Glad I watched this. Only clubs I don’t like in my bag. One set I have fitted and still don’t like. NOW booked for a fitting of these clubs. Cheers guys.
Very useful and timely for me. Though I wish Steve would also have discussed the stock DG Spinner shafts. I have played for over 60 years, will be 82 this month. Have played forged blades for years, had Mizuno MP-33s until two years ago when I stumbled on to a set of Chicago Classics made by the pro and fitter-club builder at my range. These were designed by Bob Evans, formerly director of tour operations and the tour van and director of product management for MacGregor Golf, who had a small company of his own from 1987-95 that had heads forged in Taiwan. They look almost identical to the MP-33s. At one time my range had boxes of these heads. The pro added Rifle Lite Precision shafts, stiff flex 120 grams. These were fine for me years ago but it's time to get another set made up with lighter shafts, so I have bought Nippon NS Pro Zelos 8 stiff shafts that weigh just 87.5 grams with 2.2 torque. They are designed to have the characteristics of graphite for those who would still prefer steel. As for wedges, I have a 46 degree PW, 52 degree 8 bounce GW, 56 degree 10 bounce SW and a 60 degree 8 bounce LW. I use the LW a LOT for 20 to 60 yard pitches, mostly from the rough to the side of or short of greens I failed to reach, meaning most. Following a technique taught by Gareth Raflewski of holding the shaft aligned with the sternum at address, no forward lean, and striking the ground 1 to 2 inches behind the ball so that the bounce glides under and past the ball, I have gotten quite good at getting a high, soft pitch that stops pretty quickly. However, several of the courses I play have greens that are hard and quite fast. It is frustrating if I manage to hit the middle of the green to see the ball roll out past the hole and just off the back or side of the green 3 to 6 feet in lush rough. That demands a tricky chip or short pitch back onto the green, often onto a downhill slope, that can often be chunked and go nowhere or struck thin and roll all the way to the other side of the green. Either guarantees a bogey or double or even triple. So I recently began to look for a 60 degree LW that would have the highest spinning face that, together with a high spin ball like the new 2023 Mizuno RB Tour would enable me to get more full wedges and wedge pitches to stop on the green and give me a chance to one putt. I have narrowed that search down to the Cleveland RTX 6 wedge and the Callaway Jaws MD5 and am testing both in the practice bays at the PGA Superstore in Rockville, Maryland so I can get complete data on spin and stop. I also study shafts a lot and realize they can play a significant role. The Callaway has a True Temper AMT Black S300 shaft that weighs 116 grams. The Cleveland RTX has the TT DG Spinner s300 shaft that weighs 128 grams. Though either will be heavier than my new iron shafts, I think that will still be okay for wedges. The Spinner is a bit heavier than my Rifle Lite shafts, which may be a drawback, but it also is designed to create more spin.
Played black satin CG16 for a decade, great retention of finish. 2 years RTX ZipCore 58* did not hold up. Granted used in bunkers still very disappointing wear. With that said, upgrading to RTX 6 ZipCore 58* this week.
Hi, Please see Steve Nichols's Response: " The Black Satin Finish will wear mostly on the sole of the club over time. If the player spends a lot of time practicing off mats or in bunkers they would expect the finish to wear a little faster. My current wedges are Black Satin and they are about two years old and the only wear I see is on the sole."
I'm a mid handicap and I've been playing RTX wedges for some time, so yes its possible with some practice. But this year I changed my current set of steel shafted Mizuno JPX forged irons to graphite shaft JPX because of back and elbow issues. At the same time I switched from RTX to the new CBX Zipcore, and it's the best decision I made. I recommend you try that, and as you get better you can switch to the RTX series the next time you change wedges.
Glad I watched this. Only clubs I don’t like in my bag. One set I have fitted and still don’t like. NOW booked for a fitting of these clubs. Cheers guys.
Very useful and timely for me. Though I wish Steve would also have discussed the stock DG Spinner shafts. I have played for over 60 years, will be 82 this month. Have played forged blades for years, had Mizuno MP-33s until two years ago when I stumbled on to a set of Chicago Classics made by the pro and fitter-club builder at my range. These were designed by Bob Evans, formerly director of tour operations and the tour van and director of product management for MacGregor Golf, who had a small company of his own from 1987-95 that had heads forged in Taiwan. They look almost identical to the MP-33s. At one time my range had boxes of these heads. The pro added Rifle Lite Precision shafts, stiff flex 120 grams. These were fine for me years ago but it's time to get another set made up with lighter shafts, so I have bought Nippon NS Pro Zelos 8 stiff shafts that weigh just 87.5 grams with 2.2 torque. They are designed to have the characteristics of graphite for those who would still prefer steel. As for wedges, I have a 46 degree PW, 52 degree 8 bounce GW, 56 degree 10 bounce SW and a 60 degree 8 bounce LW. I use the LW a LOT for 20 to 60 yard pitches, mostly from the rough to the side of or short of greens I failed to reach, meaning most. Following a technique taught by Gareth Raflewski of holding the shaft aligned with the sternum at address, no forward lean, and striking the ground 1 to 2 inches behind the ball so that the bounce glides under and past the ball, I have gotten quite good at getting a high, soft pitch that stops pretty quickly. However, several of the courses I play have greens that are hard and quite fast. It is frustrating if I manage to hit the middle of the green to see the ball roll out past the hole and just off the back or side of the green 3 to 6 feet in lush rough. That demands a tricky chip or short pitch back onto the green, often onto a downhill slope, that can often be chunked and go nowhere or struck thin and roll all the way to the other side of the green. Either guarantees a bogey or double or even triple. So I recently began to look for a 60 degree LW that would have the highest spinning face that, together with a high spin ball like the new 2023 Mizuno RB Tour would enable me to get more full wedges and wedge pitches to stop on the green and give me a chance to one putt. I have narrowed that search down to the Cleveland RTX 6 wedge and the Callaway Jaws MD5 and am testing both in the practice bays at the PGA Superstore in Rockville, Maryland so I can get complete data on spin and stop. I also study shafts a lot and realize they can play a significant role. The Callaway has a True Temper AMT Black S300 shaft that weighs 116 grams. The Cleveland RTX has the TT DG Spinner s300 shaft that weighs 128 grams. Though either will be heavier than my new iron shafts, I think that will still be okay for wedges. The Spinner is a bit heavier than my Rifle Lite shafts, which may be a drawback, but it also is designed to create more spin.
Fantastic video guys, really enjoyed the information. Keep up the great work. Very glad I found this channel.
Played black satin CG16 for a decade, great retention of finish. 2 years RTX ZipCore 58* did not hold up. Granted used in bunkers still very disappointing wear. With that said, upgrading to RTX 6 ZipCore 58* this week.
Awesome video! on the black finish, can you expect wear, like a friend plays with cobra sb wedges and the black has worn off after a few rounds.
Hi, Please see Steve Nichols's Response: " The Black Satin Finish will wear mostly on the sole of the club over time. If the player spends a lot of time practicing off mats or in bunkers they would expect the finish to wear a little faster. My current wedges are Black Satin and they are about two years old and the only wear I see is on the sole."
@@CoolClubs thanks for the response guys! Can’t wait to get my set!
Can a high handicap play the RTX 6 wedges?
I'm a mid handicap and I've been playing RTX wedges for some time, so yes its possible with some practice. But this year I changed my current set of steel shafted Mizuno JPX forged irons to graphite shaft JPX because of back and elbow issues. At the same time I switched from RTX to the new CBX Zipcore, and it's the best decision I made. I recommend you try that, and as you get better you can switch to the RTX series the next time you change wedges.