GM EV-1 26.4 kWh nickel-metal hydride (NiMH) 142 mi (228 km) The demise of the EV1 inspired the conception of the American battery electric carmaker Tesla Motors.
The thing is they could have made a great muscle EV. Instead it feels like they purposely sabotaged it so they can keep saying people don’t want EVs. It’s the same thing Toyota is doing.
@@DoubleCTech well to be fair, i wanna have a hybrid not an EV, in brazil the infrastrcture for EVs just doesn't exist, if i was to buy an EV id need to rework the entire wiring of my house, i hope i don't have to explain why that would suck.
@@toninhosoldierhelmet4033 Sounds as though you have very poor wiring in your house if it cant handle a car charger?! I guess it a Brazil poor quality thing?
Difference of this review and others is that others just hate on it because it's electric. This is an ev channel that praises the good and will bash on the bad ones. Not just because of the drive train.
totally agree..but for me it puts a different generation of drivers/car owners on display. OMG the car doesn't tell me where to recharge..i'm gonna die. Drive an ICE vehicle in West Texas or Alaska and you have to work at staying fueled. At some point EVs will be in the same position, just man up and deal with it.
I really appreciate your honesty and candidness. Unfortunately, you probably just uninvited yourself from any future Dodge events, but it’s refreshing when every other reviewer is sugar coating everything.
I've never experienced it, but I think what they did with the Ionic 5N would be a great party trick. Get somebody new in the car, then turn it on after a mile or 2, and rev it out. I imagine it's giggle worthy, then I would turn it off again.
@scott8919 but they saidbthe same thing. Answering a question nobody asked....chry/dodge ram has always done things and taken chances and created new segments..Ford and chevy stagnate. Pacifica. Minivan. Rear drive v8 sp. Utility. 4 door charger hellcat. L/h cars that were world ahead of taurus...a 2019 truck that leapfrogged chevy and ford and is still winning awards for reliability that tied Toyota for 2 years..neon srt..dakota mid size truck. I could go on and on about the culture of a company that leads. Not follows
@ubeuonly Man, I'm on my 5th Dodge now (and my 3rd Challenger). I understand being a Mopar fan and trying to be optimistic. But the new Charger just doesn't seem like some brave new alternative to the status quo. On one hand, Dodge claims it's a muscle car, but it clearly doesn't appeal to most customers in that market. On the other hand, it's obviously a BEV, but doesn't appear to be a particularly good one, and also doesn't seem to appeal to most customers in the EV market. I do love the styling inside and out. I'm interested if they ever fix all the gremlins in the Hurricane Inline 6, or come back around with a Hemi option, to make it a more true representation of what the muscle car market would embrace. But, to paraphrase other commenters, the new Charger seems a poor answer to a question no one was asking. Who's going to buy these in EV form? Serious question.
@@VaunShiz These guys are clowns. Anytime you see a sensible post, there's always a stack of comments from clowns. That's why corporations do what they do -- there's more suckers than thinking people these days.
I remember when Chrysler rolled out the next to last Sebring model, then proceeded to list about 10 different areas that they totally misjudged the market on (basically every key aspect of what the public would expect from the vehicle). Nice to see them continuing that tradition here!
its funny because if they made an extremely mediocre cheap V6/V8 car with this design it would be a great successor to the challenger and people would love it. instead they make an extremely mediocre, expensive electric vehicle. for a picky crowd with a design that most of them wont even care for. great stuff.
But its not for the EV crowd. It's for muscle car fans. Regulations are forcing these companies to do this stuff because of fines/taxes etc... I had to pay a "gas guzzler tax" for the last two cars I bought. Its the unfortunate reality that EV's are the future and dodge is just trying to get a jump start on it. If society pushed towards hydrogen combustion instead, this conversion would be 1000x easier than EV's, but governments are forcing the hand of manufacturers. I personally hate the idea of an EV and EVERY SINGLE EV car has been ugly as hell. If any EV was to convince me to swap over, it would be this car because its a good looking car that isn't completely silent. I'd much rather have a 6 speed manual V8, but one day that wont be an option anymore.
@@test-tl8dt The only muscle car left is the mustang, and that will likely be EV with its next gen. We don't really have a much of a choice and Dodge is just getting ahead of it. I don't expect the Daytona to sell well right now, but its the unfortunate future and personally I think Dodge nailed it with the best they could do their first go around to make a fun looking EV.
@@RaansuEV’s are NOT the future. They don’t do anything better than an ICE. They are only a thing because the government told us they are. But there’s a new government back in charge and oil is back on the menu again.
“i refuse to say the name of the speaker.” “Dodge owners are too stupid to know what 1-pedal driving is.” “Stellantis has so many brands and they all suck except for Ram.” “I can’t wait to stop driving this car.” “Let’s annoy those by revving right next them like all Dodge owners.” Real mature criticism and “truth” 🙄
They addressed all of the cyst concerns about ev cars and tried to deliver. More personality and sportiness than tesla. And ford and g.m. dint offer anything
100% building for bailouts ... at $70K these things necessitate an annual income of $210K a year. 0% APR with 10% down and the payments are still $1100 a month for 5 years. Whoever is running this company has forgotten their target buyer (the American working class). This is insane. They needed to deliver a tech basic EV with traditional muscle car performance at $30K ... not this trainwreck at $70K ... even $30K is 'rich' compared to the median income in the US ... $70K!?!? ... insane ...
Imagine the first cars with horse noises. That is how lame adding ICE noises to an EV is. Add horse farts to complete the picture. Hmmm, Tesla has a fart generator so they might be thinking many moves ahead.?
@ I’m just pointing out that our paradigm for EVs is ICE which is fundamentally wrongheaded. When EVs dominate by the end of this decade, attempt to make EVs sound like ICE will not have aged well. About as well as adding horse noises to the first gas cars. How about a Hybrid transition from horses; a horse drawn gas car?
Thank you. Its so obnoxious when youtubers do 5 minutes of ads and self promoting at the start of their vids. Most of the time it makes me click away immediately
@@CadgerChristmasLightShowthere are chapter markers, so you can easily jump over the advertising, and that’s fine for me, in particular as kyle’s reviews are topnotch.
Don't be sorry for being truthful. Sometimes the truth hurts, but lies are worse. Yours was the most informative and HONEST review I've seen of the Charger.
The front trunk being empty space anyway but yet sold as an option on an ev is just a pure scam. THE CAR IS ALREADY 70K LIKE WTF. Imagine if tesla did this
You lost me at “just over $60,000” This should be a mid $30,000 starting. And no NACS. Another shot in the foot. These will not sell very well. Then Stellantis will say “see, no one wants an electric car”. Wrong. No one wants an overpriced, under spec’d electric car. Just like everyone has been saying for YEARS now. RIP Stellantis
It’s like a breath of fresh air to watch someone review a product and be brutally honest. I feel like every reviewer talks a product up, and you can tell they’re just spouting b/s to make the manufacturer happy. As as far as this car goes, I like the way it looks, I love that rear hatch, but that’s where it ends. People that want muscle cars aren’t buying ev’s, and people that wants ev’s have wayyyy better options to chose from for the money.
It seems like the biggest issue is they're using a platform thats not meant specifically for EVs nor ICE, so they had to compromise. Which leads to ev people not being happy and v8 people not being happy.
@@sungbaek3526 just sit in a personality devoid tesla. Tuck your balls and enjoy. Nothing. A car made to sleep in. This is a different animal and I'm glad they make something daring and unique
Put a 392 in it, some black bumble bee stripes on the tail, load it with taller gears for passing speed vs drag, and I'll order one. Dodge doesn't want my money though, apparently.
It's literally sad. Originally Stellantis said it would offer the best range of over 500 miles. Then said it would be affordable. Then said it would be crazy fast. What we got. 💩
i'm one of those "hate filled" hemi guys that owns a Hellcat Challenger. I was watching this video had a bowl of very hot soup and decided to take a big gulp of soup so i could burn the roof of my mouth rather than continue watching this video.
@@brianfeeney3936 LOL! well "brian" ... perhaps my sarcasm regarding the Dodge EV Charger is shared by a lot of other people given the fact that the CEO of Stalantis GOT FIRED for pushing his IDIOTIC idea of the electric charger. but hey, what do i know?
This car is such a head scratcher. A product that not a single customer asked for and fulfills no needs. Sure, the Charger and Challenger were getting old but they somehow had a lot of heritage charm. People and police were buying a ton of them, the tooling long paid off. Glad they're bringing those cars back. Maybe the 4-door Charger might interest someone but I doubt it.
1:04:40 - Good ole FCA. Agree with Kyle, it's a really disappointing 1st gen EV attempt from Dodge and it seems like they already wrote it off "wait until next year when the combustion one comes out" is an insane thing for a PM to say during a EV press event.
@@Charlesbjtown I doubt it. This EV endeavor will force them to pump up those straight 6's to the max to try and create some profits to offset the losses from these EV's.
Just another shining example of how Stellantis has no idea how to build excitement or a brand. It is amusing that EV muscle car owners need simulated engine noise to impress bystanders (and themselves). This is akin to stuffing a rolled-up pair of socks into your shorts to impress the ladies and prop-up a fragile ego.
In what way? You think you’re a comedian but this release and the proposed Jag have nothing in common. Don’t know why hating on things is an accepted pastime.
If a hair dryer was a car it’d be this one… loud, electric, and it gets the job done regardless if it’s bad or not 😂 They definitely had a quota to reach by the EPA
At some point in the near future, the complete destruction of the Jeep and Dodge brands by Stellantis will become a case study taught in MBA programs. It is absolutely insane the damage that has been inflicted on them and I don't know how long it will take them to recover from it, if ever. The worst part is the people working the assembly lines in North America have tried reporting all the issues they are seeing on the floor, but the executives won't listen and fix them; and the workers on the floor will suffer the most when they get laid off because no one wants to buy the junk they are being forced to make.
I appreciate the honesty from Kyle in his review. Ultimately at the end of the day, companies like Dodge need to hear the good, the bad, and the ugly. It's about the product and if the product isn't good, it's not good. The only thing Dodge can do is build a better product.
Anyone who would say he's ungrateful doesn't realize the importance of a TH-cam publisher who's not corrupted by being paid off by the products they review!
People will get tired of car makers offering 3s 0-60mph EV cars. Big news when the first one went below 3s, sure. But now it's getting boring. It's insane to me to see two guys arguing about 3.2, 3.1 or 3.5 seconds to 60 and how 3.5s is bad and disappointing and "soooo 2018". EV's can be fast easily. So that USP will sail quickly. It will come down to design, range and comfort.
I would agree, but the whole premise of this car is "raw performance". And at this price, if the performance isn't there, then what is the point of it?
Yeah- the days of "muscle cars" are over because now people expect EVERY car to be a muscle car. My Model 3 LR RWD (cheapest car Tesla sells) does a 13.2 second 1/4 mile without trying! Meanwhile, back in 2009, my BMW 335i with the boost turned up would BARELY get into the mid 13's if I really abused it. So....why would I bother with a 335i now?
Not everybody wants a muscle car, most people just want a dependable daily driver. I had a wickedly fast 74 Challenger, but I didn’t drive to work every day.
Not everyone needs a super fast car and actually most people can't handle it. Going to get scary should be license restrictions for like new young drivers
Imagine buying a car where they telll you that every time you fill the tank, it will become irreversibly smaller. And that if you fill it too quickly, the same thing will happen. And that if you let it run down too low, you will damage it also. And imagine also being told that in freezing weather, your tank would become much much larger when charging, and then become much smaller once charged. And imagine being told you'd pay up to a 4x price premium filling it up at the wrong place. Yeah -- Nah. I'll pass.
The base model of this thing cost about $14k more than my BMW i4. IT'S A DODGE. There's no way it competes in 99 out of 100 ways with an average bimmer, although it does have a bigger pack, and AWD. But a muscle car shouldn't have AWD. Absolutely agree, the car makes no sense.
If you asked Dodge buyers if they'd trade a bit of rang for "performance sound", I'd bet you'd have your answer. This may make sales like Hyundai did with their fake noise and shifts in the Ionic N.
If this pre-production model is what the final production version is, there is NO WAY this car is ready! It need more software tuning and updating. They should have launched the ICE version first, and put more time improving the EV option.
No need to apologize, this was the most honest, informative and best review of the new Dodge EV so far. I own a 23 ScatPack and a KIA EV6 GT, based on the core themes of all reviews so far I definitely have no interest, especially at the current MSRP price point. Even if prices drop, say 25% there is still no compelling reason to buy this car.
33:30 That cogging is just software/programming. I experienced that in the first-year KIA Niro EV when I tested it. People accused me of being "a hater" for calling it out, but it was apparently an issue because KIA rolled out an update that fixed it on all Niro EVs. I'd expect Dodge to do the same.
I thought it's like 35 ,,,not 85 ,,,wayyy too much ,,,people just don't have money these days and the ones that do have a bit more are more cautious of spending it
The 0-60 times on these are fine, my car has a 4.8 second 0-60 time and you can't really floor it many places, an under 4 second 0-60 is fast and most people wont' tell the difference between 3.1 or 3.5 seconds 0-60 times. And no one buys cars based on 0-60, that's why pick-ups and small crossovers with 180 hp make up the top 10 selling cars. The problem here is $70-80k which is way too much, it is a huge coupe when coupes don't sell, and it seems to have the typical Stellantis quality issues. It is just a car that doesn't have any sales appeal.
This EV version screams "compliance car" to me - I'm sure the 4 door gas powered ones will likely sell well if Dodge/Stellantis prices them right particularly since I think they got the styling right and the Hurricane engines have gotten some media praise, but this one just seems like they were literally forced to build it and the task was too great.
Charger for the obvious electrical reference. They knew it was not going to be a Challenger unless referring to your pocket book. Great video and coverage of the vehicle. 🤪🌎❤️🕺🏻🐶
Stellantis needs to knock it out of the park with the REV pickup. As an owner of two dodge vehicles, I now have no plans to own another. I feel like Stellantis doesn’t understand the US market in the slightest. They should’ve just built this thing with the Hurricane in it and kept or refreshed the hemi to keep their customer base happy. Is it time for Dodge to start shopping a burial plot?
So Stelantis fired most every truck platform engineer. They outsourced parts and components design to non-auto suppliers for absolute bottom dollar. They are making a non-hybrid hybrid that has never existed and you think there is ANY hope that it will be a good product?
This objectivity alone means you are a true journalist. Fuck what anyone says, this makes your opinion so valuable. The transparency and pure technical reaction. Keep going
Scathing, but deserved. I empathize with you Kyle. For those of us who are true car enthusiasts, we want to see these companies succeed. Every point you hit on was unbiased and accurate. It's like Stellantis forced a team of their people who have no interest in EV's and have never driven one, into creating an EV as punishment, and they did the bare minimum without enthusiasm. For the price, the Charger EV offers nothing anyone wants. Plenty of better ICE sports cars for less, and better EV sporty options. I'd probably rent that over a Corolla at the rental counter, but that's it. BTW, what's funny is that my Sierra EV with the mid-gate down makes neat electrical whining and regen noises that are way cooler and sportier than what I heard on the Challenger in your video.
I would be surprised if they sold 500 of these. So many better choices. Model Y performance blows this car away in every way. Oh, I almost forgot, Stellantis is very close to going out of business, closer than almost any other car maker
It's not horrible. They needed to make it cheaper. Why are batteries/motors still so expensive. This crap needs to be cheaper than combustion if they want people driving it.
_"This crap needs to be cheaper than combustion"_ Unfortunately, "combustion" engines are _stupidly_ cheap to make and there's *no* simple/cheap way to make a ginormous Li-Ion battery pack.
I'm a V8 Challenger guy and I was actually open to one of these things, but the weight alone is seriously killing it for me and the price tag is kind of insane for what this thing is.
The weight isn't the problem. The ridiculous price tag is ... they built a car from a brand that traditionally targets the American working class at a price point that only the upper middle-class can afford ... they should have produced with a target of $30K on the RT ...
@@ubeuonly it's an RT ... not an SRT ... $70K? Get real ... even the Hellcat is priced out of range of their target audience (absent debt slavery). Do the math on the $70K price tag ...
@@jeffs6090 they were the last automaker to announce the port. Notably they also did not announce a partnership with Tesla to allow supercharger access. They only announced changing to the port. Their lack of enthusiasm for this is clear.
You are sorry for this type of video??? No, I am sorry you had to put up with making it, such a fail, compliance car, for pretty much no one. Maybe they just made the crappiest car, to convince the enthusiasts that the upcoming gas one is better, therefore gas cars are better, there has to be some shady hidden agenda.
Only ONE person @ Stellantis wanted this car & he finally got pushed out the door (Tavares). NO ONE @ Dodge wanted to design this car. NO ONE at Dodge wanted to build this car. NO ONE at any dealership wants to try to sell this car. And lastly, NO ONE is wanting to buy or drive this thing. It is obvious by the build quality, fit/finish, software design & all the other issues that it was rushed into production (a year or so too early) but it's finally performance numbers & options are years behind it's competitors. It's not a bad looking car, but it's way too big. Such a travesty. Thanx for ruining this brand, Carlos...
The best thing about the car is the trunk. The car only appeals to those in love with the Dodge brand and Charger model name - but really want it to be an EV instead. So, perhaps 3 people might be interested in this.
Isn't it a shame you can't be critical of a model without getting blacklisted? There are a thousand "influencers" just waiting to suck up to whatever scraps a manufacturer tosses out. It's going to get worse as companies continue to buy up the popular youtube channels so they guarantee the "proper" review.
Couldn't agree more. They will have to discount these at least $20k to get any off the lots. To think it's 1,800 lbs heavier than my 2024 M3P and so much more expensive it just blows my mind. They had so many cars to benchmark I can't fathom how they ended up with this.
Jaguar is planning to kill their brand and base, whereas Dodge is successful killing their brand and base. Seriously can’t see how this will be anything but an expensive flop that might send the nail into coffin of Dodge/Ram/Jeep into bankruptcy.
Don't be sorry for stating honestly your views no matter the car! We highly appreciate your approach and if the carmakers don't, so be it, they should learn from their mistakes and improve the product, not to be crying likes babies/ (indirectly) paying for good reviews.
A huge thank you to Ben from the Gjeebs TH-cam channel for filming this with me! His channel is linked here: youtube.com/@gjeebs?si=qkEDyLv7M2iio4Mt
GM EV-1
26.4 kWh nickel-metal hydride (NiMH) 142 mi (228 km)
The demise of the EV1 inspired the conception of the American battery electric carmaker Tesla Motors.
My two favourite ev reviewers with a great honest revue
Great review Kyle as always!
You’ve got integrity Kyle, it’s refreshing and the OEMs should thank you for it in the long term
Gjeebs is the 💣
Buying a EV from Dodge, is like order a burger from a Chinese restaurant
The same could be said of Hyundai, Ford, Kia, and other traditional auto manufacturers
@@StrokedGT Hyundai and Kia make a great EV ... so not really the same. Also the Lightening is a great truck for the price.
The thing is they could have made a great muscle EV. Instead it feels like they purposely sabotaged it so they can keep saying people don’t want EVs. It’s the same thing Toyota is doing.
@@DoubleCTech well to be fair, i wanna have a hybrid not an EV, in brazil the infrastrcture for EVs just doesn't exist, if i was to buy an EV id need to rework the entire wiring of my house, i hope i don't have to explain why that would suck.
@@toninhosoldierhelmet4033 Sounds as though you have very poor wiring in your house if it cant handle a car charger?! I guess it a Brazil poor quality thing?
When the chief engineer doesn’t know how fast the onboard charger is you know something is wrong
That was my first thought
Or they didn’t want to admit how slow they can charge?
@stevelovescars you'd think being honest and factual as opposed to feigning ignorance would still be a better move.
@@scott8919 One would think so.
23:55 2.1 mi/kWh?
How in God’s name did they manage to make it *that* bad?
Difference of this review and others is that others just hate on it because it's electric. This is an ev channel that praises the good and will bash on the bad ones. Not just because of the drive train.
Great point!
Exactly!
totally agree..but for me it puts a different generation of drivers/car owners on display. OMG the car doesn't tell me where to recharge..i'm gonna die.
Drive an ICE vehicle in West Texas or Alaska and you have to work at staying fueled. At some point EVs will be in the same position, just man up and deal with it.
Nobody asked for this car. The point is that it went from a decent priced fast muscle car to an overpriced below average EV.
@@troybooker2331Nobody? There's a lot of people who were excited for it. Too bad it's overpriced trash
Holy crap this thing is going to be one of the most expensive swing and misses we've ever seen in the car industry.
Except it isn't because the government (taxpayers) paid to fund it. Stellantis has gotten billions from the US gov for EV development.
Look up the joint venture by Honda and Sony. The Afeela is an absolute turd.
@@AP383BB and that in and of itself is the problem with "green" tech. it doesn't function without subsidization.
I really appreciate your honesty and candidness. Unfortunately, you probably just uninvited yourself from any future Dodge events, but it’s refreshing when every other reviewer is sugar coating everything.
Tavares is gone. If they still have a problem with this guy calling out his awful product, they can kick rocks.
Pretty much everyone gave this thing a bad review. Are they going to dis-invite everyone?
What Events??? Their won't be Anymore!??
@@quixomega sell out influencers like RacerX still shilled for them
They will need to disinvite almost everyone unless they figure things out.
Fake engine noise always reminds me of 9 year olds putting playing cards in their bicycle spokes.
Jealous much?
You just need to get the cards on the right spokes for pretend V8 noise. 😂🎉
I've never experienced it, but I think what they did with the Ionic 5N would be a great party trick. Get somebody new in the car, then turn it on after a mile or 2, and rev it out. I imagine it's giggle worthy, then I would turn it off again.
When I was a kid, I did that. I probably destroyed a $1,000,000 in Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris cards.
Folks who need that noise are just seeking attention ; "LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!" I don't want or need that.
"The car nobody asked for"
Perfection. No notes.
@@mtotheatothedoubled nobody asked for the Pacifica crossover...but it was copied and sold by every manufacturer
@@ubeuonlyno one copied the Pacifica. It was not the first crossover.
@scott8919 but they saidbthe same thing. Answering a question nobody asked....chry/dodge ram has always done things and taken chances and created new segments..Ford and chevy stagnate. Pacifica. Minivan. Rear drive v8 sp. Utility. 4 door charger hellcat. L/h cars that were world ahead of taurus...a 2019 truck that leapfrogged chevy and ford and is still winning awards for reliability that tied Toyota for 2 years..neon srt..dakota mid size truck. I could go on and on about the culture of a company that leads. Not follows
@ubeuonly Man, I'm on my 5th Dodge now (and my 3rd Challenger). I understand being a Mopar fan and trying to be optimistic.
But the new Charger just doesn't seem like some brave new alternative to the status quo.
On one hand, Dodge claims it's a muscle car, but it clearly doesn't appeal to most customers in that market.
On the other hand, it's obviously a BEV, but doesn't appear to be a particularly good one, and also doesn't seem to appeal to most customers in the EV market.
I do love the styling inside and out. I'm interested if they ever fix all the gremlins in the Hurricane Inline 6, or come back around with a Hemi option, to make it a more true representation of what the muscle car market would embrace.
But, to paraphrase other commenters, the new Charger seems a poor answer to a question no one was asking.
Who's going to buy these in EV form? Serious question.
@TheLumpyOne it is a muscle car. As fast or faster than a hellcat. All wheel drive. And wait for the banshee
Stellantis has a future in the funeral industry. I think they've found their niche in manufacturing nails for coffins.
Rumor has it they are a large SCI shareholder 😂 JK.
The price is in the realm of a C8. It is more expensive than a Lucid Air with 500 mile range. Think about it. Good luck Stellantis. You will need it.
8:08 -- *All models have identical drivetrain/ battery, yet the Performance Package costs $15k more for a software tune. Beyond offensive.*
What’s FSD then?
Software isn’t free, bucko
@@Emm2004you’re not very intelligent huh? All the cars were designed to be the scat pack , they went out of their way to slow down the lesser models.
@@VaunShiz lol little do you know what I do
@@VaunShiz These guys are clowns. Anytime you see a sensible post, there's always a stack of comments from clowns. That's why corporations do what they do -- there's more suckers than thinking people these days.
Stellantis is really on a roll here....right over the financial cliff.
How true, they got rid of all muscle cars and replaced it with this. I don't see a good future with Dodge. Which makes me very sad .
I remember when Chrysler rolled out the next to last Sebring model, then proceeded to list about 10 different areas that they totally misjudged the market on (basically every key aspect of what the public would expect from the vehicle). Nice to see them continuing that tradition here!
That screen takes one business day to respond after touching it. Sheeeesh
UAW latency effect😂
Somehow my Subaru is worse than
Said no review ever
America have rarely made good car interiors
Must have been designed by VW! 😂
Dodge just wants to be able to say “look how bad EVs are.”
Probably 😂😂
Interesting..🤔 I like the way you think.
bz4x part 2
They are bad. Good for point A to B but not enthusiasts.
That Mazda Electric with 100 mile range
its funny because if they made an extremely mediocre cheap V6/V8 car with this design it would be a great successor to the challenger and people would love it.
instead they make an extremely mediocre, expensive electric vehicle. for a picky crowd with a design that most of them wont even care for. great stuff.
But its not for the EV crowd. It's for muscle car fans. Regulations are forcing these companies to do this stuff because of fines/taxes etc... I had to pay a "gas guzzler tax" for the last two cars I bought. Its the unfortunate reality that EV's are the future and dodge is just trying to get a jump start on it. If society pushed towards hydrogen combustion instead, this conversion would be 1000x easier than EV's, but governments are forcing the hand of manufacturers.
I personally hate the idea of an EV and EVERY SINGLE EV car has been ugly as hell. If any EV was to convince me to swap over, it would be this car because its a good looking car that isn't completely silent. I'd much rather have a 6 speed manual V8, but one day that wont be an option anymore.
@@Raansu i dont think many muscle car fans are in the market for an EV
@@test-tl8dt The only muscle car left is the mustang, and that will likely be EV with its next gen. We don't really have a much of a choice and Dodge is just getting ahead of it. I don't expect the Daytona to sell well right now, but its the unfortunate future and personally I think Dodge nailed it with the best they could do their first go around to make a fun looking EV.
The woke individuals clamoring for battery operated cars ride scooters.
@@RaansuEV’s are NOT the future. They don’t do anything better than an ICE. They are only a thing because the government told us they are. But there’s a new government back in charge and oil is back on the menu again.
The average sports car guy doesn’t need 27 modes to have fun driving a sporty car
I like this car & want one ! I don't want no ugly tesla😢
@ your going to lose 50% of it’s value in about 6 months
@@jimsteinway695same with tesla.
@@erictate5985 "I don't want no ugly tesla". So you want an ugly Tesla then?
@@PEACEOUTXX1Porsche won’t even take used taycans on trade they depreciate so much
Without the truth, Dodge can't get better.
It's their first EV, as long as they take the criticism on board and improve these vehicles will get better.
@@darmouThey could have benchmarked existing EVs. Instead it comes across like they built THE first EV.
With Stellantis ultimately calling the shots, Dodge can't get better
@@darmou they will be bankrupt way before they ever get to learn anything.....
“i refuse to say the name of the speaker.” “Dodge owners are too stupid to know what 1-pedal driving is.” “Stellantis has so many brands and they all suck except for Ram.” “I can’t wait to stop driving this car.” “Let’s annoy those by revving right next them like all Dodge owners.” Real mature criticism and “truth” 🙄
It seems that the engineers at Stellantis are engineering their exit strategy from their jobs.
Nope, actually my wife just got a raise. So nice try.
Many of the OG engineers are gone. They hired a bunch working in India and Brazil.
Seems like they built a FU to Tavares.
Yes sir!
@RONderluck lol she got a raise from her bosses pants too.
OH yay. Fartzonic speakers. 😂 No one at Stellantis is thinking anymore, they’re building for a bailout, not for the public.
They addressed all of the cyst concerns about ev cars and tried to deliver. More personality and sportiness than tesla. And ford and g.m. dint offer anything
@ubeuonly Ford has the mustang MachE and Chevys Volt back in 2015 was already pretty good.
@spacedoutcowboy5211 Mach e is a joke that they can't give away. And nobody wants tiny cars like the volt
@@ubeuonlyAnd this piece of trash will be right beside them, on the overflow lot😂
100% building for bailouts ... at $70K these things necessitate an annual income of $210K a year. 0% APR with 10% down and the payments are still $1100 a month for 5 years. Whoever is running this company has forgotten their target buyer (the American working class). This is insane. They needed to deliver a tech basic EV with traditional muscle car performance at $30K ... not this trainwreck at $70K ... even $30K is 'rich' compared to the median income in the US ... $70K!?!? ... insane ...
Imagine the first cars with horse noises. That is how lame adding ICE noises to an EV is.
Add horse farts to complete the picture. Hmmm, Tesla has a fart generator so they might be thinking many moves ahead.?
You can turn them off. What's the problem?
@ I’m just pointing out that our paradigm for EVs is ICE which is fundamentally wrongheaded. When EVs dominate by the end of this decade, attempt to make EVs sound like ICE will not have aged well. About as well as adding horse noises to the first gas cars.
How about a Hybrid transition from horses; a horse drawn gas car?
I wish my car had horse noises.
@RaufAbasquliyevit’s not a problem, it’s that they even exist in the first place. It’s funny and pathetic
The first cars couldn't even have noises of any kind ffs ppl are you really that dumb
Video starts at 4:11. So many ads
Thank you. Its so obnoxious when youtubers do 5 minutes of ads and self promoting at the start of their vids. Most of the time it makes me click away immediately
And after 8 min. all we've seen is the charge point door.
@@CadgerChristmasLightShowthere are chapter markers, so you can easily jump over the advertising, and that’s fine for me, in particular as kyle’s reviews are topnotch.
So that thing is only 800 lbs lighter than a Cybertruck?? Damn it's bad
yeah but it's 4000 pounds less than the silverado ev or the gmc hummer ev
Those trucks with 200+ kWh of battery and can pull 10,000 pounds behind it, regardless how far you can do that. 😂@@drewdevon2009
@@drewdevon2009 Yeah, the cybertuck is lighter because it's gutted crap, like teslas in general.
It weighs about the same as a full size Ford Expedition or Chevy Suburban.
@alterbr33d its an EV what do you expect. the batteries are heavy
the collab we all been waiting for ! Good job Kyle & Gjeebs !
Don't be sorry for being truthful. Sometimes the truth hurts, but lies are worse. Yours was the most informative and HONEST review I've seen of the Charger.
Dude thinks the r wing front is optional. He's a twerp lmao
The front trunk being empty space anyway but yet sold as an option on an ev is just a pure scam. THE CAR IS ALREADY 70K LIKE WTF.
Imagine if tesla did this
You lost me at “just over $60,000”
This should be a mid $30,000 starting. And no NACS. Another shot in the foot. These will not sell very well.
Then Stellantis will say “see, no one wants an electric car”. Wrong. No one wants an overpriced, under spec’d electric car. Just like everyone has been saying for YEARS now.
RIP Stellantis
They will sell when they age on the lot brand new
Sounds like you’re just a cheapskate to me
@@RONderluck that’s how you stay rich 🤑
For what the Charger is, it completely falls on its face. Such a disappointment because it's gorgeous.
How many $35,000 cars have 500 HP and as long as an S-class?
Kyle usually likes any and every EV, regardless of its styling or shortcomings. For him to rip this Stellantis EV, it’s gotta be pretty bad!
Agreed!
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If someone swapped all its guts and internals from Model S, that would be one badass-looking EV that doesn't actually suck.
And shed a 1000lbs or so?
It’s like a breath of fresh air to watch someone review a product and be brutally honest. I feel like every reviewer talks a product up, and you can tell they’re just spouting b/s to make the manufacturer happy.
As as far as this car goes, I like the way it looks, I love that rear hatch, but that’s where it ends. People that want muscle cars aren’t buying ev’s, and people that wants ev’s have wayyyy better options to chose from for the money.
It seems like the biggest issue is they're using a platform thats not meant specifically for EVs nor ICE, so they had to compromise. Which leads to ev people not being happy and v8 people not being happy.
@@sungbaek3526 just sit in a personality devoid tesla. Tuck your balls and enjoy. Nothing. A car made to sleep in. This is a different animal and I'm glad they make something daring and unique
This is a Dodge and it’s less American than a Tesla. Let that sink in.
That’s not saying much. Tesla is about as American as it gets. This Stellantis is about as European as it gets.
I believe that Tesla is the MOST American car made currently .
@@Deetroiter That’s exactly what I’m saying without saying it.
Built in Canada, even better!
@ not really. It’s about the same.
The depreciation on this thing will be insane, Pick a used one up next year for 20-30k would be a good deal then,
thats true for very dodge made besides those srt ones. yea never buy a new dodge if you want a deal
No worse than the POC AUDI my neighbor took a 70% loss after one year.
@@jamesmyers9285 What kind of Audi was it that he wanted to sell after 1 year ?
Just as tesla and mache
Until it bricks itself and then you're screwed when the warranty is out because it's not fixable.
Outstanding video! Thanks for your very professional and respectful honesty! 👍👍👏
Put a 392 in it, some black bumble bee stripes on the tail, load it with taller gears for passing speed vs drag, and I'll order one. Dodge doesn't want my money though, apparently.
perfectly stated
I'll take your money LOL
The price is not there.
The performance is not enough.
The range is straight up bad.
Stellantis doing Stellantis stuff.
This car will remain on the lot longer than the Dodge Hornet.
I like the hornet but I bought the Alfa Romeo version instead.
It's literally sad. Originally Stellantis said it would offer the best range of over 500 miles. Then said it would be affordable. Then said it would be crazy fast. What we got. 💩
Yes. Faster than hellcat is not enough
@@ubeuonly Not when you get EVs that are both faster, with longer range AND cheaper.
i'm one of those "hate filled" hemi guys that owns a Hellcat Challenger. I was watching this video had a bowl of very hot soup and decided to take a big gulp of soup so i could burn the roof of my mouth rather than continue watching this video.
Self harm is pretty common among toxic masculinity types. No worry.
I did the same as a 5.7 owner😂😂😂😂😂
then don't watch it bro ..grow up instead of thinking your comment is clever
@brianfeeney3936. Listen to Brian everyone. He is a real grown up adult. So wise. So mature. Not like the rest of us....
@@brianfeeney3936 LOL! well "brian" ... perhaps my sarcasm regarding the Dodge EV Charger is shared by a lot of other people given the fact that the CEO of Stalantis GOT FIRED for pushing his IDIOTIC idea of the electric charger. but hey, what do i know?
The drifting section somehow summed up the whole thing. Lots of promise but completely flopped.
I felt bad watching it.
@@Cyrribrae "I worked really hard on that"
Yeah that was honestly sad to watch
If the dodge guy is having this much trouble trying to get this shitbox to work correctly there isn’t a sole on earth who should buy this thing.
This car is such a head scratcher. A product that not a single customer asked for and fulfills no needs. Sure, the Charger and Challenger were getting old but they somehow had a lot of heritage charm. People and police were buying a ton of them, the tooling long paid off. Glad they're bringing those cars back. Maybe the 4-door Charger might interest someone but I doubt it.
Those missing buttons are called “Poverty Buttons” it just reminds you of how CHEAP your $70k car is 🙄😭😭😂😂🤣🤣🤣
thanks for the honest review, sounds like quite a disaster of a car, do it right or don't do it all Dodge!
Even if they did it perfectly no Dodge owner wants an EV.
If Dodge ‘did it right or don’t do it at all’ they’d never produce another car.
Oof. Kyle's already ripping on this thing and I haven't even started watching the video. I gotta get my popcorn 'cuz this is gonna be good.
1:04:40 - Good ole FCA. Agree with Kyle, it's a really disappointing 1st gen EV attempt from Dodge and it seems like they already wrote it off "wait until next year when the combustion one comes out" is an insane thing for a PM to say during a EV press event.
The combustion one won't be fast either. It'll probably be even slower than these two things in this video.
@@Charlesbjtown I doubt it. This EV endeavor will force them to pump up those straight 6's to the max to try and create some profits to offset the losses from these EV's.
100% agree.
Yeah but who the F wants an inline 6 from Stellantis of all companies in this world ?
Just another shining example of how Stellantis has no idea how to build excitement or a brand. It is amusing that EV muscle car owners need simulated engine noise to impress bystanders (and themselves). This is akin to stuffing a rolled-up pair of socks into your shorts to impress the ladies and prop-up a fragile ego.
Apparently Jaguar and Stellantis have been talking to each other.🤔
In what way? You think you’re a comedian but this release and the proposed Jag have nothing in common. Don’t know why hating on things is an accepted pastime.
Finally, an EV for the double-digit IQ crowd: inefficient, loud, and poorly designed.
😂
But how do they afford it? Will sell less than 1000 units a year
If a hair dryer was a car it’d be this one… loud, electric, and it gets the job done regardless if it’s bad or not 😂 They definitely had a quota to reach by the EPA
Income & IQ are not related.
@@YuenanCao It's a compliance car
At some point in the near future, the complete destruction of the Jeep and Dodge brands by Stellantis will become a case study taught in MBA programs. It is absolutely insane the damage that has been inflicted on them and I don't know how long it will take them to recover from it, if ever. The worst part is the people working the assembly lines in North America have tried reporting all the issues they are seeing on the floor, but the executives won't listen and fix them; and the workers on the floor will suffer the most when they get laid off because no one wants to buy the junk they are being forced to make.
google "5th column" and "who does the west owe money to"
I appreciate the honesty from Kyle in his review. Ultimately at the end of the day, companies like Dodge need to hear the good, the bad, and the ugly. It's about the product and if the product isn't good, it's not good. The only thing Dodge can do is build a better product.
Imagine if Tesla put a monster V8 engine in their cars, this is the equivalent.
They need to hire a new team, people from Tesla, Kia, or the Chinese engineers. Love this guy, no BS. Dodge needs to hear this.
I’m a dodge guy and love that they nailed the look
Yes it has that sort of retro muscle car vibe like in the early '70s
Can’t be too difficult to repeat the body style…its been the same since 2000
“a Dodge guy”? Twelve Steppers must have a “group” for you…❤
“ The reason why we don’t have more electric vehicles on the road is not design , its hardcore engineering “
agree looks good
“nothing about this is good!”.. don’t sugar coat it Kyle tell us how you really feel ha ha!!👍
Or "I'm ready to stop driving this car now".
Anyone who would say he's ungrateful doesn't realize the importance of a TH-cam publisher who's not corrupted by being paid off by the products they review!
Thank you for the honest review 👍
“Stellantis failed, the Charger’s a mess,
Bugs and cost, a waste at best.” -the grinch
Some dude on yt is gonna buy this and turn it back into a true v8😂😂😂
The strut towers are too narrow to fit a hemi. Will need major fabrication.
I wonder if Rich Rebuilds would give it a go?😂
where theres a will theres a way
@@drunkpolack7612 Not if you make it rear engined.
Frame cant mod for internal combustion engine. Thus "Brick".
I watch every automotive journalist on TH-cam. You guys are the best at reviewing EVs. No one understands EVs like you guys.
I mean most of them own Teslas. Hope that doesn’t make them biased.
Ben Sullins too?
People will get tired of car makers offering 3s 0-60mph EV cars. Big news when the first one went below 3s, sure. But now it's getting boring. It's insane to me to see two guys arguing about 3.2, 3.1 or 3.5 seconds to 60 and how 3.5s is bad and disappointing and "soooo 2018". EV's can be fast easily. So that USP will sail quickly. It will come down to design, range and comfort.
I would agree, but the whole premise of this car is "raw performance". And at this price, if the performance isn't there, then what is the point of it?
Yeah- the days of "muscle cars" are over because now people expect EVERY car to be a muscle car. My Model 3 LR RWD (cheapest car Tesla sells) does a 13.2 second 1/4 mile without trying! Meanwhile, back in 2009, my BMW 335i with the boost turned up would BARELY get into the mid 13's if I really abused it. So....why would I bother with a 335i now?
@@blurglidedefine muscle car
Not everybody wants a muscle car, most people just want a dependable daily driver. I had a wickedly fast 74 Challenger, but I didn’t drive to work every day.
Not everyone needs a super fast car and actually most people can't handle it. Going to get scary should be license restrictions for like new young drivers
Imagine buying a car where they telll you that every time you fill the tank, it will become irreversibly smaller. And that if you fill it too quickly, the same thing will happen. And that if you let it run down too low, you will damage it also. And imagine also being told that in freezing weather, your tank would become much much larger when charging, and then become much smaller once charged. And imagine being told you'd pay up to a 4x price premium filling it up at the wrong place.
Yeah -- Nah. I'll pass.
Also replacing the tank is 20k and will total any car older than 10-15 years nearly instantly.
The base model of this thing cost about $14k more than my BMW i4.
IT'S A DODGE. There's no way it competes in 99 out of 100 ways with an average bimmer, although it does have a bigger pack, and AWD.
But a muscle car shouldn't have AWD.
Absolutely agree, the car makes no sense.
Or be battery operated.
A gas muscle car shouldn't be awd. Not a rule that applies for evs.
800 Watts of sound! 😂
We did some math, with the sound ripping 800 watts it’s basically 10 miles less range on a full charge
@@KyleConnercan it be turned off? Sounds like a waste and dumb
@ that’s hilarious! Only Dodge could make their EV less efficient with sound alone!
If you asked Dodge buyers if they'd trade a bit of rang for "performance sound", I'd bet you'd have your answer. This may make sales like Hyundai did with their fake noise and shifts in the Ionic N.
@@geraltofrivian516he turns it on @39:51 in the video, so yes
If this pre-production model is what the final production version is, there is NO WAY this car is ready! It need more software tuning and updating. They should have launched the ICE version first, and put more time improving the EV option.
SOP has supposedly already been postponed several months, electronics and software seem to be the main roadblocks.
No need to apologize, this was the most honest, informative and best review of the new Dodge EV so far. I own a 23 ScatPack and a KIA EV6 GT, based on the core themes of all reviews so far I definitely have no interest, especially at the current MSRP price point. Even if prices drop, say 25% there is still no compelling reason to buy this car.
The price on this makes it a complete non-starter. It's more than a BMW i4! AND IT'S A DODGE!
Yall got some balls riding in a new charger ev with stellantis drive assist next to an 18 wheeler 😱
I actually like the look of it but you lost me at 5800lbs.....
Model 3P is 4054#.. exactly. This car is over 1700# MORE!!
@@grahamstefaan it weighs about as much as a cybertruck and is slower than the beast xDDDDDD
With two adults in this, it's over the 6000 lbs weight limit of the garage of the flagship Electrify America station in San Diego.
My extended cab long bed F150 is lighter...jeez
@@grahamstefaanand 55k-7500 ev rebate = 47,500 and does 2.8/10.8
A 10s ev for 47,500 = ICE is FINISHED
33:30 That cogging is just software/programming. I experienced that in the first-year KIA Niro EV when I tested it. People accused me of being "a hater" for calling it out, but it was apparently an issue because KIA rolled out an update that fixed it on all Niro EVs. I'd expect Dodge to do the same.
The Pistol Grip shifter is a reference to the Pistol Grip shift lever that was available in Mopar B-Bodies back in the original muscle car era.
This is why I watch your reviews and I am not even an ev guy. You tell it like it is
That's a great $40.000 car
Nope. You’re just a cheapskate.
I thought it's like 35 ,,,not 85 ,,,wayyy too much ,,,people just don't have money these days and the ones that do have a bit more are more cautious of spending it
Junk.
@@RONderluck Nope, YOU'RE just okay with being scammed. Not even close to what you can get for 70k.
These cars are for people with 500 and under credit. At best rental cars, not $60k
The 0-60 times on these are fine, my car has a 4.8 second 0-60 time and you can't really floor it many places, an under 4 second 0-60 is fast and most people wont' tell the difference between 3.1 or 3.5 seconds 0-60 times. And no one buys cars based on 0-60, that's why pick-ups and small crossovers with 180 hp make up the top 10 selling cars. The problem here is $70-80k which is way too much, it is a huge coupe when coupes don't sell, and it seems to have the typical Stellantis quality issues. It is just a car that doesn't have any sales appeal.
Go get a twenty dollar laundry basket at Walmart, toss it under the hood. Instant frunk!
This EV version screams "compliance car" to me - I'm sure the 4 door gas powered ones will likely sell well if Dodge/Stellantis prices them right particularly since I think they got the styling right and the Hurricane engines have gotten some media praise, but this one just seems like they were literally forced to build it and the task was too great.
Charger for the obvious electrical reference. They knew it was not going to be a Challenger unless referring to your pocket book. Great video and coverage of the vehicle. 🤪🌎❤️🕺🏻🐶
I love the way it looks.
It's amazing how bad they made such a gorgeous car.
Cringe badging aside it looks good
@@anthonyc8499Dodge has always been good at that.
Yeah I think they nailed the styling - The gas powered and 4 door ones will probably be well received.
Me too.
Stellantis needs to knock it out of the park with the REV pickup. As an owner of two dodge vehicles, I now have no plans to own another. I feel like Stellantis doesn’t understand the US market in the slightest. They should’ve just built this thing with the Hurricane in it and kept or refreshed the hemi to keep their customer base happy.
Is it time for Dodge to start shopping a burial plot?
So Stelantis fired most every truck platform engineer. They outsourced parts and components design to non-auto suppliers for absolute bottom dollar. They are making a non-hybrid hybrid that has never existed and you think there is ANY hope that it will be a good product?
@@patricksquires77 I think most of us are adding it up and coming to the same conclusion here...
This objectivity alone means you are a true journalist. Fuck what anyone says, this makes your opinion so valuable. The transparency and pure technical reaction. Keep going
he is a hack and a dem.
Scathing, but deserved. I empathize with you Kyle. For those of us who are true car enthusiasts, we want to see these companies succeed. Every point you hit on was unbiased and accurate. It's like Stellantis forced a team of their people who have no interest in EV's and have never driven one, into creating an EV as punishment, and they did the bare minimum without enthusiasm. For the price, the Charger EV offers nothing anyone wants. Plenty of better ICE sports cars for less, and better EV sporty options. I'd probably rent that over a Corolla at the rental counter, but that's it.
BTW, what's funny is that my Sierra EV with the mid-gate down makes neat electrical whining and regen noises that are way cooler and sportier than what I heard on the Challenger in your video.
They say you can’t predict the future; I beg to differ. I know for a FACT something that will never be said:
“Check out the Fratzonic speaker!”
I would be surprised if they sold 500 of these. So many better choices. Model Y performance blows this car away in every way. Oh, I almost forgot, Stellantis is very close to going out of business, closer than almost any other car maker
Almost being Nissan…
Who would have thought that the least reliable European brand buying the least reliable American brand would not be a home run?
Seems like I read somewhere recently that one of the Chrysler or Dodge descendants or family heirs wants to buy the brand(s)?
Nissan has entered the chat...
It's not horrible. They needed to make it cheaper. Why are batteries/motors still so expensive. This crap needs to be cheaper than combustion if they want people driving it.
motors are not expensive but batteries still are
_"This crap needs to be cheaper than combustion"_ Unfortunately, "combustion" engines are _stupidly_ cheap to make and there's *no* simple/cheap way to make a ginormous Li-Ion battery pack.
Who is “they?”
I'm a V8 Challenger guy and I was actually open to one of these things, but the weight alone is seriously killing it for me and the price tag is kind of insane for what this thing is.
Hellcat performance. Same price. No issue for me. And it not a tesla pusssy car with a big goofy non intuitive screen
🤣🤣🤣
@@ubeuonly lol good joke 😂
The weight isn't the problem. The ridiculous price tag is ... they built a car from a brand that traditionally targets the American working class at a price point that only the upper middle-class can afford ... they should have produced with a target of $30K on the RT ...
@@ubeuonly it's an RT ... not an SRT ... $70K? Get real ... even the Hellcat is priced out of range of their target audience (absent debt slavery). Do the math on the $70K price tag ...
When are American companies going to make affordable EV's that make sense to the actual public? Kinda like the original VW Beetle.
Video starts @2:49
The official Stellantis announcement is thats NACS ports will be added to vehicles starting in 2026.
Idk - no executives at the event would say that
If so, being a year late sounds like a dumb strategy.
Let's hope Stelantis is still around by then, we know Tavares is history.😂
@@jeffs6090 they were the last automaker to announce the port. Notably they also did not announce a partnership with Tesla to allow supercharger access. They only announced changing to the port. Their lack of enthusiasm for this is clear.
A car with a soon to be outdated charge port is not one I would want to buy
You are sorry for this type of video??? No, I am sorry you had to put up with making it, such a fail, compliance car, for pretty much no one. Maybe they just made the crappiest car, to convince the enthusiasts that the upcoming gas one is better, therefore gas cars are better, there has to be some shady hidden agenda.
Love the Kyle and Gjeebs combo
Only ONE person @ Stellantis wanted this car & he finally got pushed out the door (Tavares). NO ONE @ Dodge wanted to design this car. NO ONE at Dodge wanted to build this car. NO ONE at any dealership wants to try to sell this car. And lastly, NO ONE is wanting to buy or drive this thing. It is obvious by the build quality, fit/finish, software design & all the other issues that it was rushed into production (a year or so too early) but it's finally performance numbers & options are years behind it's competitors. It's not a bad looking car, but it's way too big. Such a travesty. Thanx for ruining this brand, Carlos...
The best thing about the car is the trunk. The car only appeals to those in love with the Dodge brand and Charger model name - but really want it to be an EV instead. So, perhaps 3 people might be interested in this.
Kyle's last Stellantis review. 🙂
Isn't it a shame you can't be critical of a model without getting blacklisted? There are a thousand "influencers" just waiting to suck up to whatever scraps a manufacturer tosses out. It's going to get worse as companies continue to buy up the popular youtube channels so they guarantee the "proper" review.
Couldn't agree more. They will have to discount these at least $20k to get any off the lots. To think it's 1,800 lbs heavier than my 2024 M3P and so much more expensive it just blows my mind. They had so many cars to benchmark I can't fathom how they ended up with this.
At this point Stellantis would be better off selling the Jeep brand to GM and shutting down the rest of CDJR operations.
Jeep going from one crappy manufacturer to another is a lateral move.
EV people will choose a better EV, muscle car people will choose a V8 muscle car of the past.
Steelers fans are with ya Cleveland. This would be like moving our field off the river and putting it in Robinson. No thanks.
This is journalism. Kudos. Honest and forthright reporting that we need to see more of. Dodge should praise you for clearing the air. Truth matters.
That guy trying to ”teach” Kyle how to drift, so awkward 😅
My Rivian is insanely easy to drift and I don't know what I'm doing. The Charger just seems like a POS.
The guy was all antsy and excited, hoping the car wouldn't glitch out on him....... and it did 😂.
I'll just get an old Corvette C6 and enjoy my twisty road driving
Is a c6 reliable?
@@theederominus you should ask someone who has owned one and look at youtube videos.
So glad people are rejecting this stupid car
Jaguar is planning to kill their brand and base, whereas Dodge is successful killing their brand and base. Seriously can’t see how this will be anything but an expensive flop that might send the nail into coffin of Dodge/Ram/Jeep into bankruptcy.
Don't be sorry for stating honestly your views no matter the car! We highly appreciate your approach and if the carmakers don't, so be it, they should learn from their mistakes and improve the product, not to be crying likes babies/ (indirectly) paying for good reviews.
You gotta power cycle the whole car just to get it into drift mode. This car is a DISASTER 😂😂😂.