So, first this was a great discussion and everyone brought interesting and engaging points to the conversation. That's one. Two, given the apparent composition of this chat, it's not an ambiguous position communists in the United States and Canada should have in regards to the Ukraine-Russia War. That is to say, absolute defeat of the Ukraine AND MORE IMPORTANTLY the immediate cessation of aid, intelligence, and support for Ukraine from the United States, Canada, and Western Europe. I highly recommend comrades read the KKE's statement on the matter. Still, great job everyone and thank you.
Citation please for 46:35 : "Losurdo chastized a lot of Marxists during the civil rights movement in the United States for criticizing like wealthy kids from the North going down to the South to support this civil rights struggle." Can't find it, thank you.
@@emancipations No such mention. What is said on that page is that Communists were important in the process of forcing desegregation. You must be mistaken in the page, or the book/article. Please correct yourself.
@@seth8089 See page 99 and 100 for further elucidation on the point in relation to Tronti's conception of workerism. The point on the American civil rights movement is also one that is made in comparison to Soviet Marxism as at the vanguard of the civil rights movement, he compares the relative absence of writing by Horkheimer on that movement for example. And he links that to the absence of colonial thinking in his work. But the first page I cited is related to this point. And your comment in the other video about China is dumb as hell no one is paid by China here
@@seth8089 I did not delete any comment on this point - the statement I made relates to Tronti's workerism and to the US civil rights as an example. Both the role of the Soviets in that context and the point about Tronti's workerism is what I was referring to.
40:00 Conrad on platypus
So, first this was a great discussion and everyone brought interesting and engaging points to the conversation. That's one. Two, given the apparent composition of this chat, it's not an ambiguous position communists in the United States and Canada should have in regards to the Ukraine-Russia War. That is to say, absolute defeat of the Ukraine AND MORE IMPORTANTLY the immediate cessation of aid, intelligence, and support for Ukraine from the United States, Canada, and Western Europe.
I highly recommend comrades read the KKE's statement on the matter.
Still, great job everyone and thank you.
What is kke when you said to read it?
@45:00 it is factually true, and there is plenty of evidence in the historical record.
Citation please for 46:35 :
"Losurdo chastized a lot of Marxists during the civil rights movement in the United States for criticizing like wealthy kids from the North going down to the South to support this civil rights struggle."
Can't find it, thank you.
See Western Marxism pg. 220
@@emancipations No such mention. What is said on that page is that Communists were important in the process of forcing desegregation. You must be mistaken in the page, or the book/article.
Please correct yourself.
@@seth8089 See page 99 and 100 for further elucidation on the point in relation to Tronti's conception of workerism. The point on the American civil rights movement is also one that is made in comparison to Soviet Marxism as at the vanguard of the civil rights movement, he compares the relative absence of writing by Horkheimer on that movement for example. And he links that to the absence of colonial thinking in his work. But the first page I cited is related to this point. And your comment in the other video about China is dumb as hell no one is paid by China here
@@emancipations Why did you delete the other comment pointing out the (still undisputed) lack of connection between the cited page and your claim?
@@seth8089 I did not delete any comment on this point - the statement I made relates to Tronti's workerism and to the US civil rights as an example. Both the role of the Soviets in that context and the point about Tronti's workerism is what I was referring to.