AMG vs M POWER.. 800BHP STAGE 3 BMW M3 vs STAGE 3 MERC C63 AMG
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2022
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Mercedes and AMG never been good at making fast gearboxes. Never. Yes,V8 grunt they got. But sound doesn't win races. Fine engineering does.
Bmw m3 vs RS3 vs c amg👍
@@MadeinKs. BMW wins. Better chassis, gearbox and engine.
Wait so the Benz was stock and the BMW modified
@@edwardandrade4390 do you understand the meaning of stage 3? Haven't heard of stock 800hp AMG yet,are you?
As a BMW fan, real respect for that C63! That M3 is just wow..
Just don’t understand why AMG wouldn’t TT the 6.2
The M3 had no rear seats and reducing wight is very important so that can be cheating couldn't it ?
@@kxelr8971 😂😂
@@kxelr8971 the rear seats only weigh like 30lbs if that
@@Johnathann54that seat could weight 60kg so…
M3 sleeping on the start line and still won
Facts
M3 is gutted tho from the back weight.
Hardly gutted.. just missing the back bench
@@KonigtheLegend that back bench is a lot of weight and it weighs a lot less than the AMG already
@@alex.c9524 rear seats weight not much at all
Shame the weight hurts the Merc, the M3 is rapid but that dirty sound the Merc makes is lovely. Tip top vid as always mate 👊✌😆😎
BMW is just faster car lol
The weight doesn’t effect it that much. Merc is just shit 💩💩💩
It’s cos they have a better gearbox
Yes weight is usually going to be the deciding factor, basic physics. You can develop all types of technologies & gimmicks but unless there is significant difference in spec, dead weight will ultimately decide. The BMW also has more engine work done.
Mercs are almost always heavier. 100kg additional weight is an average adult female & her 8 yr old child.
@@lllllillllllllillll BMWs are for wankers…full of cheap plastics and outdated interior designs
That was light work from the M3
Facts
STRIPPED BACK SEATS -200KG, much more job done to the engine, THIS WAS A NON LSD CAR, NOT LIKE THE C63S COUPE, more fuel consumption because the MORE agressive tune, stage 2 PLUS turbos....
Only put stage 2 PLUS turbos and meth on a C63S COUPE and you win this race.
M4's onñy win when they have more money on them
@@franciscoreyes3857 stop crying
Stock engine, a lot more weight and less traction with regular tyres the merc didn’t do too badly at all! Would love to see this race re ran with r888r or similar tyres and stripped out seats on the c63, killa content
Merc had much better traction already. And I don’t think stripping the back seats out would change much in the roll race
Bmw driver sleeping on start
@@5372john true, either way the Merc will be heavier
Slicks aren’t being warned up enough here, especially ar1’s so he’s actually worse off
bmw's engine isnt "built"
After this Jamie has got to get an e63 and a m5 head to head🔥🔥🔥 awesome video!!!
Already done!
You’re new
@@officially_gassed what about a supercharged w204 c63 Jamie I don’t recall ever seeing one of those on your channel ? I do have one you can use.
M5 wins
@@officially_gassed e63 owner was a bit slow in that race tbh. I think you gotta have the PureTuning UK on the channel
Race starts at 6:35
The sound of that AMG 👌
Fartish
@@boostkiller your shitty farts sound like that??
Fartish my ass, BMW sounds like a 400 hp car, go to sleep@@boostkiller
That AMG seem to drop on them gear changes. But both still absolute beasts. Got to love a German showdown. Mad content Jamie keep it coming and I'll keep enjoying. Big luv
Definitely something not quite right on those gear changes!
New c63 is nothing on the old school 6.2
See I'm not a fan boy of either but appreciate the love gone into both builds and the way they perform. Awesome 🤘🏽🔥
Builds are crazy dream to own any of them must admit if I had to go straight out and buy a car to perform I'm amazed at those es motor porsches unbelievable
Now ES Motors build are just next level. Them launches on them 911s are SAVAGE to say the least!
Think this is the first time I’ve seen Max in the M3 in a straight line. It’s usually sideways with the rear tyres smoking 😂😂
That BMW gear box is the real MVP in this one. Rapid changes straight back on the power curve
As always mechanical part of the car in BMW is over Mercedes!
Great job M3!
That’s some high level bimmering. I thought the AMG’s propensity to make tremendous torque would pull mid race but BMW straight 6’s are real destroyers.
especially the new ones, someone manageg to pull 1500 hp with all stock internals
As a BMW fan I have to say that sound from the C63 is just wow 🤤what a beast
You gotta love the amg sound
M3 for me every time, and that’s without taking into account it’s superior handling.
Having also owned a C63, they are beasts but not the best choice for a true driver. If you think they look and sound better than I’d say that’s a fair opinion, I just couldn’t go back to AMG knowing that every time I see an M, you’d know they had the better performing car.
what bullshit... there is more then only the C63 & M3, i'd take an S63S over an M8, an E63S over an M5,... also for me they are daily drivers so i couldn't really care if an other model is a few seconds faster. where BMW really lets me down is that horrible interior that still looks the same as a car from 1990
BMW Mpower king boy
@@Doa744 lol the s63s is a boat ⛵🤣.. we get it you prefer a merc but these are performance cars where performance is key, not interior cars otherwise save yourself some money an buy a diesel merc if you dont mind getting gapped, plus the same results happen with all bmw vs merc as per carwow videos the mercs are just a little bit slower from the factory and always have been.
@@Doa744 Of course there are more cars than those two, I was just stating my pick on the only two that featured in the video, then went on to give a general opinion on M vs AMG, having owned and driven many high performance cars.
I already said that I’d understand if people preferred the look of the inferior performing car.
E63S would need to compare against an M5 comp and I’d still choose the M5 because it’s just so much better, even as a daily driver. I don’t race round the streets as such and still really appreciate how much better M cars are to drive than AMGs as a daily. I also find Audis RS equivalents to be far worse than their M and AMG counterparts.
In terms of interior quality, I expected AMG to be better too but was pleasantly surprised to find otherwise. AMGs look like they should be better but I find them more flimsy, especially on moving parts the paddle shifters.
At the end of the day I’m glad there are people like you in the world to keep buying AMGs because it keeps M devision on their toes. If everybody switched to M and never went back then we wouldn’t get the best out of our preferred brands.
@@brucewayne2397 Exactly! I didn’t want to be so harsh about the S63 but it’s true, they really do feel like boats in comparison.
I'm a Beemer guy myself but that 130KGS can't be beat.
Wow that BMW 😱rapid or what.
Honestly I thought the Mercedes would of one.
Both great cars♥️
That was too painful for me to watch 😢😢😢😢😢. Respect to that BMW M3.
P. S AMG fanboy
Both are beasts, but 130kg difference is enough to beat the merc
Bmw remove the seats
Yep, the F80 has DCT transmission so it's more brutal when u changes the gears
@@diaaeldinezaki5248 the Merc is MCT it changes just as fast 😂 that bummer has more horsepower by some margin it's quite apparent!
Well it does not matter m3 always wins even at Carwows channel the m5 and m3 wins over c63 and e63
@@thenotorious2616 again I reiterate more power even in stock form 😂
The confident look on the bimmer driver’s face when he passed by during the second drag race.😂
This was the difference between a man who wants to win" and a man who wants to participate 💪🏾
Thought Mickys boys smoked you years ago bro
Both cars are 👌🏽 well done to both of them 💯
Love the small, quick breakdown on your thoughts on the race at the end. Sick race! Only thing I would add is the torque numbers to the stats, only if you have them of course.
Amazing content!!! Sick races and commentary
Bimmer had closer gear ratios, tire and stripped weight and both cars running same power, already knew the result that happened, the Mercedes only advantage was it has mad torque but the wider gear ratios it couldn’t catch a break but both cars are awesome.
Excuses 🤣
@@SheLuvesAiden one question. where is the bmw on the motorsports? i help you... nowhere :D
@@dzsiniusz91 Tf are you talking about Kid? BMW shits on Mercedes in Motorsports. And this Video proofs how garbage AMG is. Didnt even win a single Race lmao 🤣🤣🤣
Never really heard an S55 sound so good, I like it.
My G this video brought a big smile to my face as a bmw fan
I wanna see more of these 😍🔥
As soon as you see the result of the drag race its pretty obvious what's going to happen in the roll
I DID NOT EXPECT THIS RESULT!!!!! Congrats B.M.W and The TUNNER!!! 👏👏👏👏👏
m3 was much lighter same power with better tyres, i think everyone knew that the m3 would win this any day of the week but the merc did better than i thought
Max going in a straight line for once, you’ve changed him 🤣
Holy moly.
The way these engines raw on pull away.
Epic!
I have an M4 but mad props to the C63 , still a beast and the sound was 🔥
M3 way to represent 🔥🔥
I'm a Merc fan and I'd take a C63 over M3 but before the race began I knew the M3 was gonna take the win.. You gotta admit that an M3 at that power level is just crazy fast.
He removed his rear seats too. Weight doesn’t account for that big of a gap. The mods the 3 has helps it makes more power top end 100%. Meth injection, m5 fuel pump/injectors. You know it’s not running out of fuel in higher rpm
@@quinyboties Excuses you lost. Sell yuor Mersedes crap
@@henzo7087 😂😂 yes sir I will just stating the facts. M powarrrr hahaha
@@henzo7087 before yu get all cocky, mine c63 already has 40 000 km with 850 hp and it will do at least a 100 000 more while this bmw is fast but in 20 000 km he will be usable only if you need an anchor. Fact is, yo choose the best BMW and compare it to the best marc in the same class and the merc beats is every time. Not to speak about categories of supercars where BMW hasn't even the know how to build such cars. Mercedes has the richest racing car history and the most successful of all times and all brands, while BMW did win the DTM three times but that was in times where they raced volvos and saabs. As son as alfa and Mercedes entered they didn't win anything anymore ever.
Last and not least, take any bmy with any amount of kilometers and any model and take a merc the same category, production year and same kilometers, and the marc is worth 30% more always .
You notice the difference between you and me, as an old saying says
"Stupid people talk when they want something to say like you in this case while smart people talk when they have something to say.
you are the type of guy who comes not with a knife to a gunfight, you bring a stone
Educate yourselves young man
Hi Merc fan, love and respect from a Honda fan
Love your videos bro!!!!!!!!
Keep bringing bmw vs Mercedes
Bmw fan!!
Good runs, the M3 had the power to weight ratio advantage, good stuff
For a fully built m3 I honestly thought he would take it by a mile. If the Amg had fully built engine it wouldn’t even be a comparison. The m3 is fast but man the AMG is just a whole new level of beast with that sound. Should run again with slicks on the amg and a stripped out interior and build the engine. Still great content
Oh yeah? What’s the fully build 4.0 c63 or any amgs time? I’m talking fastest , I know beamers in low 9s
@@bman1668forged 4.2 after
But still they produce the same power and are both on stage 3 tune. You could only blame it to the weight of the Merc but still that weight could be useful. So excuses all the way. The bimmer did well there it's weight doesn't favour its power if it was not for the tyres the BMW wouldn't grip at all and be all over the place.
The car with less weight and more bhp won 🤣🤣🤣 wow
Immer schön Ausreden von den Merc-Fanboys..
Good stuff enjoy your show
Awesome content 👌🏽
F80 such a good looking car
The c63 jumped the start and still lost
Sick one Jamie let’s get it .
Smoothness of a straight 6 right there. 'M' machinery
I'm a bemmer boy but the sound from that benz man !
Stripped interior for M3 and slick tyres makes the M3 win. Without this it would be neck and neck.
In your dreams perhaps. But we´re all in the real life..
@H W You are so opinionated and rude in your comments and slam everyone else’s point of views you disagree with! What a narrow minded foul individual you are. It’s a shame you can’t appreciate a fun race between two extremely fast cars. Both owners should be very proud of their cars.
@@samanthabolt7559 It´s called reality. Try it..
I love how the guy with the c63 is all confident without any understanding of basic physics.
Same power less weigh no surprises here.
Fun watching two guys just hold on the steering wheel and do essentially nothing in the race. 🤣 enjoyed it none the less.
Beemer gang all the way 🙌🏻🔥
The BMW is more modded u had the amg modded as much as the bmw it would Kane it easy
no matter what happen,BMW always in my heart ❤🔥
That M3 is mighty! And loving the oled tails:)
the power of both cars wow, and the mercedes v8 growl never gets old!
I'm neutral as an Audi fan, but u gotta say that merc although it lost, can go straight from there on holiday with the family. Can't say the same for the M..
The M driver simply reinstalls the back seat and goes on vacation with the family
I love my bm's even though I own an Audi but it's a watch this space kinda thing but damn the sound of that merc is pure filth! It would be interesting if the merc went on semi's and stripped but I think the m3 would still pull I back but still more of a closer race. Epic setup!!!
Max, I had a little tinker of a race with you recently on the motorway off Birmingham in my RS3 white one and you just had it mapped then fair play mate! Top lad
Weekly dose of epic battles!
The sound of that M3 is god tier
Boring sound
Raspy pops and bangs can’t beat it
@@mistrzflirting3328 amg dead 🪦
@@mistrzflirting3328 Ya mum makes a boring sound
"God" tier? That's a bit extreme
It's both impressive and disappointing how the engineering of modern German cars manages to take all the skill and excitement out of controlling all that power.
Gassed gang notis ❤️🤝
Come on BMW all day every day 🙌🏾 😅👌🏾. Thanks for another great video Jamie. 👌🏾
Clearly the amg engine is stock and heavier than the bmw 😏 AMG is better and will always be better ✌🏿
As someone who's just smoked both a Porsche and and a c63 in ny heavy v8 4.4l 6 series. They are in fact not.
I love youtube comments, people must have missed the part where the M3 is stripped out, running semi slicks and a fully forged engine lol. Man in the merc is full bolt on with road tyres. Imagine spending all that to forge the engine, run semi slicks and strip the car out to be 0.3secs faster 100-200. I'm dead lol.
I mean thats exactly how it works. If the c63 spent the same, it may not have lost. You cant overly look into the times, as it's over this specific distance. The gap would of increased had they carried on.
So basically you're saying if the merc was fully built with same 800bhp it would have made difference?? And even with stripped out sits and better tires it wouldn't made much a difference mercs are generally heavier than bmw.
Holy hell that M3 is blazin fast!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
I have a C63S and yeah it's the gear changes on the upshifts where you really feel it fall behind. It just doesn't get up through the gears as fluidly as you would like. I still love my car, and the way it sounds makes up for everything else, but going from 3 to 4 you do feel it struggle to keep pace.
I really doubt if they're both running 800hp.
Seems more like 750hp vs 850hp.
Either that or the m3 has got 200NM more torque.
A measly 100kg will not make that much of a difference at these powers levels.
Merc sounds way better though
I really enjoyed this battle!
M3 is lighter better power to weight
You'd be surprised, I think this was a case of 130kg and semi slicks
Get the man some tissues.
@@aaron_r6611 If only we could dyno them both on the same day on the same dyno.
Could be a combination of things.
Get DMO and his E63s against an M5 on og battles 🔥🔥
I just love the sound of that AMG, it is just awesome.
ANG? Aha
@@hw6639 3 letters and I get it wrong 😟
I've only driven Bimmer's but that AMG was sick. Couldn't handle the M Power but made a good showing. That gap on the last race though, whew.
The last years BMW is completely outclassing amg
jusf because they're beaten in a straight line doesn't mean they're being out classes, did you not know AMG have set records bmw haven't beaten yet in the nurburgring? bmw fell off with their designs lmao
Question for the m3, why not get an m4 if youre gonna strip it out? No point lugging 2 extra doors around if youre gonna have no seats
Because some people don't know other BMW cars exist lmao.
M3 looks much better than the m4
@@OrangeTash yep agree 👍
@@OrangeTash 100%
@@OrangeTash agree!
M town baby ! Wicked Race Jamie can’t wait to see your 911 Turbo S ES1xxxxx
Gone on max👌
Great race with same tyres and similar weight would of been much closer, fair play to the m3 😀
How about same 4liter and 8 cylinder? Bigger engine would easily make more power.
@@user-ke1qj7up3e in this case were both running 800bhp so doesn't matter if its got 8 or 6 cylinders good race though 😀
Weight is problem of Mercedes always, also gear box.
Beim Zwischensprint spielen Reifen und 130 Kilo kaum noch eine Rolle..
@@hw6639 286 pounds is a huge difference and so are the tires
///M POWER ALWAYS 👌🏽💪🏽💥
I’ve had both similar power and the m3 just feels so much lighter . Amgs are just proper sledge hammers
I'm definitely an amg fan but even I saw this coming😂 less drivetrain loss in the M3 (dct is much better then MB's auto) and lighter, good to see they actually acknowledge the M3 is the c63's rival
The built motor and the weight difference helped the BMW. If c63 had same setup would be a different race.
Built motor was built to handle the power. If the merc was built and still making 800 bhp, youd have the same results. About the weight, thats something mercs cant really do much about since they come factory heavy. Rear seat delete saves you maybe 10 LBS at most lol. Thats not even 5 kilos ive weighed these seats
@@evtpr3dat0rx62 the prob with the merc is the old 7 speed, the newer 9 speed is much better and they have to much Torque. Have to get bigger turbos to not push so much torque that the clutch keeps slipping, or of course a top clutch. The merc is hevay .because quality and comfourt have their price. My friend has a m3 csl, dear lord, ou cant have a normal conversation in that car. Squeaky like my tubby ducky
the M3 sounded like my old broken vacuum cleaner
Top ranking got a spanking Jamie,big respect to both drivers and their cars all the same,but that m3 had that on smash,pulling gaps like that,excellent watch bro...
@Officially Gassed - OG
Who would you say is the best bmw tuner? HLC, NVM or someone else?
As a bimmer , that c63 is amazing , love how he starts first and still loses by multiple car gaps.
Just wanted to let you know that I always have to skip the preview, because the preview correctly (most of the time) reveals the faster car. Is it possible to edit in such a way where it doesn't show one car pulling away? Great vids otherwise!
Same here👍🏾
that little differences can make a big change in a real race in the track ....
Something good to view on a Sunday
I will be a Beamer gang for the rest of my life after watching this video ☝🏽❤️🔥
M5 won E 63 S too on this channel. Same hp
Cringe
M power all the way that’s all I’m saying
Mad love!
Damn... They are my favorites cars
Its amazing how much power that merc engine makes with such little mods... the BMW you have to do so much more 🤯
Its amazing how they both running same power but m3 took the win m3 #king💯 👑
V8 base...
@@fezans5180 fully built engine helps 😂. Would be interesting to see the difference in how much each owner spent on mods
@@fezans5180 Bmw is with better all around tires and half the interior is missing I would still prefer the amg in his original condition. And I know for a fact the amg is gonna be more reliable in long term scenario so no! in this scenario amg #king.
BMW Mpower king
Imagine if the merc was also stripped with same tyres the race would’ve been insanely close
Nope. The c63 jumped the start and still lost..
The merc got of the line first each time so tyres wouldn't change much. Extra weight and a slower gearbox is why it lost. BMW gapped it
@H W ‘Jumped the start’!!.. No, the C63 reacted quicker.
@@samanthabolt7559 And what´s your point. Merc startet earlier but the bimmer is quicker..
@@hw6639 At what point did I disagree that the M3 was quicker?
Thank you for this great race . This channel is awesome and got amazing contents . Keep it up .
Missing seats does not really change anything .
And almost similar power . Both are great cars but BMW is something different .
Am i right 😊??
Both amazing cars i love it
Not sure this was a fair race. Bimmer had slicks and a fully forged engine. Great content but I’d take the Merc any day.
AMG definitely drops slight power through gear changes!
What?
This is like ordering gaparonni pizza with a cup of gapachino at the OG battle restaurant….nice one Jamie!
Father has a 1940 Chevy coupe delux with an original frame that was extended 3inches built by hendrix motor sports and few other big names. Dale Earnhardt drove it years back. Its 850hp and nitrous and runs on 102. The rear tires are 2ft wide and the blower on the motor sticks 2ft above the hood. Its a weapon. Be right up the top that leader board with that Chevy nova
BMW has always been the best in performance against merc ✅
track says otherwise
Lies!
I honestly thought the AMG would win 🤷♂️
This looks like a stock charge cooler at this power or is it just a "one short pull at a time" type of car?