Got a 2019 Cerato GT in mid 2024, had about 39,000Kms on the clock. Just passed 50,000 kms and it is holding up very well. Took me a week to get used to the suspension, have zero complaints now. Feels so confident in the corners. I would highly recommend anyone to change the oil every 5,000kms. Since it does not hold a lot of oil, it circulates a lot and gets dark reasonably quickly. Use your manual driving habits with this DCT, it will feel much more comfortable to drive and will prevent the clutch packs from wearing prematurely. DO NOT ride the brakes when moving in slow traffic. Come to a full stop, then start moving again without pressing the brakes. Apart from that, its the best warm hatch/sedan on the market for the price.
I had a 2014 Cerato. It had 176K on it, never missed a beat. Great city/run around car, cheap to run, cheap to service. Very happy with it. My daughter wrote it off this year, driver error, but all safety systems worked and she walked away without a scratch.
Hey guys another terrific review!👏🏼 My brother has the Cerato GT 2023 sedan & absolutely loves it! When he first took me for a drive I honestly thought it was a little pocket rocket! He’s extremely happy with it & it is/was his very first new car he bought on retirement. 👍🏼
I bought a 2018 KIA Cerato S MY18 manual with a GDI engine. It has traveled through South Australia, Canberra, New South Wales, and countless times across Gippsland, the Great Ocean Road, and regional towns all over Victoria. I’ve clocked 215,000 kilometers so far in 6 years with routine maintenance. My Cerato has been my reliable, faithful work vehicle and our family holiday getaway car. I've already gotten so much out of it, but I’ll continue servicing it every 5,000 miles and will keep driving it until it reaches mileage impossible. My Cerato still drives like a new car. KIA, thank you for making a safe, reliable car for families and for building a network of dealers customers can trust to service their cars. I hope KIA continues building the best value cars that will last 1 million miles.
I bought the facelifted model new in 22 primarily because it comes with basically every feature you could ask for. In 2022, to get a similar level of equipment you had to pay 10-20k more depending on the brand and even when fully optioning those alternatives it was likely even those were missing SOMETHING (like a sunroof, or ventilated seats, or the lane follow assist, or gutless engines etc). Honestly I haven't had any real issues/concerns or drivability issues with the DCT except with reversing up hills - that's an entirely separate skill you'll have to learn with these... Even now, I still love the car. It'll happily challenge a P plater in a Falcon/Aurion/VF Commodore in traffic light drags and the handling is fantastic, not just for the class but in general. On a spirited group drive on a windy road, you'll keep pace with much more expensive vehicles. No, it won't lead the pack but it's more than capable enough to have fun with them. (with the ventilated seats on)
I quote Jim from the Kia Pro_cee'd GT video from about 2 years ago - "The G4FJ.. the 1.6 litre engine in these is a stout little unit with no, one common expensive serious problem that causes catastrophic engine failures... we've never had to refer one back to the dealership for any warranty repairs." That is the EXACT same engine that is in the Cerato GT, yet you both have a very different outlook on it? Its not like the 1.6 is a new motor either so the last 2 years have made much difference on its reputation, its been out since the Veloster Turbo came out. Whilst I really like this channel, I think you guys have a lot of inconsistencies and biases that need to be addressed to grow further, just some constructive feedback:) Keep up the good work!
On the Hyundai i30 PD redriven video he didn’t mention a thing about engine failures, when there are lots of owners suffering engine failures high oil consumption etc with these cars, and now there are class action lawsuits for both Kia and Hyundai about it.
Redriven please bring back the SAFETY section with all the entertaining ideas!! On a serious note people really should pay attention to safety (most importantly the crashworthiness!) even when buying used cars, particularly for family cars intended to carry children. Should make a reference to test results from IIHS if model is available for both markets. Sadly ANCAP is not adequate if you compare the test criteria..
Have a 2018 Cerato bought new, all its had is a new battery and a hatchback lock which was replaced under warranty, done 56k's and due for 60k service.....been a great trouble free car......
I rented a 2023 Sport + for 6 months (!). Perfect. I don't like the lane assist, but that's about it, and you can turn it off anyway. The ride/handling is exceptional and it's very quiet.
Was my favourite car when I worked at Kia yeah it had the engine and transmission problems but warranty does it all. The way it drives handles power output everything about it is amazing would buy one any day of the week best bang for buck
I have a MY 20 GT Hatch, which I use principally for long distance driving. It’s brilliant. The DCT controls the car very well on hilly and winding roads. If I have one complaint, it’s the cars horn. It’s best described as pathetic. It really needs a dual horn, or one from a car like a Calais or a Falcon G6 E.
Have to comment on this. In 2014 I bought new a Proceed GT with the 1.6 turbo GDI. The car now has 250000km on the odometer and just keeps on keeping on. It’s in everyday good distance commute scenarios of around 90km per throw but it has been consistently dealer serviced on time at 7500km as per service schedule. My other half drives it…I have had other Kia four-cylinder cars and none have ever let me down. My current ride is the Stinger GT 3.3 twin turbo and that car is at 216000km dealer serviced every 10k and again, no engine issues whatsoever, so this vlog somewhat surprised me….
I had a 2021 i30 N Line which ofc is platform and drivetrain shared with the Cerato. The Car was absolutely wonderful to drive, had it for 3 years and 36,000km with no issues. Reminded me a lot of a MK5/6 GTI however a little more subtle. The DCT at town speed was defs the biggest issue but still had no genuine problems for my whole ownership. Great value for money hot hatches these 2.
Bullshit... Petrol engines (non turbo) every 10k no matter how you drive it. Turbo or used in dusty conditions serviced every 8k. Oils are of a much higher quality & most cars come with extra oil capacity, no need to over service your vehicle!
@@paulkarwacki7119 what’s your experience. I own and operate a mechanical workshop , service about 3500 vehicles a year, have done for 35 years. This is my experience.
Former 2020 GT owner here… emphasis on former. This was probably one of the best cars I’ve ever driven and owned for the price you pay for it. Severely underrated and incredibly competent within its class… However - if you’re a proper enthusiast or rev-head like me, it will leave you wanting more. It’s deceptively quick for what it is, and with some basic modifications, I managed to keep up with much faster cars on track with it (i30N, Mustangs, 135i Msports, etc), so in that sense it is a bit of a sleeper… Yet don’t let that fool you. It’s still not a sports car, so while it might initially feel like you’re getting a bit of a best of both worlds scenario here, it’s definitely more leaning towards the “regular commuter car that just happens to be quick” side of things than the “sports car that happens to be comfortable and practical” that something like a Golf GTi gets right. I loved so much about mine when I had it, but I don’t miss it.
@@CallumCalzar I think it's best described as a "warm hatch" that doesn't quite meet the standards of a hot hatch. It's good all-around but it isn't Kia's version of a Golf GTI. Driving back-to-back, they are very different experiences. I'd say it's a good gateway car given the value - enjoy a taste of the experience and upgrade to something more serious when you can afford to. Personally I've been eyeing an M235i x drive. It ain't pretty, but small sedans have grown on me.
Bought a base model 2020 with extra safety pack. Drive away $22.8k with a manual transmission at the time. Basic but all the kit you NEED even if it's not got all the kit you might WANT. Sips 91RON fuel, average 6.7L/100km after 35,000km. Affordable, safe, good boot size, and didn't cost the earth. 7 year warranty for peace of mind. It's not luxe but zero complaints so far.
Had one of these as a courtesy car while my Picanto was getting a new transmission (the day after I bought it…(no issues since)), man was it a pain in the arse to drive at low speeds in bumper to bumper traffic. Felt like it was never happy. However, once you get out on to open road, it’s really quite good.
I love the GT version, well I used to own a Stinger. Was going to buy the good wife a late model GT version. She test drove one overnight and loved everything accept - the harsh ride. It didn't bother me but it was a dealbreaker for my partner, pity really.
I used to have an early facelift GT My22 hatch and it was an awesome car, was so fun to drive but the suspension was way too firm. Did 80,000kms in it before I traded it in.
Great review as always. I own a Kia Sportage 2020 and my infotainment system delaminated in the same way you describe in relation to the Cerato. To Kia's credit, they replaced it for free, even though it was technically out of warranty.
Hi guys, I get the feeling that you don’t know that the cerato 2.0 isn’t the same engine in Hyundai’s (and perhaps previous cerato too?). It’s a port injected engine, and is running an Atkinson cycle (or if the normal cars are that, then it’s Otto - I forget now). It doesn’t get the carbon-caused issues that a lot of Kia/Hyundai 2.0 engines are infamous for. In 6 speed auto, 2.0l models, these are a true corolla alternative. Uninspiring, but reliable and practical.
@@stevearthur1580 there's none to avoid as a rule. like all cars, buy based on service records and apparent condition. a well looked after interior, lack of scratches on the wheels, brand name tyres, and a fully serviced car (meaning every year and always within the 10,000km/15,000km interval), gives you the best chance of a smooth INITIAL ownership experience on a used car. all used cars have the potential to have issues - that's likely why the last owner sold it after all! factor that into your budget. if you can afford to buy a car that has at least 6mths of factory warranty left (and ensured it's been fully serviced so the warranty is still valid!!!!), that's the best bet as a used buyer. and this BD generation of Cerato does not use the theta 2 (direct injection) engines, for the 2.0 litre.
Cerato might be the best value medium-small car you can get. We bought a second-hand 2020 Cerato S hatch in 2022. Near new car with the best of the basic mod-cons (adaptive cruise, apple/android phone projection, lane keeping) with 5 years of new car warranty still on it. Which we've used for a few items including the nav screen delamination without any hassles from our dealership. $17000. And we've racked it up to over 200,000kms
I absolutely adored my GT, special, practical and excellent, thanks for reviewing ❤❤❤. I'm getting super excited that my current car, the i20n, might be featured at some point in the future 😁😁😁 (pleeaasse)
Your guy's videos are amazing. I'm (obviously) looking for new, used car, and these videos have trust been invaluable and incredibly helpful resources which help me make an informed decision. I have never known anything any cats, but the sheer volume of insightful info, comedy and just sheer excellent presentation, had made me subscribe, and I am now learning things about cars. 😅🖤
I would just go for the 2.0 Sport+ model. Yes it won't be exciting to drive compared to the GT. However, your almost going to get the majority of the feature of the GT but none of the problems of the DCT & turbo complications.
I just wish they didn’t put the rear indicator lights so dam low on the rear bumper. That’s a big problem for me. Otherwise these are a pretty decent car.
Had one of these GTs for around 2 and a half years.. overall was pretty good, although the dct left a lot to be desired at slow speeds and in traffic !
My dad has a late 2018 cerato S. so it’s the base model, but it’s very very nice to drive. Steering is amazing. And the interior is great. When he was looking to buy a used car early this year to replace his trusty old falcon, we was gonna go for like a $15k Mazda 3 or something like that. Ended up going with one of these for $24k because of how well it drove. It has 110,000kms on it now and it’s great. He’s super happy with it. It drives nicer than my ford territory and my Suzuki vitara. It’s an incredible car. I’m curious about its longevity because his falcon had 330,000kms when he sold it. He’s keen to keep this Kia for just as long as that.
Kind of confused, the video featuring the same 1.6t-gdi in the Proceed GT, Jim gave it plenty praise but doesn't seem so sure about it here..? Also getting mixed signals throughout the video while Adam claims the DCT is suspect while Jimbo says they seem to be alright😅
Agree a little confusing though as a GT owner they are great cars with regular maintenance very reliable best bang for buck out there 6.5sc 0-100 14.8sc quarter mile
@@Motorsports05 ….that’s interesting…always thought 0-100km/h time on these Proceed GT models was 7.4 secs…is yours chipped or upgraded because the car I have isn’t that quick. Mind you, my Stinger does that in 4.7 secs 0-100….
@@Hutchy86 …well given they’re stating the engines give trouble, it’s irrelevant which car it is isn’t it? Whether it be a Cerato or a Proceed, the engines are built in the same plant!
I’ve got an older Cerato (2011) Koup and love it. But I’m completely lost on what engines have issues and ones that are fine. It *seems* from the Theta-II GDI onwards. 🤷
I own a facelifted 2021 GT and so far so good. On the transmission - treat it as an old-fashioned manual and give it half a second to enter into 1st gear, then it would be fine On the suspension - use 38 psi for the tires instead of the original 35 psi, and it would be bearable on Aussie roads
Have a MY 2024 Cerato Sport hatch with a safety pack. 13000 kms on the clock in year 1 and still runs and handles and looks good as new. I recommend this car to anyone who is looking for a car in this class.
Brought a 21 MY22 GT hatch, cross shopped against Mazda 3 GT and Corolla ZR. Cerato won on pure driving fun, acceleration and outright grip. Just keep it well maintained and get to know a good dealer for any warranty claims.
Would love to see a focus st line being reviewed by you guys as I’m considering buying one or Hyundai i30 N Line which I know shares the same engine as the cerato GT. Keep up the great videos.
I got a brand new 2024 Cerato Sport+, I really love driving it. To me it really drives like a premium or luxury car, for such a budget car it is. I hope to hold onto it for years to come
We have a 2018 hatch and the only issue is how stiff the ride is it's ridiculous why they made it that stiff for a car that is meant for the daily grind/family duties.. Other than that it's awesome..
Here in Montreal, our roads are full of Kia's. I drive a 2014 Kia Rondo and the only issue I have had was with normal wear and tear. There are zillions of 1st gen Rondo's on the road and the still look great. I dont know if the Rondos simply were made better than many other Kia cars but I dont see the motors blowing up issue, considering all the cars I see from 2007 onward.
Have rolled our 6yo Carnival into Sharp Kia in Tweed Heads twice now for repairs. We are not the original owners, nor was it purchased at Sharps. No problem though, car sorted. I'd love to see a YP carnival on the channel. I'd give you mine, but Northern Rivers NSW is probably far to far away.
Hi Guys - nice review. I have a 718 (2018) Cayman available for review and also a Mark V GolfR32 for review also. Sorry in the Albury / Wodonga region if that is not too hard for your. Both cars are worth the drive!
I have a MY18 Kia Cerato GT Hatchback (Built in December 2018 n Registered to Dealership in Feb 2019) and it was a demo with 2000kms when i got it in April 2019. Current it has 295,000kms on it and has been serviced directly from my local Kia with no issues. I have done the early servicing from a none Kia Dealership but if its something other then a oil change they have all said "I don't know how to do this part. Should take it to Kia to do it" also I have tried to do some things like spark plug but if their not Kia parts it dies or gives the car many issues after about 10k-20k km's. This is not a car you "Do it yourself" and have worked on all 5 cars I have owned instead of mechanics. It has had 2x Wheel Bearings replaced under warranty and a new engine under warranty due to a gasket failure that made the engine burn too much oil and cooked some rod bearings. Other then that I have made zero modifications to it and barely condition my leather seats and leather steering wheel and have not had any kind of cuts into the leather or peels but just crows feet. I would recommend this car to anyone because its a fun and speedy car ( Not so much the 2.0L ) The suspension is turned for having fun and can understand the firm ride but its a cheaper car with all the good tech for the price you can not get from any other. I got this car for 29k and the cheapest car close to it for new or demo was 36k and that was the Ford Focus RS trim and Hyundai i30 SR. But test driving all 3 this car has to be the best and most fun out of the 3. I am almost 300,000kms and will be looking at having it for much longer.
Very true about Kia dealerships. Got nowhere with my dealer when the engine mounts and other mounts went, so ran it through my insurance and got it repaired through Auto Masters instead
I was close to getting a GT but went with the MK8 Golf R-Line. This thing is quick for 150kw and has features even the Golf doesn’t have yet costs more. I really like how Kia offers two options for a louder exhaust as part of their genuine accessories too. I found the steering really firm when I took it on a test drive, and the JBL sound system wasn’t the best. Also I haven’t noticed any rattles in my Golf, having done over 20,000kms.
Really like the Golf 8 R Line, pity there's no Estate option in that spec though. Proper torque converter auto and the 1.4 is still a cracking little engine
@@eponymous7910 definitely is mate. That Aisin torque converter is a pusher, very short gear ratios and delivers great push. Despite only having 110kw it feels like warm hatch level, did a 0-100 time and got 6.9 seconds flat. Little Ripper
Random car to request but can we have any variant of the Mitsubishi 380? I’ve had a few for a daily and have found them to be super reliable comfortable and quite fun/quick for a big old land yacht. For under an under 5 daily would be interesting to see one on the channel. (I like dud cars so Jim might rip into it) 😂
+1, I bought one for $3.5k before Covid and fast forward to now almost 5 years later the only thing extra I had to do for it besides regular service (once a year) was replacing the original radiator (18 years old at this point)
Well if Adam and Jim want to do a review of a Mitsubishi 380, I have an entry level 2006 model in excellent condition with over 200k. It has been a perfect car with zero issues.
We got a Kia Carnival 2018 and have swapped out the headunit without issues from the dealership. Other than that not an issue to report in 6 years of ownership.
MY20 sedan GT owner. My only concerns when I purchased mine was the DCT and potential engine carbon build up due to the direct injection. I accepted the risk of a the DCT because I don't have to drive in peak hour traffic so mines been fine (touch wood) apart from the very occasional confusion it has. I also only put in 95 in an attempt to keep my injectors cleaner for longer. Few warranty items that have gotten fixed for free without any real hassle, more to come at my next service. To be fair, I would have probably been laughed at by dealerships if I brought any of these things up with my previous cars.
@@Hutchy86 gear knob had worn "leather" after 6 months with no mistreatment. Engine mounts were causing knocking sound when turning right. There was something else that I can't remember. At next service I'll be getting them to look at my headlight peeling, my rear spoiler has a screw loose which is rattling inside the boot lip, aircon is making a ticking sound and my window auto up switch doesn't work all the time.
@@justo316 what year model? I also have had the engine mounts and also a gearbox mount replaced at low kilometres. Now having the air con noise you mentioned but at this stage it’s only in really cold weather so they haven’t be able to diagnose. Tip for your headlights. Once you get them replaced get a PPF (paint protection film) wrap on them. I’ve had from day one so no issues with mine. I went clear but you can get smoked which could look cool 🤙
Putting 95 won’t do a thing. The issue with direct injection is that the fuel is no longer sprayed in the port, which would clean it at the same time. Higher octane fuel for your use case is just a waste of money.
I had a Cerato MY19 hire car for a a few days a while back. While it drove ok (nothing special the transimission was really uninspiring), the one thing that really drove me mad to the point I wouldn't ever consider one myself was the ridiculously fat A-pillar which creates an infuriating and dangerous blind spot, especially when pulling into traffic. (for proof, hit pause at 11:39...)
In the time I drove a base model Cerato, I found it to have a cheap and nasty interior compared to competitors (e.g. Mazda 3, i30, Civic). I also found the engine to be thrashy and intrusive and the driver assist technologies were extremely intrusive and counter-intuitive to turn off. I have found other Kias (Stinger aside) to be very similar in this regard. Personally, it would be near the bottom of my list in this class.
i know a business that uses a late ish model kia cerato for daily deliveries all day and i worry because when it inevitably grenades itself the business owners will probably take upto 6 months to replace the vehicle or if ever replace the vehicle at all and might lean towards making the delivery driver use their own car because this said business has horrible HR because it's owned by an investment firm that doesn't like to spend money and can't justify investing money into another company car
In the pro_ceed gt video (which is a pre 2018 model car) Jim praises the 1.6 turbo engine. In this video he says the pre 2018 1.6T engines are shit?? Please explain
My local Kia dealership have ruined my experience with our Cerato GT. The DCT slips dangerously leaving us unable to accelerate with no warning - such as joining traffic or crossing roads. The dealership have reset the software and refused to do anything more. 18 months and no fix. We will never buy another Kia.
Have to agree with you Adam that it is a nice looking car the Cerato. If I were too choose an alternative to this I'd be most likely considering the Toyota Rukus instead. Good to know that the post '18 models are less like to do an Achmed the dead terrorist to themselves but the risk still being there is a bit of a concern. Overall good video guys and as always keep up the good work and look forward to Sunday's video as per usual 👍.
2024 gt owner. the drive mode defaults to standard (fuckin annoying cause the old models didnt). sometimes the esp will effect the handling and deaden the steering (annoying) no wireless apple car play (why have a wireless phone charger then? annoying) no auto wipers (wtf) no camber adjustment (ffs their $40 and fit) .throttle is laggy is F (throttle body controller fixs). dct gets lost sometimes (not helped by standard mode default setting) .engine sound amplifier needs binning ( its not a suby). decent build quality, good cabin and driving position, goes like stink, long warranty and under $40k.... why bother with the ugly k4 coming #sellsitself
Got a 2019 Cerato GT in mid 2024, had about 39,000Kms on the clock.
Just passed 50,000 kms and it is holding up very well. Took me a week to get used to the suspension, have zero complaints now. Feels so confident in the corners.
I would highly recommend anyone to change the oil every 5,000kms. Since it does not hold a lot of oil, it circulates a lot and gets dark reasonably quickly.
Use your manual driving habits with this DCT, it will feel much more comfortable to drive and will prevent the clutch packs from wearing prematurely. DO NOT ride the brakes when moving in slow traffic. Come to a full stop, then start moving again without pressing the brakes.
Apart from that, its the best warm hatch/sedan on the market for the price.
Have a cerato 2020
It's been a flawless ownership experiance. Works perfectly everytime.
We own a MY2022 Kia Cerato GT and have done 50k on it and it’s has been a dream! 100% recommend!
I had a 2014 Cerato. It had 176K on it, never missed a beat. Great city/run around car, cheap to run, cheap to service. Very happy with it.
My daughter wrote it off this year, driver error, but all safety systems worked and she walked away without a scratch.
damn was she speeding?
Wasn't over the speed limit but was driving too fast for the conditions.
been extremely happy with my 2020 GT. Perfectly reliable and still drives like a new car.
how man ks?
Hey guys another terrific review!👏🏼 My brother has the Cerato GT 2023 sedan & absolutely loves it! When he first took me for a drive I honestly thought it was a little pocket rocket! He’s extremely happy with it & it is/was his very first new car he bought on retirement. 👍🏼
I bought a 2018 KIA Cerato S MY18 manual with a GDI engine. It has traveled through South Australia, Canberra, New South Wales, and countless times across Gippsland, the Great Ocean Road, and regional towns all over Victoria. I’ve clocked 215,000 kilometers so far in 6 years with routine maintenance. My Cerato has been my reliable, faithful work vehicle and our family holiday getaway car. I've already gotten so much out of it, but I’ll continue servicing it every 5,000 miles and will keep driving it until it reaches mileage impossible. My Cerato still drives like a new car. KIA, thank you for making a safe, reliable car for families and for building a network of dealers customers can trust to service their cars. I hope KIA continues building the best value cars that will last 1 million miles.
I just saw KIA catching FIRE on road.
its like driving grande.
I bought the facelifted model new in 22 primarily because it comes with basically every feature you could ask for. In 2022, to get a similar level of equipment you had to pay 10-20k more depending on the brand and even when fully optioning those alternatives it was likely even those were missing SOMETHING (like a sunroof, or ventilated seats, or the lane follow assist, or gutless engines etc). Honestly I haven't had any real issues/concerns or drivability issues with the DCT except with reversing up hills - that's an entirely separate skill you'll have to learn with these...
Even now, I still love the car. It'll happily challenge a P plater in a Falcon/Aurion/VF Commodore in traffic light drags and the handling is fantastic, not just for the class but in general. On a spirited group drive on a windy road, you'll keep pace with much more expensive vehicles. No, it won't lead the pack but it's more than capable enough to have fun with them. (with the ventilated seats on)
I quote Jim from the Kia Pro_cee'd GT video from about 2 years ago -
"The G4FJ.. the 1.6 litre engine in these is a stout little unit with no, one common expensive serious problem that causes catastrophic engine failures... we've never had to refer one back to the dealership for any warranty repairs."
That is the EXACT same engine that is in the Cerato GT, yet you both have a very different outlook on it? Its not like the 1.6 is a new motor either so the last 2 years have made much difference on its reputation, its been out since the Veloster Turbo came out.
Whilst I really like this channel, I think you guys have a lot of inconsistencies and biases that need to be addressed to grow further, just some constructive feedback:) Keep up the good work!
There is a difference, the proceed engine is made in Slovakia, so while it may have the same design, the factory may have a different quality level.
On the Hyundai i30 PD redriven video he didn’t mention a thing about engine failures, when there are lots of owners suffering engine failures high oil consumption etc with these cars, and now there are class action lawsuits for both Kia and Hyundai about it.
I was hoping you did one of these, seriously underrated in the top trim!
Redriven please bring back the SAFETY section with all the entertaining ideas!!
On a serious note people really should pay attention to safety (most importantly the crashworthiness!) even when buying used cars, particularly for family cars intended to carry children. Should make a reference to test results from IIHS if model is available for both markets. Sadly ANCAP is not adequate if you compare the test criteria..
Nah bruh my 1998 Corolla is super reliable. I'd win against any RAM.
Have a 2018 Cerato bought new, all its had is a new battery and a hatchback lock which was replaced under warranty, done 56k's and due for 60k service.....been a great trouble free car......
bro stop giving kia a good name
I rented a 2023 Sport + for 6 months (!). Perfect. I don't like the lane assist, but that's about it, and you can turn it off anyway. The ride/handling is exceptional and it's very quiet.
Was my favourite car when I worked at Kia yeah it had the engine and transmission problems but warranty does it all. The way it drives handles power output everything about it is amazing would buy one any day of the week best bang for buck
2018 1.6 Cerato K3 owner here, apart from the headlight protective film delaminating, all is well.
120k KM at the moment
I have a MY 20 GT Hatch, which I use principally for long distance driving. It’s brilliant. The DCT controls the car very well on hilly and winding roads. If I have one complaint, it’s the cars horn. It’s best described as pathetic. It really needs a dual horn, or one from a car like a Calais or a Falcon G6 E.
lol, the horn is so embarrassing, I don't like to use mine 😂
It’s the same on my i30 n line hahah it sounds pathetic
@justo316 Yes...neither do I. It sounds like a mouse farting through a bugle.🤣🤣
Replacing a horn is a really easy job anyone can do it
Had a 2020 GT - seriously the best bang for buck car on the market. Was $34k then - Eibach springs - awesome ride.
Have to comment on this. In 2014 I bought new a Proceed GT with the 1.6 turbo GDI. The car now has 250000km on the odometer and just keeps on keeping on. It’s in everyday good distance commute scenarios of around 90km per throw but it has been consistently dealer serviced on time at 7500km as per service schedule. My other half drives it…I have had other Kia four-cylinder cars and none have ever let me down. My current ride is the Stinger GT 3.3 twin turbo and that car is at 216000km dealer serviced every 10k and again, no engine issues whatsoever, so this vlog somewhat surprised me….
I had a 2021 i30 N Line which ofc is platform and drivetrain shared with the Cerato. The Car was absolutely wonderful to drive, had it for 3 years and 36,000km with no issues. Reminded me a lot of a MK5/6 GTI however a little more subtle. The DCT at town speed was defs the biggest issue but still had no genuine problems for my whole ownership. Great value for money hot hatches these 2.
Every 40 year old mechanic ( and over) has just agreed with you. 10K servicing. 5 if you push it. This applies to all cars. End of story
I change my oil every six months, regardless of mileage. I use synthetic oil, so it would have changed colour by then anyway.
@@damilolaakanni100%
Sometimes that means I’ve only done 3000kms 😂
Bought my triton ute new 17 years ago. Serviced every 15 000 k's as per manufacturer spec. 260 000 k's on the clock and never had an issue.
Bullshit... Petrol engines (non turbo) every 10k no matter how you drive it.
Turbo or used in dusty conditions serviced every 8k.
Oils are of a much higher quality & most cars come with extra oil capacity, no need to over service your vehicle!
@@paulkarwacki7119 what’s your experience. I own and operate a mechanical workshop , service about 3500 vehicles a year, have done for 35 years. This is my experience.
Former 2020 GT owner here… emphasis on former.
This was probably one of the best cars I’ve ever driven and owned for the price you pay for it. Severely underrated and incredibly competent within its class…
However - if you’re a proper enthusiast or rev-head like me, it will leave you wanting more. It’s deceptively quick for what it is, and with some basic modifications, I managed to keep up with much faster cars on track with it (i30N, Mustangs, 135i Msports, etc), so in that sense it is a bit of a sleeper… Yet don’t let that fool you. It’s still not a sports car, so while it might initially feel like you’re getting a bit of a best of both worlds scenario here, it’s definitely more leaning towards the “regular commuter car that just happens to be quick” side of things than the “sports car that happens to be comfortable and practical” that something like a Golf GTi gets right.
I loved so much about mine when I had it, but I don’t miss it.
@@CallumCalzar I think it's best described as a "warm hatch" that doesn't quite meet the standards of a hot hatch. It's good all-around but it isn't Kia's version of a Golf GTI. Driving back-to-back, they are very different experiences.
I'd say it's a good gateway car given the value - enjoy a taste of the experience and upgrade to something more serious when you can afford to.
Personally I've been eyeing an M235i x drive. It ain't pretty, but small sedans have grown on me.
The Cerato GT is the sibling to the i30nl N-Line. So yeah, turbocharged commuter car.
Bought a base model 2020 with extra safety pack. Drive away $22.8k with a manual transmission at the time. Basic but all the kit you NEED even if it's not got all the kit you might WANT. Sips 91RON fuel, average 6.7L/100km after 35,000km. Affordable, safe, good boot size, and didn't cost the earth. 7 year warranty for peace of mind. It's not luxe but zero complaints so far.
I’m sold 😂
Had one of these as a courtesy car while my Picanto was getting a new transmission (the day after I bought it…(no issues since)), man was it a pain in the arse to drive at low speeds in bumper to bumper traffic. Felt like it was never happy. However, once you get out on to open road, it’s really quite good.
I love the GT version, well I used to own a Stinger. Was going to buy the good wife a late model GT version. She test drove one overnight and loved everything accept - the harsh ride. It didn't bother me but it was a dealbreaker for my partner, pity really.
oh look the new 2 series
😅😅😅😅
from front .... back side is Audi
Don't insult Kia like that
@@storeshop7524 Kia is insulting themselves more than enough
bmw copy kia
If the GT come with a manual i would have one already
I believe some areas like the US offered these with a manual!
Get an i30 sedan N line. Same motor / FWD combo but there are some 6 speed manuals out there.
@TVR161 yeah but I don't like the looks Or interior like I do the kia
Same.
The S having a manual but not the up spec versions is plain stupidity.
I used to have an early facelift GT My22 hatch and it was an awesome car, was so fun to drive but the suspension was way too firm. Did 80,000kms in it before I traded it in.
Great review as always. I own a Kia Sportage 2020 and my infotainment system delaminated in the same way you describe in relation to the Cerato. To Kia's credit, they replaced it for free, even though it was technically out of warranty.
@@anthonyv3050 If your car’s 2020MY, how can it be out of warranty? It’s 2024 and Kia Motors Australia offers a seven-year warranty…
@OrnumCR it must be spam bot.
Hi guys, I get the feeling that you don’t know that the cerato 2.0 isn’t the same engine in Hyundai’s (and perhaps previous cerato too?).
It’s a port injected engine, and is running an Atkinson cycle (or if the normal cars are that, then it’s Otto - I forget now).
It doesn’t get the carbon-caused issues that a lot of Kia/Hyundai 2.0 engines are infamous for.
In 6 speed auto, 2.0l models, these are a true corolla alternative. Uninspiring, but reliable and practical.
What model Cerato is the one to avoid? Is it the thetta engined? any older ones worth looking at ie 2015 ish?
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@@stevearthur1580 there's none to avoid as a rule.
like all cars, buy based on service records and apparent condition.
a well looked after interior, lack of scratches on the wheels, brand name tyres, and a fully serviced car (meaning every year and always within the 10,000km/15,000km interval), gives you the best chance of a smooth INITIAL ownership experience on a used car.
all used cars have the potential to have issues - that's likely why the last owner sold it after all! factor that into your budget.
if you can afford to buy a car that has at least 6mths of factory warranty left (and ensured it's been fully serviced so the warranty is still valid!!!!), that's the best bet as a used buyer.
and this BD generation of Cerato does not use the theta 2 (direct injection) engines, for the 2.0 litre.
literally just searched this on ur channel yesterday, and here we are !
We know… so we whipped up a review super fast
9:49 Love the Ponch mention. Great Journo and reviewer 👍 I bought my 2023 BRZ pretty much off his review and dearly love that vehicle.
Cerato might be the best value medium-small car you can get. We bought a second-hand 2020 Cerato S hatch in 2022. Near new car with the best of the basic mod-cons (adaptive cruise, apple/android phone projection, lane keeping) with 5 years of new car warranty still on it. Which we've used for a few items including the nav screen delamination without any hassles from our dealership. $17000. And we've racked it up to over 200,000kms
I have a 2013 Cerato with 270k which now needs a few bits repaired for rego in 2025 but I'm sure I'll have it for a few years yet..
Happy 2020 Sport+ owner. Leather seats, push button start at all the safety gear makes for a great family car
I absolutely adored my GT, special, practical and excellent, thanks for reviewing ❤❤❤. I'm getting super excited that my current car, the i20n, might be featured at some point in the future 😁😁😁 (pleeaasse)
Your guy's videos are amazing. I'm (obviously) looking for new, used car, and these videos have trust been invaluable and incredibly helpful resources which help me make an informed decision. I have never known anything any cats, but the sheer volume of insightful info, comedy and just sheer excellent presentation, had made me subscribe, and I am now learning things about cars. 😅🖤
I would just go for the 2.0 Sport+ model. Yes it won't be exciting to drive compared to the GT. However, your almost going to get the majority of the feature of the GT but none of the problems of the DCT & turbo complications.
Says every Sport+ owner who justifies spending less 🤪
@@Sp33dYAU Hyundai/kia dct are pure trash lmao. It the gt came in a manual then it will be a different story
I just wish they didn’t put the rear indicator lights so dam low on the rear bumper. That’s a big problem for me. Otherwise these are a pretty decent car.
Had one of these GTs for around 2 and a half years.. overall was pretty good, although the dct left a lot to be desired at slow speeds and in traffic !
That’s because DCT’s aren’t designed for slow speeds and traffic…..
You’re right about that !
I see that Erebus Origin ;)
One of the nicest cars I’ve driven, especially the facelift
My dad has a late 2018 cerato S. so it’s the base model, but it’s very very nice to drive. Steering is amazing. And the interior is great. When he was looking to buy a used car early this year to replace his trusty old falcon, we was gonna go for like a $15k Mazda 3 or something like that. Ended up going with one of these for $24k because of how well it drove. It has 110,000kms on it now and it’s great. He’s super happy with it. It drives nicer than my ford territory and my Suzuki vitara. It’s an incredible car. I’m curious about its longevity because his falcon had 330,000kms when he sold it. He’s keen to keep this Kia for just as long as that.
Kind of confused, the video featuring the same 1.6t-gdi in the Proceed GT, Jim gave it plenty praise but doesn't seem so sure about it here..? Also getting mixed signals throughout the video while Adam claims the DCT is suspect while Jimbo says they seem to be alright😅
Agree a little confusing though as a GT owner they are great cars with regular maintenance very reliable best bang for buck out there 6.5sc 0-100 14.8sc quarter mile
@@Motorsports05 ….that’s interesting…always thought 0-100km/h time on these Proceed GT models was 7.4 secs…is yours chipped or upgraded because the car I have isn’t that quick. Mind you, my Stinger does that in 4.7 secs 0-100….
@@OrnumCRwell have you got a Cerato GT or a Proceed GT?
I asked this exact question previously when I compared the Proceed video with the Veloster 🤷♂️
@@Hutchy86 …well given they’re stating the engines give trouble, it’s irrelevant which car it is isn’t it? Whether it be a Cerato or a Proceed, the engines are built in the same plant!
The GT burned my optima easy at the lights, uphill. Impressed.
I’ve got an older Cerato (2011) Koup and love it.
But I’m completely lost on what engines have issues and ones that are fine.
It *seems* from the Theta-II GDI onwards. 🤷
I own a facelifted 2021 GT and so far so good.
On the transmission - treat it as an old-fashioned manual and give it half a second to enter into 1st gear, then it would be fine
On the suspension - use 38 psi for the tires instead of the original 35 psi, and it would be bearable on Aussie roads
UNSW Car Society Mentioned 🗣🔥‼
(On the air freshener)
Have a MY 2024 Cerato Sport hatch with a safety pack. 13000 kms on the clock in year 1 and still runs and handles and looks good as new. I recommend this car to anyone who is looking for a car in this class.
Is it just me, or do others also find this car quite good-looking? 🤔
your badge mates are the size queens of the car world... Just saying.
Brought a 21 MY22 GT hatch, cross shopped against Mazda 3 GT and Corolla ZR.
Cerato won on pure driving fun, acceleration and outright grip.
Just keep it well maintained and get to know a good dealer for any warranty claims.
Would love to see a focus st line being reviewed by you guys as I’m considering buying one or Hyundai i30 N Line which I know shares the same engine as the cerato GT. Keep up the great videos.
I got a brand new 2024 Cerato Sport+, I really love driving it. To me it really drives like a premium or luxury car, for such a budget car it is. I hope to hold onto it for years to come
We have a 2018 hatch and the only issue is how stiff the ride is it's ridiculous why they made it that stiff for a car that is meant for the daily grind/family duties.. Other than that it's awesome..
These are great, but the Proceed offers the same thrills but with a manual transmission.
Is that an Escort Twin Cam in Jim’s shop ? OMG those cars were a shitload of fun !!!
2.3 Ecoboost
@@thatfordescortguy The modern day Twin Cam .. nice
Aren't the engines the same as the i30 (pre 2018?). Saw that you recommended the Hyundai so a little confused about the difference?
The less obvious alternatives are less obvious for a good reason.
Here in Montreal, our roads are full of Kia's. I drive a 2014 Kia Rondo and the only issue I have had was with normal wear and tear. There are zillions of 1st gen Rondo's on the road and the still look great. I dont know if the Rondos simply were made better than many other Kia cars but I dont see the motors blowing up issue, considering all the cars I see from 2007 onward.
I actually couldn’t imagine buying a car without watching one of your videos first, saved me a lot of stupid buys!!
Have rolled our 6yo Carnival into Sharp Kia in Tweed Heads twice now for repairs. We are not the original owners, nor was it purchased at Sharps. No problem though, car sorted.
I'd love to see a YP carnival on the channel. I'd give you mine, but Northern Rivers NSW is probably far to far away.
Hi Guys - nice review. I have a 718 (2018) Cayman available for review and also a Mark V GolfR32 for review also. Sorry in the Albury / Wodonga region if that is not too hard for your. Both cars are worth the drive!
I have a MY18 Kia Cerato GT Hatchback (Built in December 2018 n Registered to Dealership in Feb 2019) and it was a demo with 2000kms when i got it in April 2019.
Current it has 295,000kms on it and has been serviced directly from my local Kia with no issues. I have done the early servicing from a none Kia Dealership but if its something other then a oil change they have all said "I don't know how to do this part. Should take it to Kia to do it" also I have tried to do some things like spark plug but if their not Kia parts it dies or gives the car many issues after about 10k-20k km's. This is not a car you "Do it yourself" and have worked on all 5 cars I have owned instead of mechanics.
It has had 2x Wheel Bearings replaced under warranty and a new engine under warranty due to a gasket failure that made the engine burn too much oil and cooked some rod bearings.
Other then that I have made zero modifications to it and barely condition my leather seats and leather steering wheel and have not had any kind of cuts into the leather or peels but just crows feet.
I would recommend this car to anyone because its a fun and speedy car ( Not so much the 2.0L ) The suspension is turned for having fun and can understand the firm ride but its a cheaper car with all the good tech for the price you can not get from any other. I got this car for 29k and the cheapest car close to it for new or demo was 36k and that was the Ford Focus RS trim and Hyundai i30 SR. But test driving all 3 this car has to be the best and most fun out of the 3.
I am almost 300,000kms and will be looking at having it for much longer.
Very true about Kia dealerships.
Got nowhere with my dealer when the engine mounts and other mounts went, so ran it through my insurance and got it repaired through Auto Masters instead
I was close to getting a GT but went with the MK8 Golf R-Line. This thing is quick for 150kw and has features even the Golf doesn’t have yet costs more. I really like how Kia offers two options for a louder exhaust as part of their genuine accessories too. I found the steering really firm when I took it on a test drive, and the JBL sound system wasn’t the best. Also I haven’t noticed any rattles in my Golf, having done over 20,000kms.
Really like the Golf 8 R Line, pity there's no Estate option in that spec though. Proper torque converter auto and the 1.4 is still a cracking little engine
@@eponymous7910 definitely is mate. That Aisin torque converter is a pusher, very short gear ratios and delivers great push. Despite only having 110kw it feels like warm hatch level, did a 0-100 time and got 6.9 seconds flat. Little Ripper
That GT is a beast. I want one lol
I own a 2021 Cerato with 120,000 klm it has never used any oil and no oil leaks.
❤ love these ..
Putting in my request for a last gen Lexus es250, its one of the few Lexus models you guys haven’t covered yet
Mates got one and the worst thing is the fake exhaust sound inside the car
oh i didn't know it has that shit
yeah it's pretty sad - easy to disconnect
Looking at the Skoda Scala or this
Random car to request but can we have any variant of the Mitsubishi 380? I’ve had a few for a daily and have found them to be super reliable comfortable and quite fun/quick for a big old land yacht. For under an under 5 daily would be interesting to see one on the channel. (I like dud cars so Jim might rip into it) 😂
I have asked a few times years ago, I doubt they know what a ' 380 ' is ?
@@perpetualgrin5804 I’d love this and then a follow up with the trust Magna verada another comfy underrated daily
@@2jztheworld361 I too love the Mitsubishi's but won't hold my breath for a test. It makes no sense for the International market.
+1, I bought one for $3.5k before Covid and fast forward to now almost 5 years later the only thing extra I had to do for it besides regular service (once a year) was replacing the original radiator (18 years old at this point)
Well if Adam and Jim want to do a review of a Mitsubishi 380, I have an entry level 2006 model in excellent condition with over 200k. It has been a perfect car with zero issues.
We got a Kia Carnival 2018 and have swapped out the headunit without issues from the dealership. Other than that not an issue to report in 6 years of ownership.
Yeah, seems the cup holders can't take real coffee. Sad day for us real coffee lovers.
Can you review the Suzuki Ignis?
MY20 sedan GT owner. My only concerns when I purchased mine was the DCT and potential engine carbon build up due to the direct injection. I accepted the risk of a the DCT because I don't have to drive in peak hour traffic so mines been fine (touch wood) apart from the very occasional confusion it has. I also only put in 95 in an attempt to keep my injectors cleaner for longer. Few warranty items that have gotten fixed for free without any real hassle, more to come at my next service. To be fair, I would have probably been laughed at by dealerships if I brought any of these things up with my previous cars.
Throttle Controller makes a massive difference in response if you haven't already installed one, especially with the DCT.
What were/are the warranty issues you have had?
@@Hutchy86 gear knob had worn "leather" after 6 months with no mistreatment. Engine mounts were causing knocking sound when turning right. There was something else that I can't remember. At next service I'll be getting them to look at my headlight peeling, my rear spoiler has a screw loose which is rattling inside the boot lip, aircon is making a ticking sound and my window auto up switch doesn't work all the time.
@@justo316 what year model?
I also have had the engine mounts and also a gearbox mount replaced at low kilometres. Now having the air con noise you mentioned but at this stage it’s only in really cold weather so they haven’t be able to diagnose. Tip for your headlights. Once you get them replaced get a PPF (paint protection film) wrap on them. I’ve had from day one so no issues with mine. I went clear but you can get smoked which could look cool 🤙
Putting 95 won’t do a thing. The issue with direct injection is that the fuel is no longer sprayed in the port, which would clean it at the same time. Higher octane fuel for your use case is just a waste of money.
Great video! Would love it if you did a review of the 2019 i30 N-Line. I’ve got one and love it, keen to hear your opinion.
Just get a sport+ if its for family, hrban use. Has all the bells and whistles you need and a proper automatic transmission rather than a dual clutch
I had a Cerato MY19 hire car for a a few days a while back. While it drove ok (nothing special the transimission was really uninspiring), the one thing that really drove me mad to the point I wouldn't ever consider one myself was the ridiculously fat A-pillar which creates an infuriating and dangerous blind spot, especially when pulling into traffic. (for proof, hit pause at 11:39...)
In the time I drove a base model Cerato, I found it to have a cheap and nasty interior compared to competitors (e.g. Mazda 3, i30, Civic). I also found the engine to be thrashy and intrusive and the driver assist technologies were extremely intrusive and counter-intuitive to turn off.
I have found other Kias (Stinger aside) to be very similar in this regard. Personally, it would be near the bottom of my list in this class.
I have a 2022 Skoda Fabia 150 Monte Carlo if you’d like to review it 😊
i know a business that uses a late ish model kia cerato for daily deliveries all day and i worry because when it inevitably grenades itself the business owners will probably take upto 6 months to replace the vehicle or if ever replace the vehicle at all and might lean towards making the delivery driver use their own car because this said business has horrible HR because it's owned by an investment firm that doesn't like to spend money and can't justify investing money into another company car
Please do one episode on Kia sorrento
Can't stand the rear indicators being separated from the tail lights
In the pro_ceed gt video (which is a pre 2018 model car) Jim praises the 1.6 turbo engine. In this video he says the pre 2018 1.6T engines are shit?? Please explain
The new 2 series looks 🔥🔥🔥
Redriven video drops = automatic like.
Just wondering if you collect watches? I've seen you wearing a Seiko Turtle & a Casioak G Shock in recent videos
Have you ditched the Seikos for an Erebus watch?
has to be possible to get a gr corolla on for a review
My local Kia dealership have ruined my experience with our Cerato GT. The DCT slips dangerously leaving us unable to accelerate with no warning - such as joining traffic or crossing roads. The dealership have reset the software and refused to do anything more. 18 months and no fix. We will never buy another Kia.
Can you please do a review of the 2023 Kia Seltos GT fwd two litre.
Wouldn't the close rival for it be the i30 sedan? 2021-2023. Even though the Hyundai does use the newer engine, not a direct injection. Thank God!!!
10:00 elite choice of words🤣🤣
Helloo! Mitsubishi outlander please
The gunk on the windscreen makes me sick guys ..please think of something else!...
I always skip it, I'm sure others do too.
On the contrary, we’ve had plenty say it’s the only time they stick around for the promo. Each to their own we suppose 🤷♂️
Have to agree with you Adam that it is a nice looking car the Cerato.
If I were too choose an alternative to this I'd be most likely considering the Toyota Rukus instead.
Good to know that the post '18 models are less like to do an Achmed the dead terrorist to themselves but the risk still being there is a bit of a concern.
Overall good video guys and as always keep up the good work and look forward to Sunday's video as per usual 👍.
Please do Lexus RC 350!!!
2024 gt owner. the drive mode defaults to standard (fuckin annoying cause the old models didnt). sometimes the esp will effect the handling and deaden the steering (annoying) no wireless apple car play (why have a wireless phone charger then? annoying) no auto wipers (wtf) no camber adjustment (ffs their $40 and fit) .throttle is laggy is F (throttle body controller fixs). dct gets lost sometimes (not helped by standard mode default setting) .engine sound amplifier needs binning ( its not a suby). decent build quality, good cabin and driving position, goes like stink, long warranty and under $40k.... why bother with the ugly k4 coming #sellsitself
Do some gwm and haval cars
please can you guys review mercedes c class too I really wanna see
Got one booked in to film in a couple weeks!
It's a handsome car