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Don’t understand why hardly anybody talks about this. For months I have been trying to figure out what’s wrong with my swing and here it is. Great video.
Watched your video this morning and went out this afternoon and shot 74. First time under 80 in 5 months Was really struggling bringing the club inside. This video was very helpful
My coach got me squeezing the club with the bottom two fingers to start the backswing, this picks the club up and stops any inside motion. Lots of great points in the video, thanks.
ive had several lessons this summer and the pro has emphasised this club head outside hands move, what is problematic to many 'average' mid handicap/hi handicap golfers is after the initial takeaway the club head appears 'shut' or closed but this is an illusion, its still square to the target line, the vast majority of the worlds greatest players past and present were seeking to do this move, some did it intuitively, yes there were some that pulled it inside quickly but they had to make compensations from then on the keep the club on plane, and their swings relied a lot on pure timing, the pros want to keep the club face square and stable throughout the swing and use trunk rotation to square the clubhead and this approach is a major key to doing that, since i started doing this earlier in the year my ball striking has improved greatly, i recently hit my best gross score (83) and have taken my handicap from 29 to 15 in six months, it works!! thanks and cheers
Had a lesson today with this being the main swing thought, that and practicing hitting fades to help neutralise my incredibly in to out path. I was the opposite, i'd roll the hands in on the backswing but it would get stuck behind me therefore further inside to out and it would cause me to have the shanks/push-fades. Hitting fades with a 5 iron during a warmup will become a drill i do to help me feel more steep and feel like i'm swinging left. Though if it turns out hitting a little fade is more consistent I may stick with it.
Yes, it does take a bit of practice feeling comfortable. This is something I've had to battle with also. Sounds like a good drill to practice. Definitely, if the fade works for you then stick with it. Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers
Used to do this well and for a whole 12 months I didn't realize I was pulling the head inside, therefore having a nasty slice and rolling my hands. I realized a few days ago this was the issue, but not being a swing expert, I wasn't sure. Your video confirmed for me and is a great explanation of the results of taking away right and wrong. Thanks!!
I found if I feel I am starting the takeaway with the clubhead and let the weight of the club set the top of the backswing, I get a good downswing by turning my body to the target. I used to manipulate my wrists to start the backswing and was very inconsistent. Took lessons that never helped. Figured it out watching guys like you on TH-cam.
Hey Troy worked on this yesterday at the range and it seemed the more I bent over (creating more angle between forearm and club) the more solid I struck the ball it was easier to feel the hinge going back effectively keeping the clubhead outside the hands...this seems to fly in the face of most teaching that says stand tall at address but the taller I stand the more I tend to pull it inside on the takeaway....great video by the way!
Hey there, yeah standing taller is fine with the longer clubs like the driver, but is perfectly fine with the irons. I don't see it as an issue as long as it feels comfortable and you're getting the results. Cheers
Me exactly. I trained myself way inside trying to fix my over the top. Developed a wrist roll to square the face. Very bad and inconsistent. Current swing feel is to get real vertical with the shaft. When I feel vertical, the real gets the club in a good position. Going to use your tips and positions to verify I'm changing for the better. Thanks for your vids.
Always been an issue for me. I try to keep the clubface looking at the ball which corresponds with your elbow facing the ground tip. Also to keep the path more outside I feel like I'm hitting a fade. Nice video thanks
My problem taking the club to the inside comes from (in what i beleived in my thought process) taking away a "cupped" wrist at the top. It all comes from having a wrong wrist hinge, in fact having a cuped wrist in the top never really bothered me more than mentally in creating a good swing, because it was my to go move to then come down with a flat wrist at impact hitting solid shots. So your video really helped me coming back to hit really descent shots again.
I like the concept of keeping the right hand flat on the takeaway. I have a tendency to separate the elbows too much on the backswing and would like to see a video which could help me fix this problem.
Hi, I hear a lot of people say to get the club completely parallel at the start of the swing and have the butt end facing towards the target. So according to this video, do you instead want the butt end facing sort of towards your left thigh and then from that position hinge and turn?
good drills re the left forearm and elbow. when I try to take club back "straight", too often my arms will separate from from torso resulting in predictably unpredictable shots.
This has to be the most or at least one of the most important parts of the swing...keep that thing from whipping inside especially under pressure is really illogical and very difficult to do, but once you engrain it it solves a lot of faults
totally struggling with this past 15 years. so many lessons tried diff feels, yet i just turn in. Have tried keeping the butt dragging along the right thigh on take away, tried rotating left fore arm anti clock wise on take away, nothing worked. Gonna try the elbow pointing downwards, also keeping right wrist flatter longer ( with or without hinging) and the belly drill.... fingers crossed. So desperate to get this right.
I recently changed my swing as I noticed I was really cupping my left wrist causing a very open club face. I used the feel of bowing my wrist (although in reality it ends up pretty neutral) and for a while I was playing the best golf of my life. But eventually (without me even noticing I was changing anything) I think the wrist movement caused me to start rolling the club very inside my hands. I've gotten to the point where 75% of my shots are shanks off the hozzle. I'm pretty close to just quitting golf so if you have any extra tips for me I would appreciate it more than you know! I want to keep my wrist movement if possible because it really helps me close the face.
Hi Aaron, I'd have to see your golf swing to see specifically what's going on. Are you able to send me a down the line and face on view in slow motion. Especially a shank shot. Cheers
Hi Troy, thanks for your help. ..can I ask you do we keep that feeling of club head outside the hands all the way to the top of backswing even while pronating a bit, I find this swing thought helps hugely but I’m wondering am I overdoing it if I do it all the way to the top, thanks C
Thanks, no problem. For me, I only keep the feeling until about half way back and then I let the club hinge naturally so I have more of a flatter lead wrist at the top.
@@Hittingitsolid as I take the club back it feels like the top of the grip gets a little further away and if I try to stop this then the club gets pulled inside
Great advice but I find it’s very hard to get hands deep in backswing (as opposed to high and steep) when I try to keep club head outside of hands in takeaway. Normal? Any advice?
Hi Mike, I would try to keep it as straight as you can without too much effort. Some good players have it slightly bent and some have it straight. You can play good golf with both. You can still generate plenty of power if it's slightly bent, so I wouldn't be concerned if you can't keep it straight. Cheers
Great vid Troy. I need your advice. By experimenting I have found a way of returning the clubface square at ballstrike and by chance it also keeps my hands outside as per your video. At address I start the backswing by first cocking my wrists up so the clubhead is still behind the ball but raised above the ground by several inches. At the top of the backswing my trail wrist is now automatically slightly bowed and provided I rotate on the downswing (as per your downswing rotation video) I found the clubhead is invariably square at ballstrike. It looks a bit odd but it seems to work. Am I bonkers or is there some logic to it and worth working with?
Thanks Steve, I always say if something is working to stick with it. I generally don't advocate a vary bowed trail wrist at the top of the backswing because that would make the lead wrist very cupped and have the club most likely across the line. But, as I said if it's working well for you and getting the results then definitely keep doing it. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid Thanks Troy. My trail wrist has only a very slight bow and I am not having to do anything else to achieve that. The downswing in that position only works IF I rotate correctly so I work on lessons from your downswing rotation vids.
I’ve been struggling with this for years. If I manage to keep the club outside the hands it seems to close the club face at the top of my backswing. Should I be trying to something to avoid this.
A closed clubface could be related to your grip or other wrist conditions. If you have a flat lead wrist at the top of the backswing, usually the clubface won't be closed. Cheers
I have tried to keep my hands outside, but for some reason when I do this I feel like I can't turn as well? it seems conterintuitive..... By taking it back that way it feels to steep? Can you help me?
Hi John, a good feel for you would be to feel your left shoulder lower during the takeaway and backswing. The thing to remember is having a steep backswing is not a bad thing, I actually prefer it. It helps with shallowing in the downswing. If you're too flat in the backswing it can cause you to come down steep in the downswing. Hope that helps. Cheers
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Don’t understand why hardly anybody talks about this. For months I have been trying to figure out what’s wrong with my swing and here it is. Great video.
Thanks John, appreciate it
One of best backswing videos I’ve ever seen. he provides great content and seems to appreciate his viewers. Well done!
Thank you so much, appreciate your support.
Watched your video this morning and went out this afternoon and shot 74. First time under 80 in 5 months
Was really struggling bringing the club inside. This video was very helpful
My coach got me squeezing the club with the bottom two fingers to start the backswing, this picks the club up and stops any inside motion. Lots of great points in the video, thanks.
Thanks David, yes that's a great thing to work on too. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid I also like the “left elbow down” thought
@@inuvik491 Yes, a great feel.
Just focusing on keeping club head outside the hands alone helps so much. Thank you.
Thanks Sean, appreciate it
ive had several lessons this summer and the pro has emphasised this club head outside hands move, what is problematic to many 'average' mid handicap/hi handicap golfers is after the initial takeaway the club head appears 'shut' or closed but this is an illusion, its still square to the target line, the vast majority of the worlds greatest players past and present were seeking to do this move, some did it intuitively, yes there were some that pulled it inside quickly but they had to make compensations from then on the keep the club on plane, and their swings relied a lot on pure timing, the pros want to keep the club face square and stable throughout the swing and use trunk rotation to square the clubhead and this approach is a major key to doing that, since i started doing this earlier in the year my ball striking has improved greatly, i recently hit my best gross score (83) and have taken my handicap from 29 to 15 in six months, it works!! thanks and cheers
Thank you, great to hear you're making some nice improvements with this. It is a very key move. Cheers
Always a pleasure learning from you Troy. I think you should have loads more subscribers as the instruction is very beneficial and so easy to follow.
Thanks Rich, I appreciate your wonderful support. Thanks
Had a lesson today with this being the main swing thought, that and practicing hitting fades to help neutralise my incredibly in to out path. I was the opposite, i'd roll the hands in on the backswing but it would get stuck behind me therefore further inside to out and it would cause me to have the shanks/push-fades. Hitting fades with a 5 iron during a warmup will become a drill i do to help me feel more steep and feel like i'm swinging left. Though if it turns out hitting a little fade is more consistent I may stick with it.
Yes, it does take a bit of practice feeling comfortable. This is something I've had to battle with also. Sounds like a good drill to practice. Definitely, if the fade works for you then stick with it. Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers
Used to do this well and for a whole 12 months I didn't realize I was pulling the head inside, therefore having a nasty slice and rolling my hands. I realized a few days ago this was the issue, but not being a swing expert, I wasn't sure. Your video confirmed for me and is a great explanation of the results of taking away right and wrong. Thanks!!
Great to hear it worked. Cheers
This is perfect 👍 I’m doing it now and hitting the ball the straightest I’ve ever done.
Thanks Greg, glad it helped you out. Cheers
I found if I feel I am starting the takeaway with the clubhead and let the weight of the club set the top of the backswing, I get a good downswing by turning my body to the target. I used to manipulate my wrists to start the backswing and was very inconsistent. Took lessons that never helped. Figured it out watching guys like you on TH-cam.
Glad it’s helped Peter
Thank You, This just complemented my lesson with my local golf teaching pro… Perfect 👍
No worries at all
Club to the belly and swing is a great drill--really feel the move. Thanks.
Thanks Mark, yes I use this one a lot. Cheers
Nice Lesson Troy , Should have way more Subscribers! Good stuff , Thanks!
Thanks Daryl, appreciate your support. Cheers
I agree.
Great tip with the elbow and hinge..
Thanks Kevin.
Hey Troy worked on this yesterday at the range and it seemed the more I bent over (creating more angle between forearm and club) the more solid I struck the ball it was easier to feel the hinge going back effectively keeping the clubhead outside the hands...this seems to fly in the face of most teaching that says stand tall at address but the taller I stand the more I tend to pull it inside on the takeaway....great video by the way!
Hey there, yeah standing taller is fine with the longer clubs like the driver, but is perfectly fine with the irons. I don't see it as an issue as long as it feels comfortable and you're getting the results. Cheers
Me exactly. I trained myself way inside trying to fix my over the top. Developed a wrist roll to square the face. Very bad and inconsistent.
Current swing feel is to get real vertical with the shaft. When I feel vertical, the real gets the club in a good position.
Going to use your tips and positions to verify I'm changing for the better.
Thanks for your vids.
Thank you, hope it helps you out. Cheers
Hi Troy this is really good instruction and explanation! Thanks! Will give it a go!
Thank you Mark
Good lesson!..thanks!
brilliant this thanku as im really struggling with coming inside for a long time !
Thanks Mick, glad it helped you out. Cheers
Found a good tip that worked for me was to keep your hands quite close to your right leg in the first part of the take away
Yes Alan, that's a great feel to have. Cheers
Always been an issue for me. I try to keep the clubface looking at the ball which corresponds with your elbow facing the ground tip. Also to keep the path more outside I feel like I'm hitting a fade. Nice video thanks
Thank you, appreciate it
My problem taking the club to the inside comes from (in what i beleived in my thought process) taking away a "cupped" wrist at the top. It all comes from having a wrong wrist hinge, in fact having a cuped wrist in the top never really bothered me more than mentally in creating a good swing, because it was my to go move to then come down with a flat wrist at impact hitting solid shots. So your video really helped me coming back to hit really descent shots again.
Thanks Rootsi, glad it helped. Cheers
I can definitely relate to this. Gonna give this a try next time at the range.
Perfect :)
I tend to go inside. Bad muscle memory. It makes me go very slightly OTT which aids inconsistency. Good lesson. Thanks.
Thanks Roger, yes definitely been there before. Glad this helped you out. Cheers
I like the concept of keeping the right hand flat on the takeaway. I have a tendency to separate the elbows too much on the backswing and would like to see a video which could help me fix this problem.
Thanks Chris, no problem mate. I'll work on producing something to help you out with elbow separation. Cheers
great advice and tips. thanks so much.
Thanks Ken, appreciate it.
I was working on getting my right hip back during the backswing. That helped keep my hands from rolling inside, somewhat...
Yes Gregory, definitely helps with that. Cheers
Great information here thank you
Thanks Peter
Great video! Super calm and simple instruction. Thank you.
Thanks Cody, appreciate it.
Hi, I hear a lot of people say to get the club completely parallel at the start of the swing and have the butt end facing towards the target. So according to this video, do you instead want the butt end facing sort of towards your left thigh and then from that position hinge and turn?
Yes I do. But, the other method is fine. You just don’t to be taking the club too far in the inside.
good drills re the left forearm and elbow. when I try to take club back "straight", too often my arms will separate from from torso resulting in predictably unpredictable shots.
Thanks Ken
This has to be the most or at least one of the most important parts of the swing...keep that thing from whipping inside especially under pressure is really illogical and very difficult to do, but once you engrain it it solves a lot of faults
It is super important Mark
That was great. Thank you. But what happens from the takeaway to take the club to the top? Cheers.
Thank you, keep rotating and hinge the wrists hips as your arms lift up. Does that make sense? Cheers
totally struggling with this past 15 years. so many lessons tried diff feels, yet i just turn in. Have tried keeping the butt dragging along the right thigh on take away, tried rotating left fore arm anti clock wise on take away, nothing worked. Gonna try the elbow pointing downwards, also keeping right wrist flatter longer ( with or without hinging) and the belly drill.... fingers crossed. So desperate to get this right.
Good luck with it, I hope it works out for you. Cheers
I recently changed my swing as I noticed I was really cupping my left wrist causing a very open club face. I used the feel of bowing my wrist (although in reality it ends up pretty neutral) and for a while I was playing the best golf of my life. But eventually (without me even noticing I was changing anything) I think the wrist movement caused me to start rolling the club very inside my hands. I've gotten to the point where 75% of my shots are shanks off the hozzle. I'm pretty close to just quitting golf so if you have any extra tips for me I would appreciate it more than you know! I want to keep my wrist movement if possible because it really helps me close the face.
Hi Aaron, I'd have to see your golf swing to see specifically what's going on. Are you able to send me a down the line and face on view in slow motion. Especially a shank shot. Cheers
Hi Troy, thanks for your help.
..can I ask you do we keep that feeling of club head outside the hands all the way to the top of backswing even while pronating a bit, I find this swing thought helps hugely but I’m wondering am I overdoing it if I do it all the way to the top,
thanks
C
Thanks, no problem. For me, I only keep the feeling until about half way back and then I let the club hinge naturally so I have more of a flatter lead wrist at the top.
@@Hittingitsolid
..ah ok, very good, thanks for replying and thanks again for all your help with the golf swing
@@cdunne1620 No problem :)
Should the top of the grip stay fixed distance from body throughout the connected/one-piece takeaway?
Yes Steve, it should stay roughly the same distance away from the body. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid as I take the club back it feels like the top of the grip gets a little further away and if I try to stop this then the club gets pulled inside
Try feeling the trail elbow tucked a bit more to your ribs and it should provide a better connection @@stevetriner8715
Great advice but I find it’s very hard to get hands deep in backswing (as opposed to high and steep) when I try to keep club head outside of hands in takeaway. Normal? Any advice?
Thanks, feel your trail leg straighten a bit more in the backswing. This will push the hips back and take the hands back a bit more with it
Should I aim to keep my lead arm straight at the top of the backswing Troy or slightly bent? Would the latter lose power?
Hi Mike, I would try to keep it as straight as you can without too much effort. Some good players have it slightly bent and some have it straight. You can play good golf with both. You can still generate plenty of power if it's slightly bent, so I wouldn't be concerned if you can't keep it straight. Cheers
Does this apply to Driver as well?
Yes it does, every club in the bag
When should you start hinging your wrists upwards?
Sorry for the late reply. When the lead arm gets parallel to the ground. Although it is slightly different for all golfers. Hope that helps. Cheers
Great vid Troy. I need your advice. By experimenting I have found a way of returning the clubface square at ballstrike and by chance it also keeps my hands outside as per your video. At address I start the backswing by first cocking my wrists up so the clubhead is still behind the ball but raised above the ground by several inches. At the top of the backswing my trail wrist is now automatically slightly bowed and provided I rotate on the downswing (as per your downswing rotation video) I found the clubhead is invariably square at ballstrike. It looks a bit odd but it seems to work. Am I bonkers or is there some logic to it and worth working with?
Thanks Steve, I always say if something is working to stick with it. I generally don't advocate a vary bowed trail wrist at the top of the backswing because that would make the lead wrist very cupped and have the club most likely across the line. But, as I said if it's working well for you and getting the results then definitely keep doing it. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid Thanks Troy. My trail wrist has only a very slight bow and I am not having to do anything else to achieve that. The downswing in that position only works IF I rotate correctly so I work on lessons from your downswing rotation vids.
@@sventiger55 ok, no worries Steve
I’ve been struggling with this for years. If I manage to keep the club outside the hands it seems to close the club face at the top of my backswing. Should I be trying to something to avoid this.
A closed clubface could be related to your grip or other wrist conditions. If you have a flat lead wrist at the top of the backswing, usually the clubface won't be closed. Cheers
I have tried to keep my hands outside, but for some reason when I do this I feel like I can't turn as well? it seems conterintuitive..... By taking it back that way it feels to steep? Can you help me?
Hi John, a good feel for you would be to feel your left shoulder lower during the takeaway and backswing. The thing to remember is having a steep backswing is not a bad thing, I actually prefer it. It helps with shallowing in the downswing. If you're too flat in the backswing it can cause you to come down steep in the downswing. Hope that helps. Cheers
I have tried and tried to do what you suggest but still struggle. Can you please help
Hi Manjit, have you tried feeling like your right arm stays above your left during the first half of the backswing? Cheers
This has been my fault for 40 years!
Yes Kevin, I've been there myself :)