378 RSW Epiphone Triumph Binding Restoration P1
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- This old warhorse will require a tremendous amount of TLC to put it back on the road. Watch this multi part series to see what it took.
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I thoroughly enjoyed watching the challenging repairs so far. I could watch you scrape away old glue all day long!
Thanks for the video. I'm stuck at home due to a stay-at-home order from my state's governor, so having something to watch helps with the cabin fever. I think you'll enjoy playing this old Epiphone when you finish it up. Don't worry about the trolls. Every channel I've visited so far has had an uptick in trolls since people have had to stay inside more. It's sad that people can't find anything better to do than spew a bunch of crap to inflate their egos.
I just want to say thank you! I've learned so much from your videos. I think the most important thing I've learned is patience. You have more of that than anyone I know! Your attention to details is amazing and I've been trying to apply that to my projects and be more patient with things to get the best results. Thanks again!👍😎🎸🎶
ahh yess , the legendary Epiphone ' Frequensator' tailpiece
Jerry,I've been so busy I've missed a good 5,6,weeks of your videos,but finally I'm catching up,and I'm loving this one
Hey Jerry, thank you for another great video! I think it a positive that you try new things and do it a little differently. I was becoming a purist when it came to glues and particularly liked the hide glues and you set me strait over a year ago by patiently answering my questions and proveing me wrong with your videos. Thank you!
Another video where you can only learn. I am always happy to understand your comments, even though my English is very bad. But your videos are getting better and better. Putting so much patience into a video is fantastic. with us here in old Germany you won't get anything like that. So much input for the repair of a guitar is unique to me. Our disposable society should take an example from you and the self-build guitar builders can only learn through you. Thank you, I will remain your fan. Greetings from Germany
Great job, Jerry!
Waiting for Part II !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jerry thanks so much for not cramming the entire repair into a single video. I know it's a bunch of work making series videos but I sure enjoy watching them in as much length as reasonable.
The New York Epiphones were great sounding guitars.Gibson bought them out began making them in Kalamazoo,I found a new york epiphone blonde acoustic in the early 70's and it sounded SO good.Wish I had kept it.The Luthiers were masters.
I sure wish you'd learn something from all these armchair Luthier's out here that learned everything they know from their recliner, on youtube, lol. Blow off the Trolls, if you ignore them, you take the only thing they really want ATTENTION. I love watching you work, and explain what you do, and why you do it. Thank You for what you do. I'd also like to ask you to recommend a good brand name of Analog Caliper. I'm tired of dealing with digital ones that keep failing after a year or two, Thank You in advance.
Igaging makes really good tools.
@@RosaStringWorks Thank You kindly, I will check them out.
Amazing work! Your patience and skill is incredible. I’m looking forward to watching this restoration. That poor old guitar was one step away from the dumpster. It’s a shame that it was left neglected in a garage for years but if anyone make it sing again you’re the man.
I dont know what it is exactly but there is something quite chilled...and mesmerising about spending an hour watching Mr RSW fix them ol Guitars........peace.
Jerry The first guitar I owned was a 1946 Kalamazoo F hole Archtop. Dad gsve it to me in 1949.
I hated that guitar cuz it had no volume. Good to see you were successful with your luthier
talents. Hi 5 from Texas
What a great faith in you Jerry . Worth it old epiphone.triumph........ yup good sound. Be good as new .👍
Hey Jerry
Hello from SF Bay Area.
For all of us "sheltered in place", your video's are helping to keep our sanity.
Look forward to watching you work.
But that darn "echo"! 😉
I don't hear any Echo at all
Hey Jerry, I wouldn't worry too much about the trolls. The guys that send you work know what to expect and that's what really matters. I really enjoy your videos.
Haha.. AVE.. love that guy. Fabracoble that stuff up. It's going to be great!
46:45, one of my dad's favorite expressions. "I thought I made a mistake, but I was wrong." Good timing, Jerry. I've got to take the back off a mandolin and I'll need to know how to do this. As always, thumbs up to crush a troll.
Glad I'm not the only one who wanders around with the tag inside my Levi's hanging out. :-) Thanks as always for sharing your talent, Jerry; looking forward to the next 2 chapters. Hope you and Mrs. Rosa are well and staying that way.
For me,as a fellow Luthier it's always a pleasure watching you work Jerry
Thumbs up before I ever watch your videos, seeing as how I know I’m in for a treat.
Me too.
Awesome work as usual Mr. Rosa :)
These are great to watch. Thanks for posting.
reminds me of my 38 Gretsch New Yorker!
Fender and Epiphone should get together and make a Telephone.
@ross reed Hello!
Lol - that's a good one.
LOL
An Epidermis.
I'm working on a promotional video much like this. I love these old old guitars! good work!
Nice instructional video.
Really good work!
Fantastic Jerry. I'm going to watch this with a cup of tea and a cuddle with my cat. All the best from locked down England
Real nice Epi cain´t wait to see the end results.
In the early 1960s, the Frequensator tailpiece was touted as a means to adjust tone and touch to accommodate playing style and music style. I hope that a replacement is available! Great work as always, Jerry.
Wow i never thought i would find binding so interesting and on what should be a great old guitar, i can't wait for the rest of this series..
I love how handmade this guitar is. Just imagine in the 1930s, when the person making it was just eyeballing it on measurements.
I saw a guy eyeball a mandolin top once. Got it pretty darn close with no caliper in sight.
Well that was an enjoyable video... She is looking better already. Should be a winner when completed..tks for share
For me, this is a very interesting video - series! I have a 68 model Gretsch 6122 that has some binding Roth.
I am of course afraid of attempting to fix it, but with the help of Jerry's videos, I must give it a go.
In this work challenging video, I'm kind of relaxing when the music continues to play, then we can breathe for a moment.
Love those old archtops.
I have a 1988 Epi Sheraton that has a very similar staggered tailpiece. That's a beautiful guitar you got there Jerry. Proper job.
Thank you sir.
And how is yours set up? Are the bass or treble strings longer?
@@Greg042869 Treble strings longest, Apparently tailpiece on mine was originally from a 1970s EA225. Bridge isn't original either.
@@Peasmouldia Interesting. Another in the comments says his was set up the other way. I wonder if someone from the factory could be questioned.
@@Greg042869 Some of the 70s Japanese made ones vary a lot, and so does the quality. Those guitars had bolt on necks and terrible pick ups. Mines later and originally had a Bigsby. Previous owner fitted the tailpiece and bridge, so I'm only guessing that it came from a 70s Casino.
That was lovely work on the binding, I can't wait to see the transformation as it progresses! Thanks for posting Jerry.
TIP: If you stick the tape to the rug surface that you work on, it takes about 50% of the stickiness away from the tape (the rug fibers act like a buffer) you should have less finish tear-out.
Nice guitar! Nice episode. Thanks!
What a task! I'm on the edge of my seat as usual! Looking forward to No.2.
Great work on the guitar! The video editing feels like it has too many cuts and short parts. Might want to work on that. Keep up the good work. Love your content. Always inspiring!
Why is this one so satisfying? Great job.
My old pappy had an Epiphone Broadway about the same vintage! He used to play in same vintage as the one you are working on... I'll send you a photo!
ive used Holly wood which is uniformly white for my binding replacements and i machine it to dimensions with great sucess!!
As always a great deal of attention to detail, stuff that you see is missed by me and your knowledge is incredible, I often tell people I am not clever, I have just been around long enough to learn from my mistakes and from others, !
Just what I need to learn i.e. how to redo the binding on my old 1977 Ibanez 527 Mandolin. The mandolin has binding rot, I bought it used years ago and had not been taken care of.
Awesome, really looking forward to the rest of this series! Thanks for making these!
The 2 that are reversed are just pictures backwards, go with the 8/10!
Looking forward to the next instalment looks good so far! Great video Jerry
I would sue Epiphone for false warranty claims... lol
Love the guitar, amazing work as usual!! Be safe!!🤘🤘
Master Jerry 😎
have that exact tailpiece on my 2007 Epiphone Broadway archtop electric. The long side definitely goes on the lower strings not the treble strings.
Hello all this is my Great Great Grandpa’s guitar. I’m gonna play an original song so you can hear and see it in action. I am a multi genre recording artist and play metal/rock and pop music. Stay tuned!
Give us a Country song ole son, a Jimmie Rodgers tune or "Wildwood flower".
look on ebay for that tail piece You can find them but they are not cheap! allparts sells a repo it's not cheap either around 50 bucks they are called frequnsator tailpiece. if You think that one's in bad shape You should see My 1938 Triumph it's way bad, back severely cracked, top separating, top cracked near the bridge, all binding GONE, top separated from the sides in two or three spots and someone reglued it with I don't know what
Nice work Jerry, looking forward to seeing how it turns out!
BTW I just bought a Masrrbilt DR400..It holds its own at jam sessions against Martins, Collings
and a 1967 Yamaha FG180..But Id swap for the Yamaha any old day..And give some boot
Great work Jerry as usual can't wait for the rest of the restoration God bless my friend
Informative and enjoyable to watch.
Hey, Jerry. A neighbor threw away a very clean 1940 Epiphone Zephyr (blonde archtop with one pickup) in a Lifton case because, when he inherited it from his dad, some of the strings were broken! Wow. Cool guitar. This guy's dad had installed an early Bigsby tailpiece but otherwise original.
I hope you rescued it, even though it was worthless with broken strings. A big fix for someone :-)
All too believable. A friend pulled an old Framus from a skip back in the 70s. It had no strings and a couple of dodgy frets. A little fettling and it was fine. Currently a model of similar vintage on Reverb is £1800+.
My finger temperature gauge I used in the lab when checking transistors and such.
130F touch it and you can hold your finger on it for a pretty good while.
135F touch it and you are inclined to untouch it in a few seconds.
140F touch it and you snatch your finger back within a second.
145F touch it and you wished you hadn't.
And finally for transistors that were clearly over 145F.
Lick my finger and slap the part. If it hissed then it was over 212F. Which might be within the mfg specs but is just not a good idea to leave it that way for long. Change the design. We aren't shipping space heaters we're shipping radios.
I'm looking forward to seeing how this one turns out, i'm guessing it sounds cool too!
The trapeze tailpiece is available:
www.solomusicgear.com/product/solo-pro-epi-style-split-trapeze-guitar-tailpiece/
There may be other sellers. I just grabbed the first one I saw.
Ok, update. I just saw you already know that.
Amazing video Jerry.
Look on "Reverb" there are over 15 examples of the Triumph! Good Luck!
Jerry, I did a search of Google images for Epiphone Triumph. The pictures I saw were of a 1938, 1947, and 1961 guitar. They all showed the longer tail piece segment on the right (treble) side.
that tailpiece on the picture started probably its life as lefty
A real challenge !
Can't wait for the saga to continue...
can't WAIT to hear it
I can't wait to see this one done! I'm a big arch top fan, I currently have three. The thing about this one that is so cool is that Epi himself probably had a hand in it. I'll bet it's a wonderful thing to play and hear by the time you're done.
Don't you just hate it when tools grow feet and walk away in the middle of a job (rotten file!)? I've had more tools disappear right in front of my eyes, only to show up again right where I've been looking for ten minutes. Do they think I won't notice that they are gone? I just wonder where they have gone and what they're doing.
It's a space warp thing.
@@mikecurtin9831 Sock zone. Everything that disappears ends up there, if only for a short while before reappearing in this world. Some things never come back.
@@willmorrison1022 You're talking about missing socks from laundry? Sort of like the Twilight Zone. Makes sense to me. Thanks for the explanation. :-)
I figured out how I do this. I have a tool in my right hand, then I need another one so I switch the first one to the left hand, and if I already have something in the left hand I just drop it on the bench. Never to be seen again.
I had a Fiat Uno for a few years. I think it must have had a black hole in the cab - drop anything on the floor and its never seen again!
Factoid. This is a real Epiphone, which is why it is worth some dough. Gibson bought out Epiphone in 1957. It was then consigned to the poor end of the company. Now Epiphone is again being made in the US of A.
Mr Rosa I wonder if soaking the binding in coffee would make it look more aged and less white? Thank you so much for a very interesting video.
try grizzly imports for your Binding they may have the thickness you need .
fyi .. you have any feeler guages . find the one thick enough to press the tape under the fret board .. Jerry you remind me of my grandmother . with the hair dryer retort lol
ONCE AGAIN..... AMAZING !!!!
Very nice project I'm sure it will look awesome. I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to clean up the neck 5cleaning fingerboard and dressing frets) before to glue the binding on side of the neck ?
I don't see any difference.
allparts.com has the correct Frequensator tailpiece. George
If you're worried about tape on old finish, there is the traditional way of containing the binding which is to wrap the instrument in cotton rope (www.guitarrasfdc.com/2012/05/binding-using-hide-glue.html). That will keep it in place and protect the finish. I use surgical tubing when I wrap which puts pressure on the binding while holding it.
I've been using the cotton rope for 35 years.
Great old guitar. Very interested in how you handle the binding, particularly making the stark white binding match the older, aged amber shaded binding. I need to know....
👍🏼
I have a '54 Epiphone Zypher in the came boat, plus the neck fell off.
havin trouble with new style
I have no idea what you're talking about. Far as I know nothing has changed. This is an old video that's probably 2 years old.
@@RosaStringWorks Same here. The edits where you're speaking/thinking out loud, could use some natural silence pauses in between thoughts. It's unnatural and uncomfortable to listen to. Thanks for all you do, Mr.Rosa!!
@@RosaStringWorks Same here. The edits where you're speaking/thinking out loud, could use some natural silence pauses in between thoughts. It's unnatural and uncomfortable to listen to. Thanks for all you do, Mr.Rosa!!
How about a trick that linoleum installers used to use. Overlap the two materials and cut through both of them, A perfect joint results.
Too hard to cut through
Wow, now I can't wait to see the next episode. Inspiring to me don't know about anybody else I enjoy your videos, like I said you inspired me to buy my 1st acoustic and make it playable. And what chisels are they you use? Thanks and can't wait until the next video. 3 thumbs up if I could.
Perhaps this is a silly question, but why did you do the neck binding first before leveling and crowning the frets? Aren’t you making your job a bit more difficult that way? I have seen you working around stuff many times, but just because you can do it the hard way, don’t mean you have to. Unless the binding was done specially for the video. Are you going to bind around the F
hole? I also have noticed on your own guitars and mandolins you use wood binding, but on the customer instruments you use both types wood and plastic. Which is better? Which do you prefer? Good job as always, especially on the mitered corners
Plastic was used on this one originally so I'm using plastic just to try to make it look like original. Regarding doing it the hard way I can't tell a bit of difference. I'm not sure why it's any harder to do a front yard with binding on that it is without the binding
Thanks Jerry for shearing . I have a repair that I'm going to try. What make and type of tape do you use as not to ruin the finish?
It depends more on the finish and tape. Almost all tape will pull the finish off. Especially if the tape is strong and the finish is weak. I get my tape from Stuart Macdonald but it's probably not worth spending that kind of money
The binding for the neck. It is too tall and too thick, it has the wrong color, but it is perfect. 🤣
of that was in good condishion with that flipped around Tail piece would be a High Dollar get fiddle
That's a Frequensator tailpiece.
"Frequensator
By Sweetwater on Jul 3, 2007, 12:00 AM
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This particular tailpiece was designed in the 1930s by Guild associate Herb Sunshine and used on the majority of their upscale archtop guitars well into the 1970s, after the company was purchased by Gibson in 1958. The Frequensator allows for a longer string length on the three bass strings and a shorter length on the three treble strings. The original had a nasty habit of cracking at the right angle bend of the anchor, across the edge of the guitar. It was impossible to fix and thus required the purchase of a new tailpiece."
Jerry, would it be possible to mark your archival videos (older projects) as such?
It would keep people (like me) from posting pointless comments, before noticing it is an old project.
That there gee-tar must'a been owned by some scab pickin' banjer player. Jus' cudent' hep' hisself from pullin' that binding off. Wait a minnet', did i ever own that gee-tar?
Hey brother Jerry. With a job this complex, how on earth do you quote on this?
Do you give a firm quote for the complete job; or quote to make the guitar playable, and then ballpark the cosmetics, then contact the customer at every aesthetic stage for go ahead?
Presently I bill at $80 an hour. I give a quote on how many hours I expected to take. On some jobs I say I will limit it to a specific amount of time depending on the issue. If it takes more than that I just eat the cost. What other jobs I explain that I have no idea how long this is going to take but my guess is about this many hours it could be a few hours more Etc. Parts are always whatever they cost so I don't charge extra for those
Do you have any experience gluing plastic to wood using Titebond Melamine Glue?
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Hey Jerry, Just wondering....if paste wax before taping binding would prevent finish tear out?
I think i had a guitar like that one but... i gave it away because i couldn't repair it and I would have kept it but it needed work ..
That second binding made it look a bit like a liquorice all sort lol
well jerry, at first,i thought that guitar was headed to the fire pit,your a glutten for punishment,lol
frequensator on eBay about 30 bucks
Jerry have you ever tried using acetone to attach the bindings I do it with a pipette tape the binding drip the acetone it attaches like magic.
Yes I have used acetone countless times. I don't find it all that amazing. Fact I find it a fairly weak attachment most of the time