You said it so perfectly: Neptune square mars in synastry, one is being too passive and the other crossing over the others' borders. I had this with a guy, I was the mars, he was the neptune. I definitely saw him as not taking any action to pursue me or take things further like I wanted. And I can now see, in retrospect, how I was infringing upon his personal boundaries. So sport on and accurate!
Your description are amazing. Thank you! I've got Neptune on MC square my Mars in Pisces. I have lived all my childhood with my boundaries being penetrated by my mother and father too. I only realised in my late 30's that I need to put some boundaries so people will not exhaust me, use me etc. It is very hard for me but I am learning to protect myself as much as I can.
Thank you Veerle! I find all your videos super helpful. We have this mars Neptune going on now and it’s also opposite my natal Neptune! 🙈 lol. Love and blessings 💜
Good stuff, Veerie! As a fellow astrologer I enjoy very much your objectively subjective translation of this language. No doubt in my mind yours is the most understandable and useful, non-superstitious description of how mars/neptune works in real life. Also patience can be a detriment as well as learning to dance and view experience as open-ended and not get lost in fear and helplessness. Excellent, friend. Subscribing and so glad I came across your vids. Thank you! ooox ~
Great info! I probably need to take boundaries more seriously. I’ve got the conjunction in 4th in Sag. I can be a doormat and I’ve been in a lot of friendships and family relationships that were unhealthy and now I choose to spend most of my time alone. Also got 1st house Moon (Virgo) square Mars so I get my feeling hurt too easily. And then because I don’t like to make a fuss I don’t tell the other that they hurt me. ... glad I found your videos. .. I like your advice to stand up for others as a lesson to learn to stand up for yourself :)
Man, I understand you. My Mars is squaring with neptune. I learned to use the lies that this squaring provides to dodge the excessive favors of my friends. Things are worse because I still have Venus, Mars in libra and both in house 6! One way or another, in time, we learn to stand up for ourselves.
Thank you, you explained this very well. I have this conjunction in my 10th house, my moon is also in the 10th and I've always had an issue with people taking advantage of me. I give more than I should, I would give the last dollar in my pocket if I felt someone needed it more than me.
hello :) When I saw the movie I know that I have to share my impressions. I have a natal chart in trine between mars in the 8th house and Neptune in 1th house. In 13 April 2009, just started up by the transit of Neptune that is in opposition to natal Mars in 8th house. Suddenly about 26.04.2009 (I can not remember for sure was a Saturday) I am going from college after classes met on the tram someone who just finished law started talking and gave me notes. It was a man and not knowing it we got together and had a nice afternoon just flirting. He obviously wanted something more but nothing happened. Then I was like electrified. Notes after some time, I sent him traditional post even though in the same city we live. He gave me a card but .. never again we met. Sometimes I like to fly :)
So true, I have Neptune conjuct Mars (both Sag) in Scorpio ruled 7th and I'm learning now about boundaries with my partners, I always have been the facilitator. It's great you mention all those positive manifestations of this aspect. And I do practice Kung Fu! :) Thank you!
Neptune and Mars...two planets that hardly understand each other but once the dance begins between those two, a little bit of magic starts..... Neptune Mars aspect in natal chart, transit and synastry
I have the trine almost exact -0.20 minutes, in Air signs. Mars is in the 12th house, the Piscean house. Mars is in a grand cross. And I am a Pisces Ascendant. Neptune is my 2nd dominate, after Mercury which is really strong. Both Neptune and Mars are sextile Midheaven. Mars is hammered with hard aspects (Pluto, Saturn), Neptune is the only planet it gets along with, and its a dominate. Neptune is in Libra and I would say that this gives it structure similar to Moon trine Neptune, albeit a passive quality. Neptune is always revealed through the action of Mars, for example in artwork. I never pursued athletics but I could fill the net with goals game after game because I was such a deceptive player, or so I was told. At 13 years old I was drafted 3rd to last in a field of 50, at year end had won the scoring title, the championship and MVP. I always figured this was my grand cross (the coach had pissed me off and I was in perpetual war mode) but I now understand the Mars-Neptune connection. I never liked dancing and the idea of drama school or acting was was always repulsive. I wrote music for fun. I could not write angry, nasty, aggressive music. Punk, rap, grunge, hard rock, electronic pop noise, forget it. Neptune would not allow it. What Neptune does, through the action of Mars, is produce beautiful rhythm and phrasing, pretty, sensitive, sensuous, pleasing. I had a lifetime of deception, hidden enemies etc. But I could always recognize deception in an instant. What surprised me was how slow others were to realize that I knew, so I always ended up deceiving them, typically without them knowing or realizing it. Its like the attributes of the Mars-Neptune connection are intrinsic no matter how you slice it. Despite a strong Neptune in the 7th house I had a fantastic marriage (she has passed on). She was a Pisces, with Mars in the 12th house too. We had Sun signs and Asc signs in inverse relationship. Try and figure that one out! Confidence was often a problem but I never played victim, and if I was then the tension of the grand cross wouldn't let me be passive about it. Confidence is a deception issue. Its the fog of Neptune clouding the will. Once past the deception the confidence issue vanishes. Practice helps. Just about everything in my life has dissolved but inspiration remains very high. I also have Moon in the 12th house. For all of that I am not psychic but in youth I could actually visualize the imagination in real time, could switch back and forth at will. The academics were horrified, convinced I was an addict (I hated drugs), were committed to shut it down and prescribed enforced psychiatry. I wouldn't call it escapism, I would call it an ability. All meds seem to make me sick, for example statins have been seriously debilitating and I finally wised up and stopped them. I don't like just a drink or two. I tend to binge, but have always practiced many months of sobriety, happily. So much more but ... hope that gives you an idea of what Neptune can be like.
I have Mars( 10th H ) Square Neptune/Venus/Moon ( 1st H ) and Pluto ( 11th H ) Square Sun ( 2nd H ). My father literally lay in bed as my mother stomped on my 8 year old body screaming all the while that she hated me. I don't think any event could describe these aspects better than what I posted above. Sorry to offend anyone with what I posted as it is not intended to offend but rather to illustrate the Mars/Neptune Square in my personal Chart. I am sure there are others who had had far worse events in their lives so everything is in perspective. Setting boundaries with everyone has been a life long journey for Moon/Venus/Neptune conjunction in the 1st H. Good luck to all who have the challenging aspect between Mars and Neptune. It is not for the faint of heart!
Hi Veerle! I have Mars in Scorpio in the 12th house and 'Mars sextile Neptune in Capricorn' as well as "Mars sextile Uranus in Capricorn" in my natal chart. I completely understand the idea of lack of boundaries. I hate going into places like subway carts, I find it overwhelming. I have also had some frightening encounters with the paranormal since childhood. I find that I am overly empathetic/sensitive and sometimes psychic for lack of a better word. I tend to attract Pisces Sun men and I often wonder if all this Neptunian energy might be the reason. What do you think might be the effect of having these energies ?
Beccalotte1021 Just that you're aware of it, is a start. In itself being open and sensitive is not a bad thing and therefore doesn't have to have a bad effect. It only should be a flag coming up in your head if you sense that people are wanting to cross your boundaries. Being rational, feet on the ground, going out in nature, good food, sports, having a good sense of humour, being here etc...can be helpful for you.
Interesting combination for sure. I checked and my partner has this sextiling. People walk all over him and he rarely stands up for himself, so it's a very difficult combo. No boundaries what-so-ever...everyone he comes in contact with, to his detriment. Appreciate the advice as to how to work with this aspect.
So true about Mars Neptune people wanting to help others but I love the way you said, it's good to help, "Give people a hand, but don't give them an ARM" - very funny and absolutely on the mark!
I have Scorpio Mars conjunct with Neptune in the 1st house. Also have Venus in Scorpio in 1st near ascendant. Although I have a late Libra rising with Sun and Mercury in Libra in 12th house
Hi, Veerle, love what u do with these videos, I would love to hear ur opinion: I have a Mars conjunction with Neptune in Capricorn in 5th house, natally. Do you think exalted Mars here helps with the situation ?
A very good Mars that wants to work hard to make your visions, creativity and inspiration become real. Lots of imagination, a big heart and a talent to create and actively do something with that inspiration. Also good for sports because you know how to be in the flow.
Thank you so much for this video. I Jane a Mars in Taurus in the 9th house opposing Neptune in Scorpio in the 2nd house (at 26 degrees) forming a T-square with Jupiter in Leo in the 11th. I started a green living card business and submitted to Whole Foods market. I was initially accepted and then someone in the line of command changed their minds. It was devastating. I can see the humility and deception for sure and also learning to let go of the results. I think the martial arts recommendation was great. I do yoga and I find that if I don't do it every other day, I feel off and edgy. Do you also recommend yoga? Or tai chi? Qi Gong? Also wondering about the karma behind this aspect. It's not fun!!! I have the opposition and my sister (both of us having opposite north nodes, mine in Aries) has the square. Help! Not easy at all. Sigh
hey i have mars and neptune conjunct 3deg and 5* in capricorn and i have aries sun with venus trine to mars in second house taurus what do u think about my career and relationship tc
yes!!!! I need to go with the rhythm so cool! I do tai chi and dance a lot!!!!!! mars Leo 10th / neptune Scorpio 2nd house - need to balance boundaries & self worth talk about passionate & dreamy! Virgo/ Pisces axis!
I have a Gemini Mars in 12th opposed my Sag. Neptune 6th. Both are square my chart ruler, Mercury in Virgo in the 4th house. I have a conjunction between the Sun and Saturn in my 3rd house in Leo though. Both planets trine Neptune. I am grateful for that otherwise I think I would be dead by now. Seriously. I have had a lot of close calls with scary men. I have also had a lot of people take advantage of me financially. I had a strong sense of self and clear purpose of will until my adult years. It should be the opposite- you get stronger in who you are and in your desires as you get older, right? No. Not in my case. I feel so lost and I have no energy- constant lethargy though my Dr says nothing is wrong. I am so far from the person I saw myself becoming AND I have lost my passion got the things I once loved.
Hello Veerle! This Neptune business is embarrassing. Mars-Neptune 6° in radix chart separating. Thought it had worked out, diminished, died in chart. It hasn't. Most of the failings were attributed to the other planets. Now it looks like they fit into this compartment........hot under collar feeling now. Dissatisfaction with reality a real bone of contention- things could/should be better. Also a type of inertia which is most hated. Mars in Aries- a sign which hates procrastination. This is insidious. BTW: watching videos in internet- Donald Trump is prime example of Neptune without a handbrake. Greetings!
Neptune and Mars...two planets that hardly understand each other but once the dance begins between those two, a little bit of magic starts..... Neptune Mars aspect in natal chart, transit and synastry
31:44 Synastry
Thanks
You said it so perfectly: Neptune square mars in synastry, one is being too passive and the other crossing over the others' borders. I had this with a guy, I was the mars, he was the neptune. I definitely saw him as not taking any action to pursue me or take things further like I wanted. And I can now see, in retrospect, how I was infringing upon his personal boundaries. So sport on and accurate!
Synastry @31:47
Your description are amazing. Thank you! I've got Neptune on MC square my Mars in Pisces. I have lived all my childhood with my boundaries being penetrated by my mother and father too. I only realised in my late 30's that I need to put some boundaries so people will not exhaust me, use me etc. It is very hard for me but I am learning to protect myself as much as I can.
Thank you so much Veerle, I love your videos - very helpful and rare down to earth astrology input!! 🥰✨🙏
Thank you Veerle! I find all your videos super helpful. We have this mars Neptune going on now and it’s also opposite my natal Neptune! 🙈 lol. Love and blessings 💜
Good stuff, Veerie! As a fellow astrologer I enjoy very much your objectively subjective translation of this language. No doubt in my mind yours is the most understandable and useful, non-superstitious description of how mars/neptune works in real life. Also patience can be a detriment as well as learning to dance and view experience as open-ended and not get lost in fear and helplessness. Excellent, friend. Subscribing and so glad I came across your vids. Thank you! ooox ~
Great info! I probably need to take boundaries more seriously. I’ve got the conjunction in 4th in Sag. I can be a doormat and I’ve been in a lot of friendships and family relationships that were unhealthy and now I choose to spend most of my time alone. Also got 1st house Moon (Virgo) square Mars so I get my feeling hurt too easily. And then because I don’t like to make a fuss I don’t tell the other that they hurt me. ... glad I found your videos. .. I like your advice to stand up for others as a lesson to learn to stand up for yourself :)
Man, I understand you. My Mars is squaring with neptune. I learned to use the lies that this squaring provides to dodge the excessive favors of my friends. Things are worse because I still have Venus, Mars in libra and both in house 6! One way or another, in time, we learn to stand up for ourselves.
Thank you, you explained this very well. I have this conjunction in my 10th house, my moon is also in the 10th and I've always had an issue with people taking advantage of me. I give more than I should, I would give the last dollar in my pocket if I felt someone needed it more than me.
hello :)
When I saw the movie I know that I have to share my impressions.
I have a natal chart in trine between mars in the 8th house and Neptune in 1th house.
In 13 April 2009, just started up by the transit of Neptune that is in opposition to natal Mars in 8th house.
Suddenly about 26.04.2009 (I can not remember for sure was a Saturday) I am
going from college after classes met on the tram someone who just finished law started talking and gave me notes.
It was a man and not knowing it we got together and had a nice afternoon just flirting.
He obviously wanted something more but nothing happened.
Then I was like electrified.
Notes after some time, I sent him traditional post even though in the same city we live.
He gave me a card but .. never again we met.
Sometimes I like to fly :)
So true, I have Neptune conjuct Mars (both Sag) in Scorpio ruled 7th and I'm learning now about boundaries with my partners, I always have been the facilitator. It's great you mention all those positive manifestations of this aspect. And I do practice Kung Fu! :) Thank you!
Thank you Veerle! Very good info.
Neptune and Mars...two planets that hardly understand each other but once the dance begins between those two, a little bit of magic starts.....
Neptune Mars aspect in natal chart, transit and synastry
I have the trine almost exact -0.20 minutes, in Air signs. Mars is in the 12th house, the Piscean house. Mars is in a grand cross. And I am a Pisces Ascendant. Neptune is my 2nd dominate, after Mercury which is really strong. Both Neptune and Mars are sextile Midheaven. Mars is hammered with hard aspects (Pluto, Saturn), Neptune is the only planet it gets along with, and its a dominate. Neptune is in Libra and I would say that this gives it structure similar to Moon trine Neptune, albeit a passive quality. Neptune is always revealed through the action of Mars, for example in artwork. I never pursued athletics but I could fill the net with goals game after game because I was such a deceptive player, or so I was told. At 13 years old I was drafted 3rd to last in a field of 50, at year end had won the scoring title, the championship and MVP. I always figured this was my grand cross (the coach had pissed me off and I was in perpetual war mode) but I now understand the Mars-Neptune connection. I never liked dancing and the idea of drama school or acting was was always repulsive. I wrote music for fun. I could not write angry, nasty, aggressive music. Punk, rap, grunge, hard rock, electronic pop noise, forget it. Neptune would not allow it. What Neptune does, through the action of Mars, is produce beautiful rhythm and phrasing, pretty, sensitive, sensuous, pleasing. I had a lifetime of deception, hidden enemies etc. But I could always recognize deception in an instant. What surprised me was how slow others were to realize that I knew, so I always ended up deceiving them, typically without them knowing or realizing it. Its like the attributes of the Mars-Neptune connection are intrinsic no matter how you slice it. Despite a strong Neptune in the 7th house I had a fantastic marriage (she has passed on). She was a Pisces, with Mars in the 12th house too. We had Sun signs and Asc signs in inverse relationship. Try and figure that one out! Confidence was often a problem but I never played victim, and if I was then the tension of the grand cross wouldn't let me be passive about it. Confidence is a deception issue. Its the fog of Neptune clouding the will. Once past the deception the confidence issue vanishes. Practice helps. Just about everything in my life has dissolved but inspiration remains very high. I also have Moon in the 12th house. For all of that I am not psychic but in youth I could actually visualize the imagination in real time, could switch back and forth at will. The academics were horrified, convinced I was an addict (I hated drugs), were committed to shut it down and prescribed enforced psychiatry. I wouldn't call it escapism, I would call it an ability. All meds seem to make me sick, for example statins have been seriously debilitating and I finally wised up and stopped them. I don't like just a drink or two. I tend to binge, but have always practiced many months of sobriety, happily. So much more but ... hope that gives you an idea of what Neptune can be like.
I have Mars( 10th H ) Square Neptune/Venus/Moon ( 1st H ) and Pluto ( 11th H ) Square Sun ( 2nd H ). My father literally lay in bed as my mother stomped on my 8 year old body screaming all the while that she hated me.
I don't think any event could describe these aspects better than what I posted above.
Sorry to offend anyone with what I posted as it is not intended to offend but rather to illustrate the Mars/Neptune Square in my personal Chart. I am sure there are others who had had far worse events in their lives so everything is in perspective.
Setting boundaries with everyone has been a life long journey for Moon/Venus/Neptune conjunction in the 1st H.
Good luck to all who have the challenging aspect between Mars and Neptune. It is not for the faint of heart!
Hi Veerle! I have Mars in Scorpio in the 12th house and 'Mars sextile Neptune in Capricorn' as well as "Mars sextile Uranus in Capricorn" in my natal chart. I completely understand the idea of lack of boundaries. I hate going into places like subway carts, I find it overwhelming. I have also had some frightening encounters with the paranormal since childhood. I find that I am overly empathetic/sensitive and sometimes psychic for lack of a better word. I tend to attract Pisces Sun men and I often wonder if all this Neptunian energy might be the reason. What do you think might be the effect of having these energies ?
Beccalotte1021 Just that you're aware of it, is a start. In itself being open and sensitive is not a bad thing and therefore doesn't have to have a bad effect. It only should be a flag coming up in your head if you sense that people are wanting to cross your boundaries. Being rational, feet on the ground, going out in nature, good food, sports, having a good sense of humour, being here etc...can be helpful for you.
Having similar experiences with the subway and paranormal experience that was quite traumatising.
Interesting combination for sure. I checked and my partner has this sextiling. People walk all over him and he rarely stands up for himself, so it's a very difficult combo. No boundaries what-so-ever...everyone he comes in contact with, to his detriment. Appreciate the advice as to how to work with this aspect.
Does it also indicate problems with alcohol in someone's chart if Mars is weak?
So true about Mars Neptune people wanting to help others but I love the way you said, it's good to help, "Give people a hand, but don't give them an ARM" - very funny and absolutely on the mark!
I have Scorpio Mars conjunct with Neptune in the 1st house. Also have Venus in Scorpio in 1st near ascendant. Although I have a late Libra rising with Sun and Mercury in Libra in 12th house
Can u do about saturn opposite pluto? And pluto opposites asc ? Natal
I can be over assertive or under assertive are these Mars Neptune traits?
What are the differences from mars in pisces? I feel lot of similarities, but...
Really helpful advice thanks a million
Hi, Veerle,
love what u do with these videos, I would love to hear ur opinion: I have a Mars conjunction with Neptune in Capricorn in 5th house, natally. Do you think exalted Mars here helps with the situation ?
A very good Mars that wants to work hard to make your visions, creativity and inspiration become real. Lots of imagination, a big heart and a talent to create and actively do something with that inspiration. Also good for sports because you know how to be in the flow.
Thank you so much for this video. I Jane a Mars in Taurus in the 9th house opposing Neptune in Scorpio in the 2nd house (at 26 degrees) forming a T-square with Jupiter in Leo in the 11th. I started a green living card business and submitted to Whole Foods market. I was initially accepted and then someone in the line of command changed their minds. It was devastating.
I can see the humility and deception for sure and also learning to let go of the results.
I think the martial arts recommendation was great. I do yoga and I find that if I don't do it every other day, I feel off and edgy. Do you also recommend yoga? Or tai chi? Qi Gong?
Also wondering about the karma behind this aspect. It's not fun!!! I have the opposition and my sister (both of us having opposite north nodes, mine in Aries) has the square.
Help! Not easy at all.
Sigh
hey i have mars and neptune conjunct 3deg and 5* in capricorn and i have aries sun with venus trine to mars in second house taurus what do u think about my career and relationship tc
yes!!!! I need to go with the rhythm so cool! I do tai chi and dance a lot!!!!!!
mars Leo 10th / neptune Scorpio 2nd house - need to balance boundaries & self worth talk about passionate & dreamy! Virgo/ Pisces axis!
Very helpful.I had the conjunction in 5th house in my solar return and I'm struggling
Mars In 2nd square my Neptune in 12th and I draw creativity from physical activity and progressing onto the next
My natal. Neptune inconjunct my Natal Venus and Mars my asc and desc ruler. It sucks
good video
I have a Gemini Mars in 12th opposed my Sag. Neptune 6th. Both are square my chart ruler, Mercury in Virgo in the 4th house. I have a conjunction between the Sun and Saturn in my 3rd house in Leo though. Both planets trine Neptune. I am grateful for that otherwise I think I would be dead by now. Seriously. I have had a lot of close calls with scary men. I have also had a lot of people take advantage of me financially. I had a strong sense of self and clear purpose of will until my adult years. It should be the opposite- you get stronger in who you are and in your desires as you get older, right? No. Not in my case. I feel so lost and I have no energy- constant lethargy though my Dr says nothing is wrong. I am so far from the person I saw myself becoming AND I have lost my passion got the things I once loved.
What happens when you add in Uranus? Chaos?! 🤪🥳
I would much rather have Saturn in Aries than Mars in Capricorn...
Call me crazy but that's the gist of it.
I have Mars conjunct Neptune!
Thank you danke tak that was very helpful. I have
Neptune square Mars
Mars opposition Saturn
Saturn square Mercury
It sucks! Hahahah :)
Hello Veerle! This Neptune business is embarrassing. Mars-Neptune 6° in radix chart separating. Thought it had worked out, diminished, died in chart. It hasn't. Most of the failings were attributed to the other planets. Now it looks like they fit into this compartment........hot under collar feeling now. Dissatisfaction with reality a real bone of contention- things could/should be better. Also a type of inertia which is most hated. Mars in Aries- a sign which hates procrastination. This is insidious. BTW: watching videos in internet- Donald Trump is prime example of Neptune without a handbrake. Greetings!
Mars in Pisces in 7th
Mars semi square Neptune
I have a angular Mars and Pisces house.
Oh... and having Neptune opposite Mars only makes for DREAMIER war plans.
Think about that, people.
Neptune and Mars...two planets that hardly understand each other but once the dance begins between those two, a little bit of magic starts.....
Neptune Mars aspect in natal chart, transit and synastry