Rufus Scrimgeour was a good man. He was just in the wrong kind of job, in the wrong time. Rufus was not a perfect man, per se since Kingsley Shacklebolt turned into a far better minister after the series ended, but Rufus Scrimgeour was still considered a hero. He didn't rat out Harry to Voldemort before he died, and he put up quite a fight against him and his Death Eater followers. If it was that fat toad, Fudge, he would have totally squealed.
If he focused on preparing the Wizarding world instead of trying to find out what Dumbledore was up to and using Harry as a poster boy he would've done better.
Scrimgeour was a very competent auror. But the thing is Fudge made most of the Wizarding World unprepared for Voldemorts challenge as a reason Scrimgeour could not make matters better.
Hate about him he opposites fudge care reputation of ministry he lock Stan in Azkaban and cover up break out even agree fudge idea lie to Harry of the winning is brilliant he 2nd worst minister
I think the point of making the wizard government so corrupt and dysfunctional was to show that these are human traits that are endemic in every society. Power corrupts and especially when you are dealing with wizards.
Another reason why the Ministry is corrupt is that they don’t keep record of the birth of Squibs. If I were Minister for Magic, I would try my best to fix that issue and all the issues Dean said in this video.
Fudge *denies Voldemort is back for an ENTIRE PISSING YEAR! And smeared harries name with falsities and lies* Also fudge *expects Harry to comply with being the poster boy*
Fudge was better as a peace time Minister. His true colors as both a wizard and a politician could be seen when he gave himself Order of Merlin 1st class: This is not a man you want during war time. It's a surprise that Voldemort didn't just leave him in the Ministry so they'd continue being impotent
I’ve never been quite sure of what the purpose of the Ministry is, and it just seems to be a useless, needlessly bureaucratic department in which it’s unclear what the Minister can actually do and to what extent. He seems to be an elective dictator, but as a Minister - with the idea that he’s just another one of the British cabinet- he’s theoretically under the Crown in terms of the power structure. So I have to say it’s quite amusing to think that Pius would have had to swear allegiance to the Queen in a public oath to appear legitimate lol. Regardless, most aspects of the wizarding world seem to function rather well on their own. Places like Hogwarts or St Mungos don’t exactly need funding since they can magic things that they need themselves, the aurors seem like a self-sufficient body without government oversight and aside from being just a figurehead of the magical community, I don’t know what the Minster can do or what his powers actually are. And even then, it’s not like they have the ability to collect tax revenue nor does the Minister have direct agents working under him so how can he enforce his edicts? It seems to be incredibly arbitrary, archaic, corrupt, deliberately out of touch, bureaucratic and without any purpose or reason to it. To be honest, the Ministry is the best argument for anarchism I’ve ever heard lol.
Well who do you think kept letting these Dark Lords run loose? It is only to keep the do gooders tied up so they will not stop these old blotted guys from doing even more harm and getting more power for themselves.
The wizarding community keeps to itself, including governing itself. I can't see them considering themselves under the crown or any other muggle government. (Although they do seem to conform to muggle political boundaries). Their government is just as corrupt and useless and self serving as most governments in the world though, for sure.
They could have proved Harry was telling the truth in two ways to prove Voldemort was back, look at his memories in a pensive and a truth potion. Don't get me started on Sirius Black and how he was denied a trial when they could have also looked at his memory of Peter turning into a rat or testing the last spell he did on his wand.
Well as far as the wizenagomot is concerned, he could've cast wingardium leviosa after killing the street and then he'd be innocent. Also memories aren't a trustworthy source of knowledge as recollection can be tampered with, case in point slughorn in the half blood prince. That being said what they really should've done was fed him veritaserum and gotten the truth that way.
Wishful thinking but to be blunt, there was no way in heaven or hell Fudge would let Harry do that, especially with intentionally changing the time of the hearing to discredit Harry and not properly informing him
they didn't actually want the truth. the ministry actually knew voldy was back but tried to hide this fact under the rug. they needed guilty ones to blame, not the truth that shatters their power
As always Rowling make the Wizarding world a mirror of our own fraught skew society! They can do magic, but they are neither better nor worse than us morally.
@@StuartLugsden Oh he would if he had a really good lawyer. Minister or not what Fudge and Umbridge and the majority of the Ministry did was 1000000000000% ILLEGAL
YUP! On all points, YUP!!! While we don't know much about the France Ministry, the U.S. Ministry is just as bad. The U.S. Ministry fired an investigator for investigating a case. Granted, she wasn't supposed to be working on that case, but they did nothing, not even listen to her, with the valuable information. To top it off, the death penalty is used more often than prison from what we see in the films. Instead of trying to capture Credence, the order was to kill on sight whereas Grindlewald... Gee, let's just pack him off back to England. Yeah... The Wizarding World Governments really are extremely corrupt.
was grindlewald going to Britain ? magical Americas prison cells were stacked up like caged cargo if that would suggest signs of corruption . custody remand cell used for newt Tina and Jacob was more modern with bench Jacob sat on during talk there
I’ve heard a theory that it was actually dumbledoor. He knew Sirius would claim him but needed Harry to live with his blood relatives for protection. This is backed up a little by the fact that albus would know full well how close Sirius and James were but didn’t even bother investigating.
One problem is, the people of the WW see themselves as eternally under siege - by us. To an extent they are correct, but it renders the Ministry all-powerful in that anything they judge as serving the terms of the SoS is thereby legal and must be supported. The other problem is, whether it functions or not is a function of who the MfM is. Have a Bagnold or the like, things are fine. Have a Fudge? The flaws of the MfM become a problem writ large. Worst of all, I don't know how much Kingsley and then Hermione can really do as far as reform. If they don't reduce the MfM's potentially dictatorial powers, recurrence is inevitable. If they do, they first and foremost reduce their own power to enact reforms. Multi-level Catch-22.
Just one piece of ridiculousness in the movies. Don't get me started on the movies. So much ridiculousness, just to sensationalised. Like that stupid damn frog quire.
Absolutely. And so many people think that because Hermione Granger is now minister, everything is going to be all rosy. From what I can gather from what I've been able to learn, nothing has really changed. She will just put Band-Aids on the problems without any serious reform. Sure, she might be good at magic, but she's not very good at critical thinking. I'd say the vast majority of Ravenclaw house, including their head, would run rings around her in the critical thinking department. True, genuine reform takes critical thinking, not hero worship of wizards who are supposed to be good, whether they have a long beard or a scar on their forehead. No, if anyone thinks that Hermione is going to make things better, I have a bridge to sell you.
he was basically a high end crime boss with deep pockets. If Amelia Bones was Minister in Phoenix she would have been like "Im in charge here, not Lucius Malfoy!"
Not only that, during Harry’s time it was excessively bureaucratic in some parts and lax in others. For example, Percy was talking about the Ministry determining the exact thicknesses cauldrons, which in my opinion should just have a minimum and the rest left to private magical enterprises. Alternatively, the legal system is laughable. No appeal system, and the courts are made up of ministry officials?
Harry does have a point that even though Rufus tried to become a better minister, he for some reason had umbridge with him. How on earth did that witch have her job when she confessed to harry that she was the one who sent the dementors? I'm glad she's now in azkaban
A video suggestion: 1. The Malfoy family after the Battle of Hogwarts (+ How they escaped Azkaban) 2. Changes (if any) after Kingsley Shacklebolt became the Minister. 3. What happened to the House-elves of Hogwarts after the battle?
Harry didn't save anyone's "life". He saved their "soul" from the dementor. Honestly, getting killed by Voldemort via Avada Kedavra would actually be a mercy compared to being given the dementor's kiss
You seemed to miss the part during Harry's trial where dumbledore explains how the law Wizards can use magic in life threatening situations, and fudge literally says "laws can be changed if necessary". If an individual has the ability to change constitutional laws to advance a personal agenda without further counsel then that spells the death of society, magical or not.
@4:47 could employees simply ask any employees that were werewolves to just not come into workaround the time of the full moon as opposed to not letting them have the job at all
I feel like the Ministry Of Magic just exists so wizards can be employed without having to interact with muggles. JK Rowling said there was only 3000 wizards in the UK. Look at the scene where Harry first visits the Ministry Of Magic in Order Of The Phoenix. There's easily hundreds of wizards in one shot who are arrived at the Ministry at that time. Doesn't even cover the wizards who are already there, arriving later or spouses of Ministry employees living off their partners income. Even the people who work in Diagon Alley are probably Ministry employees since Diagon Alley is only really used during school holidays since most shops only sell school supplies and all the kids are away at Hogwarts most of the year. Diagon Alley shops are probably just side businesses for the wizards who own them. The only other employers aside from the Ministry in the UK would be Hogwarts, the Daily Prophet, shops in Hogsmeade and Quidditch teams. All those employers combined would probably only come to less that 200 jobs. If it weren't for the Ministry wizards would either be using magic to live off the grid or working in Apple stores. And if this theory is right then that would mean that the Ministry is only paying money to their employees out of the Ministry's treasury at which point the Wizards only pay a small amount back in tax so the Ministry is hemorrhaging money in order to pay thousands of employees Which is probably why Lucius Malfoy had so much influence since he was super rich and donating money to the ministry. Aside from keeping wizards and muggles separate I can't see why the Ministry would continue to operate the way it does.
Corrupt? Definitely. Evil? I don't think so, or rather I don't think they were malicious. There were DEFINITELY malicious and evil people inside, but there were also those trying their best to make the most of a corrupt establishment, like Madam Bones. Personally, I think Dumbledore squandered the best chance to reform the Ministry when he refused the post, allowing the corruption to fester rather than make the hard choices. But then again, this whole world seems full of people that just can't help but drop the ball.
Dumbledore rejected that post because he didn't feel worthy of it due to his past misfortunes. This is why he preferred to become headmaster of Hogwarts to positively influence future generations. And what Cornelius Fudge did shows just how corrupt the Ministry of Magic was, not only because of what he did himself, but also because he could do it so easily. Cornelius should to go to prison after his immoral actions, which should also be illegal. But that didn't happen because apparently in the wizarding world there are no laws against the abuse of power.
Fudge: The Ministry doesn't sent people to Azkaban for expressing their Deviantart inflation fetishes on their aunts. Also Fudge: You used the Patronus Charm in front of a muggle, even though you were trying to save said muggle's sorry ass?! Guess who's expelled from Hogwarts!
Fudge and Umbridge tried to get Harry expelled for using magic to save his 'muggle' cousin Dudley, who knew he was magical. As such, the law of secrecy, about using magic in the presence of muggles, would not apply. Therefore Harry had the right to use magic in a life threatening situation. The fact that Fudge threatens to have the law changed shows his bias against Harry, to the entire Wizegamot.
Love your videos, to me one of the worst things the ministry of magic did was put Sirius in Azkaban and I feel sorry for Remus, he was a very gifted wizard but because of were wolf rules he couldn’t get a job I am so happy Kingsley became the minister of magic and surely he will be a great minister When a half-blood and muggle-born have a child what is the blood status of the child?
Yes! Besides, we don't know what became of Rodolphus Lestrange after he escaped and told Delphini who she was. Also, I don't think it's fair that Teddy, Neville, Luna, Lorcan, Lysander, James Jr. and Lily Jr. were pretty much ignored in CC.
Yeah that shit sucks when it comes to the government, and it happens in real life to. Our government in the US does the same thing basically they say they have everything under control when they don’t, and I guess it’s the same way in the wizard world when it comes to politicians, there is a difference between a leader and a politician. You know what they say, great men are not always Wise.
Here's the difference - IRL when the Head of Government changes, usually the Department Heads change. In the Wizarding World, even when the Minister makes such a FUBAR of it, the Heads of Departments remain in situ.... SO, there are no Trump Appointees in the Biden Administration. However, in the Wizarding World, the sacking of Fudge had No Effect on Dolores Umbridge....
3:10 After this point, I knew the video was going to be an interesting one, and you really enlightened me on the corruption within the Ministry of Magic. It went even further than I truly realized.
Master Splinter said that leadership is about responsibility, not popularity. When the Ministry relinquished their responsibility, they also relinquished the power to create a better society.
FWIW Aunt Marge only floated down the street in the Movie. She just spends some time bouncing off the ceiling in the book! And IMHO that wasn't HALF what she deserved...
Some of the ministry corruption could be traced back to the Death Eaters and the pureblood families. Voldermort targeted the ministry and ensured the most incompetent and ineffective were under their thumbs. During the wars those who could have made real change, refused to submit or intelligent enough to be a threat were disposed of.
I am glad someone brought this up. I was saying a few weeks back how I thought perhaps the minister of magic was corrupted or perhaps even working for Voldermort in secret which is why they turned a blind eye to so many issues in the books and movies before being overun! It always felt like it was part of the plot and alot of them in the ministry were not so much death eaters, however. They were involved in a secret and silent way. Umbridge is a good example of corruption and evil inside the ministry. Things have improved exceptionally and the murder and assult of muggle borns, half bloods, pure bloods and muggles alike in both communities is next to non existent (rare occasions. Since Kingsly became the minister of magic. :)
They seem to have the authority of a secret police force or perhaps comparable to the FBI or MI5, and are meant to deal with internal threats to the magical community, presumably being accountable to the Minister.
Remember, during the First Wizarding War, Crouch, then head of the Aurors and Magical Law Enforcement, gave them permission to use the "Unforgiveable Curses" on SUSPECTS!!! Mad Eye's claim to fame is that HE never used them - all the others...
Hey @HarryPotterFolklore, how did the death eaters and their supporters react to an infant Harry Potter being responsible for Voldemort's defeat and disappearance?
I would imagine crazy Bella took over the Death Eaters that chose to remain active. She probably had the Dursleys on her kill list but because of the spell between Harry and Petunia (OotP CH37 The Lost Prophecy) the Dursley home couldn't be found. So they fell on the Longbottoms, torturing Frank and Alice into madness.
@@karlbergen6826 Oh yeah. Dumbledore told Harry that shortly after Voldemort's first defeat, Harry was in much more danger because he had just defeated Voldemort hours ago. Voldemort may have been gone but his followers (who were just as bad as him) remained and it wouldn't be long before they would go after Harry for being responsible for their masters downfall, hence why Harry was rushed to the Dursley's immediately to protect him from vengeful Death Eaters.
I didn’t like Rufus Scrimgeour, but I was very sad when I read that he was captured and horrifically tortured by Voldemort for information, yet he refused to give up Harry. What’s that saying, in their last moments people show you who they really are.
While "Plea Bargaining" is a HUGE part of US Law Enforcement, it isn't that common in Europe. - One MIGHT get a REDUCED Sentence for "Cooperating" with an ongoing investigation, one rarely gets a "Get Out of Jail" card!
@@tommoore2012 That may be a point, but do you think things got better after they kicked the dementors out? I doubt it! There's no mention of bathing, or of anywhere to wash their clothes. Sirius was wearing the same robes for 12 years.
What ppl don’t consider about the house elves is that, it’s actually a lot worse that it seems. Yes they’re enslaved, but, they’ve been abused so badly that they think it’s okay, they even commit self-harm willingly. Their mentality is quite similar to what you’d find in a cult actually, try googling the BITE model
I always think of the 2nd book where, in the space of 5 min, they send an innocent man to jail and suspend another. And they didn't release him as soon as Ginny was taken. Hagrid couldn't have been the one if the attacks were still happening while he wasn't there. As for Dumbledore, I didn't see the Ministry sending anyone to the school in search of the Chamber. Those jerks didn't do anything to find the Chamber, and they have the guts to say Dumbledore didn't do enough? I didn't trust Fudge from that point on. I was so happy when he got fired.
To be fair about the aunt Marge thing, that was unintentional, wandless, emotional magic that was beyond Harry's control, whereas he DID willfully cast a Patronus in book 5.
One thing is the lack of representation from other magical beings. Goblins, centaurs, elves, etc. Their is a severe lack of representation present, and attempts made are often not enough or prevented by the pure-blood and ultra radical members of the Ministry.
I got busy writing a long reply to a comment and decided to possibly use some of it in my own comment. The Ministry was a mess but I am going to comment on Harry's trial in the fifth book. After Umbridge failed to kill Harry with Dementors she started a criminal proceeding against him. Harry had broken no law, in fact he had done the Ministry of Magic a favor. Had Dudley been killed Vernon would have told all to any Muggle who'd listen. A father angered over the death of his son is not something a wise man or woman would ever want to deal with. Vernon would have exposed the magical world for revenge. Had he or Petunia cared about Harry they would have gotten after the Ministry of Magic. A side note. A healthy family structure is not too valued today but had Harry had a real family there would have been hell to pay for the Ministry taking action against Harry. Strong family structures a valuable and should be sought. Then there's Harry's trial. Because of their personal interest in the case Fudge and Umbridge were not judicially qualified to sit in judgement on Harry. Fudge abrupt rescheduling of the trial suggests an intent to try in absentia and that Harry Potter was supposed to arrive at the Ministry and discover he had been tried in absentia and was already convicted. Fudge's handling of the trial was terrible. His opening statement, "inquiry into offenses committed by Harry James Potter..." implies that Harry is already guilty and converts the trial into a sentencing hearing. Fudge's questioning Harry from the bench was totally judicially improper. Harry should not have answered the questions. Dumbledore's assertion, after the charges had been read, that the evidence that the Dark Lord was back was judicially improper as there was nothing in the charges about Harry asserting that the Dark Lord was back. If Dumbledore asserts that the Minister has to know it's still no good as a formal trial is not the place for convincing the Minister of the Dark Lord's return. Fudge tried to get the Wizengamot to vote on a verdict without any argument again showing he wanted to convert the trial to a sentencing hearing. Dumbledore should not have tried to be an attorney. He should have gotten Harry a barrister that knew about magic. You never have a non-attorney defend a major court case. Fudge's and Umbridge's actions at Hogwarts after Harry's acquittal were an obvious attempt to reverse the trial. Draco on at least two occasions tried to provoke Harry into a fight. The first time Ron and Hermione stopped him. The second time Harry whaled the tar out of Draco and Draco started that fight. Parents are at fault in the story for not demanding the removal of Umbridge. Of course it is a story and I may be over analyzing it.
I think Yaxley was a Death Eater who got in AFTER the Death Eaters took over the Ministry. I don't think that he would have bothered to Imperius some like Pius Thicknese if he himself was in the Ministry, undetected, and thus could have gone for the Minister personally.
When it comes to ministry of magic - I think there is another problem with it - The statue of secrecy... Basically, it fit's into your point about this world refusing to change... basically, i feel like the wizarding world is very, very isolated from muggle's world, and the ministry uses the image of muggles from few centuries ago, as people discriminating wizards and "burning them on stakes" as means to keep their power - basically - they use fear to keep power over wizarding world. Example of how isolated this world is from muggle's world, would be Arthur weasley - he is fascinated by them, but he is also completely clueless about even meaningless stuff in muggle world - like rubber duck or not understanding how entrance to the subway/london underground works. Also, i feel that if the world of HP were to be realistic at all... then while in 90s, the statue of secrecy would be able to work out somewhat (no social media, no youtube or other video platforms no quick internet connection, informations spread much slower than nowadays, mainly through newspapers or TV)... Then I could not see it working in present day - I know that HP universe isn't supposed to be realistic... But realistically, if in present day, some wizards would cast the spell in public, or have a fight or anything that could convince people that wizards exist.. then not even single obliviate or hundreds of thunderbirds would fix this, because all you need is one video going viral, and then the entire world knows, and what would ministry of magic would do? obliviate almost 8 billion people?
Just wondering how Karkarov was judged by British ministry of magic when he was from Bulgaria and was supposed to be accountable to Bulgarian ministry of magic, which was, from what we know, probably way more apathetic and unconcerned regarding Voldemort than the British one.
I do believe that all this corruption was the point. Compared to real life however, it's light. Back room deals are normal, bribing is common place, swinging around influence. The biggest thing the Ministry doesn't seem to have that the Muggle world does is some kind of constitution or written law. The Minister for Magic has a helluva lot more power than anyone realizes.
Most Governments DIVIDE power between various Branches and thus, in most democracies, the "Head of Government" and the "Head of State" are rarely the same person. In the US where they are, their power is shared (or Limited) by the House of Representatives, the Senate and the US Supreme Court, ALL of which are Independent of the President. In the UK, given the complete Figurehead status of the Monarchy, the Prime Minister is relatively All Powerful but is still (theoretically) answerable to Parliament and (ACTUALLY) answerable to their own Party. Further, regular elections limit the power of ANY Head of Government. Also, while under Trump, Fox News broadcast whatever Trump said, whether it was real or not, MOST of the Media generally take a sceptical attitude to Government. HOWEVER, in the Wizarding World, there is no Separation of Powers AND the Media appear to be totally (except for "The Quibbler") under the control of the Ministry. Further, Regular elections don't seem to exist and a New Minister is "Chosen" (and it is never quite said How) only on the resignation or death of the previous Minister. Thus the Wizarding World seems to have all the attributes of a One Party Dictatorship, and that is not a healthy form of government
You imagine her being a hypocritical moron that would fight for elvish rights but then keep some as slaves for herself? The same way Bernie “fights” for the little guy against the wealthy but then over prices his products while underpaying his workers also while living in a large mansion?
That make me think about Bartemius Crouch Sr. who was so important and powerful, and a "good guy" that no one ask for his relationship with his family. If you didn’t read the book, let me explain: Crouch Sr was abusing and was a strict and absent father to his son, Crouch Jr. That is first why he was a Voldemort adept, for a loving father and protector. His mother was an important part of his life, she saved him actually. Crouch jr was in Azkaban, and his mother begged for Sr to get him out so he accepted and switch the mother and the son with a poly juice potion, so the mother died at Azkaban, and Crouch jr was free. That’s not even the big of the bad part. Starting to abusing his son again and the son starting to simp about Voldemort again, Bartemius Crouch Senior put an IMPERIUS CURSE on his teenager son to adult, with the invisible cloak on day and night on for years at the point that the house elf had pity of him. Until he was powerful enough to defend himself and stop the curse, and be free again at the Quidditch World Cup.
Am I the only person who notices that you’re basically describing the US government to a tee (both Democratic and Republican parties) 🤔 Of course there are some good Dems at least, but this is a *perfect* analogy for US society and our criminal “justice” system… (I say this as a US citizen and long-time activist on issues from abolishing mass incarceration (often misunderstood as “criminal justice reform”) to environmental racism
I agree, however I think the second wizard war loss is a way to make the whole thing better. The Death Eaters and bigots showed themselves allowing them to be removed. With the memory of the war there will not be a Fudge to allow evil to grow
Fudge represented the typical civil servant, only thinking about his own position. He is like Sir Humphrey Appleby from the great BBC sitcom Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister in the 1980s
Government corruption is as inevitable as death.
unless you can clean it
@@thomasdaywalt7735 and the cycle starts again...
Government corruption isn't inevitable but death as far as we know seemingly is.
Hahaha that’s so funny it’s true
Rufus Scrimgeour was a good man. He was just in the wrong kind of job, in the wrong time. Rufus was not a perfect man, per se since Kingsley Shacklebolt turned into a far better minister after the series ended, but Rufus Scrimgeour was still considered a hero. He didn't rat out Harry to Voldemort before he died, and he put up quite a fight against him and his Death Eater followers. If it was that fat toad, Fudge, he would have totally squealed.
If he focused on preparing the Wizarding world instead of trying to find out what Dumbledore was up to and using Harry as a poster boy he would've done better.
Scrimgeour was a very competent auror. But the thing is Fudge made most of the Wizarding World unprepared for Voldemorts challenge as a reason Scrimgeour could not make matters better.
He was perfect as a War time leader, unfortunately his bodyguards are garbage.
Rufus Scrimgeour was like a war hero but bad at politics that was what he was like , could fudge have thought of the measures to block enemy ?
Hate about him he opposites fudge care reputation of ministry he lock Stan in Azkaban and cover up break out even agree fudge idea lie to Harry of the winning is brilliant he 2nd worst minister
I think the point of making the wizard government so corrupt and dysfunctional was to show that these are human traits that are endemic in every society. Power corrupts and especially when you are dealing with wizards.
Our Government is the same way smh
Another reason why the Ministry is corrupt is that they don’t keep record of the birth of Squibs.
If I were Minister for Magic, I would try my best to fix that issue and all the issues Dean said in this video.
Fudge *denies Voldemort is back for an ENTIRE PISSING YEAR! And smeared harries name with falsities and lies*
Also fudge *expects Harry to comply with being the poster boy*
Such cowardly behaviour if you ask me.
Fudge was better as a peace time Minister. His true colors as both a wizard and a politician could be seen when he gave himself Order of Merlin 1st class: This is not a man you want during war time. It's a surprise that Voldemort didn't just leave him in the Ministry so they'd continue being impotent
I’ve never been quite sure of what the purpose of the Ministry is, and it just seems to be a useless, needlessly bureaucratic department in which it’s unclear what the Minister can actually do and to what extent.
He seems to be an elective dictator, but as a Minister - with the idea that he’s just another one of the British cabinet- he’s theoretically under the Crown in terms of the power structure. So I have to say it’s quite amusing to think that Pius would have had to swear allegiance to the Queen in a public oath to appear legitimate lol.
Regardless, most aspects of the wizarding world seem to function rather well on their own. Places like Hogwarts or St Mungos don’t exactly need funding since they can magic things that they need themselves, the aurors seem like a self-sufficient body without government oversight and aside from being just a figurehead of the magical community, I don’t know what the Minster can do or what his powers actually are. And even then, it’s not like they have the ability to collect tax revenue nor does the Minister have direct agents working under him so how can he enforce his edicts?
It seems to be incredibly arbitrary, archaic, corrupt, deliberately out of touch, bureaucratic and without any purpose or reason to it. To be honest, the Ministry is the best argument for anarchism I’ve ever heard lol.
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Well who do you think kept letting these Dark Lords run loose? It is only to keep the do gooders tied up so they will not stop these old blotted guys from doing even more harm and getting more power for themselves.
Like governments everywhere
You Just described How my country's govt - Brazil - is and always has been
The wizarding community keeps to itself, including governing itself. I can't see them considering themselves under the crown or any other muggle government. (Although they do seem to conform to muggle political boundaries).
Their government is just as corrupt and useless and self serving as most governments in the world though, for sure.
Your points were valid. They were a very corrupt organization and it’s no wonder it didn’t fail sooner. Also love the videos.
Failed? How?
They kept themselves in power. Oh to be useful to the peons who cover under them? It was suppose to help them?
They could have proved Harry was telling the truth in two ways to prove Voldemort was back, look at his memories in a pensive and a truth potion. Don't get me started on Sirius Black and how he was denied a trial when they could have also looked at his memory of Peter turning into a rat or testing the last spell he did on his wand.
Well as far as the wizenagomot is concerned, he could've cast wingardium leviosa after killing the street and then he'd be innocent. Also memories aren't a trustworthy source of knowledge as recollection can be tampered with, case in point slughorn in the half blood prince. That being said what they really should've done was fed him veritaserum and gotten the truth that way.
Wishful thinking but to be blunt, there was no way in heaven or hell Fudge would let Harry do that, especially with intentionally changing the time of the hearing to discredit Harry and not properly informing him
they didn't actually want the truth. the ministry actually knew voldy was back but tried to hide this fact under the rug. they needed guilty ones to blame, not the truth that shatters their power
As always Rowling make the Wizarding world a mirror of our own fraught skew society!
They can do magic, but they are neither better nor worse than us morally.
I still think Harry is well within his right to sue Fudge and the ministry
Agreed
I doubt he would win if he did try something like that
@@StuartLugsden Oh he would if he had a really good lawyer. Minister or not what Fudge and Umbridge and the majority of the Ministry did was 1000000000000% ILLEGAL
Same with Sirius, if he survived Bellatrix's Killing Curse
@@isaackim7675 indeed. Sent to Azkaban without a proper trial or investigation I ask you.
YUP! On all points, YUP!!! While we don't know much about the France Ministry, the U.S. Ministry is just as bad. The U.S. Ministry fired an investigator for investigating a case. Granted, she wasn't supposed to be working on that case, but they did nothing, not even listen to her, with the valuable information. To top it off, the death penalty is used more often than prison from what we see in the films. Instead of trying to capture Credence, the order was to kill on sight whereas Grindlewald... Gee, let's just pack him off back to England. Yeah... The Wizarding World Governments really are extremely corrupt.
was grindlewald going to Britain ? magical Americas prison cells were stacked up like caged cargo if that would suggest signs of corruption .
custody remand cell used for newt Tina and Jacob was more modern with bench Jacob sat on during talk there
The one misuse of Judicial Power that wasn't mentioned here - Barty Crouch (Sr) sent Sirius to Azkhaban WITHOUT A TRIAL!
I’ve heard a theory that it was actually dumbledoor. He knew Sirius would claim him but needed Harry to live with his blood relatives for protection. This is backed up a little by the fact that albus would know full well how close Sirius and James were but didn’t even bother investigating.
Well it was thanks to that bloody law and rushed proceedings. And I mean _rushed_
One problem is, the people of the WW see themselves as eternally under siege - by us. To an extent they are correct, but it renders the Ministry all-powerful in that anything they judge as serving the terms of the SoS is thereby legal and must be supported. The other problem is, whether it functions or not is a function of who the MfM is. Have a Bagnold or the like, things are fine. Have a Fudge? The flaws of the MfM become a problem writ large. Worst of all, I don't know how much Kingsley and then Hermione can really do as far as reform. If they don't reduce the MfM's potentially dictatorial powers, recurrence is inevitable. If they do, they first and foremost reduce their own power to enact reforms. Multi-level Catch-22.
In the books, Aunt Marge never left the house. That bit of ridiculousness was only in the movies.
Just one piece of ridiculousness in the movies. Don't get me started on the movies. So much ridiculousness, just to sensationalised. Like that stupid damn frog quire.
Well I think that bit was kind of to give the film a touch of humor (my guess is due to the music that was playing when that scene happened).
This just mirrors a lot of what happens in real life. People trade information for reduced sentences and or eliminated sentences. Nothing new there.
Politics: one of the few things both Magicals and Muggles either worship or loath.
The Ministry had a corrupt system, Voldemort or not
Absolutely. And so many people think that because Hermione Granger is now minister, everything is going to be all rosy. From what I can gather from what I've been able to learn, nothing has really changed. She will just put Band-Aids on the problems without any serious reform. Sure, she might be good at magic, but she's not very good at critical thinking. I'd say the vast majority of Ravenclaw house, including their head, would run rings around her in the critical thinking department. True, genuine reform takes critical thinking, not hero worship of wizards who are supposed to be good, whether they have a long beard or a scar on their forehead. No, if anyone thinks that Hermione is going to make things better, I have a bridge to sell you.
I totally agree with you Dean, good job. Evil, Corrupt, Bad, and there should be another word in my eyes, worthy in describing them- Useless.
Malfoy never worked for the Ministry, he was just a very influential "aristocrat" that threw his money and weight around.
Though in one of the Books, he does say to Arthur "See you at work" or is that just in the movies?
@@michaelodonnell824 it’s just in the movies
Malfoy= Trymp.
he was basically a high end crime boss with deep pockets. If Amelia Bones was Minister in Phoenix she would have been like
"Im in charge here, not Lucius Malfoy!"
Not only that, during Harry’s time it was excessively bureaucratic in some parts and lax in others. For example, Percy was talking about the Ministry determining the exact thicknesses cauldrons, which in my opinion should just have a minimum and the rest left to private magical enterprises. Alternatively, the legal system is laughable. No appeal system, and the courts are made up of ministry officials?
Harry does have a point that even though Rufus tried to become a better minister, he for some reason had umbridge with him. How on earth did that witch have her job when she confessed to harry that she was the one who sent the dementors? I'm glad she's now in azkaban
Umbridge was shown to be like a traitor for Voldemort so sack Scrimgeour (or fudge after seeing Voldemort) should arrest her for interview
A video suggestion: 1. The Malfoy family after the Battle of Hogwarts (+ How they escaped Azkaban)
2. Changes (if any) after Kingsley Shacklebolt became the Minister.
3. What happened to the House-elves of Hogwarts after the battle?
Harry didn't save anyone's "life". He saved their "soul" from the dementor. Honestly, getting killed by Voldemort via Avada Kedavra would actually be a mercy compared to being given the dementor's kiss
You seemed to miss the part during Harry's trial where dumbledore explains how the law Wizards can use magic in life threatening situations, and fudge literally says "laws can be changed if necessary". If an individual has the ability to change constitutional laws to advance a personal agenda without further counsel then that spells the death of society, magical or not.
@4:47 could employees simply ask any employees that were werewolves to just not come into workaround the time of the full moon as opposed to not letting them have the job at all
That and a large supply of wolfsbane potion.
@@sbatou87 better yet a potion that fully cured anyone who was a werewolf.
@@MarshWaha That has yet to be invented in the HP universe.
@@sbatou87 still a werewolf vaccine to me should be considered.
Ooh a vaccine, nice!
I knew there were flaws in the system of the ministry but Jesus, I never thought that it was this bad.
"No! Hell no!" Best part of the video 😂😂😂
I feel like the Ministry Of Magic just exists so wizards can be employed without having to interact with muggles. JK Rowling said there was only 3000 wizards in the UK.
Look at the scene where Harry first visits the Ministry Of Magic in Order Of The Phoenix. There's easily hundreds of wizards in one shot who are arrived at the Ministry at that time.
Doesn't even cover the wizards who are already there, arriving later or spouses of Ministry employees living off their partners income.
Even the people who work in Diagon Alley are probably Ministry employees since Diagon Alley is only really used during school holidays since most shops only sell school supplies and all the kids are away at Hogwarts most of the year.
Diagon Alley shops are probably just side businesses for the wizards who own them.
The only other employers aside from the Ministry in the UK would be Hogwarts, the Daily Prophet, shops in Hogsmeade and Quidditch teams.
All those employers combined would probably only come to less that 200 jobs.
If it weren't for the Ministry wizards would either be using magic to live off the grid or working in Apple stores.
And if this theory is right then that would mean that the Ministry is only paying money to their employees out of the Ministry's treasury at which point the Wizards only pay a small amount back in tax so the Ministry is hemorrhaging money in order to pay thousands of employees
Which is probably why Lucius Malfoy had so much influence since he was super rich and donating money to the ministry.
Aside from keeping wizards and muggles separate I can't see why the Ministry would continue to operate the way it does.
Corrupt? Definitely. Evil? I don't think so, or rather I don't think they were malicious. There were DEFINITELY malicious and evil people inside, but there were also those trying their best to make the most of a corrupt establishment, like Madam Bones. Personally, I think Dumbledore squandered the best chance to reform the Ministry when he refused the post, allowing the corruption to fester rather than make the hard choices. But then again, this whole world seems full of people that just can't help but drop the ball.
Dumbledore rejected that post because he didn't feel worthy of it due to his past misfortunes. This is why he preferred to become headmaster of Hogwarts to positively influence future generations. And what Cornelius Fudge did shows just how corrupt the Ministry of Magic was, not only because of what he did himself, but also because he could do it so easily. Cornelius should to go to prison after his immoral actions, which should also be illegal. But that didn't happen because apparently in the wizarding world there are no laws against the abuse of power.
Fudge: The Ministry doesn't sent people to Azkaban for expressing their Deviantart inflation fetishes on their aunts.
Also Fudge: You used the Patronus Charm in front of a muggle, even though you were trying to save said muggle's sorry ass?! Guess who's expelled from Hogwarts!
Not to mention it was his own cousin who already knew about magic existing
@@erikapena416 True
Fudge and Umbridge tried to get Harry expelled for using magic to save his 'muggle' cousin Dudley, who knew he was magical. As such, the law of secrecy, about using magic in the presence of muggles, would not apply. Therefore Harry had the right to use magic in a life threatening situation. The fact that Fudge threatens to have the law changed shows his bias against Harry, to the entire Wizegamot.
@@myyklmax A law enforcement really hates one person that much to warrant LOOKING FOR reasons to put them down.
I think it was fear from the dark lord that made fudge act this way
Love your videos, to me one of the worst things the ministry of magic did was put Sirius in Azkaban and I feel sorry for Remus, he was a very gifted wizard but because of were wolf rules he couldn’t get a job
I am so happy Kingsley became the minister of magic and surely he will be a great minister
When a half-blood and muggle-born have a child what is the blood status of the child?
The offspring would still be half-blood.
@@YellowBear-kx1ff thanks
The much needed change could carry a great plot for another saga of Wizarding world movies taking place after Harry Potter's life.
Yes! Besides, we don't know what became of Rodolphus Lestrange after he escaped and told Delphini who she was. Also, I don't think it's fair that Teddy, Neville, Luna, Lorcan, Lysander, James Jr. and Lily Jr. were pretty much ignored in CC.
It’s weird how even the families like the Weasleys have prejudice to house elves and muggleborns.
I thought they liked muggleborns but hid their squibs.
Sounds like several non-magical governments.
Hopefully during the last 19 years they where able to fix the ministry and make it fair for every blood type and every creature
Yeah that shit sucks when it comes to the government, and it happens in real life to. Our government in the US does the same thing basically they say they have everything under control when they don’t, and I guess it’s the same way in the wizard world when it comes to politicians, there is a difference between a leader and a politician. You know what they say, great men are not always Wise.
Here's the difference - IRL when the Head of Government changes, usually the Department Heads change.
In the Wizarding World, even when the Minister makes such a FUBAR of it, the Heads of Departments remain in situ....
SO, there are no Trump Appointees in the Biden Administration. However, in the Wizarding World, the sacking of Fudge had No Effect on Dolores Umbridge....
Good job; I've thought the same kinds of things.
They in the end sided with voldemort what do you think that means
3:10 After this point, I knew the video was going to be an interesting one, and you really enlightened me on the corruption within the Ministry of Magic. It went even further than I truly realized.
Master Splinter said that leadership is about responsibility, not popularity.
When the Ministry relinquished their responsibility, they also relinquished the power to create a better society.
FWIW Aunt Marge only floated down the street in the Movie. She just spends some time bouncing off the ceiling in the book!
And IMHO that wasn't HALF what she deserved...
@5:35 if he shouldn’t have been released then what should they have done instead
Voldemort did not change the Ministry. He just gave the Ministry its excuse to show its true colors (prejudice, dominance, corruption).
Some of the ministry corruption could be traced back to the Death Eaters and the pureblood families.
Voldermort targeted the ministry and ensured the most incompetent and ineffective were under their thumbs. During the wars those who could have made real change, refused to submit or intelligent enough to be a threat were disposed of.
I am glad someone brought this up.
I was saying a few weeks back how I thought perhaps the minister of magic was corrupted or perhaps even working for Voldermort in secret which is why they turned a blind eye to so many issues in the books and movies before being overun! It always felt like it was part of the plot and alot of them in the ministry were not so much death eaters, however. They were involved in a secret and silent way. Umbridge is a good example of corruption and evil inside the ministry. Things have improved exceptionally and the murder and assult of muggle borns, half bloods, pure bloods and muggles alike in both communities is next to non existent (rare occasions. Since Kingsly became the minister of magic. :)
What about the Aurors? Are they corrupt? Are they military or police?
They seem to have the authority of a secret police force or perhaps comparable to the FBI or MI5, and are meant to deal with internal threats to the magical community, presumably being accountable to the Minister.
@@Longshanks1690 ah
Remember, during the First Wizarding War, Crouch, then head of the Aurors and Magical Law Enforcement, gave them permission to use the "Unforgiveable Curses" on SUSPECTS!!! Mad Eye's claim to fame is that HE never used them - all the others...
Apart of believing to do what they DO think is right, this could be about NHS and the "Ministry Of Health".
Well they are politicians - What could you expect.
There was at least a beacon of hope & good in the Ministry of Magic & it’s Arthur Weasley, Tonks, & Kingsley Shacklebolt.
You just figured this out?
Art imitates life.
Hey @HarryPotterFolklore, how did the death eaters and their supporters react to an infant Harry Potter being responsible for Voldemort's defeat and disappearance?
I would imagine crazy Bella took over the Death Eaters that chose to remain active. She probably had the Dursleys on her kill list but because of the spell between Harry and Petunia (OotP CH37 The Lost Prophecy) the Dursley home couldn't be found. So they fell on the Longbottoms, torturing Frank and Alice into madness.
@@karlbergen6826 Oh yeah. Dumbledore told Harry that shortly after Voldemort's first defeat, Harry was in much more danger because he had just defeated Voldemort hours ago. Voldemort may have been gone but his followers (who were just as bad as him) remained and it wouldn't be long before they would go after Harry for being responsible for their masters downfall, hence why Harry was rushed to the Dursley's immediately to protect him from vengeful Death Eaters.
Wait a tick, were there any elves in mentioned in the Harry Potter series? I don't remember seeing them in the movies.
… Dobby and Kreacher?
There’s Barty Crouch’s house-elf, Winky, from the GOF book and Hokey, Hepzibah Smith’s house-elf
@@YellowBear-kx1ff Oh yeah. Thanks for the reminder
@@Longshanks1690 And Winky
@@michaelodonnell824 “movies”
I didn’t like Rufus Scrimgeour, but I was very sad when I read that he was captured and horrifically tortured by Voldemort for information, yet he refused to give up Harry. What’s that saying, in their last moments people show you who they really are.
@5:38 isn’t that similar to plea bargaining
While "Plea Bargaining" is a HUGE part of US Law Enforcement, it isn't that common in Europe. - One MIGHT get a REDUCED Sentence for "Cooperating" with an ongoing investigation, one rarely gets a "Get Out of Jail" card!
I'd love to know why Azkaban has living standards that are frankly medieval. Victorian prisons were better. Like seriously?
Because they were too worried of doing anything that might upset the dementors.
@@tommoore2012 That may be a point, but do you think things got better after they kicked the dementors out? I doubt it! There's no mention of bathing, or of anywhere to wash their clothes. Sirius was wearing the same robes for 12 years.
I have been saying this for years. Lol Must take a Slytherin to notice. ;)
Amazing video as always!
_sees title_
In the immortal words of Mark Wahlberg, “What? Noooo.”
0:00-0:30 That applies to many governments😅
The ONLY PERSON in the Ministry I would not say is corrupt is Mr. Wessly…
EDIT : I HAVE ALWAYS HATED The Pink Demmentor…. You Know who I mean!
What about Shacklebolt, the minister after Voldy's fall
It's spelt Weasley
@@emperor_msk A massive organization top heavy with rules. I suspect it would not get far with reforms.-
It's a good things Fudge was removed from office. Then, after Voldemort was defeated, the ministry could be given a better leader.
What ppl don’t consider about the house elves is that, it’s actually a lot worse that it seems. Yes they’re enslaved, but, they’ve been abused so badly that they think it’s okay, they even commit self-harm willingly. Their mentality is quite similar to what you’d find in a cult actually, try googling the BITE model
I always think of the 2nd book where, in the space of 5 min, they send an innocent man to jail and suspend another. And they didn't release him as soon as Ginny was taken. Hagrid couldn't have been the one if the attacks were still happening while he wasn't there. As for Dumbledore, I didn't see the Ministry sending anyone to the school in search of the Chamber. Those jerks didn't do anything to find the Chamber, and they have the guts to say Dumbledore didn't do enough? I didn't trust Fudge from that point on. I was so happy when he got fired.
They hired Umbridge, nuff said
To be fair about the aunt Marge thing, that was unintentional, wandless, emotional magic that was beyond Harry's control, whereas he DID willfully cast a Patronus in book 5.
I been thinking the same time how it was easy to concept and the laws never made any sense to me. thanks for the Video!
One thing is the lack of representation from other magical beings. Goblins, centaurs, elves, etc. Their is a severe lack of representation present, and attempts made are often not enough or prevented by the pure-blood and ultra radical members of the Ministry.
Amazing video! (as always) =]
I got busy writing a long reply to a comment and decided to possibly use some of it in my own comment. The Ministry was a mess but I am going to comment on Harry's trial in the fifth book.
After Umbridge failed to kill Harry with Dementors she started a criminal proceeding against him. Harry had broken no law, in fact he had done the Ministry of Magic a favor. Had Dudley been killed Vernon would have told all to any Muggle who'd listen.
A father angered over the death of his son is not something a wise man or woman would ever want to deal with. Vernon would have exposed the magical world for revenge. Had he or Petunia cared about Harry they would have gotten after the Ministry of Magic.
A side note. A healthy family structure is not too valued today but had Harry had a real family there would have been hell to pay for the Ministry taking action against Harry. Strong family structures a valuable and should be sought.
Then there's Harry's trial.
Because of their personal interest in the case Fudge and Umbridge were not judicially qualified to sit in judgement on Harry.
Fudge abrupt rescheduling of the trial suggests an intent to try in absentia and that Harry Potter was supposed to arrive at the Ministry and discover he had been tried in absentia and was already convicted.
Fudge's handling of the trial was terrible. His opening statement,
"inquiry into offenses committed by Harry James Potter..."
implies that Harry is already guilty and converts the trial into a sentencing hearing.
Fudge's questioning Harry from the bench was totally judicially improper.
Harry should not have answered the questions.
Dumbledore's assertion, after the charges had been read, that the evidence that the Dark Lord was back was judicially improper as there was nothing in the charges about Harry asserting that the Dark Lord was back.
If Dumbledore asserts that the Minister has to know it's still no good as a formal trial is not the place for convincing the Minister of the Dark Lord's return.
Fudge tried to get the Wizengamot to vote on a verdict without any argument again showing he wanted to convert the trial to a sentencing hearing.
Dumbledore should not have tried to be an attorney. He should have gotten Harry a barrister that knew about magic. You never have a non-attorney defend a major court case.
Fudge's and Umbridge's actions at Hogwarts after Harry's acquittal were an obvious attempt to reverse the trial. Draco on at least two occasions tried to provoke Harry into a fight. The first time Ron and Hermione stopped him. The second time Harry whaled the tar out of Draco and Draco started that fight.
Parents are at fault in the story for not demanding the removal of Umbridge.
Of course it is a story and I may be over analyzing it.
The judicial system point is just living in America 😂
I think Yaxley was a Death Eater who got in AFTER the Death Eaters took over the Ministry. I don't think that he would have bothered to Imperius some like Pius Thicknese if he himself was in the Ministry, undetected, and thus could have gone for the Minister personally.
When it comes to ministry of magic - I think there is another problem with it - The statue of secrecy... Basically, it fit's into your point about this world refusing to change...
basically, i feel like the wizarding world is very, very isolated from muggle's world, and the ministry uses the image of muggles from few centuries ago, as people discriminating wizards and "burning them on stakes" as means to keep their power - basically - they use fear to keep power over wizarding world.
Example of how isolated this world is from muggle's world, would be Arthur weasley - he is fascinated by them, but he is also completely clueless about even meaningless stuff in muggle world - like rubber duck or not understanding how entrance to the subway/london underground works.
Also, i feel that if the world of HP were to be realistic at all... then while in 90s, the statue of secrecy would be able to work out somewhat (no social media, no youtube or other video platforms no quick internet connection, informations spread much slower than nowadays, mainly through newspapers or TV)... Then I could not see it working in present day - I know that HP universe isn't supposed to be realistic... But realistically, if in present day, some wizards would cast the spell in public, or have a fight or anything that could convince people that wizards exist.. then not even single obliviate or hundreds of thunderbirds would fix this, because all you need is one video going viral, and then the entire world knows, and what would ministry of magic would do? obliviate almost 8 billion people?
Just wondering how Karkarov was judged by British ministry of magic when he was from Bulgaria and was supposed to be accountable to Bulgarian ministry of magic, which was, from what we know, probably way more apathetic and unconcerned regarding Voldemort than the British one.
Politics of the wizarding world - pretty much the same as in the real world.
@5:38 Igor Karkaroff is like the rapper 69 in terms of the fact they both snitched on their friends
Please make a video what if potters return
MY MOST SINCERE AND SERIOUS PIECE OF ADVICE: STOP PROMOTING AND EVEN AS MUCH AS TALKING ABOUT SATANIC/OCCULTIC/MYSTICAL/OCCULTIC ISSUES.
Worse of all, its incompetent
Don’t know if your talking about ministry of magic or the current administration
I do believe that all this corruption was the point. Compared to real life however, it's light. Back room deals are normal, bribing is common place, swinging around influence. The biggest thing the Ministry doesn't seem to have that the Muggle world does is some kind of constitution or written law. The Minister for Magic has a helluva lot more power than anyone realizes.
I personally think if they had a female minister they would be at least a bit better
I mean it depends if they’re like umbridge or not
But like hermione
If they had lost the war umbridge definitely ends up being the minister.
Depends on their character, not their gender
I think the Wizingamont should be elected, and not appointed by the Minister.
So basically the same as our government
Most Governments DIVIDE power between various Branches and thus, in most democracies, the "Head of Government" and the "Head of State" are rarely the same person. In the US where they are, their power is shared (or Limited) by the House of Representatives, the Senate and the US Supreme Court, ALL of which are Independent of the President. In the UK, given the complete Figurehead status of the Monarchy, the Prime Minister is relatively All Powerful but is still (theoretically) answerable to Parliament and (ACTUALLY) answerable to their own Party. Further, regular elections limit the power of ANY Head of Government.
Also, while under Trump, Fox News broadcast whatever Trump said, whether it was real or not, MOST of the Media generally take a sceptical attitude to Government.
HOWEVER, in the Wizarding World, there is no Separation of Powers AND the Media appear to be totally (except for "The Quibbler") under the control of the Ministry.
Further, Regular elections don't seem to exist and a New Minister is "Chosen" (and it is never quite said How) only on the resignation or death of the previous Minister.
Thus the Wizarding World seems to have all the attributes of a One Party Dictatorship, and that is not a healthy form of government
Just like any political system.
I imagine hermione as minister for magic is the Bernie sanders of the magical world.
You imagine her being a hypocritical moron that would fight for elvish rights but then keep some as slaves for herself? The same way Bernie “fights” for the little guy against the wealthy but then over prices his products while underpaying his workers also while living in a large mansion?
A realistic govt.
Do wizards have lawsuits? Can harry potter sue the ministry?
I don't think we are ever told but it's good for a fanfiction.
How would you write a redemption arc for umbridge?
Obliviate her and rewrite her memories completely.
I kinda wish Grindelwald and Dumbeldore had taken over the Wizarding World and revamped it for the Greater Good.
That make me think about Bartemius Crouch Sr. who was so important and powerful, and a "good guy" that no one ask for his relationship with his family. If you didn’t read the book, let me explain: Crouch Sr was abusing and was a strict and absent father to his son, Crouch Jr. That is first why he was a Voldemort adept, for a loving father and protector. His mother was an important part of his life, she saved him actually. Crouch jr was in Azkaban, and his mother begged for Sr to get him out so he accepted and switch the mother and the son with a poly juice potion, so the mother died at Azkaban, and Crouch jr was free. That’s not even the big of the bad part. Starting to abusing his son again and the son starting to simp about Voldemort again, Bartemius Crouch Senior put an IMPERIUS CURSE on his teenager son to adult, with the invisible cloak on day and night on for years at the point that the house elf had pity of him. Until he was powerful enough to defend himself and stop the curse, and be free again at the Quidditch World Cup.
'Evil'? A matter of opinion I'd say, but I don't think so. 'Corrupt'? Good Lord unforgivably so.
Is funny ain't it this wizarding world reflecting our world. 😏
Am I the only person who notices that you’re basically describing the US government to a tee (both Democratic and Republican parties) 🤔
Of course there are some good Dems at least, but this is a *perfect* analogy for US society and our criminal “justice” system… (I say this as a US citizen and long-time activist on issues from abolishing mass incarceration (often misunderstood as “criminal justice reform”) to environmental racism
I agree, however I think the second wizard war loss is a way to make the whole thing better. The Death Eaters and bigots showed themselves allowing them to be removed. With the memory of the war there will not be a Fudge to allow evil to grow
Imagine you being the minister of magic and then voldemort comes to you and youre alone, face to face how frightening is that
Fudge represented the typical civil servant, only thinking about his own position. He is like Sir Humphrey Appleby from the great BBC sitcom Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister in the 1980s
Are you talking about the Wizarding world IN GENERAL? Or are just talking about the British ministry itself?
Isn't that like... the point?
Sounds like politicians and politics currently today!