Nice conversation - although I wish Suther was given more time to speak! I feel like he still had a lot more to say about Lacan and the Left. The possibility that Freud formulated the concept of superego in order to prevent psychoanalysis from being associated with Bolshevism is very interesting (46:00). Adorno says that the concept of the superego is a reactionary and arbitrary interruption of psychoanalytic enlightenment. He discusses this in Negative Dialectics and also in one of his essays on psychology and sociolgy. People tend focus on his defense of Freud against ego psychology and revisionist neofreudianism, but he had some harsh points to make about Freud himself, from a Marxist perspective. His criticism of Freud as anti-Marxist applies for Lacan - Lacan is actually much worse because he doesn't even see alienation as something negative that therapy should alleviate. The claim about the role Bion played in defeating Nazism is a good example of the ridiculous self-serving nonsense psychoanalysts love to say (51:20). Lula didn't study with Guattari (?!?!) - he actually never went to College and didn't finish basic education. Guattarri only interviewed him once. Lula is 100% indifferent to post-structuralism (1:17:10).
Not sure if alienation can be alleviated by therapy lol. Alienation - (when the capitalist expropriates the workers product of labour, enforced by law, and the worker is only paid wages.) Maybe the alienation of the capitalist can be alleviated, the capitalist whose life is also dominated by money, but simultaneously the capitalist has more domination over money than the working-class, and as follows the domination over the working-class itself.
9:20 But have you heard what (the incontestably Marxist) Kojève supposedly said about the 68 protests... I mean the whole thing was a Herbert Marcuse (cia) project (failed from the get-go), students are not the revolutionary subject (students have no steak in production, student labour is not socially necessary for the economy, the economy is fine without them). * 1:20:25 you agree with this somewhat. The proletariat is not a standpoint of bourgeois identity, but a material-relation. 20:13 So Pippin's critique of Kojève amounts to Kojève not being enough of a bourgeois academic? While Kojève writes about what matters, material reality, Hegel often focuses on sort of a ‘pure-thought’ abstracted away from reality, so Pippin bemoans Kojève not being orthodox to Hegel? While Kojève focuses on society, Hegel cares about the individual, consciousness, mind, etc. The whole point of only focusing on the individual is to negate focus on society (capitalist logos). This is just Martin Luther's protestant project of purifying Christianity (or Hegel), faith alone, no reality, etc. etc.
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Nice conversation - although I wish Suther was given more time to speak! I feel like he still had a lot more to say about Lacan and the Left.
The possibility that Freud formulated the concept of superego in order to prevent psychoanalysis from being associated with Bolshevism is very interesting (46:00). Adorno says that the concept of the superego is a reactionary and arbitrary interruption of psychoanalytic enlightenment. He discusses this in Negative Dialectics and also in one of his essays on psychology and sociolgy. People tend focus on his defense of Freud against ego psychology and revisionist neofreudianism, but he had some harsh points to make about Freud himself, from a Marxist perspective. His criticism of Freud as anti-Marxist applies for Lacan - Lacan is actually much worse because he doesn't even see alienation as something negative that therapy should alleviate.
The claim about the role Bion played in defeating Nazism is a good example of the ridiculous self-serving nonsense psychoanalysts love to say (51:20).
Lula didn't study with Guattari (?!?!) - he actually never went to College and didn't finish basic education. Guattarri only interviewed him once. Lula is 100% indifferent to post-structuralism (1:17:10).
Not sure if alienation can be alleviated by therapy lol. Alienation - (when the capitalist expropriates the workers product of labour, enforced by law, and the worker is only paid wages.) Maybe the alienation of the capitalist can be alleviated, the capitalist whose life is also dominated by money, but simultaneously the capitalist has more domination over money than the working-class, and as follows the domination over the working-class itself.
9:20 But have you heard what (the incontestably Marxist) Kojève supposedly said about the 68 protests... I mean the whole thing was a Herbert Marcuse (cia) project (failed from the get-go), students are not the revolutionary subject (students have no steak in production, student labour is not socially necessary for the economy, the economy is fine without them). * 1:20:25 you agree with this somewhat. The proletariat is not a standpoint of bourgeois identity, but a material-relation.
20:13 So Pippin's critique of Kojève amounts to Kojève not being enough of a bourgeois academic? While Kojève writes about what matters, material reality, Hegel often focuses on sort of a ‘pure-thought’ abstracted away from reality, so Pippin bemoans Kojève not being orthodox to Hegel? While Kojève focuses on society, Hegel cares about the individual, consciousness, mind, etc. The whole point of only focusing on the individual is to negate focus on society (capitalist logos). This is just Martin Luther's protestant project of purifying Christianity (or Hegel), faith alone, no reality, etc. etc.