I'm a 10 handicap 6 shots better than my mates. They always say it's just that I'm a better player around the greens which is true. I use CBX and they still use blade pro wedges. It's an ego thing that they just won't try them. I can't understand why anyone chooses to make the game harder. The CBX does the exact same job but when you miss hit them (which we all do) they give better results because of the forgiveness. Great video review,
Really liked your video comparison. After watching your video, I asked my teaching pro about the CBX wedges. He strongly recommended that I try out a 52 degree. I like the forgiving features on full shots. Short pitches and chip shots seem easier to control. So I’ve added a 56 degree CBX to the bag. Very happy, and thanks for peaking my interest in the CBX wedges.
Nicely done! You provided a good comparison that was easy to watch. It was interesting to see that there really were some visible differences in your results… and not necessarily what I would have expected. I’ll definitely check out more of your content. 👍
Been playing CBX wedges for the past few years. Have a "well used" 54 that is my go to around the greens. Going to update it with a 56/12 CBX ZipCore. Also have 50 CBX and 52 CBX2 that I alternate at the GW. As I have a 46PW (TM SLDR) - I can gap easily 4* or 6* depending on the wedge makeup. Top of the bag is a 58 CBX that I only use for short side up and downs. Have played Vokeys, Ping Eye 2's and Tommy Armour 845 Silver Scots (talking 1980's on the Ping and the TA). Have thoroughly enjoyed the CBX wedges and will continue to use them a my primary gamer. Your video helped me opt for the CBX over potentially the RTX. Good work...
I have used both wedges. The CBX is my favorite. Why? I also use CBX irons and the feel is the same. It’s all about feel and personal preference. Good video!
Great test thanks. I love Cleveland wedges. Last year I special-ordered CBX full face w graphite shafts 56 & 60. They accidently shipped me the RTX instead but I ended up keeping them figuring why not go with the better player wedge even though I'm a mid-handicapper. I do like the RTX feel but your test confirms I left some extra forgiveness on the table bypassing the CBX.
I will also add that the advantages of the CBX ZipCore wedge are more noticeable for full-swing clubs like a gap wedge or pitching wedge, and I would personally still prefer using bladed wedges for closer approach shots and touchy chip shots around the green. For left-handed golfers, however, it should be noted that the CBX ZipCore does not come in anything lower than a 50*-degree loft, whereas righties can get this wedge in 44/46/48 lofts if so desired. But in a nutshell, there are many handicappers out there who will have to decide where they want the extra forgiveness that the CBX ZipCore wedge offers, and where they don't. For me, there is no chance I would replace my bladed sand wedge and lob wedge with a CBX ZipCore wedge.
Honestly, this is an awesome video. I'm between these two sets of wedges right now too! Thanks for the demo, great review! I'd like to see certain lies start with the CBX and some bunker play.
I’m a 3HC and just started playing a CBX 44, 50, and 56 after hitting my buddies 52. I gap all my clubs 6 degrees to give me roughly 20 yard gaps and only carry 10 clubs. I just choke down an inch or so on inbetween shots…might be a mental thing or maybe there’s something to less choice in clubs, but I really don’t care because it works for me. Anyway, was playing Wilson staff blade wedges and I believe these CBX’s are going to get me closer to scratch…missed wedge shots are where my game suffers the most pain. Great review man, happy golfing.
Great Video! I switched from the RTX to the CBX Zipcore 50 last year for the same reasons you just layed out! I still use my Jaws Full Toe 56 for 75 yrds in.
Always love watching your videos. One great one. Can you also do testing of CBX 50/58 vs Smart Sole 50/58 from fairway, 1st cut, rough as well as Sand. TIA.
The CBX ZipCore is an extremely forgiving wedge with excellent turf interaction, but the wedge head feels too lightweight if you end up swapping out to a heavier, stiffer wedge shaft, which for me is a 125gram wedge shaft. For those using the stock 115gram spinner shaft the CBX ZipCore wedge comes with, however, this may not be as noticeable an issue. But for those players who prefer more feel, more feedback, and a more bottom-heavy/head-heavy swing feel, stick to the Cleveland RTX series wedges, although those will be less forgiving on mis-hits. That said, based on the forgiveness factor alone, the CBX ZipCore wedge could be one of those strange golf clubs one may decide to keep using in their bag anyway despite not loving how it feels when actually swinging it.
I use a 50 and 54 cbx2 wedge but I'm using a 58 rtx zip core wedge for when I need to open the face a little and get up over obstacles and land soft. I do like mixing this set for this reason.
Absolutely great review. Hate when reviews just show the single new club with no comparison to current club in the bag. Can you explain the advantages or disadvantages to the full face versions of these clubs? Got a new sub for this type of review content.
Just picked up the CBX 56 degree as I had a 54 & 60. New clubs I purchased recently came with a 52 so needed something between the 52 and 60. This was perfect and with 12 degree bounce gives great forgiveness all round.
I have both. Tested both with multiple shafts prior to purchase. Of all the shafts (both graphite and steel) the steel spinner shaft worked best and was the difference maker.
I have the cbx zipcore for my 56° wedge, and it's my favorite wedge that I've ever owned. Granted, I have very limited experience with specialty wedges, but it performs very well for me.
I have a CBX and some Hogan equalizer wedges and am getting some Mizuno S 23 wedges.. The CBX is great for miss shots with I believe more forgivness then the RTX but the Mizuno I believe will bet them both..Can't wait till they get here...Thanks...
I just got the ZX5 irons 4-GW and I'm thinking about going w their sister company Cleveland for my 54/60. Love the comparison video. I'm a 13 and I'm leaning towards the CBX. The RTX is a MUCH better looking club, but I'll look better scoring a 87 vs 92 because i got up and down more w the uglier club!
Remember to change the rotation when you test clubs. Most players will hit the second club better. Excellent video. Sure you need a new wedge? Your action is solid. You could play either. Just practice. Really do not need the CBX. I find the new RTX6 with Zipcore is the best of both worlds. Very forgiving and more versatile than the CBX, but has the same tech. A little sleeker too.
I don't know about my action being solid but I'm glad you think so. I'm more interested in forgiveness than versatility or sleekness and I find the CBX to be more forgiving for me in the 58 degree. Everyone's different and I'm glad you found what works for you. Also, that video is 6 months old so if I didn't rotate clubs I apologize. I don't even remember the video.
Follow-up review on this CBX ZipCore wedge: Currently using/testing it in a 50* gap wedge, and even though it doesn't feel or sound as nice as hitting a bladed wedge, I will continue using it for now just for the sheer amount of forgiveness it offers, especially when playing in the current season's wet, soft, and mucky conditions. Will probably go back to using my bladed gap wedge when the turf is drier and firmer in the heat of summer, but will also probably end up keeping the 50-degree ZipCore gap wedge around as a backup option when turf conditions are less than ideal. As previously stated, the CBX ZipCore seems to feel designed more for full swings, and will not give the more experienced golfer the same kind of feel and feedback on short touch shots and chips around the greens that bladed wedges will, while a beginner or amateur player may not care about this aspect, however, and may just want the playability and forgiveness that the ZipCore wedge offers, regardless of feel.
Doing a bag purge shortly and I was agonizing over the rtx, cbx and sticking with vokeys. I'm seriously considering cavity backs now that I'm maturing and realizing that while the traditional/classic me loves the look of the vokeys, I realistically would be better off with cavity back wedges (I'm a 13 handicapbut hoping to drop to a 10)
I know what the test showed of course but as an opinion the rtx was the better wedge. A 58° you want height and you were getting that. The cbx wasnt givng you that so for this degree of wedge it was hard to judge where the ball was ending up. Not so much milling on the face perhaps. The rtx was the better fit for you because from all those lies if you wanted a lower flight you just use a 50/52/54.
Regardless of which head I do factor in the shaft characteristics when ordering wedges. I have the CBX 56 with the KBS Rev 2.0 regular flex shaft and have no problem getting height with it. It works much better than my $210 dollar Vokey.
I’m a big RTX fan and my RTX4 still have a bit of life left, the decision I’ll have to make soon though is RTX6 standard vs full face? From a totally selfish perspective, would be great to see a comparison between RTX4 and full face RTX6. My guess is a lot of folks will be in a similar boat and it seems like a no brainer to go full face, but are there any negatives? Love your work dude.
I ended up trying cavity back wedges and was just amazed how much more forgiving they were. since I don't play every week any more it really helps. Ended up getting Callaway CB wedges at a close out price.
I used to try the specialty shots with stock wedges and sometimes it worked and when it didn’t it would usually end up a bogey or worse. I decided to go to against the grain and common technique and just use the wedges just like my other irons. No intentional lob shot or working the ball. Just selecting the right loft and swing, and letting the CB wedge do its job. Exception little chip and run, and even then I started to use them like a putter , and wedge game got better with less skill. The only thing I modified is that wedges are not full swing shots for me, So Pw, Gw, Sw, and lob 58. Are never more than3/4 but can be less when needed. Looking forward to the new driver choice, I feel yah . Did the same thing went back to my previous driver. It wasn’t broken to fix. We always think newer is better , and with certain clubs we never change if it works.
It was a little strange. It definitely flies lower than the RTX. Since the video I've learned you can hit them high also. The normal trajectory around the greens is just lower than I expected.
I have a CBX Full Face 60° I got at a yard sale for $5. My prior shortest wedge was 56° so it fits my set perfectly. It is great on a full shot from around 80yrds and chipping/pitching when I want to go higher and stop shorter. When it's time to replace my wedges, I'll definitely be looking at Cleveland.
CBX4 is even better. If these wedges are for mid to higher score players ….two things suggested to Cleveland: 1. 14* of bounce on 56* is way too much , 12 at most 2. Shafts paired with are again way too stiff….instead of graphite 80 gr Mamiya Dart go down to @ 60 gr. For exemple even Titleist offer a choice for these players ( including me ) of a Tensei shaft AV AM2 « A » much easier to play. But these wedges are excellent and FUN to play instead of creating anxiety. ErEf, Montréal, Canada
I'm a 10 handicap 6 shots better than my mates. They always say it's just that I'm a better player around the greens which is true. I use CBX and they still use blade pro wedges. It's an ego thing that they just won't try them. I can't understand why anyone chooses to make the game harder. The CBX does the exact same job but when you miss hit them (which we all do) they give better results because of the forgiveness. Great video review,
Thank you so much! SO many golfers let ego hurt their score!
This is how club testing videos should be done. Nice job!
Thank you!!
This is the best wedge testing I've ever seen. MSH becoming my favorite YT golf channel. Thanks for the videos!
I appreciate that so much!
This year I went from vokey and rtx zip core to the CBX wedge set and I am absolutely in love I have a 52, 56 and 60 and I'll take these over anything
The 58 is going in the bag. We will see about the rest!
@@mistahshorthitter the cbx 58 is the best. I went from RTX zip core to cbx. I don't even have to think about my wedge shots anymore..great review
@@golfceo65 Thank you!
Really liked your video comparison. After watching your video, I asked my teaching pro about the CBX wedges. He strongly recommended that I try out a 52 degree. I like the forgiving features on full shots. Short pitches and chip shots seem easier to control. So I’ve added a 56 degree CBX to the bag. Very happy, and thanks for peaking my interest in the CBX wedges.
Glad it was helpful!
Nothing compares to the real life ! Thanks for sharing.
I was looking for an easy wedge and intended to choose the RTX. Finally, I'll go for the CBX.
Thank you for watching!
Nicely done! You provided a good comparison that was easy to watch. It was interesting to see that there really were some visible differences in your results… and not necessarily what I would have expected. I’ll definitely check out more of your content. 👍
I appreciate it!
Great review and great swings! Just sold me on the CBX.
Thank you for watching!
I salute your honest and live shot reviews sir. I picked up the CBX because of the feel and just easier to hit cant wait for them to come in.
Thank you!
Been playing CBX wedges for the past few years. Have a "well used" 54 that is my go to around the greens. Going to update it with a 56/12 CBX ZipCore. Also have 50 CBX and 52 CBX2 that I alternate at the GW. As I have a 46PW (TM SLDR) - I can gap easily 4* or 6* depending on the wedge makeup. Top of the bag is a 58 CBX that I only use for short side up and downs. Have played Vokeys, Ping Eye 2's and Tommy Armour 845 Silver Scots (talking 1980's on the Ping and the TA). Have thoroughly enjoyed the CBX wedges and will continue to use them a my primary gamer. Your video helped me opt for the CBX over potentially the RTX. Good work...
Thank you so much! I'm happy it helped!
great comparison, i switched to cbx wedges last year and they have made a huge improvement in my short game
Thank you so much!
Great review - purchased a set of CBX after watching
Thank you so much!
I play the CBX full face 56 & 60. Best wedges i ever used. Forgiving and consistent. Enjoyed your content. 👍
Awesome! Thank you!
I have used both wedges. The CBX is my favorite. Why? I also use CBX irons and the feel is the same. It’s all about feel and personal preference. Good video!
Thank you Len!!
Great test thanks. I love Cleveland wedges. Last year I special-ordered CBX full face w graphite shafts 56 & 60. They accidently shipped me the RTX instead but I ended up keeping them figuring why not go with the better player wedge even though I'm a mid-handicapper. I do like the RTX feel but your test confirms I left some extra forgiveness on the table bypassing the CBX.
Thank you so much!
really well done here. I went with the CBX wedges and am really happy with them. I give you a wave a woodruff next time I see you.
Thank you so much!
Excellent review. I am looking forward to other equipment reviews you will be doing.
More to come!
I will also add that the advantages of the CBX ZipCore wedge are more noticeable for full-swing clubs like a gap wedge or pitching wedge, and I would personally still prefer using bladed wedges for closer approach shots and touchy chip shots around the green.
For left-handed golfers, however, it should be noted that the CBX ZipCore does not come in anything lower than a 50*-degree loft, whereas righties can get this wedge in 44/46/48 lofts if so desired.
But in a nutshell, there are many handicappers out there who will have to decide where they want the extra forgiveness that the CBX ZipCore wedge offers, and where they don't.
For me, there is no chance I would replace my bladed sand wedge and lob wedge with a CBX ZipCore wedge.
Thank you for watching!
Honestly, this is an awesome video. I'm between these two sets of wedges right now too! Thanks for the demo, great review! I'd like to see certain lies start with the CBX and some bunker play.
Sounds good. Thank you!
I’m a 3HC and just started playing a CBX 44, 50, and 56 after hitting my buddies 52. I gap all my clubs 6 degrees to give me roughly 20 yard gaps and only carry 10 clubs. I just choke down an inch or so on inbetween shots…might be a mental thing or maybe there’s something to less choice in clubs, but I really don’t care because it works for me. Anyway, was playing Wilson staff blade wedges and I believe these CBX’s are going to get me closer to scratch…missed wedge shots are where my game suffers the most pain. Great review man, happy golfing.
Thank you so much John!
Great Video! I switched from the RTX to the CBX Zipcore 50 last year for the same reasons you just layed out! I still use my Jaws Full Toe 56 for 75 yrds in.
Good choice!
Great test. Subscribed!
Thanks for the sub!
Excellent test review. I’ve been using a Callaway SureOut 56° for a few years. I love the full face look. But I’m going to look at the CBX. Thanks!
Thank you for watching!
Just grabbed a 52°, 56°, 60° CBX on sale. Couldn’t beat the price. Judging by your video I chose well. Thanks!
Thank you for watching! Good choice!
Always love watching your videos. One great one. Can you also do testing of CBX 50/58 vs Smart Sole 50/58 from fairway, 1st cut, rough as well as Sand. TIA.
Thank you! I'll see if I can get those.
Great test, very thorough.
👍👍👍
Thank you!
I tested Both as well , I liked the CBX better. The other forgiving wedge I liked a lot was the Mizuno es21! Thanks
Thank you Bill!
The CBX ZipCore is an extremely forgiving wedge with excellent turf interaction, but the wedge head feels too lightweight if you end up swapping out to a heavier, stiffer wedge shaft, which for me is a 125gram wedge shaft.
For those using the stock 115gram spinner shaft the CBX ZipCore wedge comes with, however, this may not be as noticeable an issue.
But for those players who prefer more feel, more feedback, and a more bottom-heavy/head-heavy swing feel, stick to the Cleveland RTX series wedges, although those will be less forgiving on mis-hits.
That said, based on the forgiveness factor alone, the CBX ZipCore wedge could be one of those strange golf clubs one may decide to keep using in their bag anyway despite not loving how it feels when actually swinging it.
Thank you for watching!
I use a 50 and 54 cbx2 wedge but I'm using a 58 rtx zip core wedge for when I need to open the face a little and get up over obstacles and land soft. I do like mixing this set for this reason.
Sounds great! I'm going to do a little more testing with the trajectory.
Whats your handicap?
I’m a 20. I’ve really liked this combo this season!&
Love these breakdowns
Thank you for watching!
Absolutely great review. Hate when reviews just show the single new club with no comparison to current club in the bag. Can you explain the advantages or disadvantages to the full face versions of these clubs?
Got a new sub for this type of review content.
@@Power5 I'll see if I can get the full face. Thank you!
Just picked up the CBX 56 degree as I had a 54 & 60. New clubs I purchased recently came with a 52 so needed something between the 52 and 60. This was perfect and with 12 degree bounce gives great forgiveness all round.
Very nice! Thank you for watching!
I have an old 50 CBX. One of my all time favs
Very nice!
Great test. I have a 56 rtx and 52 cbx in my bag. I’m way more
Consistent with the cbx
Thank you Jason!
I have both. Tested both with multiple shafts prior to purchase. Of all the shafts (both graphite and steel) the steel spinner shaft worked best and was the difference maker.
@@jherl8307 Thank you!
Great video, but i miss bunker shots
Thank you!
Nice video. I carry 58* RTX for sand. 54*, 50*, 46* CBX yes more forgiving.
Thank you for watching!
I have the cbx zipcore for my 56° wedge, and it's my favorite wedge that I've ever owned. Granted, I have very limited experience with specialty wedges, but it performs very well for me.
Thank you Joseph!
I have the previous generation of the cbx wedge in a 54 degree. Great club and very easy to chip with.
So true!
I have a CBX and some Hogan equalizer wedges and am getting some Mizuno S 23 wedges.. The CBX is great for miss shots with I believe more forgivness then the RTX but the Mizuno I believe will bet them both..Can't wait till they get here...Thanks...
Thank you for watching!
I just got the ZX5 irons 4-GW and I'm thinking about going w their sister company Cleveland for my 54/60. Love the comparison video. I'm a 13 and I'm leaning towards the CBX. The RTX is a MUCH better looking club, but I'll look better scoring a 87 vs 92 because i got up and down more w the uglier club!
Thank you so much!
Nice wedge game and demo. How do they fare from the bunker?
I like both from the bunker. Maybe, I'll do another video.
Remember to change the rotation when you test clubs. Most players will hit the second club better. Excellent video. Sure you need a new wedge? Your action is solid. You could play either. Just practice. Really do not need the CBX. I find the new RTX6 with Zipcore is the best of both worlds. Very forgiving and more versatile than the CBX, but has the same tech. A little sleeker too.
I don't know about my action being solid but I'm glad you think so. I'm more interested in forgiveness than versatility or sleekness and I find the CBX to be more forgiving for me in the 58 degree. Everyone's different and I'm glad you found what works for you. Also, that video is 6 months old so if I didn't rotate clubs I apologize. I don't even remember the video.
Carry a 52 cbx4 and rtx full face 2, love them
Awesome!
Follow-up review on this CBX ZipCore wedge:
Currently using/testing it in a 50* gap wedge, and even though it doesn't feel or sound as nice as hitting a bladed wedge, I will continue using it for now just for the sheer amount of forgiveness it offers, especially when playing in the current season's wet, soft, and mucky conditions.
Will probably go back to using my bladed gap wedge when the turf is drier and firmer in the heat of summer, but will also probably end up keeping the 50-degree ZipCore gap wedge around as a backup option when turf conditions are less than ideal.
As previously stated, the CBX ZipCore seems to feel designed more for full swings, and will not give the more experienced golfer the same kind of feel and feedback on short touch shots and chips around the greens that bladed wedges will, while a beginner or amateur player may not care about this aspect, however, and may just want the playability and forgiveness that the ZipCore wedge offers, regardless of feel.
Thank you for watching!
Doing a bag purge shortly and I was agonizing over the rtx, cbx and sticking with vokeys. I'm seriously considering cavity backs now that I'm maturing and realizing that while the traditional/classic me loves the look of the vokeys, I realistically would be better off with cavity back wedges (I'm a 13 handicapbut hoping to drop to a 10)
Thank you for watching!
I know what the test showed of course but as an opinion the rtx was the better wedge. A 58° you want height and you were getting that. The cbx wasnt givng you that so for this degree of wedge it was hard to judge where the ball was ending up. Not so much milling on the face perhaps. The rtx was the better fit for you because from all those lies if you wanted a lower flight you just use a 50/52/54.
Thank you for watching!
Regardless of which head I do factor in the shaft characteristics when ordering wedges. I have the CBX 56 with the KBS Rev 2.0 regular flex shaft and have no problem getting height with it. It works much better than my $210 dollar Vokey.
Thank you for watching!
Good video would be nice to see the spin rate between the two
Sounds like a future video. Thank you!
I'm crap at these, guess i nee to practice a lot more. Good test.
Thank you for watching!
what shaft is in each of those wedges? Thx enjoyed the video!
TT Dynamic Gold TI Spinner. Thank you for watching!
I’m a big RTX fan and my RTX4 still have a bit of life left, the decision I’ll have to make soon though is RTX6 standard vs full face? From a totally selfish perspective, would be great to see a comparison between RTX4 and full face RTX6. My guess is a lot of folks will be in a similar boat and it seems like a no brainer to go full face, but are there any negatives? Love your work dude.
I appreciate it Chris. I'd I can get my hands on the full face I'll do it. Thank you!
I ended up trying cavity back wedges and was just amazed how much more forgiving they were.
since I don't play every week any more it really helps. Ended up getting Callaway CB wedges at a close out price.
I like that idea. It just makes so much sense to get more forgiving clubs. Thank you for watching!
I used to try the specialty shots with stock wedges and sometimes it worked and when it didn’t it would usually end up a bogey or worse.
I decided to go to against the grain and common technique and just use the wedges just like my other irons. No intentional lob shot or working the ball.
Just selecting the right loft and swing, and letting the CB wedge do its job.
Exception little chip and run, and even then I started to use them like a putter , and wedge game got better with less skill.
The only thing I modified is that wedges are not full swing shots for me,
So Pw, Gw, Sw, and lob 58. Are never more than3/4 but can be less when needed.
Looking forward to the new driver choice, I feel yah . Did the same thing went back to my previous driver. It wasn’t broken to fix.
We always think newer is better , and with certain clubs we never change if it works.
That low with a 58? Wow, I have test those CBX wedges. Thanks
It was a little strange. It definitely flies lower than the RTX. Since the video I've learned you can hit them high also. The normal trajectory around the greens is just lower than I expected.
@@mistahshorthitter thanks, for the info. Play well.
I love my cbx wedges they have changed my short game. I replaced my pw with the 44 degree then added the 50 and 56.
Nice!
Exact same set up I switched to as a 3HC…so easy to hit.
I love Cleveland wedges.. I love my Rtx 6
I hope you enjoy the video!
I have a CBX Full Face 60° I got at a yard sale for $5. My prior shortest wedge was 56° so it fits my set perfectly. It is great on a full shot from around 80yrds and chipping/pitching when I want to go higher and stop shorter. When it's time to replace my wedges, I'll definitely be looking at Cleveland.
Thank you!
Do you prefer steel or graphite shafts in your wedges and do you use the same stiffness as your 9i or stiffer?
I like steel. Same stiffness. Thank you for watching!
I use my Vokeys, do you have a wedge yardage system.?
Not currently. I do when I'm working on my game. I'm going to begin practicing again so I'll do a video on that. Thank you.
Let's Do a test for Callaway mack daddy cb wedge vs Cleveland cbx 2 wedge?
I'd love it if I had them!
Kuphal Burgs
I've come to the realization that it's not the arrow it's the Indian. That said; I do like my $2.00 thrift store find 52^ Cleveland wedge
I found a nice 48 from Goodwill. Thank you for watching!
Looks like the RTX has more feel to it.
Thank you!
Zip Core … best wedges in golf
Thank you !
Guiseppe Mews
I learned nothing
@@jcmoye1 Thank you for watching!
CBX4 is even better. If these wedges are for mid to higher score players ….two things suggested to Cleveland: 1. 14* of bounce on 56* is way too much , 12 at most 2. Shafts paired with are again way too stiff….instead of graphite 80 gr Mamiya Dart go down to @ 60 gr. For exemple even Titleist offer a choice for these players ( including me ) of a Tensei shaft AV AM2 « A » much easier to play.
But these wedges are excellent and FUN to play instead of creating anxiety.
ErEf, Montréal, Canada
@@aliasErEf Thank you for watching!