buy china crap