NELC.Cleethorpes metal Detecting Ban and how Dangerous its going to be for members of the public
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Just looked at the crown estates map of the uk, and royal permission is given to the common people to be ableto detect in this area. Have the council got rights over the Crown estate?
Hi Steve.thers a section that stats that the 3rd party running that certain patch of land can inforce stuff like this
Fully agree with you Kieth. Although I don't live in Lincolnshire I travel to cleathorpes regularly to detect as it's my nearest beach and a good day out for fish and chips. When the ban is in place I'm afraid I won't be coming again and will visit other beaches further afield that I can detect on. The local council certainly know how to draw in visitors to the area to boost the local economy!! As you say, what's the difference of a detectorist digging a hole (usually beyond the shore line) and someone digging on the beach to entertain the kids? This also raises the question of the council having control of the beach beyond the high tide line. My understanding is this is crown land and beyond thier durasriction. The way they came to the decision is questionable too with the vote not being fully in favour of a ban, but the council going against the outcome and imposing a ban anyhow. Its a sad state of affairs mate and such a shame they have chosen to go down this route.
Keep safe pal, cheers.
Thats nelc for you and your totally right mate business down ther struggle through off session and relay on hoilday makers and people visiting the beach in session,and all that council do is drive people away,its already got a name in the press as worse seaside
Fight for your rights to detect, do not ever let them take your rights away for spurious reasons. Solidarity with you and your fellow detectorists in North East Lincolnshire. I hope other detectorist groups around the country help with your fight because it could happen to them.
I can see this been just the start of it.other councils will follow.before you know it will be land to
Let's hope they see sense and withdraw the ban. They should be keeping themselves busy with more important issues.
I agree mate thers far more important stuff to be getting on with,nelc are under alot of pressure over this hopefully they will see sense
Totally agree ,I have found countless sharp objects,found a wine bottle neck last week ,detector picked up the foil on neck ,jobs worths
Lets just keep the pressure on the council,ther not liking it at all they want even respond to my emails now telegraph phoned me today and said ther really please with the response they have had from my interview with them
They like sending them environmental officer pspos round to come fining you for breathing fresh air in Cleethorpes nowadays,ive had is whilst fishing
I know mate, it's ridiculous same guy did a 80 odd year old lady 150 quid for chucking a fag but on the floor what's this world coming to
I might be wrong, but isn't the sand/beach area crown land and we have permission to detect without a certificate unlike in the past.
That's very correct mate,but nelc have different ideas so now you have to apply for a permit every time you go and it's limited to where you can go on ther plus ther enforcement officers are protroling the area all the time
So let me get this right, I can go down the beach with a bucket and spade, dig as many holes as I like without filling them in and thats fine as long as I don’t have a metal detector with me! Surely the lunatics at the council realise how mental that is?
Non of it makes any sense Daniel,but what doe's make sence that comes out the torry mp/councils mouths
Good blog well said
Ty Steve
100% agree with you i was with the group who went on Saturday and I pulled out tent pegs screws sharp metal. It’s a complete joke they can’t charge you so they ban it
Cheers Kris.stuff have pulled up over the years of ther is unbelievable.im from scartho and want be voting for Ron come elections
@@lincolnshireshistory6877 same here for both 😁
Respect to you Keith for your stand against the council and shouting out for detecting on that beach . I must admit I'm confused here though ! Either that stretch of beach IS an SSSI or it ISN'T ! . Seems pretty clear to me where both parties stand here and surely there must be in the Land Registry where EXACTLY SSSI's are ? Boundaries etc .
You made excellent point here , not only about the good work we do clearing rubbish/sharp objects , but also the time honoured tradition of children digging holes on beaches making sand pies etc ( and so they should ! ) .
Surely the key here is wether the SSSI north of the beach , covers all the way to the marsh area to the south ? . It just has to be in writing somewhere ?
Well done mate with your efforts here . I hope you get some support locally .
If info is found that the area you work is NOT an SSSI , a mass detection should be organised and I for one would travel from Notts to support it !
Ty mate.i never relley bothered with cleethorpes beach till recently.with me having a good 6000 acras of land and other beaches i more focus on.but its the principle of it.i got friends that love to go on ther and its always been allowed.somthing i didnt mention in video i was approached by council last week and he said beach safety buggy been stuck in sand twice this year and one was a detectorist hole and other bait digger.so i think that this as triggered this and council just found a loop hole in the system.ty for your support its much appreciated
@@lincolnshireshistory6877 you are bang on when you say it's the principle I totally agree. And regarding the buggy getting stuck .... Specsavers springs to mind ! You can see baitdiggers work from hundreds of yards away as well you know . And how the hell do you get stuck in a hole left by a detectorist ???? Admittedly there should be no hole , but I don't believe that you can get a buggy stuck in a single hole ! . I repeat though mate . . . . It's either SSSI or it's not and if it's not , they have no power to do so . Please keep us posted and let me know if I can assist in any way .
Just another point here ..... If the council do win and it's a complete ban , with it still being a public accessable area , we are still allowed to be on there with a metal detector , as long as we don't dig ! Just like on a public footpath on private land . As long as you don't disturb the soil/sand , you can swing a detector till your decking arm drops off and nobody can stop you.
What's the point ? I hear you say ...... Can you imagine 50 Detectorists swinging on there but not digging ? They wouldn't have a clue we were in our rights to do that ..... as long as we didn't dig and it would freak them out !!! 😆👍
Iv'e only detected once at cleethopes but i'm up for an ILLEGAL mass detection, good idea.
Laik 45
Good points, well done Keith.
Thanks Bill
hi keith,i was on the beach last week and the amount of people who actually agreed with what your saying, also a salmon farm is being planned and the cleaning not sure what they use backs up some of your comments ,the council should know the real issues of cleethorpes the locals can show them if not aware ,shame this area should be open to all, i enjoy detecting good for my mental health and really ive never seen detectorists being a problem on the beach, i avoid the ones that are a problem not a good advert for cleethorpes your channel highlights lincolnshire off a treat, much better than the council are portraying it, they want to have a walk around cleethorpes and its problems, im sure they have more serious matters to attend to, if owt they should encourage detectorists the amount of crap yer take off the beach responsibly for free its a no brainer tbh
Hi Sam,they actually had a peaceful protest down ther yesterday regarding them plans for the salmon farm.its not good for cleethorpes atm,they seem to be in the papers every day for all different reasons,and getting voted the worse seaside,you think the council would pull ther finger out and try and sort things out better.cant wait for upcoming elections
@@lincolnshireshistory6877 so much potential its a shame ,they want to have a look at brid it was well run down ,but now so much better and with the increased holiday trade should be able to improve further,cleethorpes main advantage is motorway nearly all the way in