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  • @MrChris20912
    @MrChris20912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    I really shouldn't watch these videos just before going to bed, now my brain is popping and fizzing with ideas!

    • @benniedonald
      @benniedonald 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It helps me to understand many things I have been puzzling over for years. Love it

    • @ghostmandeak7305
      @ghostmandeak7305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I get that alot mate hahahahaha killer init pal

    • @semhouben6300
      @semhouben6300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Same lol. I watch them for a project I’ve in mind, but every video that I watch gives me more ideas and questions 😂

    • @muhammadmubeenislam
      @muhammadmubeenislam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same goes with me 😅

    • @ricky4673
      @ricky4673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, this man has ruined my sleep more then I can count.

  • @spoofyoriginal
    @spoofyoriginal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ive seen most of the DYI engineering shows on youtube. But this guy is all you need!

  • @ebikeliverystable
    @ebikeliverystable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The carbon from burnt corn cobs were once being observed for storing natural gas/hydrogen. Compressed in to pucks and stacked in the pressurized vessel the volume was increased by around 40%.

  • @PaulMcHanJr
    @PaulMcHanJr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Your videos are getting progressively more professional! The sound, lighting, presentation, all FIVE STARS! Thanks!

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cheers mate - glad you like them

    • @VenturaIT
      @VenturaIT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThinkingandTinkering can you just leave the liquid to dry rather than heating it? then could you heat or power your house using a generator burning this material?

  • @franklinrussell4750
    @franklinrussell4750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Could you do a video about compressing the hydrogen into a storage container and using the hydrogen in
    an application such as a fuel cell or for heating or even cooking!
    This is amazing!

    • @seavil1
      @seavil1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Get a oxygen tank on offerup. than get an oilless pump from amazon. than get visqueen plastic and make a balloon. fill the balloon kup with the gas than pump the gas into the oxygen tank. Just like you would if you were filling up a divers tank. the balloon gets up to 5x5x5 feet and fills the tank. with the tank depending the size of it I can get up to 15 to 20 minutes of continuous gas flow. obviously you do the calculation on the formula flow. let me know what you think of the idea.

    • @SteveBoffgridDIY
      @SteveBoffgridDIY ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seavil1 wouldn't you have to worry about the heat of the compressor? I've been thinking about this

    • @NetworkOverflow
      @NetworkOverflow ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seavil1 what kind of a pressure will this get you to? Is there an efficient way to bump this up, perhaps with a boost compressor or something, to a higher pressure for use in something like a fuel-cell car?

    • @seavil1
      @seavil1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just found out you can use an oxygen concentrator to fill oxygen tanks and you can use the tanks for what any application but use Professional Flashback Arrestor so you don't blow the tank up.

  • @tomkelly8827
    @tomkelly8827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Robert, you are a hero of mine! I love your channel!
    I would love to see another video where you take this material and store hydrogen from your pee electrolysissystem and then make use of the energy afterwards!
    I live off grid with solar panels and batteries and I would love to be able to store some summer energy for the darker winter months but hydrogen storage is a stumbling block for me

    • @kilroy314
      @kilroy314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i share the same feelings

    • @psylentrage
      @psylentrage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Grow potatoes, distill to ethanol, run a Jenny with mix fuel carb. This way you can run it off biogas as well. Sugar is nature's number 1, solar battery, and completely green

    • @RJSoftware2000
      @RJSoftware2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very well put. Evidenced by our evolution to ethanol. Carbon blinded is what we have become

    • @andshofs5769
      @andshofs5769 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@psylentrage Yes, but my conscience cries out burning away food. That‘s why I like the GCN doped with catalysts (there are some free of rare metals) and fed by concentrated sun light (DIY concentrating heliostats) or electrolysis.
      First to produce H2 for some days.
      But also - all outsides - produce NH3 for winter, as 11MWh fit into 2.7m³ standard liquid gas tank (coated against corrosion). As it is self-warning, no bad accidents can happen.
      Unless you fall unconscious from a blow on your head and lie in a sea of it.
      Just use corrosion-protected pipes and vents and a scnr cat.
      But for Biomass:
      Because for heating by biomass, all you have to do is use the cut bushes material, chopping it with fresh sharp blades, so short even-sized pieces can be yielded, and DIY build a convection-storing-drying silo, with sieve by blowing air to throw out the lighter leaf and straw-like parts, and insides disinfect with CIO2 gas in between to prevent mold, and build a Y first to solar-heated drying and in winter, to shove a spoonful at a time in the burner. Found an inverse flame lambda-sensor led burner at patents of sunmachine sterling pellet stove. Replace pellets in the patent that are rising with oil price by DIY chopped garden waste, done.
      Let us do some open hardware/software platform where editors 2d 3d simulation, …, reside, and where we exchange and collaborate (realtime online) to improve drafts.

    • @psylentrage
      @psylentrage ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andshofs5769 food is energy and energy is food. It just depends on the need.
      You're method also can't be taught and implemented in rural communities from supplies at the local hardware store, whereas we've been distilling for millennia and if your not going to be drinking the fuel, you don't have to be that precise nor need a copper stil. This fuel is renewable.
      Gas is not the only product from the digester, you also get a super nutritious fertilizer slurry. And you don't need to feed it with your food. Any biomass will do, obviously the higher the calory content, the better.

  • @isaacrajaa
    @isaacrajaa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This has definitely piqued my interest! Didn't really know there were options to hydrogen storage beyond tanks. Thanks for being generous with your time and knowledge!

  • @aivkara
    @aivkara 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Yet another stunning video... Thanks Rob!
    So, I see the question nobody has asked yet is: How much does it weigh? I'm trying to determine what the useful energy storage capacity would be for a given volume and weight of Carbon Nitride. (for use in an UAV :) )

  • @Buzzhumma
    @Buzzhumma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like your style of introducing these related topics to us. It really is a catalyst for a lot of armchair wonder! 👍🏻

  • @PeterPete
    @PeterPete 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We've determined a great cheap material to store hydrogen and it's everywhere!! Yes, water is the best cheap hydrogen storage solution. We placed hydrogen gas in a small glass bottle and placed it inside a large glass coffee jar filled to the brim with water. We capped it off and then placed the jar submerged in a bucket of water and left it there for approx 9 months. After this time, we found there was no loss of the hydrogen gas in the small glass bottle. In our view the reason why water stores hydrogen really well is because not only is there no hydrogen contained in water but also because hydrogen is immiscible in water.

    • @ZapytajRedditPolska
      @ZapytajRedditPolska 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I call that BS. Hydrogen can easily travel through water.

  • @Barskor1
    @Barskor1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love the porcelain sugar caddy for this what a great find!

  • @dremaboy777
    @dremaboy777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Hmmm...
    carbonized deep-eutectic-solvent.
    Interesting.
    I cease to be amazed at how casual you are, with such valuable understanding of knowledge. You're an invaluable inspiration Rob. God bless you. One of my few favourite guys on the planet. 👍🏽

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      God bless you too mate - the support is well appreciated - cheers

    • @dremaboy777
      @dremaboy777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ThinkingandTinkering
      The function of this material (in this case) reminds me of something i asked you to look into a while ago (when you find time). A "relatively" easy way to make a MOF (Metal Organic Framework).
      They exhibit characteristics like this material.

  • @NetworkOverflow
    @NetworkOverflow ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi Robert! I'm not an expert in any of this, but the only research paper I could find regarding using g-C3N4 as a storage medium for Hydrogen suggested that the "hydrogen storage capacity of g-C3N4 nanotube bundles is at least 5.45 wt. % H2." However, here you're giving a number of 10 wt. % H2. Can you provide the DOI for the article you were referencing, or explain the discrepancy?

  • @larsulrichhansen9140
    @larsulrichhansen9140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man I'm happy I found a great guy like you... you are absolutely amazing! Keep up those videos and stay happy!

    • @brucecowles9265
      @brucecowles9265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      id think he would of seen you maybe part of the 'alcoholica' group, and give you particu- lars-ity a 'cheers'- does Mustaine watch these reports?

  • @MsLegaC
    @MsLegaC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting. This could be a game changer for the fuel cell industry

  • @JavierChiappa
    @JavierChiappa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10% by weight? man, that's a lot of very light hydrogen!
    Also, loved the porcelain sugar containers in the kiln, thanks for those tips.

  • @OverlandOne
    @OverlandOne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is indeed exciting and a great idea.

  • @3dmaker699
    @3dmaker699 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Many thanks Robert ! This is Fantastic information as I'm building a hydrogen fuel cell. Just absolutely great videos on your channel.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      awesome mate

    • @archur111
      @archur111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Question for you, are you using hydrogen as a gas, liquid or solid?
      I'm currently working on a hydrogen pellet like dry ice. Many safety concerns have to be addressed.

    • @3dmaker699
      @3dmaker699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@archur111 I just flew to Jupiter where Hydrogen is a fluid metal at its core and used some hydrogen metal (great stuff that hydrogen metal.

    • @archur111
      @archur111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@3dmaker699 are you saying that you can't transition hydrogen to a solid?

    • @3dmaker699
      @3dmaker699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@archur111 Not magic mate!

  • @TheBaconWizard
    @TheBaconWizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blimey, how did I miss this? A 10k brick of this stuff would power my home for 2 days straight quite comfortably.

  • @rudigerrichter1443
    @rudigerrichter1443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Rob, really a great idea. Just a short time ago I read an article about the Gov. supported idea to store hydrogen in a carbozole called chemical with the revolutionary storing capacity of only 6% per weight of hydrogen. You are ahead

  • @johanndebeer3184
    @johanndebeer3184 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is awesome, how do I sleep now... Thanks Sir

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      it keeps me up too mate - glad you liked it - cheers

    • @TomTrys
      @TomTrys 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hhaahha on actually had a tough time sleeping last night!!

  • @solarhope
    @solarhope 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I will have a go at doing it in a microwave kiln :-)
    Using it as active material in super caps or batteries would be cool.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      so, the polymerisation reaction of urea to carbon nitride occurs between 520 and 550 degrees C. above 650 thermal decomposition occurs. that's a very tight temperature range for a microwave setup to control without computer assist. i might wire a stop start into an arduino with an ir temp sensor into the reactor body. if you do that i don't think you'll have a problem.

    • @solarhope
      @solarhope 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kennethanderson7642 Yes, I think I am only putting off the inevitable too.
      My microwave is only 700W, and can be set for 20% power at the lower setting, so worth a fiddle, making 15g batches rather than 150g

    • @Buzzhumma
      @Buzzhumma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      solarhope if its a transformer type they use duty cycle but inverter types can actually be on at 20% and higher with 100% duty but still its hard to keep that between the small window so i think a kiln is the way to go for even tempretures !

    • @dremaboy777
      @dremaboy777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kennethanderson7642
      i miss kev.

  • @rimoo9618
    @rimoo9618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an amazing 8:25 force vectors of our life........truly amazing information, thank you my friend.

  • @hugofolpp1753
    @hugofolpp1753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, this material is incredible. Thanks for showing it to us in such an easy to digest manner!

  • @benthere8051
    @benthere8051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazingly well done, Robert. That is spectacularly useful for several reasons.

  • @MiniLuv-1984
    @MiniLuv-1984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm loving these short info videos Robert. Thanks mate.

  • @cjdonaldson8536
    @cjdonaldson8536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Robert you are a real gift to humanity, keep up the wonderful sharing.

  • @jagardina
    @jagardina 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw something like this a long, long time ago. They used some kind of storage that needed heated to give off the hydrogen,. They tested the new tank against a gasoline/petrol tank and determined that if gasoline wasn't already a common fuel, it would never be approved today.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      no it wouldn't lol and no one would think lead acid batteries were a good idea either - you'd get.a ton of people arguing about it and experts telling you it couldn't possibly work lol

  • @saulwarren9611
    @saulwarren9611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what an inspirational video! you've solved two major problems i had in mind for two projects. thank you sir^^

  • @robinhood7259
    @robinhood7259 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is brilliant! More people should know this. Why not sell this? With the money we could found a startup, that is building a ready to use system of hydrogen generation, storage, and energy release.

  • @gusteffan
    @gusteffan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Incredible, can’t wait for the next video Rob!

  • @ClericChris
    @ClericChris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Rob, I wasn't aware this was an option to store hydrogen. Are you going to show us how to make element 115 using packing peanuts and shaving cream next? They could throw you in the woods with only an ax and you'd email for help a month later.

  • @paulsutton5896
    @paulsutton5896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This really is amazing. I previously watched a video following a US start-up company called Plasma Kinetics, where hydrogen was absorbed by a layer of "something" stuck onto a plastic film. I didn't believe any such substance exists. Yet the video included Sandy Munro, who could hardly be called "gullible". Plasma Kinetics was very coy about its chemistry. But I think the words "metal hydride" were mentioned and "a lot" of hydrogen could be absorbed in this way. I was very sceptical. Hydrogen is normally such a bugger to store. Surely, the absorbtion of 10% by weight of hydrogen into this goo violates some law of thermodynamics. But Mr Murray-Smith's video lends some credibility to PK's technology. PK was putting it forward as an alternative to batteries. I am now less sceptical.

    • @connormcneill9024
      @connormcneill9024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just having this thought myself, especially after he mentioned that sunlight can cause g-CN to release hydrogen. That's very similar to the PK idea of using a laser to selectively desorb hydrogen from the film. I've also heard tidbits here and there about PK using some type of graphite or metal hydride to make their special sauce, as well as something about doping with magnesium. I wonder if you make this g-CN with some magnesium and maybe sodium or lithium & aluminum you might get some sort of reversible LiAlH4 functionality being catalyzed by the g-CN.

    • @berrymanmichael
      @berrymanmichael ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you mean breaking laws of thermodynamics?

    • @paulsutton5896
      @paulsutton5896 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@berrymanmichael
      I remain very skeptical that this can be done in useful quantities.
      Since then the videos promoting the technology have been "Busted".
      I commend them to you.

  • @walkertongdee
    @walkertongdee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hydride storage is the best and the hydrogen won't burn or explode in the tank under all conditions and is not pressurized, a little heating rod creates the release and flow to an 8-cyl engine.

  • @l0I0I0I0
    @l0I0I0I0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I missed this one! Ty

  • @sadaavedan
    @sadaavedan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! I guess you are one step closer to energy generation and its storage, which is your end game all along.

  • @s0kol44
    @s0kol44 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    here we go again I love how when i need something around tinkering you always pop up :D Love your videos

  • @byj5362
    @byj5362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Very interesting. 10% by weight hydrogen storage capacity is very high indeed. Please continue this subject with the absorption and desorption of hydrogen. 300 degree C is too high for PEM fuel cell applications though. 👍👍

    • @andshofs5769
      @andshofs5769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A heater mustn't necessarily been driven by pure exhaust gas. You keep a bit compressed gas for starting up and simply burn it. If you isolate the storage tank well, perhaps vacuum insulation, you just need to invest the heat capacity it has (c=1J/gK for metal) and the "evaporating" energy when H2 dissociates from the storage.
      Has anyone found links to cool papers that deal with the precise amount of energy you need to drive out the H2 per L gas in normal conditions 1bar 20°C etc.?

  • @Ishoah7
    @Ishoah7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They are making self- contained whole home units in Europe. The unit generates electricity and acts as heat pump

    • @trygvetveit4747
      @trygvetveit4747 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Link to the product?

  • @myhhofuture3778
    @myhhofuture3778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the tips! Always need some motivation to build household infrastructure.

  • @saulwarren9611
    @saulwarren9611 หลายเดือนก่อน

    haha you're brilliant, you made me fall in love with chemistry ^^

  • @drscott1
    @drscott1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I read that using bird feathers as the substrate to heat in a kiln creates a source for hydrogen storage.

  • @ClownWhisper
    @ClownWhisper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this is fascinating stuff Robert are you going to take this to the next level and attempt to store some hydrogen in this media?

  • @mwm2929
    @mwm2929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I have been trying to figure out how to make deuterium, but this blows that idea right out! Thank you once again for a wonderful contribution.

  • @MrPoojanModi
    @MrPoojanModi ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi Robert, I tried to follow your recipe and made graphitic carbon nitride. However, the material never managed to absorb any hydrogen. I supplied 30 bar hydrogen gas at 25 C. Is there any activation process for this material? Did you do a video on graphitic carbon nitride storing hydrogen that shows the amount of hydrogen being stored or being released by this material?

    • @peteraquablue
      @peteraquablue 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      in this video, robert states carbon doped graphitic nitride grabs the hydrogen at 1 atmosphere. i didn’t see anyone else confirming that. did the weight change ? apparently it grabs h2o vapour as well.

  • @tymbarkoholik
    @tymbarkoholik ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW on begin music starts like in The Prodigy - Outta space ;) I LOVE IT!!!

  • @mauriceupton1474
    @mauriceupton1474 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ammonium nitrate syrups, is good stuff.
    They used it to blow stumps.

  • @johnahart9538
    @johnahart9538 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW, AMAZING, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

  • @Matrucos3
    @Matrucos3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is the material reusable?

  • @juggernautsvaderdmunchkinland
    @juggernautsvaderdmunchkinland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Robert, you're one of the few select people I would snatch up and save. Horde the "thinkers" like precious seeds....That is prior to flooding the World out :)

  • @MatthewHolevinski
    @MatthewHolevinski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When I think of Hydrogen storage I just think Ammonia, 1 nitrogen and 3 hydrogen's.

    • @andshofs5769
      @andshofs5769 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then think of H2 as some intermediate energy storage. I do not have seen a video where anyone is doing direct NH3 synthesis, I imagine so far, I have to take the long route: in summer, produce H2, in night burn it, store burnt air as O2 depleted N2 in a bag, next day use it to produce NH3 together with freshly produces H2. But it may be this is not necessary any more.

    • @MatthewHolevinski
      @MatthewHolevinski ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andshofs5769 I don't really see any benefit to hydrogen at all, other than for industrial purposes it doesn't really serve a point. If you are getting all of your electricity demands met with atomic power like a civilized human being, hydrogen for hobby use? I guess?

    • @sampleoffers1978
      @sampleoffers1978 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MatthewHolevinski Atomic power involves building permits and transmission lines. In that ten years to complete project, too much happens politically allowing big oil to kick can down road for another ten years of fossil fuel dependence, and nuclear target for terrorism.

  • @n8th3gr89
    @n8th3gr89 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i’ve been wondering i would store it safely but i appreciate you mitigating me having to find it

  • @steverossgill3271
    @steverossgill3271 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Impressed by your videos!🙏🏼🤞

  • @azlandpilotcar4450
    @azlandpilotcar4450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great one. Shame it is difficult to capture ammonia waste -- great fuel and source of hydrogen itself.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's not that difficult mate - there are ammonium scrubbers in every chicken farm now

  • @zaneaussie
    @zaneaussie ปีที่แล้ว

    Now to get the hydrogen in there...! Great share though love it!!!

  • @GeorgiaAdobeHomes
    @GeorgiaAdobeHomes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fascinating, Thank You !

  • @thinkingoutsidethegrid5625
    @thinkingoutsidethegrid5625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautiful!!! Thank you!

  • @jozsab1
    @jozsab1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm very curious if this practically works. Maybe you will do a video testing the absorbtion and the release oh hydrogen ?

  • @zahirnaseem7030
    @zahirnaseem7030 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely awesome!!!!

  • @scantrain5007
    @scantrain5007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's an amazing method for storing Hydrogen! My congratulation for this. Till now they told us need deep cooling Hydrogen for transport etc. which is very expensive for the anorm tecnical equipment - but with this ... GREAT!

    • @fivethree0
      @fivethree0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this would be too heavy, but if cheaper than cooling, a plus :)

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      there are always different solutions mate - it just depends on what you need

  • @briansondgeroth9674
    @briansondgeroth9674 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Robert, I watched a story on Nova quite a while ago where a fella took chicken feathers and I believe cooked them to a specific temp. He used it to make storage space for hydrogen. I think it had to do with how porous the chicken feathers were. Something to look into maybe. I wish I could find that episode. It was a good one.

  • @lloydy321
    @lloydy321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent, love the variety of interesting ideas. I saw a video on using an old fridge pump to store hydrogen in a propane tank. It was on the channel, The DIY Science Guy , Reminded me of your “recycling of old things“. Would be amazing to see you create a machine like that. keep them coming, your work is awesome.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it wouldn't last that long or even store that much and It certainly wouldn't be that safe mate

    • @lloydy321
      @lloydy321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the same originally, check out the vid if you get chance. He claims to collect 550l of gas at 12bar in about 8 hours. I would think as long as you don’t store oxygen in the same tank it should be similar to acetylene. I was interested in making one of these so I would like to hear you opinion on his setup :) th-cam.com/video/REV739pRNcw/w-d-xo.html

    • @larrywilliams9139
      @larrywilliams9139 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering To be sure hydrogen embrittlement of containers and fittings not designed for it is dangerous. However, it is possible to store 70% more Methane in a tank with propane in it than an empty one at a given pressure due to solubility of Methane in light hydrocarbons. Trying to get my head around whether this would be synergetic or confounding with the carbon nitride. Well, this comment makes no sense because I mis recalled the methane research as hydrogen and then edited out the misinformation. No idea as to solubility of H2 in hydrocarbons.

  • @androidtablet7701
    @androidtablet7701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You just made me want to start up an old project again after years. Man how do you come up with that? Definitely going to try it. Thanks.

  • @kilroy314
    @kilroy314 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just discovered this channel and I am in ecstasy. I am a chemical engineer and I feel at home

  • @fnoronha2010
    @fnoronha2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congratularions Robert ! Could you share some links for papers or books to learn more about H2 storage using this material ?

  • @redsquirrelftw
    @redsquirrelftw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait why are we not actually using this in large scale? You could setup a power generating station that runs on a hydrogen generator that uses this concept, and then has solar panels and wind turbines to produce hydrogen. The hydrogen stash would basically act as a battery for renewable energy. Heck you could have stations like this throughout the grid that simply use grid power to make hydrogen at low demand and then runs the generators at high demand.

    • @andshofs5769
      @andshofs5769 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Politics has no interest in stabilising the grid or making energy cheap so far. On the contrary, while getting rid of Russia, us seems to also get rid of strong economies in EU.
      Only if approved and licensed by the mighty ones some technology is allowed to be practised, everything else is „misinformation“, them doubling their revenues in one year this time (in CoV 2 yrs the 10 richest men doubled their fortune, all runs as planned, as it seems.)

    • @redsquirrelftw
      @redsquirrelftw ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andshofs5769 Sadly you're right. Politics is always what seems to get in the way of progress.

  • @davidday2278
    @davidday2278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seem to remember watching a video a few years back where they were using cremated duck feathers for hydrogen storage 🤔

  • @PaulSmithGsy
    @PaulSmithGsy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been watching your videos for a while and always find them fascinating. I just wanted to say, thank you for all the effort and sharing what you do. Your attitude is fantastically positive and your content always cheers me up.

  • @johnstubbe3113
    @johnstubbe3113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 45 liter LO2 dewores ( stanless vacuum bottles)and need to know the finished weight so I can figure H2 stored , great work

  • @dgpreston5593
    @dgpreston5593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quick math:
    1 kg of hydrogen contains 33.33 kWh of usable energy
    Tesla Model 3 (Std Range Plus?)
    Battery Capacity: 54 kWh
    Consumption Rate: 15 kWh/100 km
    Typical Range: 360 km (225 miles)
    Energy comparable H2 mass: 1.62 Kg
    Required gCN to store H2@10%wt: 16.2 Kg
    gCN cost: $324,000 (@$20,000 per Kg)
    kWh capacity cost:$6,000/kWh ($324,000/54)
    Hmmmm OK $20/g won't get me a hydrogen powered Tesla, but....
    The Tesla battery pack weighs about 1,200 lbs. whereas the gCN hydrogen storage cell would weigh 40~50 lbs. (okay, < 100 lbs)

    • @subfreak1621
      @subfreak1621 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      gCN synthesized with the method in the video should be way cheaper than 20$/g.

  • @PressToDigitate
    @PressToDigitate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IF the IgCN on GoreTex works - pretty much *at all* - for Proton Exchange Membrane and Gas Diffusion Electrode applications, the chance that it needs more material or a larger area/volume to perform the same electrolysis or fuel cell function as compared to Platinum on Nafion, isn't really a show stopper. The IgCN lends itself to improvement in nanostructure with better processing, whereas Platinum is already 'all that it can be'. The difference between Nafion and GoreTex appears to have been determined by DuPont's marketing department, rather than the scientists or engineers involved in creating the material; it seems that it was differentiated for sales purposes, more than anything else, and then somewhat incrementally enhanced for specific applications, but the two started out as one thing. A complete system for low cost, third world Hydrogen production, storage and power generation - from Solar directly and from other renewables by electrolysis - is in the offing, if you made such a diffusion membrane work from these terribly cheap ingredients.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      for sure mate - are you working on it?

    • @PressToDigitate
      @PressToDigitate 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThinkingandTinkering I had intended to a couple years ago, inspired by your work. But don't currently have the setup to do experiments. You've got everything at hand except a few square feet of GoreTex, which is quite cheap as bulk fabric, or could even be cannibalized from used sportswear. I'm not the first to consider GoreTex vs. Nafion: books.google.ee/books?id=CcjrAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA94&lpg=PA94&dq=Bulk+GoreTex&source=bl&ots=zsk5iO4p_3&sig=ACfU3U2K8BQTzh9SUDZenU2am291NCA0ag&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjn_YioxoTqAhUCy6QKHRuNASYQ6AEwEHoECA0QAQ#v=onepage&q=Bulk%20GoreTex&f=false

  • @mdellertson
    @mdellertson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is just great information, thanks for sharing this! I'm curious what research papers you read to garner this info? I'd like to give them a read, so I can better understand the principles upon which this material is based upon.

  • @Kangsteri
    @Kangsteri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Cool. Thanks again! I think you can make this with "pressure reactor" (tightly closed metal pipe) and regular oven too. "The Thought Emporium" has video about it (How to make quantum dots at home). Or in closed can above regular fire. "cayrex2" has video of that called "Material for Battery and Supercapacitors (graphitic carbon nitride)".

  • @abnegative2014
    @abnegative2014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I agree that your the teacher of the century to me. I am 52 and enthralled in everything you dabble in. Great job

  • @robertshellfoon473
    @robertshellfoon473 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent easily explained easy to follow for those beginning to learn

  • @RS3helper
    @RS3helper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like the idea of a hydrogen battery. in terms of storage this is excellent but im not a fan of having to heat up the material to 300 degrees to extract the hydrogen.
    I would have liked you to talk about how much hydrogen could be stored in the amount of urea/sugar mix you created.

  • @AlphaEngineer2022
    @AlphaEngineer2022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi,
    How many cycles can this do before it decides not to hold on to hydrogen anymore? It must have some sort of lifecycle🤔

  • @alibabaneue-welt9602
    @alibabaneue-welt9602 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vid my friend👍👍👍 , we storage hydrogen in ceramic plated tank , an emailed water boiler , its depending on the pressure level of the tank . 50 bar can hold the most boilers . The cost and use ratio is the cheapest way .

  • @tt7hvn
    @tt7hvn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm curious, after this has absorbed or become saturated with hydrogen, then subsequently heated to release the hydrogen for whatever means, what is the byproduct?
    My real question is, can it constantly by used to absorb and release hydrogen without degradation?

    • @ToneTruong
      @ToneTruong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This has been my question too: is the material reusable once heat has been applied? I hope that it doesnt degrade but the hydrogen bonds just break and the material remains relatively unchanged. Anyone got more info about this?

  • @theideasman6018
    @theideasman6018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So is this the same sort of stuff old mate had in the tanks in the boot of his car?

  • @paulsiviour7001
    @paulsiviour7001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff old mate. Love your work. I watch all your videos.

  • @iamzoli
    @iamzoli 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could use helium to release the hydrogen from Graphite

  • @sampleoffers1978
    @sampleoffers1978 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another video said magnesium paste. This stuff probably lets hydrogen get made in deserts/by volcanos and stored. I'd wonder if growing the sugar is cheaper than growing the ethanol crops and how that stuff compares.

  • @eloiseguisse56
    @eloiseguisse56 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First of all: I love your channel! But I have a few questions. What will happen, if I lead browns gas through this storage material? Will it filter out the hydrogen, store it and let the oxygen pass through? And: How to pack this storage-material in a tube for instance and let the hydrogene pass through? Has this stuff to be grinded down to micro or nano size or is it ok as it is?

  • @richardsandwell2285
    @richardsandwell2285 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a super idea, I would upscale this a little, no Lithium 6 Deuteride required with this magic material, I was actually on a dating site the other night and was blocked by the lady engineer I was chatting to just for jokingly suggesting to her that she could steal me some from her work.
    No loss there lol, and that looks a much easier material to produce, I would love to get my car running on H2.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is a nice material for sure

    • @Draakdarkmaster6
      @Draakdarkmaster6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could generate the H2 with energy from solar and store it in this material, release and burn as needed with either heat or sun.

  • @hiddenchambers2922
    @hiddenchambers2922 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating! Thank you for sharing!!

  • @Ishoah7
    @Ishoah7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We should all be driving cars on hydrogen, with each car coming with an external hho generator to refill your tank.

  • @VinoVeritas_
    @VinoVeritas_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From the thumbnail, I thought you were making a container for the updated Baghdad battery.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol - yeah it does look like that doesn't it - they were an awesome find

  • @Buzzhumma
    @Buzzhumma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now this is the content i really like . 👍🏻

  • @flandmore9247
    @flandmore9247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am viewing some of your hydrogen videos. Graphitic Carbon Nitride - Hydrogen From The Sun says that if you bake urea in a potters kiln it burns off the hydrogen leaving Graphitic Carbon Nitride.
    In your electrolysis from urea is the waste at the bottom Graphitic Carbon Nitride - Hydrogen From The Sun?
    Always amazing videos on timely subjects. Thank you.

  • @solarsynapse
    @solarsynapse 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great! Could use Lithium-6 Deuteride. LOL, good luck getting that! Keep up the good work!

  • @alaingrignon
    @alaingrignon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Rob, I sent you an email a while back on your old gmail account, not sure you still use it, but I had proposed an interesting experiment where this stuff could actually be used. Anyway, thanks so much for these videos, it tickles the mind and stimulates my curiosity! Keep it up Mate!

  • @darlaneiberger3673
    @darlaneiberger3673 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok, I'm not too savvy with much of this but here's a question if hydrogen is so unstable why not coat the storage tank with something that's pretty much impervious to oxidation and can only be dissolved by incredibly strong acids, like gold ? An ultralight unstable molecule surrounded by incredibly dense stable molecules... Like using lead to block x-rays.
    Like I said, maybe it's a dumb question and I only ask because I'm a prospector and gold is some amazingly tough and pretty impervious to anything in nature.

  • @flandmore9247
    @flandmore9247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A local fire extinguisher company is giving away hundreds of expired tanks cintinually. The catch is you have to dispose of the contents, monoammonium phosphate a fertilizer and a cool crystal you can play with utube it.

  • @kvn9
    @kvn9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next time we'll be cooking up some helium with all this hydrogen we have.
    All it takes is an old plazma tv, a weed wacker, and bits of an espresso machine fresh from the skip.
    Guaranteed it's gonna be a blast.

  • @marcopohl4875
    @marcopohl4875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently drew up a plan for a hydrogen plane and when I showed it to my brother-in-law (knows more about engineering than I do) he said it would blow up. I freely admit that it was a terrible design, but I am curious now how you would make sure that doesn't happen?

  • @talktoyourself
    @talktoyourself ปีที่แล้ว

    "Honeeey, have you seen my sugar pots? I left the on the counter." (Robert scurries away) 😂

  • @newagerc5356
    @newagerc5356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe you should make it and sell it.

    • @andshofs5769
      @andshofs5769 ปีที่แล้ว

      Better, buy some laser powder fusing 3D Plotter, because what we need is some decently effective electrolysis unit, where you build the structure from some porous material, and coat it with that stuff doped with metal catalyst depending if wanting to produce H2 or NH3.
      It becomes effective if fluid is carried capillary, and gas diffuses through the porous material, and gas is transported in a bit bigger pimpelte structures.
      By this you avoid bubbles, and researchers reached 98% efficacy H2 electrolysis by this trick.
      Perhaps we need a 3D moved micro airbrush spray or inkjet nozzle for the coating with metal atoms for catalysts.
      My plan is to try doing both, H2 and NH3 catalytic electrolysis engines.
      I found out most earth gas tanks for liquid gas are coated and have admission for NH3. This is easily compressible, gets liquid at 9 bar and at 20 °C, which is moderate. You need a bit corrosion protected gas pipes and vents etc.. Perhaps a dryer filter.

  • @nestorknoxs3795
    @nestorknoxs3795 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I. A huge fun of up cycling things. I love your videos, new biggest fan!!!

  • @Thebigmanmetaldetecting
    @Thebigmanmetaldetecting 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another get idea sir you are a true gentleman