I literally thought these tips must be made in a machine that molds and cures them, because as you stated, that is what gel is. Pretty frustrating that these companies take the chemical composition and decide oh well it has similar chemical makeup, so it’s gel, cause as consumers, that’s not how we perceive it. And obviously they’re banking on that. Thanks so much for the honest transparency. Just another reason I love your company, you’re not all about the money, you’re about the education, the knowledge of your customers, making sure we can be confident in the products we use and the process in which we use them. All the more reason why I’ve switched to use almost entirely young nails on my clients ❤️
Right! I mean, I had a feeling they weren’t doing all that. Intuition proven correct yet again. I was lowkey hoping I was wrong tho. Ugh of course they would, anything to make a bigger profit while using the same or cheaper materials 😩 man I really can’t stand shady marketing!
OMG I have missed your videos gurl I pray your doing well. And I'm glad they broke it down bc I finally bought "gel nails" just to compare to abs plastic ones. I was told Gel nails don't have to be roughed up on the underside before applying polygel. Haven't tried the theory yet to see if the tips just pop off like dual forms. I'm glad to know the chemical formula is basically the same and I'm not investing in a high end (gel brand tips) it's marketing schemes 🙄🙄🙄🙈
@@mandylynnswarts I’m doing good, just have been busy with nail school. I posted a New Years set and I should be posting more frequently soon cause I graduate in 2 weeks 😊 that was awesome to see a comment for me on their video tho 💖
Yes I watched it and I'm so happy congratulations to you and your journey. I couldn't start yet God called me to the hospital he said they need me right now. Hopefully covid dies so I can get my life back and can get my schooling done. Be safe out their love. I look forward to your next uploads🤗
@@mandylynnswarts that’s really awesome that you’re working in the hospital and helping with all of this. We definitely need more like you, y’all are hero’s fr. I’ll keep you in my thoughts. Stay safe love ❤️
I've been trying to explain this to fellow techs for the past year. I worked in product development for one of the world's top tip/full cover nail manufacturers for 15 years so I know the composition. Unfortunately too many refuse to believe science! Thanks for this! 🙏❤
Habib, you guys are creating so much customer loyalty and trust every time you create quality content like this!! This video was so freaking informative, thank you 👏👏👏
I first found YN watching a video on their Fibergel. I love your Fibergel!!! It just makes my nails perfect . I bought your fibergel kit with small uv light and tips and your large curing light. I do mine and my daughter's nails, and after watching all your video's, and much practice, and lots of YN product purchases, my daughter is now a willing client 😂😂😂 She was my practice model along with myself and a fake hand. You have always been transparent and made quality products. Your training vids are excellent and I just think the world of your company. I was a buyer for Costco in 80's and 90's for Mens apparel and lawn and garden ( different times. What a mix right?!) I know when I am being given marketing bs and not facts. Your honesty and transparency are refreshing and much needed in this industry. As a newbie, I am glad I found YN and Im sticking with you!! Plus you are all very entertaining! 😂😂😂 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
We are asking because these companies have marketed them as GEL. They claim that it’s much better than plastic. As a non professional nail enthusiast it’s really hard to find the real answer. Thank you for this video. I have spent months looking for answers.
Abs plastic vs gel plastic. That's how I always viewed it. Licensed nail techs did their best to tell me differently. I didn't budge. Some people will research while others will not. Just think about recycling. You many be able to recycle a peanut butter jar (please clean the remaining pb in the jar prior to recycling), but you can't recycle plastic wrap. Still plastic, just different grades. Thank you both for transparency and due diligence.😊😁😉😍
That makes a lot of sense since you see the ‘bend’ test where someone will taco a tip and the (abs) plastic tip retains a white line after versus the ‘softgel’ tip springs back to shape with no visible damage.
Personally, I love gel tips lol. If you don't have skill or time to sculpt with gel, they are great because you cure them on and that's your full set. I still put hard gel or acrylic on top and build a proper apex and all that, but the foundational work is done in a fraction of the time. And I love that I can fill my gel tip sets, which I don't think you can do with regular full cover nails, even if you cure them on with gel. Also, the gel tips definitely soak off easier than other mediums, which is helpful for keeping healthy nails under the enhancement. I think dismissing the whole thing as marketing is reductive, honestly. Gel and acrylic and polygel are all plastic at the end of the day, but I think we all agree that they are not the same thing and there are fundamental pros and cons that make one a better fit than others for some people.
I do the same thing with my gel tips. Like you already mentioned I don't have the time or patience to sculpt my own sets but I can fill them in, especially knowing I have a decent foundation already established.
Yes. While I appreciate the honestly about "gel" tip marketing it does kinda serve them to dismiss it because companies that focus on gel tips and products are their competitors. YN tips are still very competitively priced with many gel tip companies but in a MUCH smaller selection of shapes, styles, and colors. Convenience is where gel tips definitely have the edge. Short to XXL, natural and sculpted, round to stiletto, etc. Wish more companies did the individual size refills, and wish more companies had true short/active sizes. A truly clear nail, in active sizes in "natural" and "sculpted" C curves, with the option of individual refills would be my holy grail.
I've recently started using gelish soft gel tips and they are amazing. I knew you could use gel polish or builder gel over the top but didnt realise you could do acrylic? Have you any pictures or tutorials of this 😀
I wondered about this so thanks for sharing! I got a brand of these "gel" tips recently and as far as I could tell they're just plastic full cover tips. I've bought cheap full cover tips from amazon and they're the same thing! I did wonder how these brands could produce an actual gel tip. So you guys have totally confirmed my suspicions 👌🏼. Really sneaky marketing for companies to state these are 100% gel because obviously any experienced nail tech would automatically assume that meant actual nail gel used to form nails enhancements.
Marketing... This is how so many companies choose to market their products. Bigger.Better.Faster. Harder. Right up there with the companies that say that their dip powder is organic and healthier than acrylic enhancement products.😂
Yessss omg 😂 I see that basically everywhere “organic and healthy to make your beautiful nail" and I’m just like 🤨 and then I’ll go looking at the reviews (especially with sites like amazon) bcuz I know with advertising like that + uninformed people with improper removal methods are going to take that and run with it. Under every single dip, acrylic, hard & soft gel listed on amazon there’s someone in the reviews giving a low rating and bad review about how the product destroyed their nails 🤦♀️ the funniest I’ve seen was on an acrylic + monomer starter set. This lady said "this product should be illegal! I can’t believe it’s allowed to be sold anywhere. The chemical vapors in this product burned my lungs, I’m X-ray tech so I know what I’m talking about! I have always had strong healthy nails, now they’re soft and weak after using this once and having them on for 1 week" in that moment I so badly wished that I could reply to reviews.
Hahaha that was really funny 🤣organic dip powder? 😂I don't believe I've had the pleasure of crossing paths with that one. That was really funny tho lol 👏🏼
@@katielunn6394 in all reality, everything we can see, feel, or consume is "organic" in a chemists perspective. It does not mean that it makes everything healthy by any sense of the word. It just means that it exists in a natural state.
Love how ya'll didn't call any companies out because we all know who they are. Ya'll did it so professional and just let us know about the nail tips. So professional I love Young Nails!
I love how you guys are so honest ... I mean we have these scammers out there getting rich on there false claims letting there customers believe whatever you guys are great.
And honestly, this is the beauty and the reason YoungNails is the best brand out there. You did not need to go out and find out that information for us, but you did. You have gone that extra step so many times for all of the techs and students who use your products the industry is full of shadows. Thank you guys so much for everything you do! My niece has started getting into doing her own nails and I have sent her in your direction as well (I'm in NC she is in ME) because I want her to know what the best is from the beginning and settle for nothing less.
You have earned my respect 100%. I set out on this mission myself and realized what was going on was fleecing buyers out of their money. Yes, quality differs but they aren’t made of gel, rather for gel. Thanks for being honest.
Well damn, you guys shook the table with this video. Thank you for providing a detailed description of what "gel" tips are. I appreciate you didn't want to be seen as bashing or singling out any brands. I think it is about acetone being able to soak off the tips.
I dont want to use the word "all" because I dont know about every plastic on the planet. But 20 years ago, up to now, I have be able to dissolve, the tips used for nails, in acetone. These supposed Gel ones might dissolve faster, but ABS plastic dissolves too.
I was asked "is this a gel tip" I than shook my head in the NO positions and said it's plastic. Maybe I should have said it's acrylic because after that answer it was 101 questions and I still only had one answer "it's plastic". I wanted to say OOOOK IT'S GELL but why be dishonest when you can just say the truth. Now I don't have to feel bad and I have some backup I can refer too. Thank you for the video💐
I have the kiara sky gelly tips and everytime i file them, they smell faintly of the plastic that you find in normal tips. It had me very confused, thank you for clearing this up!
@@chantelcaballero5594 I think they are a soak off gel, because they are definitely softer before UV curing. But, they are probably a mix of another kind of plastic too.
Thank you for being so real! It is so messed up how companies are telling people that this is a gel tip and charging so much for them and it's not real. Times are hard and that's so wrong! I love Young Nails!!!
All extensions are made of acrylates. But gel tips are designed to be installed with soft gel and soak off easier than a typical plastic tip that gets glued on. I’ve seen some people saying they have put the young nail tips on with gel, and that’s great if it works for them. I think the big attraction to gel tips is the ease of removal.
Omg don’t I feel 🐑, had me all confused because when I would file the “gel tips” to take off shine it would smell like plastic ones 🤔 that’s why I love you guys, did your research fully to share with us and speak the truth while others lie just to sell 😒😒
I absolutely Love and recommend YN to everyone one. I use their products. I’m a nail technician and after seeing this video love them even more. Thanks ☺️.
Reminds me of how some regular nail polishes call themselves "gel". That one really burns me up because it's intentionally misleading consumers, just like what you're talking about here. I always tell people "if it's in a clear glass bottle, it's not gel".
I feel like this should be a no brainer considering gel uses a lamp/uv to cure (I'm *super* new to learning via youtube lol) but I never would've noticed or realized that all of my gel products are in black bottles! thank you!
I was a chemist before nail tech(long story short) and knew about this and I don’t like to use them on my regular clients. But my coworkers worship about these nail systems so I couldn’t say the truth until now because no one was saying the truth and I knew they would not listen to me serious and I didn’t want to bother what they “want” to believe.
As someone who’s just stayed quiet the longer majority of my life about things bcuz I didn’t want to argue with people about what they believe bcuz they’ve been lied to, I’m begging you please don’t stay quiet. Although I totally understand not wanting to cause an upset in the work environment.
@@deder9391 Hi!! Welcome to the industry 😁 it’s been a while since I wrote this comment and man nail industry just took off!! :) Beauty industry is competitive but it’s always there. I truly think I made a right choice. I hope you become very successful too!! 🥰
@@gabiew.7860 Thank you so much!!! I think I'm making the right choice for myself and my growth as well. I'm so happy for you! Thank you so much for this encouragement truly!
Of course they're plastic, that's what acrylic and gel is. There are different types of plastics with different strengths and weaknesses. I'd be interested in what different types of plastics the different companies use though. I know plenty of people just buy regular tips and use them exactly like gel tips with no problems though.
I'm so glad you brought this up. I was thinking that these "gel tips" had to be plastic. Because soft gel isn't hard.... no matter how many layers of base or color or top coat i put on, I can't make a stable extension with soft gel. I've tried before my trip to LA years back, Snr they snapped off (really they bent in half lol) the first day.
@@ilykfritos1 yes you're right! I'm trying to think here, I thought acetone could not desolve plastic and I just looked it up and it does. But it has to be plastic that has similar components to acetone...
If you've touched them, you know most soft gel tips are flexy. Of all the brands, Apres has the sturdiest feel, but I still don't recommend anyone cure them on and go, you have to add things to them to make them as resilient as a sculpted set. Soft gel tips also lose integrity if you put them in rubbing alcohol, regular tips do not. It's plastic yes. All this stuff is plastic lol. But it's not the same plastic as regular tips.
@@Aquaria2291 yeah I know they're flexible. All gel is flexible. So are plastic tips. Even hard gel in a layer as thin as tips can still bend quite a bit. But soft gel isn't just flexible, it straight up folds under the lightest pressure. Like Gumby 🌵😆. Doesn't even make the fun click clack sound on the table like the "soft gel" tips. Just a thud thud 😫. Anywho, I'm just saying it makes sense that "soft gel" tips don't have the same CHEMICAL properties as soft gel, because they don't even have the same PHYSICAL properties as soft gel.
Some clients are even hellbent on arguing Techs down about things we hold a license to know. It floors me every time, especially the “dip isn’t acrylic” faction. These are probably the same people who get “powder gel nails.” 😏
😂 you’re not wrong! My goodness when I first kept hearing of this "powder gel" when I tell you the names I’ve been called for saying "no that’s acrylic" I don’t know weather to laugh or cry. One thing I do know is people don’t read ingredient labels on these products, otherwise they’d see they’re the same thing!
I wish I saw your comment before I put mine up.....lol! Sad but true a little research goes a long way. You'd think they'd know what they're paying for 🤦🏾♀️
@@aquarius8325 right 🤷🏻♀️ maybe it’s just me but I look at ingredient labels on EVERYTHING! Shampoo, condiments, skincare, soda, chapstick, cereal boxes, makeup, etc... I might be on the edge of obsession with it tho 🤔☠️
Thanks so much for sharing! I use the "Gel" tips, it was my kick start for my business, the goal is hard gel sculpted extensions. The satisfaction of completing a nail set that you sculpted is just unexplainable. Its just taking me a while to get there 😆
thanks, guys for this its really appreciated it's been so insane to watch this all over the nail groups and even my followers. I am so happy someone finally addressed this.
Oh how I hate marketing. The whole reason I started doing my own nails was because I was tired of being lied to at the nail salons. And now I'm being lied to by ppl tryna sell nail tips. I personally don't care what the chemical composition is...there's no need to lie..I WAS GONNA BUY IT ANYWAY. Thank you for being honest and telling the truth about the nail industry.
So they shouldnt be called gel tips they are just 'full cover tips' like young nails calls theirs? Why cant all companies just be transparent like these guys lol
Thank you so much for this information. I think the marketing is like not honest. They make out like it is a different product and it is not. That is why I love you all. You are open and honest. That means so much to me. Thank you for being you. Love you all.
Thank you for this video/chat as I've been so confused lately with press on tips (making some so don't have to use my non dominant hand so can paint/decorate before putting on). As some say gel-x, soft gel tips, full cover tip etc etc-so all these are just plastic tips? Also with applying on natural nail I'm getting confused as can use gel, glue, acrylic, stick ons etc etc sorry heads still going crazy do you recommend any of your informative videos please about press ons/full cover tips 🙏
To help clarify, yes, all tips are some form of plastic, even if they are labeled “gel tips” this is still a form of plastic. There are many ways to adhere tips, it simply depends on your goals for the nails. If you want a temporary set, the sticky tabs or glue are the easiest way to apply but may only keep them on for a day or a weekend. Using gel or acrylic is going to be a more permanent application. We recommend using Fiber Gel as it is thin and won’t add bulk but has flexibility & strength to hold the tip on for an extended period of time. Here’s a great video to show you this application. th-cam.com/video/PUxXnCzjj2U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Sn7T5zTNXbTOEISl
I LOVE it that y'all did this video! I had really wondered about this (like,is there some machine that "cures" gel in full cover tip shapes? Or is it just...plastic)& i was hoping that somebody would clarify. Thank you Young Nails,u guys can always be depended depended on to be honest & transparent. I greatly appreciate that.👊
I use Aprés, and the difference to me is the breakdown ability with removing with acetone and a cotton ball. I can get Aprés off in 15 minutes, other brands don't soak off and I have to file them off and takes 30 minutes. The YN one i haven't tried to soak yet in acetone, so I think I need to do a test
Valerie N. I agree I have used other brands that took forever to soak off, Apres does not take that long so they must use a DIFFERENT GRADE of plastic.
@@sarahmoss8361 this is true! That's the whole reason for the cotton soaked acetone wrapped in foil before gel became like really big, IMO. As a kid and teen, anytime I went to get my nails redone, that was always step one. And acetone dissolves the plastic itself FAST!!!
I love that your company does research & brings clarity to things like this because there's alot of "definitions". Reading the ingredients helps as well because the truth lies in there!!! Lol you guys are awesome!!!
First , thanks for your informative video! My question is if I use hard gel base on natural nails and then apply soft gel form on the top, will they bond harder than regular gel base ? Thank you
Good to know. I've been duped into believing they were gel cured nails. I really don't know why they can't just say high quality instead of being misleading.
I actually researched gel polish and it’s a version of plastic too. The basic chemical compound in acrylic is plastic. There are different variations of plastic but we categorize them by different names so people can determine the form and/or quality.
All types of nail polish are plastic. That is why some people keep their in a fridge so it will set (cool and solidify) quicker. It’s also the reason why trying to dry nails with a hairdryer is stupid because the warmth actually slows down the drying/setting process.
I use Kiara sky short coffin nails as they have the best shape for short coffins. I don’t buff them and gel polish sticks fine. Never tried apres because so expensive! 😳😔
@@piperjaycie Yes they are very expensive but they did just lower prices to the pro prices across their site and I only order when they have a sale. Makes the price more doable
What is more important to know than if they are plastic because several industry leaders even Lauren Wireman of Wildflowers Nails has openly stated that they are just plastic. We need to know how to distinguish the quality of the plastic tips instead of guessing and paying more and more money to get something we hate!
I am an enthusiast not a trained tech but it really cracks me up that folks can not understand that it is ALL plastic. Whether you dip a brush in a pot of gel and use a form to make an extension and cure it or you pick up a pre-made tip (half or full) and adhere it to your natural nail in the end you have plastic nails.
Depending on the severity of damage, it may be best to sculpt an enhancement rather than trying to glue on a tip. If the damage is severe, we would recommend leaving product off the nail until the damage has had time to grow out & the nail is healthy.
I think part of the confusion is people look at the Apres Gel-X system. Their plastic tips can be adhered with soft gel rather than glue. And, the Gel-X tips, when adhered with their soft gel, can be soaked off with acetone similar to soaking off gel polish or acrylic (which lots of people confuse with gel as it is).
And so many youtubers i watch say "you need soft gel tips because gel (gel or polygel) cures to gel, whereas the plastic tips will end up popping off" which is semi harmful to spread because ppl will think they dont have to prep "soft gel" tips and not get the desired result.
From my experience the difference between nails that are marketed as gel tips and nails that are just ABS plastic is that those gel tips are easier to soak off so the takedown process is a lot faster when compared to using ABS regular plastic tips.
I've been a nail tech for 40 years, while trying new items, I would "call" these full coverage tips for gel applications, gel tips, such as calling tips for acyric, acrylic tips....it was hard to watch Ya'll act so confused. I'm looking to try gel, and the tips, I wear square, don't believe you have them. Love your classes, I've learned alot, bought your acrylic, love it. Pace your classes a little swifter, you are speaking to licensed professionals? All good, love watching! Ms Mgr, is a hoot, love watching her work!
i am almost positive that enailcouture said they make them manually from actual nail gel and cure them. and apres x does the same. are you saying they are NOT curing them, and they are not made with acrylic/light initiators?
also, if they are not made from gel, how is the gel base being used to adhere them instead of nail glue??? These things are like $50 a box. i might actually rage if this is true.
I remember Max saying his "gel tips" are made with his Candy Jelly builder gel. But I bought some tips off of Ali Express and compared them to his. THEY WERE THE EXACT SAME THING! They looked the same, filed the same, even smelled the same. So I thought, if his are real gel and the ones from Ali Express are plastic, then the plastic ones should dissolve faster in acetone than the ones made from real gel. But they both reacted to acetone and dissolved the exact same way! I then realized that Max is a liar and decided to save money and just buy the Ali Express tips, since they're the exact same thing anyway. The only difference is I can get a refund on the Ali Express ones if anything is wrong with them or they get lost in transit and I got them in about two weeks rather than 3-4 months. Oh, and also got them for a lot cheaper.
@@VishousTrish thanks for explaining, i wouldnt buy anything from max, but i think i needed someone to reaffirm this for me cuz the 50 times habib said it i still could not believe it.
So like apres "gel" full cover tips , how come they are so clear and and the quality is much better. So is it a different type of plastic than regular tips?
I’m not a prof or tech, but my personal preference is hard gel extensions, just makes more sense 🤷🏻♀️ lol. My experience: I stopped going to a nail tech because they would not do the process of a base or foundation, and she would sculpt with just soft gel, no primer, and they would snap off. I was like: no it’s not worth it, she’s not doing it right. I do them myself, can’t wait to try your hard gel 👏🙌🏼
I do hear that term a lot on other peoples channels. I think that they are trying to market them to the DIY crowd who don't really know better. I know E nail Coutour and Apres' have the gel tips kits
And you do apply these kits with gel so that is why there is so much confusion i think. I know one of those companies at least was saying that the tips they have "bond" better with the gel base coat. This is all just stuff i hear around insta and YT. i am not a pro yet but i so use the same method that those kits use and it DOES work with your basic plastic tips.
I am a professional and I actually believed Apres' claim that their Gel-X tips were made from a "patented soft gel" (this is the wording they use on their website). I purchased them when they first came out because my understanding was they would be easier to remove with acetone than a plastic tip and that they were better quality. I fell for it. I will never buy another Apres product again.
@@Daizee_day thank you for commenting! That is what i remember reading but i couldn't afford their prices since I'm not a professional, you have eased my mind to the fact i am not missing out and my nails come out super cute anyways 😆 see my profile pic/ done with full cover tips/ polygel / and some accents 💞
I knew it! I tried some of those gel tips from another company and it smelled just like a plastic tip when I was removing it. Had a real petroleum smell to it.
That was my take on it. It's just plastic. Which they are sculpted which is nice but still plastic. Young nails is an amazing company. You all have the best teaching. If I have questions as a DIY'r this is the place to get the best info and you also have amazing products (I finally ordered the protein bond) and im really excited. Anyhow thank you for sharing your knowledge.
That really explains Dipped in Pretty problem with the E Nail 123 go! full cover hard gel and how her nails would bend. In truth, the 'full cover gel nail' is just Plastic. Thank you so much for explaining it.
i learned decades ago that hard gel was not something u could soak off but soft gel u could. now im hearing u can soak them both off. i agree, different companies have different definitions than what WAS the industry standard yrs ago. it is very confusing sometimes.
Totally agree with you guys. I do make my own nail tips using base coat. Yes! BASE COAT! Sometimes I use builder gel too. I actually use your applicator gels to make my nails. I make them on top of dual forms. I apply it, cure it for a few coats and I have my tips. I use them as full cover nails and use the lazy girl method. I hope this makes sense
Do they have the sticky layer underneath the nail? That is the bit I wouldn’t like. Do you wipe it with isopropyl alcohol to get rid of sticky or no-wipe topcoat it? 😳😊
I use loads of different plastic ones from amazon and recently got some Kiara sky short coffins gelly tips. The only difference I have noticed is that the Kiara sky ones file down super quickly when compared to the plastic ones and using the same pressure. They seem softer but they are also thicker so the end result once the gel polish is on can look bulky. They also smell quite strong and the plastic ones I use don’t smell of anything. 🤔😏😳
Acrylic is a polymer, monomer is a polymer in liquid form and gel also contains polymer just in smaller particles therefore gel tips are plastic. Easy😁
I was so confused about what made gel tips different! I thought they must be made of soft gel that was molded and solidified somehow, but turns out it's just plastic that was maybe processed slightly differently - I do like the thickness of 'gel' tips compared to some of the regular ones I find in stores. Thanks for the information!
That would be amazing. I also buy short almonds and cut the tips off to make extra short coffin as some people have really short nail beds so short coffin is still too long.
I think the question of gel tips comes to the topic are YN full cover tips soak-off friendly? With that there is a difference on the market some plastic tips can not be soak off with acetone, and the ones that say are made of soft gel are.
Just before Christmas I got a set of full cover gel tips from Kiara Sky. They do get firmer after UV curing. But I really still didn't like them as much as just sculpting nails. It felt like my nails were being pulled on when I went about my normal activities. They're great for quick sets but not nearly as good as a real set made from acrylic powder or a non-soak off gel. It wasn't as comfortable to wear for 2 weeks.
The last 2 times I had a full acrylic set at the salon I had a horrible allergic reaction. I went to the doc and was told I have an allergy to acrylic. I went and tried polygel (not realizing it had acrylic in it) last weekend and I had a horrible reaction. I've been using just regular press ONS from marmalade and the nail gel glue gives me no problems and Ive also been using the Sistaco product with a gel topcoat with no problem. My question is... Does your builder gel products have any acrylic in them? I miss my nail extensions so bad but don't know what to use.
Our Synergy Gel system is a true hard gel, not a polygel, so it does not have acrylic in it. However, if you have allergies, you should consult with a doctor or allergist to figure out what you are having a reaction to. A lot of nail products have similar chemistry, so there may be something in both acrylic and gel that could cause a reaction.
I always said if I could feed people BS I would be rich. Marketing has ruined it cause they’ll say n do anything to convince a person to buy their product! Thank you for this video!
Lauren Wireman also made a video related to the same thing. I think the way full cover tips have been marketed by many companies is by pushing them off as “gel”. I can see how this in itself would create so much confusion not only among techs and clients.
Hi! How do I order products if I live in hawaii? Do I have to order from another retailer? I see other techs use young nails here but your website doesn’t offer shipping to hawaii ☹️
I think the difference I've noticed between plastic tips and "gel" tips are that the "gel" one shrink when you cure them. The plastic ones we are used to don't shrink when you cure. I think that's why people want "gel" plastic nails over normal plastic nails
I got some from a company I wont name that constantly says that they made theirs in a mold and that only their company had come up with a way to make gel tips that way and its being patented etc etc.. I knew either way they all are forms of plastic in varying degrees the "gel" ones were just more sculpted and adhered with gel whereas reg tips go on with glue. The gel ones actually seemed more fragile to me but I did like that u can fill them. I guess u can fill reg ones too but not if ur using them as a full cover. Either way plastic is plastic but I did feel the need to check them out as a new fad...lol. I just wonder what the whole patented mold to make these gel tips is all about and if it's even true?
The problem with full cover tips is they simply aren’t strong enough. What I’ve been doing is putting a 1mm thin layer of acrylic on a full cover tip to make them stronger. What is not in the market is a full cover French square tip with a layer of acrylic on top. If YN could manufacture something like this and marketed right, there would be a lot of money made!
In the UK the non standard salons were calling acrylic "gel" and charging £5 more a set. Scamming the girls for yeeeears. Only through TH-cam did alot of ppl learn that this was a total scam. Thank k you for making this clear. That these brands are being errr " intellectually dishonest" at best. Charging an insane markup and giving you a pretty box. It's so naughty of them. I will never buy Apres anything. Let me go order some more YN
Wow!!! I totally thought they were gel….thank you so much for this video! I was thinking though…..I wonder if when the soft gel tips first came out, they meant that they are tips to be used with soft gel, as opposed to the tips themselves being made of gel. Maybe most of the world misinterpreted the labels lol 😂 Anyway, I am nothing more than TH-cam certified….meaning I’m not a nail tech. I just do mine at home. I really enjoy your channel and you are my “go to” for nail education and tutorials. Thank you so much!!! 😊 💅 ❤
Are regular tips liquid and then formed in a mold and cured or is it air dried? It seems clear that it must start off as a liquid and poured into a mold but is it led/UV cured to harden or is it an air dry cure to harden?
Hello! Just out of curiosity, (i’m a biology student but chemistry is literally one of my favorite things) did your chemist publish any of these studies or experiments? If so, could you please link them below in a reply so I can go over them? I am a nail tech and basically from my scientific point a few all gels are essentially a type of plastic that polymerizes from a liquid to a solid. So my question would be if these so-called tips are made out of ABS plastic or what type of plastic exactly? Because there are multiple grades of plastic (polymerized gels).
Young Nails....you used to have a video showing how to apply full well nail tips applied with hard gel...but Ray told me you took it down. Why? Will you please repost it or make a new one using your tips!!!!
I literally thought these tips must be made in a machine that molds and cures them, because as you stated, that is what gel is. Pretty frustrating that these companies take the chemical composition and decide oh well it has similar chemical makeup, so it’s gel, cause as consumers, that’s not how we perceive it. And obviously they’re banking on that.
Thanks so much for the honest transparency. Just another reason I love your company, you’re not all about the money, you’re about the education, the knowledge of your customers, making sure we can be confident in the products we use and the process in which we use them. All the more reason why I’ve switched to use almost entirely young nails on my clients ❤️
Right! I mean, I had a feeling they weren’t doing all that. Intuition proven correct yet again. I was lowkey hoping I was wrong tho. Ugh of course they would, anything to make a bigger profit while using the same or cheaper materials 😩 man I really can’t stand shady marketing!
OMG I have missed your videos gurl I pray your doing well. And I'm glad they broke it down bc I finally bought "gel nails" just to compare to abs plastic ones. I was told Gel nails don't have to be roughed up on the underside before applying polygel. Haven't tried the theory yet to see if the tips just pop off like dual forms. I'm glad to know the chemical formula is basically the same and I'm not investing in a high end (gel brand tips) it's marketing schemes 🙄🙄🙄🙈
@@mandylynnswarts I’m doing good, just have been busy with nail school. I posted a New Years set and I should be posting more frequently soon cause I graduate in 2 weeks 😊 that was awesome to see a comment for me on their video tho 💖
Yes I watched it and I'm so happy congratulations to you and your journey. I couldn't start yet God called me to the hospital he said they need me right now. Hopefully covid dies so I can get my life back and can get my schooling done. Be safe out their love. I look forward to your next uploads🤗
@@mandylynnswarts that’s really awesome that you’re working in the hospital and helping with all of this. We definitely need more like you, y’all are hero’s fr. I’ll keep you in my thoughts. Stay safe love ❤️
I've been trying to explain this to fellow techs for the past year. I worked in product development for one of the world's top tip/full cover nail manufacturers for 15 years so I know the composition. Unfortunately too many refuse to believe science! Thanks for this! 🙏❤
Thank you so much for clarifying that these full cover nails are plastic . I knew this was the case all along . I commend you for your honesty !
Habib, you guys are creating so much customer loyalty and trust every time you create quality content like this!! This video was so freaking informative, thank you 👏👏👏
I first found YN watching a video on their Fibergel. I love your Fibergel!!! It just makes my nails perfect . I bought your fibergel kit with small uv light and tips and your large curing light. I do mine and my daughter's nails, and after watching all your video's, and much practice,
and lots of YN product purchases, my daughter is now a willing client 😂😂😂
She was my practice model along with myself and a fake hand. You have always been transparent and made quality products. Your training vids are excellent and I just think the world of your company. I was a buyer for Costco in 80's and 90's for Mens apparel and lawn and garden ( different times. What a mix right?!) I know when I am being given marketing bs and not facts.
Your honesty and transparency are refreshing and much needed in this industry.
As a newbie, I am glad I found YN and Im sticking with you!!
Plus you are all very entertaining! 😂😂😂
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Thank you so much!
Marketing has caused this confusing. But I love honest people like Young Nails. That's way y'all are my primary product choice.
Highly agreed. Busting all these myths and tricky terminology.
We are asking because these companies have marketed them as GEL. They claim that it’s much better than plastic. As a non professional nail enthusiast it’s really hard to find the real answer. Thank you for this video. I have spent months looking for answers.
Abs plastic vs gel plastic. That's how I always viewed it. Licensed nail techs did their best to tell me differently. I didn't budge. Some people will research while others will not.
Just think about recycling. You many be able to recycle a peanut butter jar (please clean the remaining pb in the jar prior to recycling), but you can't recycle plastic wrap. Still plastic, just different grades.
Thank you both for transparency and due diligence.😊😁😉😍
I did the research. It is all plastic but just like Saran Wrap and plastic containers are both plastic the durability is different.
ladyinmauve Thank You that's what I always thought, that they were just different grades or mixtures of different grades .
you hit the nail on the head!
That makes a lot of sense since you see the ‘bend’ test where someone will taco a tip and the (abs) plastic tip retains a white line after versus the ‘softgel’ tip springs back to shape with no visible damage.
Personally, I love gel tips lol.
If you don't have skill or time to sculpt with gel, they are great because you cure them on and that's your full set. I still put hard gel or acrylic on top and build a proper apex and all that, but the foundational work is done in a fraction of the time. And I love that I can fill my gel tip sets, which I don't think you can do with regular full cover nails, even if you cure them on with gel.
Also, the gel tips definitely soak off easier than other mediums, which is helpful for keeping healthy nails under the enhancement.
I think dismissing the whole thing as marketing is reductive, honestly. Gel and acrylic and polygel are all plastic at the end of the day, but I think we all agree that they are not the same thing and there are fundamental pros and cons that make one a better fit than others for some people.
I do the same thing with my gel tips. Like you already mentioned I don't have the time or patience to sculpt my own sets but I can fill them in, especially knowing I have a decent foundation already established.
Yes. While I appreciate the honestly about "gel" tip marketing it does kinda serve them to dismiss it because companies that focus on gel tips and products are their competitors.
YN tips are still very competitively priced with many gel tip companies but in a MUCH smaller selection of shapes, styles, and colors.
Convenience is where gel tips definitely have the edge. Short to XXL, natural and sculpted, round to stiletto, etc.
Wish more companies did the individual size refills, and wish more companies had true short/active sizes.
A truly clear nail, in active sizes in "natural" and "sculpted" C curves, with the option of individual refills would be my holy grail.
I've recently started using gelish soft gel tips and they are amazing. I knew you could use gel polish or builder gel over the top but didnt realise you could do acrylic? Have you any pictures or tutorials of this 😀
There's definitely a difference between regular abs tips and gel tips. So claim its down to marketing is very reductive
Aquaria, you can most definitely fill other kinds of full cover tips. Which we have done for years, before there was ever a gel kind of tip.
I wondered about this so thanks for sharing! I got a brand of these "gel" tips recently and as far as I could tell they're just plastic full cover tips. I've bought cheap full cover tips from amazon and they're the same thing! I did wonder how these brands could produce an actual gel tip. So you guys have totally confirmed my suspicions 👌🏼. Really sneaky marketing for companies to state these are 100% gel because obviously any experienced nail tech would automatically assume that meant actual nail gel used to form nails enhancements.
Marketing... This is how so many companies choose to market their products. Bigger.Better.Faster. Harder. Right up there with the companies that say that their dip powder is organic and healthier than acrylic enhancement products.😂
Yessss omg 😂 I see that basically everywhere “organic and healthy to make your beautiful nail" and I’m just like 🤨 and then I’ll go looking at the reviews (especially with sites like amazon) bcuz I know with advertising like that + uninformed people with improper removal methods are going to take that and run with it. Under every single dip, acrylic, hard & soft gel listed on amazon there’s someone in the reviews giving a low rating and bad review about how the product destroyed their nails 🤦♀️ the funniest I’ve seen was on an acrylic + monomer starter set. This lady said "this product should be illegal! I can’t believe it’s allowed to be sold anywhere. The chemical vapors in this product burned my lungs, I’m X-ray tech so I know what I’m talking about! I have always had strong healthy nails, now they’re soft and weak after using this once and having them on for 1 week" in that moment I so badly wished that I could reply to reviews.
Hahaha that was really funny 🤣organic dip powder? 😂I don't believe I've had the pleasure of crossing paths with that one. That was really funny tho lol 👏🏼
@@krystalfukinmarie757 🤣🤣🤣🤣yall are cracking me up!!!!
@@katielunn6394 in all reality, everything we can see, feel, or consume is "organic" in a chemists perspective. It does not mean that it makes everything healthy by any sense of the word. It just means that it exists in a natural state.
@@kelleywood4498 yeah I know I just thought what you said you read was funny. I wasn't being ugly.
Love how ya'll didn't call any companies out because we all know who they are. Ya'll did it so professional and just let us know about the nail tips. So professional I love Young Nails!
I love how you guys are so honest ... I mean we have these scammers out there getting rich on there false claims letting there customers believe whatever you guys are great.
And honestly, this is the beauty and the reason YoungNails is the best brand out there. You did not need to go out and find out that information for us, but you did. You have gone that extra step so many times for all of the techs and students who use your products the industry is full of shadows. Thank you guys so much for everything you do! My niece has started getting into doing her own nails and I have sent her in your direction as well (I'm in NC she is in ME) because I want her to know what the best is from the beginning and settle for nothing less.
You have earned my respect 100%. I set out on this mission myself and realized what was going on was fleecing buyers out of their money. Yes, quality differs but they aren’t made of gel, rather for gel. Thanks for being honest.
Well damn, you guys shook the table with this video. Thank you for providing a detailed description of what "gel" tips are. I appreciate you didn't want to be seen as bashing or singling out any brands. I think it is about acetone being able to soak off the tips.
Don't all plastic things melt in acetone? I thought that was the difference too but now I don't know
I dont want to use the word "all" because I dont know about every plastic on the planet. But 20 years ago, up to now, I have be able to dissolve, the tips used for nails, in acetone. These supposed Gel ones might dissolve faster, but ABS plastic dissolves too.
I was asked "is this a gel tip" I than shook my head in the NO positions and said it's plastic. Maybe I should have said it's acrylic because after that answer it was 101 questions and I still only had one answer "it's plastic". I wanted to say OOOOK IT'S GELL but why be dishonest when you can just say the truth. Now I don't have to feel bad and I have some backup I can refer too. Thank you for the video💐
I have the kiara sky gelly tips and everytime i file them, they smell faintly of the plastic that you find in normal tips. It had me very confused, thank you for clearing this up!
I had the exact same experience!
So the Kiara Sky gelly tips are plastic and not gel?
@@chantelcaballero5594 I think they are a soak off gel, because they are definitely softer before UV curing. But, they are probably a mix of another kind of plastic too.
Yea those are on the lower end I actually consider those true plastic.
@@chantelcaballero5594 this video obviously just went over your head and it wasn't even that deep
"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet” -Shakespeare
Bottom line...ALL ENHANCEMENTS ARE PLASTICS OF VARYING QUALITY!
Thank you for being so real! It is so messed up how companies are telling people that this is a gel tip and charging so much for them and it's not real. Times are hard and that's so wrong! I love Young Nails!!!
This is what Lauren from Wildflowers Nails also says, it's all plastic. I appreciate the transparency.
All extensions are made of acrylates. But gel tips are designed to be installed with soft gel and soak off easier than a typical plastic tip that gets glued on. I’ve seen some people saying they have put the young nail tips on with gel, and that’s great if it works for them. I think the big attraction to gel tips is the ease of removal.
Omg don’t I feel 🐑, had me all confused because when I would file the “gel tips” to take off shine it would smell like plastic ones 🤔 that’s why I love you guys, did your research fully to share with us and speak the truth while others lie just to sell 😒😒
Exactly!!!
Same my soft gel full cover tips have a plastic feel and smell when filed
@@jomartin6209 but apres gel full cover didn’t smell like plastic 🥸
@@jomartin6209 the Gel ish soft gel full cover tips use Apres technology!
I started out with these tips so I had no idea what gel smells like. I assumed it’s what gel is like. Oof.
I absolutely Love and recommend YN to everyone one. I use their products. I’m a nail technician and after seeing this video love them even more. Thanks ☺️.
Reminds me of how some regular nail polishes call themselves "gel". That one really burns me up because it's intentionally misleading consumers, just like what you're talking about here. I always tell people "if it's in a clear glass bottle, it's not gel".
I feel like this should be a no brainer considering gel uses a lamp/uv to cure (I'm *super* new to learning via youtube lol) but I never would've noticed or realized that all of my gel products are in black bottles! thank you!
@@string.cheese I feel like a lot of people don't know. You're welcome!
I asked Sally hansen why they were calling a line of polish gel when it didn't need curing and they said it's thick like gel... 😂
@@HillbillyYEEHAA omg did they really? 🙄🤦♀️
I was a chemist before nail tech(long story short) and knew about this and I don’t like to use them on my regular clients. But my coworkers worship about these nail systems so I couldn’t say the truth until now because no one was saying the truth and I knew they would not listen to me serious and I didn’t want to bother what they “want” to believe.
As someone who’s just stayed quiet the longer majority of my life about things bcuz I didn’t want to argue with people about what they believe bcuz they’ve been lied to, I’m begging you please don’t stay quiet. Although I totally understand not wanting to cause an upset in the work environment.
Love to see this comment! I'm in the engineering field becoming a nail tech (long story short) :)
@@deder9391 Hi!! Welcome to the industry 😁 it’s been a while since I wrote this comment and man nail industry just took off!! :) Beauty industry is competitive but it’s always there. I truly think I made a right choice. I hope you become very successful too!! 🥰
@@gabiew.7860 Thank you so much!!! I think I'm making the right choice for myself and my growth as well. I'm so happy for you! Thank you so much for this encouragement truly!
Of course they're plastic, that's what acrylic and gel is. There are different types of plastics with different strengths and weaknesses. I'd be interested in what different types of plastics the different companies use though. I know plenty of people just buy regular tips and use them exactly like gel tips with no problems though.
I'm so glad you brought this up. I was thinking that these "gel tips" had to be plastic. Because soft gel isn't hard.... no matter how many layers of base or color or top coat i put on, I can't make a stable extension with soft gel. I've tried before my trip to LA years back, Snr they snapped off (really they bent in half lol) the first day.
But hard gel is by definition hard, hard gel is not plastic. I'm thinking the tips that breakdown in acetone are made out of hard gel...
@@18ormorexox hard gel doesn't break down in acetone. It HAS to be filed off.
@@ilykfritos1 yes you're right! I'm trying to think here, I thought acetone could not desolve plastic and I just looked it up and it does. But it has to be plastic that has similar components to acetone...
If you've touched them, you know most soft gel tips are flexy. Of all the brands, Apres has the sturdiest feel, but I still don't recommend anyone cure them on and go, you have to add things to them to make them as resilient as a sculpted set.
Soft gel tips also lose integrity if you put them in rubbing alcohol, regular tips do not.
It's plastic yes. All this stuff is plastic lol. But it's not the same plastic as regular tips.
@@Aquaria2291 yeah I know they're flexible. All gel is flexible. So are plastic tips. Even hard gel in a layer as thin as tips can still bend quite a bit. But soft gel isn't just flexible, it straight up folds under the lightest pressure. Like Gumby 🌵😆. Doesn't even make the fun click clack sound on the table like the "soft gel" tips. Just a thud thud 😫. Anywho, I'm just saying it makes sense that "soft gel" tips don't have the same CHEMICAL properties as soft gel, because they don't even have the same PHYSICAL properties as soft gel.
Some clients are even hellbent on arguing Techs down about things we hold a license to know. It floors me every time, especially the “dip isn’t acrylic” faction. These are probably the same people who get “powder gel nails.” 😏
YESSS!! So right!
😂 you’re not wrong! My goodness when I first kept hearing of this "powder gel" when I tell you the names I’ve been called for saying "no that’s acrylic" I don’t know weather to laugh or cry. One thing I do know is people don’t read ingredient labels on these products, otherwise they’d see they’re the same thing!
I wish I saw your comment before I put mine up.....lol! Sad but true a little research goes a long way. You'd think they'd know what they're paying for 🤦🏾♀️
@@aquarius8325 right 🤷🏻♀️ maybe it’s just me but I look at ingredient labels on EVERYTHING! Shampoo, condiments, skincare, soda, chapstick, cereal boxes, makeup, etc... I might be on the edge of obsession with it tho 🤔☠️
@@krystalfukinmarie757 sounds like you're an informed customer to me 🤷♀️
Thanks so much for sharing! I use the "Gel" tips, it was my kick start for my business, the goal is hard gel sculpted extensions. The satisfaction of completing a nail set that you sculpted is just unexplainable. Its just taking me a while to get there 😆
thanks, guys for this its really appreciated it's been so insane to watch this all over the nail groups and even my followers. I am so happy someone finally addressed this.
I just had this question. You have made this subject so clear.
Oh how I hate marketing. The whole reason I started doing my own nails was because I was tired of being lied to at the nail salons. And now I'm being lied to by ppl tryna sell nail tips. I personally don't care what the chemical composition is...there's no need to lie..I WAS GONNA BUY IT ANYWAY. Thank you for being honest and telling the truth about the nail industry.
I love that you break it down 10 different ways so there are no misunderstandings- gel tips=plastic
So they shouldnt be called gel tips they are just 'full cover tips' like young nails calls theirs? Why cant all companies just be transparent like these guys lol
Love YN for the no fuss style ! It’s so great to a big company such as YN not bamboozeling the consumer with marketing jargon ! X
Thank you so much for this information. I think the marketing is like not honest. They make out like it is a different product and it is not. That is why I love you all. You are open and honest. That means so much to me. Thank you for being you. Love you all.
Thank you for ALWAYS being so honest!!!
I thought this was true.
I will probably stick to sculpting.
Thank you for this video/chat as I've been so confused lately with press on tips (making some so don't have to use my non dominant hand so can paint/decorate before putting on). As some say gel-x, soft gel tips, full cover tip etc etc-so all these are just plastic tips? Also with applying on natural nail I'm getting confused as can use gel, glue, acrylic, stick ons etc etc sorry heads still going crazy do you recommend any of your informative videos please about press ons/full cover tips 🙏
To help clarify, yes, all tips are some form of plastic, even if they are labeled “gel tips” this is still a form of plastic. There are many ways to adhere tips, it simply depends on your goals for the nails. If you want a temporary set, the sticky tabs or glue are the easiest way to apply but may only keep them on for a day or a weekend. Using gel or acrylic is going to be a more permanent application. We recommend using Fiber Gel as it is thin and won’t add bulk but has flexibility & strength to hold the tip on for an extended period of time. Here’s a great video to show you this application. th-cam.com/video/PUxXnCzjj2U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Sn7T5zTNXbTOEISl
I LOVE it that y'all did this video! I had really wondered about this (like,is there some machine that "cures" gel in full cover tip shapes? Or is it just...plastic)& i was hoping that somebody would clarify. Thank you Young Nails,u guys can always be depended depended on to be honest & transparent. I greatly appreciate that.👊
I use Aprés, and the difference to me is the breakdown ability with removing with acetone and a cotton ball. I can get Aprés off in 15 minutes, other brands don't soak off and I have to file them off and takes 30 minutes. The YN one i haven't tried to soak yet in acetone, so I think I need to do a test
Tips dissolve with acetone
I've used different brand tips and they all soak off with acetone plastic dissolves in acetone period
Valerie N. I agree I have used other brands that took forever to soak off, Apres does not take that long so they must use a DIFFERENT GRADE of plastic.
Because the chemical compound is different.
@@sarahmoss8361 this is true! That's the whole reason for the cotton soaked acetone wrapped in foil before gel became like really big, IMO. As a kid and teen, anytime I went to get my nails redone, that was always step one. And acetone dissolves the plastic itself FAST!!!
I love that your company does research & brings clarity to things like this because there's alot of "definitions". Reading the ingredients helps as well because the truth lies in there!!! Lol you guys are awesome!!!
First , thanks for your informative video! My question is if I use hard gel base on natural nails and then apply soft gel form on the top, will they bond harder than regular gel base ? Thank you
Using Synergy Base under your soft gel (maniQ/Fiber Gel) can give a little more durability to the nail.
Good to know. I've been duped into believing they were gel cured nails. I really don't know why they can't just say high quality instead of being misleading.
I actually researched gel polish and it’s a version of plastic too. The basic chemical compound in acrylic is plastic. There are different variations of plastic but we categorize them by different names so people can determine the form and/or quality.
All types of nail polish are plastic. That is why some people keep their in a fridge so it will set (cool and solidify) quicker. It’s also the reason why trying to dry nails with a hairdryer is stupid because the warmth actually slows down the drying/setting process.
@@piperjaycie Yes! But you really don’t have time to explain that to customers.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, then it's a duck...
Apres says they are gel but I have to buff the surface so gel polish sticks??? Doesn't make since to me because gel sticks to gel right??
I use Kiara sky short coffin nails as they have the best shape for short coffins. I don’t buff them and gel polish sticks fine. Never tried apres because so expensive! 😳😔
@@piperjaycie Yes they are very expensive but they did just lower prices to the pro prices across their site and I only order when they have a sale. Makes the price more doable
@@piperjaycie I've been looking for some short coffin nails. Will have to look into the kiara sky ones. Thanks for the tip!!
Search Aliexpress gel x nail tips. Much much cheaper. The coloured ones are there as well.
What is more important to know than if they are plastic because several industry leaders even Lauren Wireman of Wildflowers Nails has openly stated that they are just plastic. We need to know how to distinguish the quality of the plastic tips instead of guessing and paying more and more money to get something we hate!
I am an enthusiast not a trained tech but it really cracks me up that folks can not understand that it is ALL plastic. Whether you dip a brush in a pot of gel and use a form to make an extension and cure it or you pick up a pre-made tip (half or full) and adhere it to your natural nail in the end you have plastic nails.
This biztalk comes right on time for me. Great info, thanks for always being on tune with the new stuff going arround👌🏻
YN is awesome...so honest and down to earth...u guys are great!!
Excellent information. I will keep using my cheap short coffins since they're the shape and length I prefer (without filing anything)
Are tips better for damaged nail than full cover ? Is it okay to cover a damaged nail with a coat of acrylic and then use dip powder
Depending on the severity of damage, it may be best to sculpt an enhancement rather than trying to glue on a tip. If the damage is severe, we would recommend leaving product off the nail until the damage has had time to grow out & the nail is healthy.
I think part of the confusion is people look at the Apres Gel-X system. Their plastic tips can be adhered with soft gel rather than glue. And, the Gel-X tips, when adhered with their soft gel, can be soaked off with acetone similar to soaking off gel polish or acrylic (which lots of people confuse with gel as it is).
Yes and they advertise them that way and they are expensive as well. If it’s all plastic then I can spend 10 bucks on a box instead of 30 🤦🏾♀️
Thanks so much for clearing this up. I've been wondering about this too
And so many youtubers i watch say "you need soft gel tips because gel (gel or polygel) cures to gel, whereas the plastic tips will end up popping off" which is semi harmful to spread because ppl will think they dont have to prep "soft gel" tips and not get the desired result.
From my experience the difference between nails that are marketed as gel tips and nails that are just ABS plastic is that those gel tips are easier to soak off so the takedown process is a lot faster when compared to using ABS regular plastic tips.
Omg yessss I had this question and I wondered how that was even possible thank you!
I've been a nail tech for 40 years, while trying new items, I would "call" these full coverage tips for gel applications, gel tips, such as calling tips for acyric, acrylic tips....it was hard to watch Ya'll act so confused. I'm looking to try gel, and the tips, I wear square, don't believe you have them. Love your classes, I've learned alot, bought your acrylic, love it.
Pace your classes a little swifter, you are speaking to licensed professionals?
All good, love watching!
Ms Mgr, is a hoot, love watching her work!
i am almost positive that enailcouture said they make them manually from actual nail gel and cure them. and apres x does the same. are you saying they are NOT curing them, and they are not made with acrylic/light initiators?
also, if they are not made from gel, how is the gel base being used to adhere them instead of nail glue??? These things are like $50 a box. i might actually rage if this is true.
I remember Max saying his "gel tips" are made with his Candy Jelly builder gel. But I bought some tips off of Ali Express and compared them to his. THEY WERE THE EXACT SAME THING! They looked the same, filed the same, even smelled the same. So I thought, if his are real gel and the ones from Ali Express are plastic, then the plastic ones should dissolve faster in acetone than the ones made from real gel. But they both reacted to acetone and dissolved the exact same way! I then realized that Max is a liar and decided to save money and just buy the Ali Express tips, since they're the exact same thing anyway. The only difference is I can get a refund on the Ali Express ones if anything is wrong with them or they get lost in transit and I got them in about two weeks rather than 3-4 months. Oh, and also got them for a lot cheaper.
@@VishousTrish thanks for explaining, i wouldnt buy anything from max, but i think i needed someone to reaffirm this for me cuz the 50 times habib said it i still could not believe it.
@@VishousTrish could you picture max sitting down and being this honest? Lol me neither
So like apres "gel" full cover tips , how come they are so clear and and the quality is much better. So is it a different type of plastic than regular tips?
Yes, it's about quality. Some are just better plastic than others. Its about finding what you like most I think.
Better plastic is still plastic right? Why cant apres just say that lol instead of misleading people.
Yes, that’s what this video is about. Different plastic that makes it more durable than tips you can find at the drugstore that are flimsy.
I’m not a prof or tech, but my personal preference is hard gel extensions, just makes more sense 🤷🏻♀️ lol. My experience: I stopped going to a nail tech because they would not do the process of a base or foundation, and she would sculpt with just soft gel, no primer, and they would snap off. I was like: no it’s not worth it, she’s not doing it right. I do them myself, can’t wait to try your hard gel 👏🙌🏼
I do hear that term a lot on other peoples channels. I think that they are trying to market them to the DIY crowd who don't really know better. I know E nail Coutour and Apres' have the gel tips kits
And you do apply these kits with gel so that is why there is so much confusion i think. I know one of those companies at least was saying that the tips they have "bond" better with the gel base coat.
This is all just stuff i hear around insta and YT. i am not a pro yet but i so use the same method that those kits use and it DOES work with your basic plastic tips.
I am a professional and I actually believed Apres' claim that their Gel-X tips were made from a "patented soft gel" (this is the wording they use on their website). I purchased them when they first came out because my understanding was they would be easier to remove with acetone than a plastic tip and that they were better quality. I fell for it. I will never buy another Apres product again.
@@Daizee_day thank you for commenting! That is what i remember reading but i couldn't afford their prices since I'm not a professional, you have eased my mind to the fact i am not missing out and my nails come out super cute anyways 😆 see my profile pic/ done with full cover tips/ polygel / and some accents 💞
@@nicolecourtney8688 also Apres sells to the general public
@@candicewdowiak9254 that is what i said...they market to DIY ppl i am not a professional as stated above but still couldn't afford their prices.
I knew it! I tried some of those gel tips from another company and it smelled just like a plastic tip when I was removing it. Had a real petroleum smell to it.
That was my take on it. It's just plastic. Which they are sculpted which is nice but still plastic.
Young nails is an amazing company. You all have the best teaching. If I have questions as a DIY'r this is the place to get the best info and you also have amazing products (I finally ordered the protein bond) and im really excited. Anyhow thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Young Nails Rocks ALWAYS! 🙌🏼💖♥️💅🏻✨🙏🏻
That really explains Dipped in Pretty problem with the E Nail 123 go! full cover hard gel and how her nails would bend. In truth, the 'full cover gel nail' is just Plastic. Thank you so much for explaining it.
I was watching something else got the notification and switched asap 😂🤣
🤣🤣 Me too
i learned decades ago that hard gel was not something u could soak off but soft gel u could. now im hearing u can soak them both off. i agree, different companies have different definitions than what WAS the industry standard yrs ago. it is very confusing sometimes.
Totally agree with you guys. I do make my own nail tips using base coat. Yes! BASE COAT! Sometimes I use builder gel too. I actually use your applicator gels to make my nails. I make them on top of dual forms. I apply it, cure it for a few coats and I have my tips. I use them as full cover nails and use the lazy girl method. I hope this makes sense
Do they have the sticky layer underneath the nail? That is the bit I wouldn’t like. Do you wipe it with isopropyl alcohol to get rid of sticky or no-wipe topcoat it? 😳😊
@@piperjaycie yes because it is base coat. I wanted to see if I could convert my nail tips into full covered nails and base coat is the best way
I use loads of different plastic ones from amazon and recently got some Kiara sky short coffins gelly tips. The only difference I have noticed is that the Kiara sky ones file down super quickly when compared to the plastic ones and using the same pressure. They seem softer but they are also thicker so the end result once the gel polish is on can look bulky. They also smell quite strong and the plastic ones I use don’t smell of anything. 🤔😏😳
Acrylic is a polymer, monomer is a polymer in liquid form and gel also contains polymer just in smaller particles therefore gel tips are plastic. Easy😁
This was a year ago but it needs to be shared just as much, if not more, today!
I was so confused about what made gel tips different! I thought they must be made of soft gel that was molded and solidified somehow, but turns out it's just plastic that was maybe processed slightly differently - I do like the thickness of 'gel' tips compared to some of the regular ones I find in stores. Thanks for the information!
I’m wondering if there will be any other sizes as far as length......
thanks for the feedback! We will let the team know!
Short coffin without that weird end side curve would be amazing. No one seems to get that shape right and I’m not sure why.
@SazRob that is EXACTLY what I'm looking for. A short option in all of them would be awesome!
That would be amazing. I also buy short almonds and cut the tips off to make extra short coffin as some people have really short nail beds so short coffin is still too long.
I think the question of gel tips comes to the topic are YN full cover tips soak-off friendly? With that there is a difference on the market some plastic tips can not be soak off with acetone, and the ones that say are made of soft gel are.
I think people were asking if they are applied as how gel x nails are applied. Which is adhering them with gel instead of glue
Just before Christmas I got a set of full cover gel tips from Kiara Sky. They do get firmer after UV curing. But I really still didn't like them as much as just sculpting nails. It felt like my nails were being pulled on when I went about my normal activities. They're great for quick sets but not nearly as good as a real set made from acrylic powder or a non-soak off gel. It wasn't as comfortable to wear for 2 weeks.
The last 2 times I had a full acrylic set at the salon I had a horrible allergic reaction. I went to the doc and was told I have an allergy to acrylic. I went and tried polygel (not realizing it had acrylic in it) last weekend and I had a horrible reaction. I've been using just regular press ONS from marmalade and the nail gel glue gives me no problems and Ive also been using the Sistaco product with a gel topcoat with no problem. My question is... Does your builder gel products have any acrylic in them? I miss my nail extensions so bad but don't know what to use.
Our Synergy Gel system is a true hard gel, not a polygel, so it does not have acrylic in it. However, if you have allergies, you should consult with a doctor or allergist to figure out what you are having a reaction to. A lot of nail products have similar chemistry, so there may be something in both acrylic and gel that could cause a reaction.
Thank you so much. Very informative.
I always said if I could feed people BS I would be rich. Marketing has ruined it cause they’ll say n do anything to convince a person to buy their product! Thank you for this video!
Yes thank you for being to honest with this video!!!!
Lauren Wireman also made a video related to the same thing. I think the way full cover tips have been marketed by many companies is by pushing them off as “gel”. I can see how this in itself would create so much confusion not only among techs and clients.
I knew it! Lol This is why I have and always will, TRUST YOUNG NAILS! 😊
Thank you for this honesty!:
Hi! How do I order products if I live in hawaii? Do I have to order from another retailer? I see other techs use young nails here but your website doesn’t offer shipping to hawaii ☹️
you can reach out to ray@youngnails.com and he can help you out. ❤️
Thank you !for the info I always thought they came up with a way to cure gel in molds to make the tips 🤔😒 thank you young nails
I think the difference I've noticed between plastic tips and "gel" tips are that the "gel" one shrink when you cure them. The plastic ones we are used to don't shrink when you cure. I think that's why people want "gel" plastic nails over normal plastic nails
Why would shrinking be preferred? I’ve noticed it too tho
I got some from a company I wont name that constantly says that they made theirs in a mold and that only their company had come up with a way to make gel tips that way and its being patented etc etc.. I knew either way they all are forms of plastic in varying degrees the "gel" ones were just more sculpted and adhered with gel whereas reg tips go on with glue. The gel ones actually seemed more fragile to me but I did like that u can fill them. I guess u can fill reg ones too but not if ur using them as a full cover. Either way plastic is plastic but I did feel the need to check them out as a new fad...lol. I just wonder what the whole patented mold to make these gel tips is all about and if it's even true?
I'm waiting on my Apres package to arrive and I can tell you that I feel completely duped out of my money
The problem with full cover tips is they simply aren’t strong enough. What I’ve been doing is putting a 1mm thin layer of acrylic on a full cover tip to make them stronger. What is not in the market is a full cover French square tip with a layer of acrylic on top. If YN could manufacture something like this and marketed right, there would be a lot of money made!
Thank You for the information!!!
In the UK the non standard salons were calling acrylic "gel" and charging £5 more a set. Scamming the girls for yeeeears. Only through TH-cam did alot of ppl learn that this was a total scam.
Thank k you for making this clear. That these brands are being errr " intellectually dishonest" at best. Charging an insane markup and giving you a pretty box. It's so naughty of them. I will never buy Apres anything.
Let me go order some more YN
Thanks for highlighting this topic 😊💅
Wow!!! I totally thought they were gel….thank you so much for this video! I was thinking though…..I wonder if when the soft gel tips first came out, they meant that they are tips to be used with soft gel, as opposed to the tips themselves being made of gel. Maybe most of the world misinterpreted the labels lol 😂 Anyway, I am nothing more than TH-cam certified….meaning I’m not a nail tech. I just do mine at home. I really enjoy your channel and you are my “go to” for nail education and tutorials. Thank you so much!!! 😊 💅 ❤
Are regular tips liquid and then formed in a mold and cured or is it air dried? It seems clear that it must start off as a liquid and poured into a mold but is it led/UV cured to harden or is it an air dry cure to harden?
AND you attach the hardened plastic with the liquid/fluid plastic!
Hello! Just out of curiosity, (i’m a biology student but chemistry is literally one of my favorite things) did your chemist publish any of these studies or experiments? If so, could you please link them below in a reply so I can go over them? I am a nail tech and basically from my scientific point a few all gels are essentially a type of plastic that polymerizes from a liquid to a solid. So my question would be if these so-called tips are made out of ABS plastic or what type of plastic exactly? Because there are multiple grades of plastic (polymerized gels).
No, I do not believe they did.
Young Nails....you used to have a video showing how to apply full well nail tips applied with hard gel...but Ray told me you took it down. Why? Will you please repost it or make a new one using your tips!!!!
we have some things in the works but we will add this to the list as well (:
@@youngnailsinc thank you!!💕
I wish you had square tip full cover nails!
Is there a video on how to deal with grown out gel tips nails. How do you completely remove them? I’d like to see a video on dealing with them.
Here is a great video for you: th-cam.com/video/rmYa7D-M6bY/w-d-xo.html