Dude this is a solid overview and provides some realistic expectation/understanding of limitations. And top notch production quality. New subscriber earned.
as a mechanical engineering student and engineering /3d printing enthusiast... i need one, one day ... thank you soo much for all your great work ♥💯 keep it up mate !
The method can be used with a variety of materials but you'll need the proper laser in order to engrave those materials. This isn't using the proper watt strengths or type of laser unfortunately. Just polymer for this machine.
Thank you for doing a video on this. Hearing from a trusted member of the community with the same applications and interests as myself is super valuable. I’m hoping to get my hands on one and be an early user. This kind of tech could be a game changer, if it’s everything it promises to be. I wonder if they plan to allow for modular upgrades of any kind to future-proof this model, and what the cost of regular use would turn out to be.
Thanks for the support and kind words! I'm hoping they follow bambu in one aspect and that's in the product roadmap. If they nail this one, they'll be in a good spot to have some more niche it more general machines.
I honestly can't wait to get my hands on one. As a pew enthusiast and also a MechE whose goal is to have a aftermarket automotive fab shop, I think have the capability of SLS without the 30k price tag will be really nice. The only thing now I've been thinking on is the build volume. I have take a look at it and is almost seems like its not the most usable but then again without having to worry about orientation that may not be a issue. We will just have to wait and see.
@@MiddletonMade3D very true on that front as it is the only true obstacle! I do have a lathe and a mill at my disposal so long as I can find good stock I could probably turn out some parts. That or hk parts has an mp7 parts kit for sale for 20k 😆😆😆
if you join the discord you can get updates there actually making a major update in the next couple weeks apparently they have sent over 20 units to TH-camrs and reviewers
sls is awesome because of PA2200 (nylon).. you almost can't destroy those parts.. but the prozess has it's downsides 1. powder cost and mixing (old/new in 50/50) 2. energy and the probs with shrinking and warping... and there is the rule of printing time=cooling time.. so awesome parts but not easy and expensive.. to me it's to much mess and not good for health..
Yeah, if one is concerned about their health, there are definitely a lot of precautions one would need to take if they want to get those. Microplastics away
I think SLS will be the future for at-home printers (eventually) - like you said, there's a lot of things to overcome. I don't think Micronics will be the Creality of SLS, not yet atleast - but we're getting there eventually. I'm not super excited with the print QUALITY of finished parts from the Micronics, but im sure the strength is much better than FDM. Hopefully we can see cheap nylon SLS printers by the end of 2030, since the inevitable competition is good for us consumers.
I'd like to do a print quality comparison video at some point, but I agree. This isn't going to be in most people's homes, but a lot of serious printers will level up with this. The future is bright for 3D printing.
Thanks for ordering a sample part! Sorry if the quality isn't as good as you may have hoped. We are still in the process of dialing in our process parameters and we were a bit overwhelmed by all the online orders rushing in. Just shoot us a message and we would be happy to get your parts re-printed and shipped free of charge 😊😊
Just looked them up and they uploaded a video on YT a little over a week ago. Guy claims they will release in "a few months". I'm excited to see these in consumer hands.
@@MiddletonMade3D I think a lot of people immediately disregarded it as a rugpull because of the general tone of the announcement video and lack of build up to it. I really hope it isn't though, this could be a crazy step forward in home manufacturing
Formlabs is the entry point prosumer sls toy maker . look up brands like: 3D Systems, EOS, Renishaw, LAR Technologies, Concept Laser Machines , then Sinterit and Formlabs. I wont bother people here with really high specs SLS printers as it is NASA budget , but above companies have machines more precise , faster and more robust than Sinterit and Formlabs put together - just the fact they come with 5 year warranty or 10 should be a benchy ?
I think the Formlabs machines are able to create some really incredible things. It really comes down to the abilities of the software that are tied to them. When will be be able to do shelled parts with or without infill and be able to place a drain port in SLS? The optimization they've done in the slicer with Micronics, using UE5 is a big step up. If all of these companies could put their heads together, it would really be something groundbreaking for the industry, not just one company.
@@MiddletonMade3D 3k seems way to low with no stepping stones to it. I also don't like Kickstarter. I want this to be true, but I'm not hoping on the hypetrain. I hope they seed printers out to reviewers soon.
Crowdfunding is always sketchy to me. They seem at least genuine and showing a working model and not some BS like some of those diving apparatuses. Time will tell!
SLS prints are as strong as their injection molded or cast equivalent but are cheaper to produce. The industry has been using SLS printing for years already, but you don't see it because it's all internal parts like gears.
While the printer is reasonably priced for a SLS printer at 3 grand, it might be a commodity for only a few select wealthy individuals and businesses, considering the powder you have to buy to use it costs more than 200 bucks per 5 liter of it. I hope they have plans to sell the powder in smaller quantities, especially considering Micronics quotes the powder at being priced at 88 bucks per Kg but sells it by volume and not by mass.
That's a barrier I could have expanded upon further. Materials are costly in general and for them to sell less skus, they'll sell in a moderate volume. For not needing supports, we may actually get a little more out of the material mass than with fdm.
@@MiddletonMade3D The powder is listed as having 0.47Kg\L density, which would give you aprox. 2.33 Kg of it per 5.3l bottle. Assuming you can get more prints compared to the same quantity of filament or resin, then it could be argued to be reasonably priced. Of course, we'll only know about it once consumers purchase one and do some sort of long term review.
What I do not understand how this differs from resin printing and couldn't one so the same thing with resin and a laser? It looks like a cool technology though
Sorta. There's a chamber heater that keeps the material right below it's melting point and the mechanics of repowering require different hardware to accomplish incremental layers.
Dude this is a solid overview and provides some realistic expectation/understanding of limitations. And top notch production quality. New subscriber earned.
Thanks CHase! I hope you enjoy your stay. Thanks for the support.
as a mechanical engineering student and engineering /3d printing enthusiast... i need one, one day ... thank you soo much for all your great work ♥💯 keep it up mate !
Thanks! I appreciate the support. Best of luck in your education.
@@MiddletonMade3D thank you very much means alot
Can these print with metal? i thought that was what SLS was for? titanium/brass/copper etc
The method can be used with a variety of materials but you'll need the proper laser in order to engrave those materials. This isn't using the proper watt strengths or type of laser unfortunately. Just polymer for this machine.
Thank you for doing a video on this. Hearing from a trusted member of the community with the same applications and interests as myself is super valuable.
I’m hoping to get my hands on one and be an early user. This kind of tech could be a game changer, if it’s everything it promises to be. I wonder if they plan to allow for modular upgrades of any kind to future-proof this model, and what the cost of regular use would turn out to be.
Thanks for the support and kind words! I'm hoping they follow bambu in one aspect and that's in the product roadmap. If they nail this one, they'll be in a good spot to have some more niche it more general machines.
They just published a video saying they plan to kickstart in June of this year.
I saw! Literally 3 hours after I posted. RIP. Haha
Absolutely want to know more as it becomes available!
They've been sharing a few videos that are worth a watch. I'm hoping to be able to do more videos on them soon.
This is exciting an u can bet when it comes out ill have one for sure.
Same man. I really hope it lives up to my expectations.
Kickstarter is today at noon so you better snatch one up
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Nice backgrounder parts... Love the shirt. Wish more had that take.
Thanks! There's usually a very positive reaction from the community when I wear it but it definitely draws some attention
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I honestly can't wait to get my hands on one. As a pew enthusiast and also a MechE whose goal is to have a aftermarket automotive fab shop, I think have the capability of SLS without the 30k price tag will be really nice. The only thing now I've been thinking on is the build volume. I have take a look at it and is almost seems like its not the most usable but then again without having to worry about orientation that may not be a issue. We will just have to wait and see.
I completely agree! I'd love to be able to get some longer parts in here.
Im definitely going to be picking one up to push the limit and see what car parts/ gun parts I can make on it!
I'm with you on that!
@@MiddletonMade3D heck yeah! I’m wondering if I could possibly make my own mp7 with this sls printer 😆
Probably. It would really just depend on the parts availability for metal components
@@MiddletonMade3D very true on that front as it is the only true obstacle! I do have a lathe and a mill at my disposal so long as I can find good stock I could probably turn out some parts. That or hk parts has an mp7 parts kit for sale for 20k 😆😆😆
if you join the discord you can get updates there actually making a major update in the next couple weeks apparently they have sent over 20 units to TH-camrs and reviewers
Bingo!
@@MiddletonMade3Ddid you get one?
Not yet. I'll be signing up for the kick starter and hoping for the best from there 🤞
The detail of resin with the strength to not snap into pieces.
Theoretically at least! SLS has been pretty great so far for me but I haven't tried this machine yet.
thank you middleton for this nice video
Thanks man, I appreciate that. You're absolutely welcome.
sls is awesome because of PA2200 (nylon).. you almost can't destroy those parts.. but the prozess has it's downsides 1. powder cost and mixing (old/new in 50/50) 2. energy and the probs with shrinking and warping... and there is the rule of printing time=cooling time.. so awesome parts but not easy and expensive.. to me it's to much mess and not good for health..
Yeah, if one is concerned about their health, there are definitely a lot of precautions one would need to take if they want to get those. Microplastics away
I think SLS will be the future for at-home printers (eventually) - like you said, there's a lot of things to overcome. I don't think Micronics will be the Creality of SLS, not yet atleast - but we're getting there eventually. I'm not super excited with the print QUALITY of finished parts from the Micronics, but im sure the strength is much better than FDM. Hopefully we can see cheap nylon SLS printers by the end of 2030, since the inevitable competition is good for us consumers.
I'd like to do a print quality comparison video at some point, but I agree. This isn't going to be in most people's homes, but a lot of serious printers will level up with this. The future is bright for 3D printing.
Thanks for ordering a sample part! Sorry if the quality isn't as good as you may have hoped. We are still in the process of dialing in our process parameters and we were a bit overwhelmed by all the online orders rushing in. Just shoot us a message and we would be happy to get your parts re-printed and shipped free of charge 😊😊
When they supply Inconel, Haynes, or at the least AlSi10Mg. Give me a call! This is too much post processing and PPE requirements for plastic parts.
That's fair
Pretty cool, I thought it was for metal printing. Wasn’t expecting nylon and tpu.
Both are extremely interesting to me. 👀
Great video, very informative.
Thanks! Hopefully I can make more on this machine soon.
Sold-out since 1st announced. Was it available at any point?
Not yet, it's aiming for crowd finding and had only been sent to locals from what I've seen in the discord. Should launch June/July.
@MiddletonMade3D ah ok. Thank you, appreciate the response. Great vid.
Thank you! I appreciate it!
Just looked them up and they uploaded a video on YT a little over a week ago. Guy claims they will release in "a few months". I'm excited to see these in consumer hands.
Exactly my thoughts. I'm very curious and excited.
Finally someone talks about it, I love this so much
Right?! I can't believe no one's been talking about this.
@@MiddletonMade3D I think a lot of people immediately disregarded it as a rugpull because of the general tone of the announcement video and lack of build up to it. I really hope it isn't though, this could be a crazy step forward in home manufacturing
I hope that's not true, but there definitely is a lot of skepticism. The cost gap is pretty significant.
I can't wait hopefully I'll be able to get my own before laws make it so you can't
The laws will never be able to abolish our ability to make whatever we want.
I really hope it's real. Cause I'm buying two! Take my money! 😂
I'm so ready
Formlabs is the entry point prosumer sls toy maker . look up brands like: 3D Systems, EOS, Renishaw, LAR Technologies, Concept Laser Machines , then Sinterit and Formlabs.
I wont bother people here with really high specs SLS printers as it is NASA budget , but above companies have machines more precise , faster and more robust than Sinterit and Formlabs put together - just the fact they come with 5 year warranty or 10 should be a benchy ?
I think the Formlabs machines are able to create some really incredible things. It really comes down to the abilities of the software that are tied to them. When will be be able to do shelled parts with or without infill and be able to place a drain port in SLS? The optimization they've done in the slicer with Micronics, using UE5 is a big step up. If all of these companies could put their heads together, it would really be something groundbreaking for the industry, not just one company.
Im not sure why, but something feels a bit off about this. I dont trust this launch.
I'm skeptical, hopefully, and excited. The jump in price does indeed warrant some skepticism, but hopefully expectations are met.
@@MiddletonMade3D 3k seems way to low with no stepping stones to it. I also don't like Kickstarter. I want this to be true, but I'm not hoping on the hypetrain. I hope they seed printers out to reviewers soon.
Crowdfunding is always sketchy to me. They seem at least genuine and showing a working model and not some BS like some of those diving apparatuses. Time will tell!
@@MiddletonMade3D I like how peopoly did the magneto x release. I got mine in and it's great. More companies should do it like that.
How did they structure theirs?
i assume that because of the leyers it will be a lot stronger i wonder how stronger
From other SLS prints I have at home, they're pretty damn strong. Hard to quantify without a test rig, but I'm sure the numbers are out there.
SLS prints are as strong as their injection molded or cast equivalent but are cheaper to produce. The industry has been using SLS printing for years already, but you don't see it because it's all internal parts like gears.
It's far more common than people think!
I'm guessing SLS printers can't print colors, at least the ones I've seen on youtube have all printed gray parts.
They print a raw color and then you can dye it. Somewhat limited since raw is a middle grey.
Dude they should pay you for this video. So good.
Shiiiiit, where's the sorted line? Lmao.
While the printer is reasonably priced for a SLS printer at 3 grand, it might be a commodity for only a few select wealthy individuals and businesses, considering the powder you have to buy to use it costs more than 200 bucks per 5 liter of it. I hope they have plans to sell the powder in smaller quantities, especially considering Micronics quotes the powder at being priced at 88 bucks per Kg but sells it by volume and not by mass.
That's a barrier I could have expanded upon further. Materials are costly in general and for them to sell less skus, they'll sell in a moderate volume. For not needing supports, we may actually get a little more out of the material mass than with fdm.
@@MiddletonMade3D The powder is listed as having 0.47Kg\L density, which would give you aprox. 2.33 Kg of it per 5.3l bottle. Assuming you can get more prints compared to the same quantity of filament or resin, then it could be argued to be reasonably priced. Of course, we'll only know about it once consumers purchase one and do some sort of long term review.
I think once it's out, we'll know more. It's hard to go off of a single source of info and it educated guesses.
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Lemme get the Advil 😘
What I do not understand how this differs from resin printing and couldn't one so the same thing with resin and a laser? It looks like a cool technology though
Sorta. There's a chamber heater that keeps the material right below it's melting point and the mechanics of repowering require different hardware to accomplish incremental layers.
i wish i had 3 grand for this
Same. My credit card will be burdened for a short while. Lol
Oh cool now make a gun with it!
That's the plan!
@@MiddletonMade3DA Nerf blaster, obviously!
Just cosplay props that happen to work!