I got recently 3 new RTX Zipcore wedges in 50, 54 and 60 degrees in a very good fitting session. They were the clubs that offered me most benefits. I really enjoy them.
I have to say that I fully agree with your findings here Pete. But the only thing I would say in difference is that I found the Cleveland wedges easier to control then the vokeys due to the weighting of the vokeys being heavier and in delicate shots they were a bit harder to control. So I have been playing the Cleveland wedges and I have since shaved off more strokes.
Over past 10 years i've had SM6's, SM7's, then SM8's last year and sold them and custom ordered TM MG3 wedges, 52 deg and a 56 TW grind. The TW grind has a shaved off heel and a beveled off leading edge for pitches and chips off of tight lies. Works great. These will wear out in about 3 years and then i'll move into SM10's !
Absolutely loved my Mizuno’s. Tried the PXG’s. Immediately didn’t like them. Currently running with the Vokey’s and definitely like them, but maybe not as much as the Mizuno’s.
I'm playing T22 48, 54, and 60 degree wedges that I got this year, and they're my favorite clubs in the bag. The 48 is probably my favorite club I've ever hit too, its unreal.
I tried about 8 different wedges including vokey, rtx6 and Mizuno t22. For me, I got most feel and consistency from the rtx6. I now have them in my bag.
I have had Cleveland RTX 4’s in my bag for a few years and really loved them. Went to get new wedges, and was just going to upgrade to the RTX 6. However, ended up testing all kinds of wedges to see what I like. To my surprise, I ended up getting all new of the Wilson Staff model forged wedges and am absolutely in love with them. They are incredibly underrated. I have become slightly a Wilson fanboy as I’ve recently switched to their ball as well! Definitely worth a try
Nothing to be ashamed about being a Wilson fanboy 🙂. They still hold the record for most majors won, and they still produce one of the best looking and best feeling irons EVER. My next set, this year, will be a Staff Model/CB blended set. I also play the RTX4 wedges but will have a look at the Staff Model wedges too.
Enjoying my sugar Daddys PXG. Played the Vokey previously and the Sugar Daddys are definitely a more consistent club for me. On the other hand my son went from a PXG to a Cleveland and is extremely happy with the switch. Think it is what ever feels more comfortable for the individual. I think its definitely worth going for a fitting to find out what works for your individual game. Almost all the major brands make extremely good wedges now.
Have the last version of Zip Core and they work crazy well in wetter conditions, crazy awesome spin too. Absolutely love them. 52°, 56°, 60° all mid bounce.
100% agree. I just got the 56 and 60 (12 deg bounce) and they’re the best - AND most forgiving - wedges I’ve ever used (of Vokeys, Clevelands, MD4’s, etc). Roger Cleveland joined Callaway in ‘96 (after leaving Cleveland) and, IMHO, he’s turned them into one of the best wedge manufacturers in the game. Hit ‘em straight! 👊🏼😉
For me it was the other way around. Callaway had a more flippy feel with it's weight more towards the toe, harder to control. TM is way more balanced but has a smaller club face and bigger faced wedges might feel more forgiving. Callaway hi-toe I found excellent from the deep bunker. All over it was TM Vokey that made it for me.
Went with the ping glide 4.0, couldn’t beat them with anything else. But let’s be honest, basically everything is really good right now. Everything should be played dependent. Have fun.
I picked up a Wilson harmonized sole grind 56 wedge at a thrift store, hands down best club I ever bought. It might just be 56 is so consistent around greens. But inside 70 it’s a guarantee on green and high percentage of 15 ft or closer to pin. I love that wedge.
Vokey wedges are the best ... completely agree on the control with approaches ... I've found a few other things more promising around the green at times (such as some TM milled grinds) but cannot beat a Vokey in overall performance (IMO)
I love my sm9 wedges by far the best wedges I've ever used. I just replaced my Wilson staff hi toe wedges with them and they are streets ahead of the Wilsons in every category. Better feel, sound, spin, control and distance control.
Surprised you have not put the Glide 4.0 in there. I’ve played Ping Eye, Cleaveland, Vokey SM6, Miura, Mizuno T20 and now moved to glide 4.0. 45,50,54,58. Love the E Grind in the 58. So easy out of bunkers and rough.
I’ve got the milled grind 3 raw face and they are brilliant in and around the green very versatile stopping power attack pins - totally agree the fuller shots you can get less forgiveness distance control / feel isn’t the best .. but I think you adapt to your clubs .. they don’t swing themselves
I have tried Vokey wedges a few times but always go back to Mizuno .... The feel is king for me and currently play the T20 .I played Scratch wedges for a few years and they were excellent !
Currently using Ping 4.0. Couldn't be happier with them. Although I'm surprised they aren't in this, there's so little between them now, you could have had three or four other brands here. All in the eye of the holder now.
I left Vokey 10 years ago, difficulty gapping into my Cleveland irons, went to Cleveland wedges, a beautiful journey, currently 46, 50, 54 CBX ZipCore, 58 RTX ZipCore. Recently went Launcher XL with Recoil shafts, pulled PW, DW, went back to 46 & 50 CBX ZipCores!
I like my ZipCore wedges. I use a 50 and a 56. I’ve probably used almost every wedge out there and I like those the best. Mine are the older ones. They feel great.
Having nine generations of Vokey speaks volumes for the design and build quality and consistency; with all the professionals continuing to use them, that's a living testament. That said, my personal preference remains with the Cleveland legacy wedges. I keep coming back to my 588 Gunmetals, superb feel and touch with still plenty of bite and spin after two+ decades in and out of my bag. They have also retained their black finish even after many, many rounds and practice, unlike the newer line iterations from Cleveland.
I've been gaming Cleveland Wedges for almost 15 years, and they've never let me down. My wedges are the best part of my game due to the confidence these clubs provide. Currently, we have 50, 56 (bent to 55), and 60 in the bag.
There's no such thing as 'the best' in golf clubs, just "what is best for me". I'm pleased you mentioned that it has been a long process of testing Pete, because one fitting session (especially if indoors) has no chance of identifying what is "best for me". Sadly, few of us have any other option so hearing your reasoning helps identify options and solidify ideas. 👍
Cleveland wedges are unbeatable but my 58 degree sugar daddy is spectacular. 5 yrs old and the amount of spin is still insane, especially on short shots. U can spin it from anywhere.
I have been using Taylormade MG1 for a few years now and loved them. Switched to Vokey this year and i will never get a different brand. There is a reason why everyone uses them.
Pete I feel like you missed one that really surprised me and that's the mizuno T22 I would like to see you give it a go. As much as I hate it (I'm a big titleist guy) the mizuno feels so much better and the look at address is so nice. I got rid of my SM9 for a trio of them.
I just did the opposite. Tried to stick with the mizuno for another season but I couldn’t. Like the Vokey look and grind and bounce offerings that suit my game better. It’s all personal preference.
@BillBradley very interesting. Maybe after a few more rounds I'll go back but currently I'm liking them. I really loved my SM9s I've been using vokey wedges since 2008 or so and I feel most confident with those.
Vokeys have never been the highest spinning for me. But Ive played them for 15 years because I know exactly how theyll perform and Ill get the tightest spin dispersion each and every time I make the contact I should.
Hope no one goes sarcastic on me but I’ve found some surprisingly good results from a.......Northwestern ! If you’re unfamiliar with it, it is a very cheap low end brand (in all of their products). Now I know, it’s not going to outperform any vokey, however if anyone gets a chance to hit one you may be surprised. Cons: putting up with sneers from playing partners, not the feel of the high end ones reviewed here, spin is , shall we say limited. Pros: can hit it as far as these, still decent feel, will plough through the deepest, thickest rough with ease I guarantee, and!.....about $39 ! Don’t scoff until you’ve tried it.
I went to the SM8 last year, after playing Cleveland for years. I think the Cleveland looks better at address, just suits my eye more. I am going back to Cleveland this year
My advice is that once you find a set of wedges that can produce shots that you want around the green, then never, ever change. I have a friend who has a 40-year-old wedge and he is a magician with it. He can make the ball talk. It is a rare day when he doesn't get the ball near the hole or in it. So find your wedge, and keep it.
I’m playing with MD 5 sand wedge and jaws raw lob wedge my workability around the greens are just superior I wouldn’t do anything to jinx it. These new wedges you just recommended are correct!
Pete, I find that the MG3 regulars should have been included. They were the best by My Golf Spy and I hit them the best of all. Ping also makes some amazing wedges in wet(the best) and dry and should have been included.
@peterfinchgolf. You need to try the bettinardi wedges. Only wedge ive found that took the vokeys out of my bag. Now I bought a few sets of the 3.0s and the 5.0 are their newest rendition. But also know a few people I recommend them to that took vokeys out of their bags as well!
Let's Do a test for Callaway Mack Daddy CB wedge vs Cleveland CBX 2 wedge? i.e. 30 yards over the bunker onto the green with medium to less green to work with.
Surprised u didn’t try the jaws raw…to me they have the better feel vs the vokey. They’re super easy to flight down too…low one hopper stopper machines.
switched to cleveland’s from vokeys about 6 years ago, and i think swinging rebar has better feel thank vokeys now. the new rtx 6’s are ridiculously good though
Oddly I have never gotten on with the Titelist weges. I am using the Taylor Made Hi-Toe. I like them for all the reasons Peter gave, with the addition that I find them to be one of the easiest clubs to hit out of bunkers that I have ever played.
Just bought some new wedges as my old ones are getting a bit worn out and was contemplating between the SM9s, RTX 6s and Raw Jaws... ended up going with the black satin RTX 6s they looked very appealing, hope I love them.
I went from the zipcore to Hi-3 and I absolutely love em. I feel like I can do anything around the green, whatever the stance, grip, face you name it and I only do 3/4 shots with my 56 and 60 anyways. I would love to try SM sometime, only problem I have are all the different grinds. According to the selector I should have a 50-8F, 56-10S and 60-8M
Peter, given you are from the famously damp North West of England, it would be interesting to see the results of a comparison between the Vokeys and the RTX6 zipcores in the less than optimum conditions in your clip. I have a sneaky feeling that if you factored that in to your considerations, the zipcores would be in your bag rather than the vokeys.
Played a 56 Cleveland RTX and a 60 Vokey SM9 got the Hi Toes as a gift and for me i like the cleveland best for full shots Hi Toe the best around the green Vokey's feel the best
Had the TM MG3 line and was extremely underwhelmed with them. I dumped them for the Jaws Raw and Full Toe from Callaway. I'm beyond happy with my Callaway wedges. I also had SM9s and didn't like the feel of them. Personal preference is different for everyone.
Vokeys are good yes .. but they are not true forgings, so they will never go in my bag. Great review as well, thanks. I play a mizuno t4 52 raw and a very old but much loved MacGregor tourney 58 wedge.
Interested why you didnt test the Milled Grind 3 wedge, not the high toe version. Smaller shaoe, better on full shots. Interesting. I have the milled grind 3 TW edition 56 and 60° and theyre the best wedges i tested. I had the milled grind 2 versions too.
I lost my wedges and had to play with some bullshit Bombtech wedges.. after playing them instead of my $200 Vokey wedges I realized all wedges are the same and I can play any wedge. I’m also just a naturally good wedge player so maybe that’s the reason but I’ve never had trouble with any wedge, they’re the easiest club to hit, I can be slicing my 7 iron off the planet and I can always hit a dead straight 100 yard wedge no matter what, wedges are easy and fun.
I got the SM9's and it has been love hate; on bad days I don't want to shape shots. I just want a simple stock pitch to the middle of the green which is very difficult...On good days, however, you feel like Spieth throwing darts!
I'm surprised with you playing in wet weather so often that you didnt put the Zipcores in the bag, think you would just see more consistent results for the majority of your rounds.
It would be interesting to see your Vokey lofts and grinds and bounce you selected and why. I know some players like a full grind with more bounce in some wedges with the next one in the bag with less bounce and grind relief. Are the shafts you have for wedges the same as your other higher irons?
Right now I have SM8s, and I love them. Very consistant. I am curious about wedge with grooves all the way to the toe, like the hi-toe. I like to hit more toward the toe out of the sand or thick rough.
Interesting results. When I got new wedges last year just after the SM9 release I ended up with Cleveland RTX5. I got better spin numbers, 500 rpm, more than the SM9s! I haven’t noticed any drop off in the shots I play from my SM8s to the Clevelands. The only difference I saw was the 25/ wedge price difference!
The 56 down to 46 lofts in Vokeys are fine even though they are not forged any longer, they feel ok but the 58 and above have a hollow section in them to reduce weight in their design, and that clicky sound they give off is annoying to my ear. I own a set and you can definitely hear the difference on shots compared to a wedge that doesn't have that hollow section , such as a Cobra or Callaway or Edel. I love the PXG Sugar daddy's those are amazing feeling and looking wedges.
i just got some new wedges i got the sm9 in a 56 and then a cleveland 60 degree to get the ball in the air a little easier and i absolutely love both of them
This review should be updated to swap out the TM Hi-Toe for the new Milled Grind 4. It is an amazing wedge. I have two in the bag and will be replacing my two Hi-Toes in the future with the MG 4.
I know you can’t test every manufacturers wedge out there but there are some less expensive forged wedges that it would have been great to see you try. Ie Wilson Staff, Cobra Snake. The other thing I recently learned about volkey wedges is the pros are forged and what is sold in stores are cast. Where using forged or cast volkey wedges?
I got recently 3 new RTX Zipcore wedges in 50, 54 and 60 degrees in a very good fitting session. They were the clubs that offered me most benefits. I really enjoy them.
I have to say that I fully agree with your findings here Pete. But the only thing I would say in difference is that I found the Cleveland wedges easier to control then the vokeys due to the weighting of the vokeys being heavier and in delicate shots they were a bit harder to control. So I have been playing the Cleveland wedges and I have since shaved off more strokes.
Just got the new Rtx 6s ❤❤
Chefs kiss, extra saucey! Luv those wedges!! Broke alot of hearts in skins matches with the old rtxs
Completely agree with this. My Cleveland wedges definitely feel more balanced and easier to hit those finnessee shots
I have the SM9's and I think they're very forgiving but the spin the produce is trash compared to the ZipCores which I loved.
Over past 10 years i've had SM6's, SM7's, then SM8's last year and sold them and custom ordered TM MG3 wedges, 52 deg and a 56 TW grind. The TW grind has a shaved off heel and a beveled off leading edge for pitches and chips off of tight lies. Works great. These will wear out in about 3 years and then i'll move into SM10's !
You should definitely test the mizuno T22 against these other wedges. Very good wedge
Absolutely loved my Mizuno’s. Tried the PXG’s. Immediately didn’t like them. Currently running with the Vokey’s and definitely like them, but maybe not as much as the Mizuno’s.
@Scott Mackey vokeys are always a safe bet, just absolutely love the feel off the face on the mizuno.
I'm playing T22 48, 54, and 60 degree wedges that I got this year, and they're my favorite clubs in the bag. The 48 is probably my favorite club I've ever hit too, its unreal.
I would like to see him compare the Mizuno to the Vokey, since the price is so much lower too.
I tried about 8 different wedges including vokey, rtx6 and Mizuno t22. For me, I got most feel and consistency from the rtx6. I now have them in my bag.
I have had Cleveland RTX 4’s in my bag for a few years and really loved them. Went to get new wedges, and was just going to upgrade to the RTX 6. However, ended up testing all kinds of wedges to see what I like. To my surprise, I ended up getting all new of the Wilson Staff model forged wedges and am absolutely in love with them. They are incredibly underrated. I have become slightly a Wilson fanboy as I’ve recently switched to their ball as well! Definitely worth a try
Nothing to be ashamed about being a Wilson fanboy 🙂. They still hold the record for most majors won, and they still produce one of the best looking and best feeling irons EVER. My next set, this year, will be a Staff Model/CB blended set. I also play the RTX4 wedges but will have a look at the Staff Model wedges too.
@@rufussthoo4083 IMO they make the most forgiving irons in the game in the D9's
@@moedark4390 There is a reason Wilson is still around seeing many others come and go.
$200 for two forged wedges. This is the exact reason I'm debating switching to wilson. You can't beat the price.
@@josiahjones9521 you will not regret it! For the looks and feel, worth every penny. I’m considering switching everything to Wilson I love it!
Enjoying my sugar Daddys PXG. Played the Vokey previously and the Sugar Daddys are definitely a more consistent club for me.
On the other hand my son went from a PXG to a Cleveland and is extremely happy with the switch. Think it is what ever feels more comfortable for the individual. I think its definitely worth going for a fitting to find out what works for your individual game. Almost all the major brands make extremely good wedges now.
Was very confused till I watched the video
@@BigFatSmellyCheese😂😂
Have the last version of Zip Core and they work crazy well in wetter conditions, crazy awesome spin too. Absolutely love them. 52°, 56°, 60° all mid bounce.
Had last years as well ... just got the rtx 6 and it is so much better in morning dew I vant even explain it
@@philrob4468 I think the ones I have now are awesome in wetter conditions.
@@philrob4468 i agree. whatever they call the new tech, it works. i’m zipping the ball all over the place now
I really like the Callaway Jaws high toe. Very similar to the TaylorMade, but I found them more forgiving.
100% agree. I just got the 56 and 60 (12 deg bounce) and they’re the best - AND most forgiving - wedges I’ve ever used (of Vokeys, Clevelands, MD4’s, etc). Roger Cleveland joined Callaway in ‘96 (after leaving Cleveland) and, IMHO, he’s turned them into one of the best wedge manufacturers in the game. Hit ‘em straight! 👊🏼😉
For me it was the other way around. Callaway had a more flippy feel with it's weight more towards the toe, harder to control. TM is way more balanced but has a smaller club face and bigger faced wedges might feel more forgiving.
Callaway hi-toe I found excellent from the deep bunker.
All over it was TM Vokey that made it for me.
Jaws are my go to wedges I love them. They definitely give me the confidence behind the ball you want to have 👍
I play TM wedges. Hi toe copper raw insert gap, blacked out MG3 sand, and a RAC3 lob. I like the rainbow set up, and it works.
Went with the ping glide 4.0, couldn’t beat them with anything else. But let’s be honest, basically everything is really good right now. Everything should be played dependent. Have fun.
Very true, no duds out there
what loft you use ?
The RTX6 is a huge improvement over the 5 from the past 2 years. Improved looks and feel
I picked up a Wilson harmonized sole grind 56 wedge at a thrift store, hands down best club I ever bought. It might just be 56 is so consistent around greens. But inside 70 it’s a guarantee on green and high percentage of 15 ft or closer to pin. I love that wedge.
I agree with you... Pick up a groove sharpening tool and WOW what a difference! For the price you can't beat it!
When will we see your new Japanese hand forged irons?
Never. They are wall hangers. Won’t be played
Those clubs are just art work. Not game playing irons. It’s sad but true.
@@jeremylowe2309 ..some of them look like they’ve been used to knock the ugly out of someone or something . They’re horrible looking.
Coming soooooon
@@jeremylowe2309nah, just waiting on delivery
Vokey wedges are the best ... completely agree on the control with approaches ... I've found a few other things more promising around the green at times (such as some TM milled grinds) but cannot beat a Vokey in overall performance (IMO)
I love my sm9 wedges by far the best wedges I've ever used. I just replaced my Wilson staff hi toe wedges with them and they are streets ahead of the Wilsons in every category. Better feel, sound, spin, control and distance control.
Surprised you have not put the Glide 4.0 in there. I’ve played Ping Eye, Cleaveland, Vokey SM6, Miura, Mizuno T20 and now moved to glide 4.0. 45,50,54,58. Love the E Grind in the 58. So easy out of bunkers and rough.
Pink eye?
@@SkakkR23 Ping Eye2 from the mid 80’s
I’ve got the milled grind 3 raw face and they are brilliant in and around the green very versatile stopping power attack pins - totally agree the fuller shots you can get less forgiveness distance control / feel isn’t the best .. but I think you adapt to your clubs .. they don’t swing themselves
I have tried Vokey wedges a few times but always go back to Mizuno .... The feel is king for me and currently play the T20 .I played Scratch wedges for a few years and they were excellent !
Currently using Ping 4.0. Couldn't be happier with them. Although I'm surprised they aren't in this, there's so little between them now, you could have had three or four other brands here. All in the eye of the holder now.
Agree. I went for a fitting and they're total game changers. For me hands down the best wedges I've ever hit. So versatile.
I left Vokey 10 years ago, difficulty gapping into my Cleveland irons, went to Cleveland wedges, a beautiful journey, currently 46, 50, 54 CBX ZipCore, 58 RTX ZipCore. Recently went Launcher XL with Recoil shafts, pulled PW, DW, went back to 46 & 50 CBX ZipCores!
Sucker
I tested the Cleveland RTX6 Zipcore and ended up liking the Mizuno T22 much better. Felt better, got more spin, and just overall worked for me.
Very good wedge the Mizuno
Denim copper t22 are lovely 😊
@@dlenny3369 Yes it is, got my 54 degree in that finish.
I like my ZipCore wedges. I use a 50 and a 56. I’ve probably used almost every wedge out there and I like those the best. Mine are the older ones. They feel great.
Having nine generations of Vokey speaks volumes for the design and build quality and consistency; with all the professionals continuing to use them, that's a living testament. That said, my personal preference remains with the Cleveland legacy wedges. I keep coming back to my 588 Gunmetals, superb feel and touch with still plenty of bite and spin after two+ decades in and out of my bag. They have also retained their black finish even after many, many rounds and practice, unlike the newer line iterations from Cleveland.
I've been gaming Cleveland Wedges for almost 15 years, and they've never let me down. My wedges are the best part of my game due to the confidence these clubs provide. Currently, we have 50, 56 (bent to 55), and 60 in the bag.
I have these TM high toe, love the confidence they inspire.
Ever tried the Wilson staff wedges. Would be interesting to see a whole Wilson staff breakdown.
You’ve sold me on the vokey.
Another nice thing about Vokeys that isnt really tested here is how well those grooves last over time
There's no such thing as 'the best' in golf clubs, just "what is best for me". I'm pleased you mentioned that it has been a long process of testing Pete, because one fitting session (especially if indoors) has no chance of identifying what is "best for me". Sadly, few of us have any other option so hearing your reasoning helps identify options and solidify ideas. 👍
I play Cleveland wedges, 52, 56 and 60, full face, very versatile, I’ve never been happier in my short game.
Cleveland wedges are unbeatable but my 58 degree sugar daddy is spectacular. 5 yrs old and the amount of spin is still insane, especially on short shots. U can spin it from anywhere.
I have been using Taylormade MG1 for a few years now and loved them. Switched to Vokey this year and i will never get a different brand. There is a reason why everyone uses them.
I feel ya. I will never play another wedge once I switched to vokey it was game over lol.
Pete I feel like you missed one that really surprised me and that's the mizuno T22 I would like to see you give it a go. As much as I hate it (I'm a big titleist guy) the mizuno feels so much better and the look at address is so nice. I got rid of my SM9 for a trio of them.
I just did the opposite. Tried to stick with the mizuno for another season but I couldn’t. Like the Vokey look and grind and bounce offerings that suit my game better. It’s all personal preference.
@BillBradley very interesting. Maybe after a few more rounds I'll go back but currently I'm liking them. I really loved my SM9s I've been using vokey wedges since 2008 or so and I feel most confident with those.
I got the S23 in 46 and 50 for full swing and the SM9 in 54 and 58 for little pitches and chips. Best of both worlds
Peter would love to see more cobra clubs on the channel. It seems like cobra is just the forgotten child.
Vokeys have never been the highest spinning for me. But Ive played them for 15 years because I know exactly how theyll perform and Ill get the tightest spin dispersion each and every time I make the contact I should.
Hope no one goes sarcastic on me but I’ve found some surprisingly good results from a.......Northwestern ! If you’re unfamiliar with it, it is a very cheap low end brand (in all of their products). Now I know, it’s not going to outperform any vokey, however if anyone gets a chance to hit one you may be surprised. Cons: putting up with sneers from playing partners, not the feel of the high end ones reviewed here, spin is , shall we say limited. Pros: can hit it as far as these, still decent feel, will plough through the deepest, thickest rough with ease I guarantee, and!.....about $39 ! Don’t scoff until you’ve tried it.
Wilson Raw wedges are brilliant. And half the price of a Vokey
Also with Vokey the fitting options are the best with all the different grinds and bounces.
I managed to buy a 54 and a 60 vokey sm6 last week, for nz. $100 each ie about $65us. They are like as new, very happy with them.
Amen brother, I put sm9s in my bag and love them. I did buy a wedge works T grind lob wedge and also love it as well
I played Vokeys for years, but I switched to the Cleveland RTX 3 years ago and I am not going back.
I went to the SM8 last year, after playing Cleveland for years. I think the Cleveland looks better at address, just suits my eye more. I am going back to Cleveland this year
This conclusion is exactly right. We want to try something new, but the best anyone else can do is a good copy of a Vokey.
I've been back and forth with sm9 and t22 . Finally settled for the t22 .
I think it's because I like the s400 shafts better than vokey wedge shafts
My Golfworks personally made wedges work great for me! Maybe because I can use an "R" shaft, alternate grip and they have removable weights.
I’ve just put the black RTX6’s in bag best ever wedges they have ever done! Went 50,54&58
My advice is that once you find a set of wedges that can produce shots that you want around the green, then never, ever change. I have a friend who has a 40-year-old wedge and he is a magician with it. He can make the ball talk. It is a rare day when he doesn't get the ball near the hole or in it. So find your wedge, and keep it.
You get so much groove wear though, right?
I’m playing with MD 5 sand wedge and jaws raw lob wedge my workability around the greens are just superior I wouldn’t do anything to jinx it. These new wedges you just recommended are correct!
Pete, I find that the MG3 regulars should have been included. They were the best by My Golf Spy and I hit them the best of all. Ping also makes some amazing wedges in wet(the best) and dry and should have been included.
Nice honest review Pete. Look forward to more of the Build The Bag series.
The bounce on the Hi Toe 3 is incredible. I can lay a 56 degree almost flat on the ground without having the entire face come off the ground.
Best wedge comparison video I’ve seen
Nice trip to woburn then to get fitted 👍🙏
@peterfinchgolf. You need to try the bettinardi wedges. Only wedge ive found that took the vokeys out of my bag. Now I bought a few sets of the 3.0s and the 5.0 are their newest rendition. But also know a few people I recommend them to that took vokeys out of their bags as well!
I game the 3.0’s in 54° & 58° and they’re magic from 85yrds in.
Let's Do a test for Callaway Mack Daddy CB wedge vs Cleveland CBX 2 wedge? i.e. 30 yards over the bunker onto the green with medium to less green to work with.
The hi toe 3 put my short game back where I like it with my playing partners going that’s good and hitting my ball back to me!
I always go for cobra wedges
Surprised u didn’t try the jaws raw…to me they have the better feel vs the vokey. They’re super easy to flight down too…low one hopper stopper machines.
Vokey gap & SW. Use a MG3 HT for lob because that sole is just so good on tight lies. Mixed bag ftw
I have the RTX 4's in my bag. 56 & 50 mid bounce! Absolutely swear by them, brilliant clubs.
Great review! I wouldn’t mind going for a Titliest fitting and throwing some new vokeys in the bag.
switched to cleveland’s from vokeys about 6 years ago, and i think swinging rebar has better feel thank vokeys now. the new rtx 6’s are ridiculously good though
Oddly I have never gotten on with the Titelist weges. I am using the Taylor Made Hi-Toe. I like them for all the reasons Peter gave, with the addition that I find them to be one of the easiest clubs to hit out of bunkers that I have ever played.
Ping Glide 4 is fantastic. Game improvement with classic shape and spin.
One of my favorite wedge reviews.
Just bought some new wedges as my old ones are getting a bit worn out and was contemplating between the SM9s, RTX 6s and Raw Jaws... ended up going with the black satin RTX 6s they looked very appealing, hope I love them.
RTX6s are so butter absolutely love them
I went from the zipcore to Hi-3 and I absolutely love em. I feel like I can do anything around the green, whatever the stance, grip, face you name it and I only do 3/4 shots with my 56 and 60 anyways. I would love to try SM sometime, only problem I have are all the different grinds. According to the selector I should have a 50-8F, 56-10S and 60-8M
Oh good. Just bought a couple of Vokeys the other day 👍
Peter, given you are from the famously damp North West of England, it would be interesting to see the results of a comparison between the Vokeys and the RTX6 zipcores in the less than optimum conditions in your clip. I have a sneaky feeling that if you factored that in to your considerations, the zipcores would be in your bag rather than the vokeys.
I've used Cleveland for ages but after seeing this vid, I may have to give the Vokey's a try.
Played a 56 Cleveland RTX and a 60 Vokey SM9 got the Hi Toes as a gift and for me i like the cleveland best for full shots Hi Toe the best around the green Vokey's feel the best
Glad you had no crowded course during your test. I was there in February and the course was too filled… no chance for tests like this.
Had the TM MG3 line and was extremely underwhelmed with them. I dumped them for the Jaws Raw and Full Toe from Callaway. I'm beyond happy with my Callaway wedges. I also had SM9s and didn't like the feel of them.
Personal preference is different for everyone.
what's your favourite club in the bag?
Vokeys are good yes .. but they are not true forgings, so they will never go in my bag. Great review as well, thanks. I play a mizuno t4 52 raw and a very old but much loved MacGregor tourney 58 wedge.
Interested why you didnt test the Milled Grind 3 wedge, not the high toe version. Smaller shaoe, better on full shots. Interesting.
I have the milled grind 3 TW edition 56 and 60° and theyre the best wedges i tested. I had the milled grind 2 versions too.
Not sure if you have already tested) but would be great to see if the Edison wedges could make it into your bag.
I feel like the new mizuno s23 would be a good option too
I lost my wedges and had to play with some bullshit Bombtech wedges.. after playing them instead of my $200 Vokey wedges I realized all wedges are the same and I can play any wedge. I’m also just a naturally good wedge player so maybe that’s the reason but I’ve never had trouble with any wedge, they’re the easiest club to hit, I can be slicing my 7 iron off the planet and I can always hit a dead straight 100 yard wedge no matter what, wedges are easy and fun.
I got the SM9's and it has been love hate; on bad days I don't want to shape shots. I just want a simple stock pitch to the middle of the green which is very difficult...On good days, however, you feel like Spieth throwing darts!
I'm surprised with you playing in wet weather so often that you didnt put the Zipcores in the bag, think you would just see more consistent results for the majority of your rounds.
Not sure why you’d ever move away from the SMS! Those wedges are incredible
I love my Cleveland RX6 full face wedges!
It would be interesting to see your Vokey lofts and grinds and bounce you selected and why. I know some players like a full grind with more bounce in some wedges with the next one in the bag with less bounce and grind relief. Are the shafts you have for wedges the same as your other higher irons?
Right now I have SM8s, and I love them. Very consistant. I am curious about wedge with grooves all the way to the toe, like the hi-toe. I like to hit more toward the toe out of the sand or thick rough.
Interesting results. When I got new wedges last year just after the SM9 release I ended up with Cleveland RTX5. I got better spin numbers, 500 rpm, more than the SM9s! I haven’t noticed any drop off in the shots I play from my SM8s to the Clevelands. The only difference I saw was the 25/ wedge price difference!
The 56 down to 46 lofts in Vokeys are fine even though they are not forged any longer, they feel ok but the 58 and above have a hollow section in them to reduce weight in their design, and that clicky sound they give off is annoying to my ear. I own a set and you can definitely hear the difference on shots compared to a wedge that doesn't have that hollow section , such as a Cobra or Callaway or Edel. I love the PXG Sugar daddy's those are amazing feeling and looking wedges.
Kirkland Signature should have been in the running.
Vokey low bounce is just amazing 🤩
Mizuno T22 Copper Denim - favorite from Mizuno, reminded me of the T7's
i just got some new wedges i got the sm9 in a 56 and then a cleveland 60 degree to get the ball in the air a little easier and i absolutely love both of them
This review should be updated to swap out the TM Hi-Toe for the new Milled Grind 4. It is an amazing wedge. I have two in the bag and will be replacing my two Hi-Toes in the future with the MG 4.
I've had the Clevelands for a while now and they are genuinely the best clubs I've ever bought
Nothing better than new wedge spin.
I wanted a forgiving wedge so I use callaway Mack daddy’s. Love them and they “match” my apex DCB irons
I love my Mizuno T-22s so underated and hardly any info on youtube/socials about them
I know you can’t test every manufacturers wedge out there but there are some less expensive forged wedges that it would have been great to see you try. Ie Wilson Staff, Cobra Snake. The other thing I recently learned about volkey wedges is the pros are forged and what is sold in stores are cast. Where using forged or cast volkey wedges?
ive went for the Mizuno T22 wedges, they give me good spin and are really soft off the face
I have a pair of Cleveland CBX2's (54 and 58)... haven't quite felt the need to swap them out yet.