1696 Low Cost Hydrogen With the Help Of Magnets And Carbon Felt
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Anton Petrov just released a video about electrlysis research where they used carbonized/pyrolized silk for the electrodes. Except they soaked it in an acid cocktail to add amine groups (-NH2) to the surface of the carbon, and then electroplated nickel onto the fabric. On the oxygen side it was NiFeCo, for whatever reason. That gives you a catalytic surface with a huge surface area. The problem with normal electroplating is that the metal tends to glob unevenly and block a lot of the pores in the material. I've been on that comments section for hours and now I see this, lol.
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@@wombleofwimbledon5442 my system is far more advanced, economical and simple than any highly efficient electrolysis system ever put together
@@SunriseLAW no just taking the old electrolysers and optimising the various components from building the electrode surfaces with graphene to using a highly active catalyst to a nanocoaing that allows for using seawater as feedstock instead of valuable potable water to an innovative power management and distribution system
@@SunriseLAW according to my calculations we should be well above 350% efficient with an over all out put of 1.75 KW of electrical output for every 1KW of input this is just with my meager resources but what I found out in the years of testing is we would be able to achieve much higher efficiencies if the catalyst loading is measured appropriately
Thanks! You've given me another excuse to tinker in the shop. Been playing with HHO for years. Time to add the magnetic field! Been trying to make a 25cc 4 stroke trimmer motor run a car alternator for charging batt banks this may get me a step closer!
There have been alot of innovations recently that would aid your experiment. Best of luck!
@James Cunliffe honestly bio diesel and wood gas would be my bet for a fuel source. Second to microhydro and microwind using water batteries.
Thanks, magnetic field was used eons ago in electrolysis research. But Thanks for bringing it up.
So this is truly awesome.I also have a suggestion that may prove useful. The electrical current that is applied to the process can be further enhanced by "pulsing" it at the resonant frequency of water and weakening the molecular bonds.
I think the cell should / could be designed to resonate itself.
Iv just started playing with hydrogen generation. I have watched about 20 videos on this subject and this is the first time im hearing about the addition of magnets. I really do appreciate your channel mate thankyou.
I wonder if the field rotates will it be even more powerful? Either with 2 magnets rotating with a motor or an electromagnet with ac applied. Now I need to test resonant tesla coils around it lol!!
The kind of movement in the magnetic field is also important, the magnets can assist the push of positive and negative ions into different directions and maybe there is another possible effect in the vertical direction (such as shaking the water, due to the ions present, to push hydrogen bubbles out). Also the ions and molecules form a "queue" near the conductive plates and adding any kind of instability can improve this.
Bless you. This is why of all the channels on the subject I rank yours above all, it's because unlike the others you also put words into action. You spend a lot of time and energy into this and share it too and even help which is so noble and so rare. Love and respect for you.
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Stan Meyer seemed to have done it efficiently with electrical resonance in the electrodes. Resulting in his demise.
Talking to some working the field of Hydrogen fuel cells, he recommended High Temp Electrolysis HTE. I believe the efficiency @ 100'C is 41% & 850'C 64%.
You might also try placing your apparatus in a sonic bath. This might displace the Oxygen/Hydrogen off the electrodes faster.
I had run across the Magnet trick a few years ago by accident watching it and the cell was close to a big speaker it looked like it was pushing the H away from the O, if you also use a high Frequency pulse like 400mhz it helps push the HHO away from the plates faster
Amazing again! thanks for sharing again ur ideas.....
You always put more energy in than you get out . Even if you also burn and not waste the oxygen.
With your Chemistry background, I think we can crack the hydrogen challenges! Keep on this one! I know you can do it! I have researched this quite a bit and with the research already out there, it's doable.
That is very impressive. Thank you.
I think that anybody who has looked at the price of fertilizer lately might conclude that a new method or making rather than cracking urea and ammonium nitrate is a far more profitable thing.
Do you think the magnetic field is helping to push the surface gas bubbles away from the electrode? I think that surface gas bubbles slow down the rate of electrolysis. Similar to the force in a magneto hydrodynamic drive.
Maybe introducing low energy vibrations to the liquid would improve it then.
I think it has to do with the charge of the atoms, the water molecule has a slight negative charge at the oxygen atoms and a slight positive charge on the hydrogen atom, perhaps the magnetic field is helping by providing an extra external force to pull apart the water molecule into hydrogen and oxygen, I can think of one example where a similiar phenomenon occurs, the cathode ray tube, it uses electromagnet to guide electrons to certain areas on the screen, allowing an image to be drawn, I think this is what might be going on here with the magnets and the electrolysis reaction, where the negatively and positively charged particles are attracted to their respective magnetic attraction
@@JuniorJunison And another comment explained it generates an ordered flow of ions in the water.
@@vitordelima ahhh so I was on the right track, cool! Thanks
@@vitordelima There has been research done that shows an improvement in water electrolysis done in an ultrasonic field.
Wow that's great stuff. Combine this with a neutral plate in perfect center between + / - which gives put equal HHO and you have a very sustainable solution
a stack of neutral plates/felt like used with metal electrodes to keep the voltage under 2 volts per cell so the water doesnt heat up. using lye will heat things anyway and having hot lye is not a good thing around skin. going to assemble a test cell with carbon and experiment on a self sustaining 3 horse engine using h2o as the fuel source
One guy converted a power generator to run on hyrdrogen using a 12 volt battery.
He also used the generator to recharge the battery at the same time.
The issue was it would probably corrode the parts in the generator.
For those who don't know, Robert has this carbon felt in stock in his shop and it's cheap to buy. You can start your adventure with tests from bellow £10 :).
The also found in a study that to increase efficiency was to add like a foam sponge, half dipped in the water on the metal plates, it stopped too many bubbles forming which actually block it from being able produce more hydrogen and oxygen.
The water wicks up the sponge and it more effectively does the job.
There's a video about the study somewhere.
Thanks for the video
Once again "Why didn't I think of that?" Ions helped along by a magnetic field. Damn simple and obvious !!
One problem is the bubbles cling and insulate the electrodes reducing efficiency, a speaker under the beaker or an ultrasonic transducer might work too. Try putting the beaker on a magnetic stirrer with a bar magnet in the bottom and move the solution around too. Make those bubbles small and breaking free ASAP. reducing the surface tension of the water with a drop of detergent perhaps.
Carbon foam, water additives, catalysts, magnets, moving the solution around and sound waves could all incrementally improve efficiency if combined in a design, and if proven individually.
And dynamic current, dynamic magnetic fields, ...
You don't need a lot of hydrogen if you're not transporting large amounts of energy!
Yull Brown FREE ENERGY process = Langmuir's HYDROGEN heat PUMP cycle + warm Hampson-Linde cycle ("GEET" or "Vapor Engine" - Creative Commons license)
That was great Robert, thanks for sharing 👍
Water is NOT H2O! Look up videos on the topic on the Peter & Pete channel
Doctor, I was imagining a device to capture the gases and feed it into home heating. Maybe a device allowing a mile more per gallon. 👍🏼
While big energy companies are taking the piss we should be saving it.
Excellent, thought provoking video...
Thom in Scotland.
As always, thank you for your incredibly useful advice and diy information.
Nighthawk did something with whisks stainless steel wool to increase the surface area
Closer together, MORE AMPS.
Placing plates closer 1:45 does reduce resistance. but that actually increases the amps for a given supply voltage. Having the plates closer may allow one to reduce the over voltage while sustaining a satisfactory current density. And lower over potential voltage to push current means higher efficiency.
I understand Stainless steel should not be pushed over 0.5 amps per square inch. I dont know what's appropriate for carbon or carbon felt.
By the way, trying to push too much current between two plates too close can increase the resistance between the plates by bubbles significantly reducing the cross section of conducting electrolyte. But double the plate surface area halfs the heat creating resistance, very much like two identical resistors in parallel has half the resistance of one. (Over potential) × amps = (supply volage-1.24v ) × amps = waste heat.
While the remaining effective resistance to current flow is the work of creating chemical energy. 1.24v × Amps = chemical energy stored.
Over potential × amps = waste heat
Sodium hydroxide (NaOH) works well but potasium hydroxide (KOH) is more conductive than NaOH which allows even lower over potential which translates into more efficent and greater energy savings.
One of the first things I built was a hydrogen generator when I first started following. I really should go back to building one to pump straight into my vans intake.
I've had one on my van for years, works very well, 316 S/S and titanium plates, about 6 amp draw.
Dr. Smith, food for thought here, some research I've done, has one concept of a completely capacitive type reaction. The plates act as if they were the plates of a capacitor. They create a field effect and never come in contact with the solution. This is similar to the external magnets you've provided. I've not gone here yet, as I'm still studying high voltage generation (gathering parts). Water is a bent molecule and the field effect with a voltage high enough across the plates will snap the molecules apart. H to negative, O to positive. The resin printer I now own will provide me the ability to CAD a model this winter. And the ignition coils I got from a junk yard will provide the voltage step ups. The storage system is a simple water column push up. Starting with no head space will provide back pressure. Anyway, try generating hydrogen gas with no head space. Pressures rise very quick. I've already tested the water column system. 7 times more oxygen than hydrogen.
I also use magnets when im copper plating my tools. My diy hho torch blew up on me. Sounded like a bomb went off. People heard it half mile away from me. Not much damage to anything. Thank God
Wonderful!
Who the hell would of thought that a magnetic field would increase the output of HHO gas. I would never think this would work but the proof is in the pudding Robert. Using the carbon felt is another item that seems to increase output.
Years ago my neighbor told me, who was a scientist during WW2 that they used only some sort of steel and reverse the poles every day and just kept on making the gas for research. This was told to me so long ago I am sure I am leaving stuff out. Let us face the music that was fifty years ago. The mind definitely changes with time.
Nice work as usual fella. vf
I thought it strange that just adding magnet's would increase hydrogen production.
Thanks for sharing
This is absolutely genius and now I've got some more experimenting to do myself THANKS for all you do and especially for this one 💯
If you think molecules or atoms as mini magnets in pointing different directions. Hi ph water is conducive. Add electricity, aline(creating magnet fields). Magnets aid in the process, creating field lines. Not a complete thought just an understanding..
Have you considered using ultrasonic to keep the gaseous decomposition products of the electrolyte from sticking to the anode and cathode allowing for increased reaction surface area? Idea here is to keep the surface area at it's maximum as often as possible. Likely the magnetic field helps limit the bubble size which effectively increases surface area in the reaction. I haven't read the research, but I'd like to.
Notice how the magnets are swirling the gas? That's the Lorentz force. I used that effect on the zinc iodide battery with two vertical carbon rods in a Vegemite jar, and one strong Neo under the jar. Both poles swirl in counter rotation.
Love your work Rob!!
Endless amazing stuff 😁
If there is anything happening it is from the ions in the water trying to travel from plate to plate in a magnetic field. Except we can't see the orientation of the field. The magent bit sounds like utter BS, unless the original researchers used it to get some stirring without moving parts and that made a difference?
Did you ever see The Hunt for Red October? This is how the "caterpillar" drive in the sub supposedly works. It goes back a long ways and had a revival in the 1950's.
Did you see the Just Have A Think episode about using silicon powder and water to make hydrogen? They're adding water to silicon powder and that produces silicon dioxide and hydrogen no electricity required apparently.
I am slightly curious on this as it seems a little too simple and am wondering what other chemicals could do the same and how simple it really is.
Pure silicon is made industrially by heating silica (silicon dioxide/quartz) with coal. You can also make it by purifying magnesium silicide in muriatic acid to generate silicon (and a lot of burning magnesium, silane gas, and hydrogen gas).
Either way, you're using more energy to make the silicon (and more still to grind it into a powder) than you'd get from the hydrogen you'd produce by adding the silicon powder to water, as you're essentially just reversing the conversion from silica to silicon back to silica. So it doesn't seem to be particularly useful unless you already had a large supply of silicon powder on hand and wanted some hydrogen. It's a neat party trick to use in a science classroom, but not useful for industrial production of hydrogen, unfortunately.
TANSTAAFL
Rob, you should try a high voltage electromagnet or an arc of some kind to get more ions moving across the system!
I tried but it not end well, the H explodes.
Or any other waveform in the electric current besides constant amperage.
@Rick3y Rick3y It seems the distance between electrodes and how they are built is much more of an issue than anything else, or even do anything possible to avoid electrolysis completely.
I tried one of those high voltage modules in water (about 3cc) and the bang was so loud I don't think I'll try it again, lol. You only need a couple of volts potential at the reaction site to do electrolysis and the current and surface area etc. determine the rate of production. I suspect when you put 30,000V or what have you into water the plasma arc just violently pushes the water out of the way :)
Thanks Rob ;) The magnets were a good twist, very surprising.
Have you experimented with ultrasonic cavitation as a "catalyst" for electrolysis?
I remember hearing a lot about this years ago, but it seems to have died away.
Hey Rob. First may I say a big thank you for this vid, secondly did you see the Anton Petrov video uploaded yesterday talking about a new electrolysis method using a layer of silk and activated carbon? Apparently it increases hydrogen production by 80% and is also scaleable... I would love to see that method improved by magnets
many thx do you have the link?
@@janbeute4902 I tried to post a link to the original paper but it was automatically deleted I'll try again in another reply if you don't see it you know why
Could you please do a comparison on the volume produced with or without both the felt and the magnetic field? Would be a more objective experiment and give an idea on the scalability of the system. Thanks.
I think Robert has done a video of this in the past .
Absolutely brilliant!!! done lots of research in this field, your extremely informative vid has rekindled the inspiration. Thanks so much😊
Hiya Rob. The 'magnets + carbon felt' looks like a game changer in that. proper storage is still a tackling issue ,Thanks .
LOL. Proper storage is not the main issue with hydrogen production. The main issue is the fact that it costs significantly more energy to produce hydrogen than its combustion yields. This means that it's practically useless until we have a steady excess of energy. If you know anything about economics, that is a long way off. There is one short-term benefit to hydrogen, though: it has a higher power density than batteries if used with a SOFC. This will potentially enable EVTOL vehicles to be more advanced. Powering said EVTOL vehicles with hydrogen will still incur heavy losses, though, so they are realistically only for the rich. You'd be paying out the ass to run anything on hydrogen.
@@jaxjax2011 This is spammed everywhere by the same people but it's true for every other fuel in existence except a few (methane, for example), because fuels are energy storage and not energy production.
@@vitordelima H2 production is 45-55% efficient, up to ~70-80% with HTSE. It also takes electricity, which is about 45-65% efficient to produce. End use in ICEs or SOFCs is anywhere between 35 and 85 percent efficient. The net efficiency of hydrogen production in most cases is between 17 and 25 percent. This is laughable compared to using fossil fuels directly, or just using electricity in a motor. Think about it. You either extract fossil fuels, burn them in a power plant, use that electricity to produce hydrogen, distribute that hydrogen, and then burn it in vehicles... incurring significant losses at every step... or you just extract and distribute fossil fuels directly, or indirectly through electricity.
People always try to say some sh*t they pulled out of their ass to sound smart online. How long did that thought take you to produce, ten seconds? Do some research next time. I'm not typically this rude, but I'm frankly appaled by how you used some surfacy opinion you have about how things work to disregard an actual empirical statement.
@@vitordelima Even your own words don't support your opinion. Yes, most fuels are a form of energy storage. Last I checked, that was the informal definition of "fuel". How exactly does that change the fact that using one fuel to produce electricity to produce another fuel (hydrogen) is highly inefficient by nature?
@@jaxjax2011 Too tired to deal with you and your kind.
Do you think a high frequency pulsed electro magnet set up might be more effective?
I looking into that and going to experiment with 1/4 wave thinking like in ariels.
It does make sense, your giving the energy, lines of magnetic force to follow through the water between the cathode and anode. Reducing the resistance I would imagine. As it has a path already set out to follow, rather than having to find it through the water with no set path, and more lines of force it can follow. Finding the least resistance possible. At least, thats what would make sense to me.
IIT Bombay experimented and got 3 times faster hydrogen production at 19% less energy input with external magnetization and a special electrode.
The external magnet can be removed yet the electrode retained the magnetism for half an hour.
Thus existing electrolyzers can be retrofitted and used as magnets are temporarily placed.
The electrode in question has some cobalt + carbon.
The article was published on its website and
The magnets appeared to affect the flow in the electrolyte between the two electrodes so the flow was around the perimeter of the beaker. I imagine this is happening because moving charged particles are redirected by the magnetic field of the magnets. Perhaps the effect of separating the flows somehow reduces the net resistance and thus increases the production of H2 and O2 (I presume the current from the power supply went up too).
Immensely interesting! I made a car have better fuelefficiency using a homemade hydrogen fuelcell and it took a while for the engine to blow up. Using Carbon felt like this I could possibly make it even better, without corroding the electrodes as fast and maybe even have the liquid wick through a reductionpipe to have a set adjustment on the hydrogen made, without moving parts
Years ago back in the early Fifties at a chemistry lesson I made such a cell but used an old carbon rod from the inside of a depleted battery. It worked a treat. Regards, Jim in NI UK
Wonder what the production would be like if the stainless steel and catalyst were an armature.. say you have a stainless steel jar, lid and all, you fill it with the catalyst then have a layer of magnets surrounding it and that jar put into a bigger jar filled with catalyst then put into a permanent magnet motor surround and voltage be inducted into the solution when voltage is applied to the motor with a bldc controller or even commutate it by adding one and getting super technical with it by alternating the commutator bar windings separated by the two jars. With the carbon felt the two jars would be electrically isolated from one another and the dc voltage would be both inducted and injected. Only thing would be how to allow the gasses to escape and be collected.. I would think the production would be multiplied by a factor of 10 fold and maybe more with added rpm.. lol.. I mean they figured out how to make molecular sieves and those beads with nanoscale structures that increase their surface area by so much they fright separate on a molecular level, they should be able to figure out how to continually extract gasses from an actively charged spinning armature without blowing everything up or shorting the thing out... right..? 🤓
Some of the best comments I've ever seen.
So let's combine them.
Let's try Iron nitride magnets, covered with stainless steel,
Further plated with graphene or a reactionware pattern.
Put the plates as close as possible, use a strong flow in a wider chamber
And ultrasonics to get the bubbles away from the electrodes as
Rapidly as possible. Insulate heavily and increase the temperature.
And fine tune the ultrasonic and AC frequencies.
Use a transparent chamber with lenses polished into the sides,
And focus precisely tuned lazers through those lenses into the
Electrodes.
Thank you for keeping us updated
I did this numb-scullery as a child of 12 yrs old. The electrodes material best suited is solid carbon rods, the kind that were used in common batteries back in the 70’s; or now, carbon arc gouging rods you can get at a welding supply store. The electrolyte needs to be sulfuric acid, just a 10% solution is fine. The O2 and H2 that is generated is best utilized to fill a garbage bag with. Than tie that off and ignite with an electric fuze. It’ll be the loudest “firecracker” the neighborhood will experience. Setting car alarms off in the far vicinity.
Waterboost was a product I saw several years ago & was fitted in vehicles to improve combustion, hydrogen & oxygen both helped engines burn all the fuel in the cylinders & reduced emissions. When inventor took his car for MOT it failed because it had real low emissions, he asked them to test it again & turned off the hydrogen generator & car passed. Still seems odd a vehicle would fail for not producing enough emissions 🤔
worth looking into
Does the orientation of the magnets impact the effect? I suspect some sort of MHD effect @ molecular level here, which would imply using a different orientation. I note production was offset, so perhaps production liked the angled / returning flux lines? Or perhaps the water was swirling...?
Also suggest trying a s/steel bar in centre of beaker to focus the flux across the gap...
Professor Murray-Smith. YES! Thank you for this video! You have addressed and answered one of my comments a few videos back about reclamation, conversion and use of the exhaust emissions from diesel engines via the use of ad-blue (urea, or more concisely, piss) Thank you! Sincerely yours, your best fan that's a bit skint, but at least very enthusiastic 😃
Thanks
Magnets in HHO cell with helical electrodes. Check out US Patent 4,105,528-Hasebe neat design.
If you were to add aluminum to the sodium hydroxide solution, a chemical reaction will occur and produce the hydrogen without any electricity used. It is also exothermic so one could harvest the heat for power as well.
There is research about smelting a metal then throwing it into water to produce hydrogen from heat.
Ok, good comparisons. 1. Try adding a surfactant to electrolyte to possibly reduce Valency bond. 2. Then repeat under Vacuum. Please publish results if effective or at least comment on observations. Thank you, Don.
Quite amazing, I love how you dig these kind of gems in research papers 🔥
been incorporating magnets with graphene and catalysts into my electrolysers for years and an innovative power management and distribution system
@@mohammadhashemi1771 Cool where did you learn about it, research papers aswell ?
@@strongforce8466 it's been over 8 years of research and testing
Very cool 👍😎
gee my cranky prostate makes me release urea every few hours lol
Awesome video. Thank you.
Hi Robert you did a very impressive Hydrogen cell with graphite that you cut with a knife did you ever put more plates on it and try it on a vehicle tbe HOLLY GRAIL what every body is trying to do if you say it doesn't work i will believe you I think you're very genuine bloke 😀
Just plasict dip the magnets and then have the carbon felt over the magnet . Then have stainless mesh as your electrode .
Robert ,could you use your electrolysis cavity as a capacitor with pure water ,then somehow reduce the power level on a microwave cavity and wire it directly to the cavity as a resonator to pulse the capacitor tank then maybe tune it into resonance with a coil kind of like stan meyers did ?
This guy is the only guy on all of TH-cam who has done a Stan Meyer circuit correctly
m.th-cam.com/video/4_jCKBv_fxo/w-d-xo.html
Can you elaborate? What do you mean by cavity?
@@SoulfulSolid6 hydrolisis cell.
@@cruzemissile5409 So pulsing microwaves like an ultrasonic bath? I remember stan meyers mentioning this as finding the natural frequency of water to require less voltage to break the bonds or something along those lines.
@@SoulfulSolid6 I use the bob beck blood boiler circuit with distilled water to make colloidal silver and it works on this principle. I never add any conductive chemicals and i get very good silver . Stan meyer used his cell as a capacitor in a capacitive inductive tank circuit and tuned in the resonance with pure water as the electrolyte in the cell. whatever water was in the cell could be broken easily once you find the resonant frequency.
Awesome!
Reminds me of a magnetic water conditioner, not fully understood for many years, even though these work. Just need a safe simply way to compress and store the hydrogen ready for when it’s needed
Or figure out how to make enough for it to be useful immediately. I love the idea of hydrogen stored perfectly safe as water
@@you-know-who. I wish I could remember how the old giant gas silos that use to rise and fall worked, they were simple and safe.
Gold plating should last a very long time
Another great video!
Interesting. I'm now wondering if my gold stripping electrolysis cell would work faster using magnets. I'm using the naceint surface transitory reaction of gold and chlorine in a sodium chloride brine solution under electrolysis.
would an oscillating magnetic field work better to "shake" the hydrogen bubble free of the carbon felt?
And maybe tuned sonics?
external magnetic field, now thats very interestng
great content thanks
Have you tried Stanley Meyers fracturing technology using high frequency , and his water car?
great results
might be possible to increase reaction speed further by adding a surfactant. I do electro-etching with a simple brine solution, adding 5% (by weight) rinsing aid to a 5% NaCl brine roughly doubled current draw.
@@elarcadenoah9000 just the blue stuff used in dishwashers. there are specialized surfactants for such applications but I have no experience with them.
If you increase the temp of the water and perhaps the pressure, I think you will be pleased with the increase of hydrogen. Give it a try!
Dear Rob! Have a look about the frequency 432 Hz. There is no mater , it is all frequency.
Activated charcoal/carbon is used in underwater rebreather apparatus by Navy divers because it absorbs CO2 allowing expelled lung oxygen to be recycled. It is not practical for industry due to the cost of making the activation feature.
Tapping into the inexhaustible energy from atoms opens the door wide open for fast and cheap electrolysis of water to produce hydrogen etc. Newer, cleaner, simpler, cheaper microreactors are likely the only path forward to mass produce hydrogen and at the customer locations.
Hydrogen cannot be broadly distributed by pipeline due to leakage and hydrogen embrittlement of the inside of the steel pipe.
saturated steam into a vacuum chamber, local 442 Ripon calif, Edward Stockton.
Really awesome stuff 👏
I've done hydrogen-production research for nearly 30 years.
What I found was, if I use a contraption similar to that used on submarines to create oxygen for the crew (former military), one electrode of a metal with a +3 covalence, the other electrode of magnetic stainless steel and a catalytic electrolyte, the bubbles come off each electrode more in the fashion water in heavy boil. It roars with reactivity.
I won't share the +3 metal or the electrolyte, but if you own a periodic table, and have a moderately-good background in physical chemistry, you'll figure it out. It took me 30 years; you'll get there eventually.
I don't want to share specific details because it's way too dangerous. I had two separate bomb squad investigations of my house and lab. It's not worth it. Be safe out there.
As we have discussed in the past the water molecule is magnetic. It has poles. The electrons from the oxygen are pulled to the side of the hdrogen atom's and this creating a magnetic differential across the molecule. This allows a magnetic field to put stress on the water molecule and also keep the water molecule aligned so that other forces can expert continuous force across the molecule in one direction like polarized light is polarized by a lens which allows that light to be modified.
This is off course the basis for Stan Meyers circuit and I suspect the magnets here are doing two things.
1. Prestressing the water molecules and keeping them aligned
2. Creating a initial filed level which the amps then add to so the amps used are less per bond broken this you get more molecules broken for the same amps and more output.
Would it work to take a stainless steel wire, coat it with carbon fiber, and then coil it up as an electromagnet?
Coating the electrode seems to be important for this. Another tip I found was the use of molten salt electrolysis and steam.
I haven't seen the publication mentioned in this video at all so please take this into consideration when reading my comment, but I've seen a few super dodgey chemistry research papers where magnets are used as the basis for "ground breaking" results. See the toxic series from a youtuber called "that chemist". Although I get that the difference in electrical potential between two electrodes is used as basis for electronic ph meters.
If you can live with the hazards of premixed HHO, then very close (porous fabric between) separation gives improved efficiency, but does not allow the gases to be separated.
Very effective flame blocking is needed to avoid ignition travelling back up the pipe and detonating the whole supply
This may sound stupid but it's been known for centuries that magnates can repel or attract water . So I don't find it surprising that it can speed up this reaction.
Robert, if you think that something, just wait a couple more months, and Eco Guards IES out of Atlantic Canada will be giving humanity, a fully functional type of HHO magnetic quick production system. That not only produces great sum of gas quickly, that are then used in a compression/combustion engine. Thereby using it to harness electricity, while a small portion of it is also used to continue in a looped system, all with sea water. The by-product being nitrogen enhanced clean fresh water, which is great for growing eatable plants. It's been in the private not for profit works since 2015. Would not surprise us, if that paper you reference, got their theory's from that source. By the way, don't trust the Cloud.
I work for one of the largest Hydrogen producers, the challenge with Hydrogen is storage and transport, but there are interesting solutions to that coming! A wee experiment to try injecting hydrogen into your rocket stove to increase the heat? produced
Hmmm, maybe OK with just H but don't even think about trying to get HHO into any sort of fire. You'll hear the boom miles away...
In the next video have fun experiment with increasing the octane of the fuel and water injection.
I red somewhere that dispose of water that served to do electrolysis with stainless steel is illegal in some places, because it is contaminated with nickel and chrome.
More amazing stuff .. all the time .. we are like monkeys carrying machine guns .. never know what pulling the trigger will do!!! lol 😂