Stealth and Immortality in Library of Ruina

[@zzzmeta4555]

If I lived in the city, I’d start immediately running if Koishi Komeiji offered me immortality

[@paigelux4819]

Who?

[@victorvirgili4447]

@@paigelux4819Koishi Komeiji, the character this youtuber uses as avatar. In the Touhou fandom she’s kinda feared because in lore she kinda does whatever and whatever can sometimes be stabbing people with a knife (literally her ult in one of the fighting games). Also there was a fan work made about her and it’s kinda traumatizing

[@judehanma]

You'd not remember a thing.
People who meet her doesn't remember a single thing.

[@paigelux4819]

@victorvirgili4447 Was playing into the joke of you not being able to remember her but thanks :3

[@izzymosley1970]

I think the more depth an knowledge based game has the more likely it is that the game will have a overpowered strategy like this.

[@TaiNoire]

This implies that you need anything above rudimentary knowledge to use Springs Genesis.

[@malthe236]

@@TaiNoireooga booga me like intangible

[@foxxbaker]

Funny enough I actually forgot about stealth, to the point I only use spring genesis only once

[@anothenblue2630]

With Spring Genesis, you get it by the time you've already won.

[@anothenblue2630]

Two things to note:
-Fear of Water does NOT contribute to CoS because it makes you lose HP rather than take damage. Important distinction.
-Hello will get wasted on defensive dice if that's the first one rolled because it technically affects them, but they can't hit anything, so, you don't heal. It is what it is.

[@nicemoreoften]

It's not just mods that specifically turn off Claws, Tanya does it (and then forgets to do it later)

[@anothenblue2630]

She doesn't. She gives you a debuff tha tmakes you ununtargettable. Big difference.

[@nicemoreoften]

@@anothenblue2630 I'm not talking about the technical aspects of targeting Claws, just the designer intent of introducing mechanics that are definitely intended to counter Claws

[@anothenblue2630]

@@nicemoreoften I know, but it's a funny bit of trivia to bring up. Literal playground pretend fight tactics.

[@nicemoreoften]

@@anothenblue2630 That's neat that that's how it works, is there anything in vanilla that can get rid of BattleUnitBuf_nullfyNotTargetable?

[@anothenblue2630]

@@nicemoreoften not on player side since it's a neutral status and there i sno purge for that.

[@legioneras4576]

Stealth is like obvious cheat code to win. There is more fun and braindead strats:
BlockHod, where you are make opponents bleed itself to death with clash win inflict bleed abno page
Binah (more likely a librarian) with min roll strat and 11 power from trash disposal. Just keep heal up.
Chesed and canceling enemy dices via clonned abno page from adult, who lies.

[@ceddavis7441]

The two untarggetable ego cards (gebura's and neztach's) are, in fact, different. You can tell because one can redirect and the other can't.

[@elitemetropolice4551]

goated snapcube reference at 2:55

[@WomanSlayer69420]

LMAO.
The wolf has done it again. It’s funny how the wolf is a source of an immortality exploit in both lobotomy corp and library of ruina.
(In lobotomy corp, if you end a day right after a nugget starts work with the wolf, they become completely invincible to anything that isn’t instant death for the following days and this will last until you reset or quit the game.)

[@dinolamb8400]

I didn’t even realize you could go infinite with claws of savagery. I guess I never thought about inflecting self blood/damage.

[@betergrif9504]

3:27 *354 BURN??*

[@kakoytazabar]

Foreshadowing is a literary device.

[@cold_ay_]

this format/narration reminds me of Reverend’s pokemon videos, if that means anything to you. good stuff! never really bothered with stealth because nothing really warrants it, but this is a really clean summary of how busted it is

[@failmasterjm]

Huh, I just realized I never actually used stealth. I don't think I ever fully read Claws of Savagery. I must have read the take 25% max hp damage, muttered myself "I'll just win all my clashes lmao", and then stopped reading.

[@ChupapiMynana]

Bro explaining why netzach floor is best.

[@Niiue]

I knew Claws was already busted but it persists through Acts?? Jesus Christ PM what the fuck

[@TV-qm8ob]

Hi

[@silverventhil8462]

and here i was thinking on the last video i should posit the question of what the blatantly bad or extremely trivial to beak the game with abno pages ought be considering your whole 'ruina is an unfinished game' triad from the minx/max challenge. espeically with how muhc you complain about Netzach's abno's being terrible outside of springs genesis being unreasonable.

[@TaiNoire]

I think most of Netzach's abno pages are pretty good. I think even outside Springs Genesis the floor is solid, it just so happens that one page creeps every other playstyle on it in terms of optimal strategy and makes the other options seem much worse by comparison.

[@silverventhil8462]

@@TaiNoire fair enough. its always been funny to me that Netzach initially has this hardline sustain/pierce/stagger theme, then springs genesis shows up being supported mainly by the sustain to force an immortal end game. and it.. doesn't feel good for a floor thats otherwise about winning a battle of attrition. almost wish clashing was a requirement for Springs Genesis things. Netzach is sorta natrually leaning into a long game in a pretty unique way initally even compared to Malkuth since so many of Netzach's abno/E.G.O pages don't really amp his own power but weaken the enemy or at least keep his teams health up. perfect for high emotion level book farming i suppose.

[@anothenblue2630]

@@TaiNoire eh, depends on the fight. You can win some before you get Spring Genesis at all, like Purple Tear.
But literally none of those actually interact with his floor, they are generic meta builds.

[@AstraVoid_Omnipotent_Being]

omg koishi