Some people you could give a million dollars to and they would complain it wasn't in the right bills. Gotta hate that pause record thing. Amazed at how the FL held up in comparison. I need to get me some of that stuff.
I am a frogluber, so this is very good news. I do have a product that I use for lubrication on items such as hinges, pad locks, bolts etc. It is called Zep 45, it comes in an aerosol can. Around my old shop we called it mechanic in a can. It completely dominates any other penetration oil I have ever used, including wd-40, liquid wrench and probably a dozen others. It can also be used on guns but I've been hesitant to try because I don't know anyone who has used it. I think it would make for a great test.
MilSpec Monkey's SHOT 2014 clip on Rand CLP had me interested only to rewatch this video and remember why I like Frog Lube soo much for corrosion resistance. Still don;t like how it clogs up when frozen but for coating the exterior parts from rust, pretty sweet! Nothing is 100% at both C, L, & P, something usually does one better.
It won't freeze up if parts only have a super light skin on them. I've tested it on my 1911 in -30 degree temps and it didn't skip a beat. It's all in the use.
Excellent job carrying out these tests, Patriot. I appreciate the effort you've put into them, and they seem plenty scientific and fair to me. More evidence that I'm making the right choice with the green stuff on all my guns, knives, tools.
Hey Ryan, I really appreciate your approval and positive feedback man! It's great to know when people find this stuff helpful and enjoyable and it gives me some encouragement to keep going at this youtube stuff! In fact, it's about time for another one of these so I'm probably going to look at the request list a pick the 2-3 most popular products mentioned an get a test rolling. This has been a popular series for me and thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
Patriot36 Really enjoyed the video, I was going to ask, since you're talking about doing another video could you test the Sentry Solutions line? I was about to try it on one of my guns just to see how it does. It's been around for a while but you don't hear that much about it for some reason. Supposedly it's used by the SEAL's, and quite a few other groups in the military. I was also gonna ask why you wouldn't like Frog Lube as a gun lube or the reservations you have about using it on guns? Thanks and thanks for the video.
sloblk8 Thanks man! It's the first time I've had a request for that product but I'll put it on the list. I've seen froglube gum up too many firearms in order for me to recommend it as a go to gun lube. The solution for this gumming side-effect seems to be using less according to die-hard proponents. The problem that I've found with this theory is that the product becomes gummy whether it's used liberally or sparingly. In other words, a 1/10 of a drop of FL has the same properties as a full drop of FL. If a full drop causes stickiness, a 1/10 of a drop will cause stickiness to a lesser extent. This is most evident in close tolerance assemblies. While it may not be noticed on a Mosin-Nagant, it's still noticed in the firing pin channel of a glock, XD, & M&P and most certainly evident with a tight slide to frame fit. Sig's, Beretta's and especially quality 1911's all can suffer. If it should happen to seep into the action of a revolver and sit in storage, there's a good chance that it won't operate next time you want it to. More so the case if it's had a trigger job or other tuning.
I've noticed the issue even when it hasn't been cold. The fan club say that you're supposed to completely dry it from every surface however, my argument is if it's so critical that it will bind the workings of my gun if I miss a drop, why would I use that product. Sometimes I'm fast and sloppy with my cleaning because I can't invest 30 min. per gun x however many I got dirty. Normal CLP's work just fine in my environment and I don't have to worry if I got a bit extra in some close tolerance mechanism.
I used FL and Rand in the past, but switched to M Pro 7 and Slip 2000.Both FL and Rand didn't have any issues, however...i just wanted to try something different. 7 and 2000 work very well. Great tests...thanks brother.
Thanks fr the testing. I'm a FrogLube user and love it. All the years growing up, Hoppe's 9 was all you could find. It always triggered my migraines from the caustic smell of it. I heard about FrogLube two or three years ago and haven't turned back. Now after a trip to the range, I clean clean my Wife's and my pistols with a few dry patches down the bore and a microfiber towel. A couble extremely light dabs of FrogLube paste on the rails with a q-tip and we're good to go again. There is no magic bullet, so to speak, but I will continue using FrogLube on all of our firearms. I have also treated my Kershaw Cryo folder that I carry daily clipped in my front pocket. Btw, the bad turn that the M-Pro 7 took after the rain was shocking to say the least.
I am seriously, seriously impressed with your baseline and near clinical thoroughness presented here. Additionally, what you've shown was a remarkable outcome, especially FOR Frog Lube. When you look deeper, FL is a 'treatment' vs a 'CLP' as the others. FL is designed to impregnate the metal surface and provide a super slick protectant akin to what we'd be relative to call a 'teflon' type mannerism. You also APPLIED it correctly for all baselines, including FL to have it heated up FIRST. FL is non-toxic, biodegradable and plant based with NO petroleum. It's effect as you showed it here solidifies it's make up as a serious contender. The creator of FL is a previous SEAL, Mr. Larry Lasky and it shows he really knows the product and what it has to deliver. I, personally have zero affiliation with Mr. Lasky, the Frog Lube brand or any subsidiary of its product line, just a retired Vet myself wanting superior protection for my firearms. And now, a believer of FL thanks to this vid. Job well done Sir.
Fantastic job on the test. I am very surprised and the results of the test. I thought MPro7 was going to better than FrogLube but the final results showed different. Very well done. Hope to see more of these tests.
Excellent, the testing you do is the best method and approach comparing to all other tests ever performed anywhere on the web. Liked and subscribed. May I suggest your next corrosion test to again include Frog Lube but this time include Corrosion X into the test and I think it will be another epic test and to let Frog Lube really run for its money against the most serious contender ever. And if you throw Eezox and Slip 2000 into equation this would be a truly sensational "contest".
I actually use all these products.FL and Rand for cleaning and lubrication of all the gun parts(been using both for three years) and the M-Pro 7 for cleaning inside the barrel.Over 5,000 through various pistols and not a single issue.As long as you follow the FL directions properly, it'll work just fine.At least in my case that is.It's been working, so if it's not broke, don't fix it.Great test!
Been using this product since it really first came out. AWESOME PRODUCT!!!!! No real complaints other than over time my 1911 can feel a tad bit sticky ( takes a long time for that to happen). It wipes off clean and makes cleaning my weapons easier every time I use it. Trolls are always going to say something about everything and people always drink the "Kool-Aid" but this stuff has always been able to speak for itself. If you want to really drive a point home to viewers you should do the same steps again ( just let your metal soak in a plastic tub with water and a whole bottle of salt) Give it 5 days and shock the trolls! Frog lube wins again.
Really well done and controlled. I'm getting some Frog Lube now ... and relegating the M Pro 7 to the internal workings of my rifles and pistols. Frog Lube will be used on the outer "show" parts because I don't like patinas. I was nervous that those kids would put their hands on the rotor in the following weeks, but there were no fingerprints showing. Again, well done!
Excellent video, thanks for taking the time to do it with the camera. I have recently purchased frog lube, as I've seen some other corrosion tests in which it fared well. I am in the process of conducting some of my own tests, but so far have not been able to replicate (only done two tests) the results of Frog Lube versus specifically, Eezox. That is the product I had previously been using. So far the Eezox has beaten the Frog Lube. I will check your other vids in case you've tested it (Eezox) against Frog Luble. Thanks again
+Duh Arrhea Here is the corrosion test I was trying to replicate, in the sense that I had the products narrowed downs to Eezox and FrogLube. You may be interested in it, as its quite comprehensive, comparing many products, and seems to have the same rigid test standards as you, AND seemingly had similar results as far as Frog Lube goes. forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/showthread.php/141077-Results-of-gun-care-product-evaluation
I love how you compromised with the naysayers by using another product, and still stuck to your guns by using the brake cleaner! This definitely deserves a sub lol!!!
haha! Yeah, it's always interesting dealing with an anonymous public, right! At least if when it's person to person someone would be slightly embarrassed when presented with something that should've been obvious. Thanks for jumping on board Chris. The support is much appreciated!
Thanks for information, hard work, and setting up time. I use mpro7 bore cleaner and clp for conditioning. I had stayed away from frog lupe thinking more hype but that will change now!
One word I think people should use when describing frog lube is "concentrated". I'm amazed how long it lasts vs something propelled by aerosol. A cost comparison would be excellent! I'm using the same bottle and have gone through three small cans of BFCLP. Great videos I subbed.
Patriot, excellent test. I have not looked at your other videos and will look now, but questions would be how possibly using salt spray would work? and have you compared this to militec1? I have used militec1 for over a decade and love it but heating helps it more than other oils. CLP was terrible in my use. And I may use that Mpro on my knives ;)
I have been using FrogLube for over a year on all my firearms. I have read a few CONS and a lot of PROS. I am curious as to your CONS as a firearm lube. My second choice would have been M-Pro7. Gunzilla third. After that video I am staying with FrogLube. I might change from FL Solvent but the FL Paste works well for my Tupperware firearms. GREAT JOB THX
Your tests have sold me on switching to FrogLube. However, I agree on point of not relying solely on that as an actual lubricant. What would you suggest? I was recommended Tetra grease for my Glock's frame rails.
My only issues with FL have been it getting sticky over time, probably due to it's protective elements. Rand is perhaps a little better in that regard. Generally speaking, all of these products are good and will keep a weapon in working order if used appropriately. I find RAND to be my favorite all around CLP , but FL is for sure better at corrosion duties and decent lube ability while RAND seems to split the difference and is a great GP lube and decent corrosion protection.
at the end of this video you mention you're not sure of FrogLube as a lubricant because of past experience. Can I ask what that experience was? I'm still trying to make a decision on the stuff. Thanks for the video!
Personally I use almost nothing except Eezox as a CLP. While it is not the best cleaner out there (takes longer) it has no issues in cold weather and based on serious rust testing (you can find it on line) nothing comes close to it. It deposits a dry lube into the metal so wiping it off after 5-10 miutes is best. A lot of pro shooters use it because we have to shoot matches regardless of weather and you don't really want to get rust on your $4K STI racegun. Have not used FrogLube myself but since I shoot matches 12 months of the year inweather as cold as the 20s I likely won't.
Thank you! I've had no trouble with MPro7, Militech, or even Mobil1 5-30W. I would use them all before I used FL as a firearms lube. I've just had too many issues with it. That stated, I've treated every knife & tool that I own with FL. As long as it doesn't have moving parts that rely on the force of spring pressure to move them, I love the stuff! :)
I read that Froglube, Seal1 and Tracklube are all the same stuff. Tracklube is a biodegradable roller-coaster track lubricant and corrosion preventative. When you think about the vast surface area of high carbon steel that has to be protected it isn't surprising that the application would require a pretty high-performance protectant. The question remains whether the friction reduction is there for the froglube/tracklube however. I think I'm going to use my Mobil 1 for lube and Froglube/Tracklube for storing my guns.
Nice video. I'm out in az too. When I used frog lube at a front sight course last dec. it gummed up my AR completely. As soon as I cleaned it out and replaced it with slip/ no issues. It was about 30 degrees when I shot and many others had the same prob. But for rust resistance this is good to see. Guess it's good I didn't throw all my frog lube out. Thanks!
Thanks! In my experience, FL is a problematic firearms lube and I've witnessed and recorded issues associated with FL both in low temperatures as well as "standard" temperatures. I'll be posting a video about these issues in the spring time. In the mean time, like you stated, it's a great corrosion inhibitor for non moving or loose tolerance ferrous metals! Thanks for watching man!
Nice test...Good Job......I am in the waiting stage of a similar test (waiting for rust!). I did not even think of a brake rotor...that's great. Thanks Cmax
You said it rained. I wonder how the products react to water. Specifically, the ability to penetrate the metal and not simply be washed away... Always like these videos. Hope you will test more products.
Yeah, it sprinkled a couple of times and rained half the night once. Only the Rand seems to provide minimal protection. Certainly, a portion of this test is a direct reflection upon "durability." When it comes right down to it, the end user only cares that their carbon steel piece of outdooring gear is protected as much as possible. How it does that is always interesting but probably not something I can easily test. Glad you like them and I'll try to get another one started soon!
I use M Pro 7 Gun Oil LPX and feel good about it. Truth is I'm not going to be leaving my gun out in the elements like this, and I think there is a little more to it than this. It would be interesting to see you do a test with a gun.
Great test! If I was going to war with my handgun, Froglube would be in my repertoire. However, for CCW I can't justify the cost of FL. It's great stuff, yet it's also high dollar stuff.
something I noticed as a CCW guy, is since Frog Lube is plant product I'm not ruining clothes with oil stains anymore. This stuff just washes out, also after the third time you clean your gun it doesn't really take much after that. I have used 4oz of Frog lube in 1 year for a mauser, a mosin, 2 savage bolt guns, a BCM AR15, a smith and Wesson shield, 2 Springfield XDms, a black powder rifle and 3 .22 rifles. and I shoot alot!!!!!!!
I just found your channel (and subscribed after the corrosion resistance series which is excellent) so forgive me as I have not yet got to go through all of your videos, but have you done videos on the lubricate and clean abilities of these products? If not, that would be excellent. I am sure you can come up with a great way to do a controlled test of cleaning capabilites and one for lubrication.
Here's my issue with Froglube. First off I don't go around looking for YT vids to bash. I comment you (yes, 4 yrs later) on your diligence in your test. However, I'm not really translating your testing protocol for lack of a better term, to my usage of these oils in my firearms. All that said, now to my experience. I initially got on the Froglube train. Stuff smelled great. Heck I wasn't sure whether to oil my rifles with it or rub it on my kid's chest when he had a cough. (lol at this point) My issue with FL came with some inclimate weather shooting. I'm not a fair weather shooter. I train in shitty WX (weather) and I train in shitting wx. In Texas that means when we get that strange occurrence of 12-15 ice storm/sleeting weather, I will continue to train, and in August/September when it's 114 I will still train. And of course all points in between - like when it's EXCEPTIONALLY nice out and the Bluebonnets are in full bloom with the Indian Paintbrushes I'm out training. So let's back up. Froglube and me. I lubricated my 12.5 DD SBR and a 10.3 (BA Hanson) and a 14.5 BA Hanson SS) All 3 guns had FL as their SOLE lubricant. This was early January and I had agreed to take a Venezuelan buddy of mine out. He's a good shooter. Went through SFAS, was selected and during the Q course, had to have a hip replaced.. Long story short, Uncle Same put him back on the block. Anyway he wanted to go shooting. I took him out and we started shooting. We were running drills from various distances, so at longer distances I was shooting my 14.5, which my 12. 5 and 10.3 rested on the tailgate (with Rhino lining) of my F-150 4x4. After running some medium to long range drills we moved up to the CQ range. At this point my Venezuelan buddy didn't want to get out of the truck. I left him there and started a CQ course of fire. Immediate I started having feeding issue. Now mind you, it's sleeting at this point and had been for a while. Instead of troubleshooting my 12,5, I grabbed my 10.3 which was underneath the 12.5 in a soft case (not zipped.) I start running into the same issues. As I looked into the issue, I discovered the Froglube, while "protecting" my BCG, was not LUBING my BCG. The Froglube in about 12-15 degree WX, with a pretty hard driving sleet, was nothing short of GUNK on my BCG. My weapons couldn't cycle because the Froglube had turned in to something like a gunky condiment. it was too thick, and not easily wiped off. I tried some more Froglube thinking it would counteract the gunky film on my BCG (and in my feed ramps) but it did not. The way it interacted with the cold weather and sleet, just continued to gunk up. Ultimately I pulled the BCG's cleaned them and coated with a light coat of Slip 2000. BCG back in both SBR's and ran drills until I was soaked and beyond frozen. Time to RTB. When I got back home and got my firearms out of the truck into my non-climate controlled shop (read as colder than a witches tit because I had no heat) the Froglube on my 14.5 was gunky and almost gelatinous. At that point I personally fired Froglube as my lube of choice and used Slip2000 and Machine Gunners oil from Tactical Springs down in Austin. Both performed well in inclimate weather. Since that time -which was about 3 years ago, I continue to use both, but my primary cleaning oil, especially since I run suppressed AR's almost all the time, is Rand. I'm not going to go into why I use Rand in this veritable book I've written here, but needless to say, it really is everything that Randand Kyle Lamb say it is. I'm writing this from my air conditioned shop, which has it's own laptop and work benches, office chairs and most importantly a fridge which contains some really good Barro Creek brew and some Blood and Honey from Revolver brewing co. I have not left Rand CLP behind, because I have been out training in the same shitty freezing weather and I have ran 1000 round training sessions at TacPro in Mingus Texas where it was no less than 112 outside air temp. Running a can, magnifying that heat well beyond 112, my choice of lubricants continues to hold strong. I still use Slip 2000, but on my suppressed BCG's they are always coated with Rand. It lubes well under intense heat. Doesn't turn into Aunt Gertrude's Jello Dish during really cold WX, and the rare occasion I do clean my weapons, my BCG still wipes down with an old T-Shirt. All the gunk and carbon from firing a lot of ammo. They both work, and they work well, even in tandem. in the video you alluded to the fact that Froglube "got sticky". Sticky in a firearm, for example the AR-15 is a bad thing. A very bad thing. i'd much rather deal with some rust and still have my weapon 100% functional than have a pretty shiny BCG that won't cycle because it feels like someone cleaned my BCG with Elmers Glue Paste. Because in extremely cold WX, Froglubes will crate far more problems The End.
nice test, would have liked to see how long the Mpro7 side would have stayed clear without the rain beating on it and washing it off. Frog lube is thicker, not a surprise that more of it stayed on the rotor protecting it during and after the rain. I don't think the MPRo7 got a fair shake on corrosion resistance since it was doing so good before the rain. You proved without a doubt that the thicker froglube will stay where you put it better than all the other ones.
Also forgot to say I have both Froglube & MPro7. Best products I've used. Only issue I had with FL was my reservations about puting a product on my firearms that smelled like that Metsal muscle soreness/heat rub cream!
I think we are seeing that the Frog Lub is pretty water resistant. With limited or no water, other then dew, they all hold up pretty well. But when it rained, clearly the Frog Lub held up better.
Great video. I go back and forth from Mil-Comm and froglube. Maybe you can do a test with those two. I live in Az. Would like to see what results you get. Again great video.
Great test. Thanks much. You mentioned that you have some reservations regarding use of Froglube as a firearms lubricant. Would you please go over them? As far as "removing the product" anytime you read the army manual for a gun (M16, M14, etc), they define "light coat" and "heavy coat" of lube. What you did here was a very heavy coat. A light coat would be removing essentially all of the product. Scrub as hard as you like, you will still leave a microscopic coating, and that is where the real corrosion resistance takes place. Your test was extremely severe, leaving the heavy coats on is what made it take 3 weeks. A light coat would have given the same results most likely, but would have wound up the chorus of the know-it-alls who never read the manual to a fever pitch.
Thank you! I've had a few issues with gumming and sticking, especially in the case of precision fit firearms. Initially we thought it was a temperature thing but even after putting guns in the freezer they didn't stick. Some other factor is at fault and I'm trying to get to the bottom of it.
Great test I use frog lube and hate the tacky Ness when stored. ...switching to ewl 2000 or m pro 7 lpx oil and a rust prevation birchwood casey ..... I wonder what's better frog lube (not for lube just rust barrier ) birchwood casey rust prevation
I use m pro 7 oil and cleaner on my guns. I was gonna switch to something else but it seems to hold up very well with fire arms. Thnks for this test gives me a good idea of what I should be using
What I wonder about is whether the specialty oils in spray cans are really much better than simple, cheap treatments. Motor oil rubbed on with a rag? Or a brushed on slurry of lithium bearing grease and diesel?
I've been a FrogLube user for two years. The brilliant thing about it is that you don't need to slather it on and coat your gun parts. The heat causes it to soak in, then you are supposed to WIPE IT ALL OFF. During firearm use, all the friction points will warm up and the FrogLube will "sweat" out of the metal and lube the gun like a light oil. You guys that are having cold condition issues are coating too heavily.
wow, FL wins again. Cool to see the repeatability of the result. I have the free sample of Rand that they offer through their web-site, but haven't tried it yet. I've been thinking about testing FL at the range now that it's winter, and seeing if I have any of the trouble others have mentioned. I don't remember any issues last winter, but I wasn't shooting much then.
I don't really have problems with it on glocks and AK's but it doesn't like guns with tight tolerances like 1911's. I've even seen it slow down the slide on beretta 92's and Sig's. I've been able to duplicate it a few times now.
When I run froglube in the winter up in Canada (-30 to -50 sometimes), I usually wipe in on all the surfaces, then wipe the part as "dry" as it will come with a rag. Doing this has stopped any issues I was having in super cold temps.
bellofello1 and that's pretty much what the directions on the FL web-site recommend. I tried FL at 15 degrees, and had light primer strikes, but it was my problem - I'd allowed FL to drain into the firing pin channel without cleaning it out.
The liquid is the same stuff as the paste. Just like a thinned out grease it does clean carbon but so does grease. The narrower temperature band is an entirely different issue. I will stick with the Montana Extreme grease -50F to 600F+
Great review - but I have to say, my favorite part was the FFWD with the funny voice. Great information along with a good laugh, what more do I want? Thanks for this, Patriot.
I started to write that you should have used acetone to remove the residue from the other cleaners, >but< if the products tested are worth their salt as cleaners, they should have taken care of that on their own. In fact, I wonder if the other cleanings were necessary for the test. Anyway, good test. Thanks for sharing. Merry Christmas.
Yeah, the name of the game, like any "scientific" method is consistency. You really have to even the field by cleaning. Thanks and Happy Christmas back at ya! :)
M-Pro 7 is a water-based NON-TOXIC cleaner (you don't need gloves to clean your firearm) and lubricant that attaches itself to the carbon left in your barrel and lifts it out when you wipe is away while leaving a fine (mono-molecular) film on the metal that inhibits further carbon build up. You got those strange markings after the rain because it is a water-based solution. M-Pro 7 was not designed to 100% block rust to cater for those who leave their firearm out in the rain for weeks on end. M-Pro 7 was designed to be a Non-Toxic cleaner and prevent the effect of harmful chemicals we produce on the environment. They took a fresh look at how gun chemicals 'clean' metal surfaces of firearms and went down to the microscopic level and discovered that the inside barrel surface is actually like a sponge. This was trapping carbon molecules, which would slowly build up over time even after traditional cleaning. M-Pro 7 binds to carbon residue and removes it at the molecular level - no other cleaner that I know of does this. So, if you don't want your firearm to rust, clean it regularly or store it in a dehumidifier enabled cabinet. If you want your barrel free of carbon residue (i.e. clean), use M-Pro 7. Otherwise, a very good test Patriot 36 - keep it coming!
I'm a distributor for FrogLube and a Gun Store owner and have been using/selling for a year now and will never use any other product for my guns!! Thanks for the Awesome awesome video!! Jeff @ SmokeWagonGuns
Great video! I've always been a little sceptical of each of these, especially FL, and I was completely blown away with your results. I'm not sure if you have tried Balistol or not but I'm curious as to how those results would be. I will check out more of your videos to see if I missed it. Thanks for the great video!
Eddie Grider Thanks a bunch Eddie! Comments like this are actually really encouraging to me. With regards to Balistol, other's have done similar or more thorough corrosion tests and the Balistol typically doesn't perform with the top products. This doesn't mean that it's not a "top" product in general, just that it doesn't provide as much corrosion resistance as some others. As a firearms lube, Froglube is ok, it's just not my favorite.
Thank you for the quick response! I think I'm like most people and I'm always trying different products on my firearms. Any suggestions on your favorite firearm lube? I'm bounce around at the moment between Balistol, M-Pro7, and Outers Tri-Lube. I've also heard it may be better to use a grease instead. I did some research and the guy from Barrett(Chris Barrett) Rifles suggests and uses Mil-Comm TW25 grease. Do you think that's just for Rifles or good for handguns as well? Sorry for so many questions but you seem like the right guy to ask. Thanks a bunch for your time.
I like the pro,but here lately I have been using a oil additive called pro long with great results,they also do friction test with it here on you tube if you want to check it out..if you get a chance can you do a test with the pro long product?thanks..
I just don't get why any shade tree tester wastes massive steel brake rotors instead of using welding sheet steel for a few pennies per test swatch. Sherwin-Williams does not build subdivisions of houses to test samples side by side. Products do not soak into metal - period. They volatilize, so the one with the least solvent ends up most coated. Should just apply the way normal people would use, ie liberally, re-applying if it looks dry.
This stuff looks incredible! im going to use it on all 4 of my brake rotors!
+Evil GST I do hope you are kidding.
+Evil GST ...that was hilarious. Tell us how much it extends your stopping distance by? ;)
OK, ya made me laugh.
Some people you could give a million dollars to and they would complain it wasn't in the right bills. Gotta hate that pause record thing. Amazed at how the FL held up in comparison. I need to get me some of that stuff.
I am a frogluber, so this is very good news. I do have a product that I use for lubrication on items such as hinges, pad locks, bolts etc. It is called Zep 45, it comes in an aerosol can. Around my old shop we called it mechanic in a can. It completely dominates any other penetration oil I have ever used, including wd-40, liquid wrench and probably a dozen others. It can also be used on guns but I've been hesitant to try because I don't know anyone who has used it. I think it would make for a great test.
MilSpec Monkey's SHOT 2014 clip on Rand CLP had me interested only to rewatch this video and remember why I like Frog Lube soo much for corrosion resistance. Still don;t like how it clogs up when frozen but for coating the exterior parts from rust, pretty sweet! Nothing is 100% at both C, L, & P, something usually does one better.
Dude, that's incredibly insightful and one of the most intelligent summaries I've seen to date. If I could +10 your comment, I would! :)
It won't freeze up if parts only have a super light skin on them. I've tested it on my 1911 in -30 degree temps and it didn't skip a beat. It's all in the use.
Been using FL on my AR for years. Never had any issues but always wondered about the rust inhibiting qualities. Thanks for settling that. Solid test.
You put a lot of effort into your tests and try to keep it fair; well done. Thx for the uploads!
Pretty extensive test my friend. I do enjoy your videos and appreciate the time you take to give your opinions on a variety of things. THANKS!
Excellent job carrying out these tests, Patriot. I appreciate the effort you've put into them, and they seem plenty scientific and fair to me. More evidence that I'm making the right choice with the green stuff on all my guns, knives, tools.
Hey Ryan, I really appreciate your approval and positive feedback man! It's great to know when people find this stuff helpful and enjoyable and it gives me some encouragement to keep going at this youtube stuff! In fact, it's about time for another one of these so I'm probably going to look at the request list a pick the 2-3 most popular products mentioned an get a test rolling. This has been a popular series for me and thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
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Really enjoyed the video, I was going to ask, since you're talking about doing another video could you test the Sentry Solutions line? I was about to try it on one of my guns just to see how it does. It's been around for a while but you don't hear that much about it for some reason. Supposedly it's used by the SEAL's, and quite a few other groups in the military.
I was also gonna ask why you wouldn't like Frog Lube as a gun lube or the reservations you have about using it on guns? Thanks and thanks for the video.
sloblk8 Thanks man! It's the first time I've had a request for that product but I'll put it on the list.
I've seen froglube gum up too many firearms in order for me to recommend it as a go to gun lube. The solution for this gumming side-effect seems to be using less according to die-hard proponents. The problem that I've found with this theory is that the product becomes gummy whether it's used liberally or sparingly. In other words, a 1/10 of a drop of FL has the same properties as a full drop of FL. If a full drop causes stickiness, a 1/10 of a drop will cause stickiness to a lesser extent. This is most evident in close tolerance assemblies. While it may not be noticed on a Mosin-Nagant, it's still noticed in the firing pin channel of a glock, XD, & M&P and most certainly evident with a tight slide to frame fit. Sig's, Beretta's and especially quality 1911's all can suffer. If it should happen to seep into the action of a revolver and sit in storage, there's a good chance that it won't operate next time you want it to. More so the case if it's had a trigger job or other tuning.
Patriot36 Did you mean it gums up fire arms in COLD WEATHER or in ALL weather ?
I've noticed the issue even when it hasn't been cold. The fan club say that you're supposed to completely dry it from every surface however, my argument is if it's so critical that it will bind the workings of my gun if I miss a drop, why would I use that product. Sometimes I'm fast and sloppy with my cleaning because I can't invest 30 min. per gun x however many I got dirty. Normal CLP's work just fine in my environment and I don't have to worry if I got a bit extra in some close tolerance mechanism.
I used FL and Rand in the past, but switched to M Pro 7 and Slip 2000.Both FL and Rand didn't have any issues, however...i just wanted to try something different. 7 and 2000 work very well. Great tests...thanks brother.
That was the best test I've seen so far when it comes to clps.I have both froglube and Mpro-7
I appreciate the encouragement, man! Thank you!
Thanks fr the testing. I'm a FrogLube user and love it. All the years growing up, Hoppe's 9 was all you could find. It always triggered my migraines from the caustic smell of it. I heard about FrogLube two or three years ago and haven't turned back. Now after a trip to the range, I clean clean my Wife's and my pistols with a few dry patches down the bore and a microfiber towel. A couble extremely light dabs of FrogLube paste on the rails with a q-tip and we're good to go again. There is no magic bullet, so to speak, but I will continue using FrogLube on all of our firearms. I have also treated my Kershaw Cryo folder that I carry daily clipped in my front pocket. Btw, the bad turn that the M-Pro 7 took after the rain was shocking to say the least.
Awesome test. Really makin me convinced on the frog lube. Appreciate the time and effort you take on these videos.
Thanks for taking the time to create such a scientific style experiment.
I am seriously, seriously impressed with your baseline and near clinical thoroughness presented here. Additionally, what you've shown was a remarkable outcome, especially FOR Frog Lube. When you look deeper, FL is a 'treatment' vs a 'CLP' as the others. FL is designed to impregnate the metal surface and provide a super slick protectant akin to what we'd be relative to call a 'teflon' type mannerism. You also APPLIED it correctly for all baselines, including FL to have it heated up FIRST. FL is non-toxic, biodegradable and plant based with NO petroleum. It's effect as you showed it here solidifies it's make up as a serious contender. The creator of FL is a previous SEAL, Mr. Larry Lasky and it shows he really knows the product and what it has to deliver. I, personally have zero affiliation with Mr. Lasky, the Frog Lube brand or any subsidiary of its product line, just a retired Vet myself wanting superior protection for my firearms. And now, a believer of FL thanks to this vid. Job well done Sir.
Great test, you should do the same test with Froglube and Rem Oil as Rem Oil is probably the most sold gun lube out there.
Excellent test!! Thanks for doing this one! Glad to see the FrogLube is working so well.
Thank you! I appreciate you watching and sharing man!
Fantastic job on the test. I am very surprised and the results of the test. I thought MPro7 was going to better than FrogLube but the final results showed different. Very well done. Hope to see more of these tests.
This video was extremely well done. thank you for making it and it has sealed the deal that I will be using Froglube.
Excellent, the testing you do is the best method and approach comparing to all other tests ever performed anywhere on the web. Liked and subscribed.
May I suggest your next corrosion test to again include Frog Lube but this time include Corrosion X into the test and I think it will be another epic test and to let Frog Lube really run for its money against the most serious contender ever. And if you throw Eezox and Slip 2000 into equation this would be a truly sensational "contest".
Thank you! Corrosion X, Eezox, slip2000, Froglube. I'll see what I can do. :)
I actually use all these products.FL and Rand for cleaning and lubrication of all the gun parts(been using both for three years) and the M-Pro 7 for cleaning inside the barrel.Over 5,000 through various pistols and not a single issue.As long as you follow the FL directions properly, it'll work just fine.At least in my case that is.It's been working, so if it's not broke, don't fix it.Great test!
Been using this product since it really first came out. AWESOME PRODUCT!!!!! No real complaints other than over time my 1911 can feel a tad bit sticky ( takes a long time for that to happen). It wipes off clean and makes cleaning my weapons easier every time I use it. Trolls are always going to say something about everything and people always drink the "Kool-Aid" but this stuff has always been able to speak for itself. If you want to really drive a point home to viewers you should do the same steps again ( just let your metal soak in a plastic tub with water and a whole bottle of salt) Give it 5 days and shock the trolls! Frog lube wins again.
Awesome test. Frog lube is clearly the winner. Thx!
Really well done and controlled. I'm getting some Frog Lube now ... and relegating the M Pro 7 to the internal workings of my rifles and pistols. Frog Lube will be used on the outer "show" parts because I don't like patinas. I was nervous that those kids would put their hands on the rotor in the following weeks, but there were no fingerprints showing. Again, well done!
Excellent video, thanks for taking the time to do it with the camera. I have recently purchased frog lube, as I've seen some other corrosion tests in which it fared well. I am in the process of conducting some of my own tests, but so far have not been able to replicate (only done two tests) the results of Frog Lube versus specifically, Eezox. That is the product I had previously been using. So far the Eezox has beaten the Frog Lube. I will check your other vids in case you've tested it (Eezox) against Frog Luble. Thanks again
+Duh Arrhea Here is the corrosion test I was trying to replicate, in the sense that I had the products narrowed downs to Eezox and FrogLube. You may be interested in it, as its quite comprehensive, comparing many products, and seems to have the same rigid test standards as you, AND seemingly had similar results as far as Frog Lube goes. forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/showthread.php/141077-Results-of-gun-care-product-evaluation
I love how you compromised with the naysayers by using another product, and still stuck to your guns by using the brake cleaner! This definitely deserves a sub lol!!!
haha! Yeah, it's always interesting dealing with an anonymous public, right! At least if when it's person to person someone would be slightly embarrassed when presented with something that should've been obvious.
Thanks for jumping on board Chris. The support is much appreciated!
I subscribed.
I'd like to see Frog Lube vs Slipstream Styx vs FireClean. Corrosion and Lubrication.
You did a meticulous job on this experiment 👍
Thanks for information, hard work, and setting up time. I use mpro7 bore cleaner and clp for conditioning. I had stayed away from frog lupe thinking more hype but that will change now!
For those who don't know Frog Lube has now removed or changed the ingredient that requires you to shake the liquid before use.
One word I think people should use when describing frog lube is "concentrated". I'm amazed how long it lasts vs something propelled by aerosol. A cost comparison would be excellent! I'm using the same bottle and have gone through three small cans of BFCLP. Great videos I subbed.
Best corrosion test I've seen with FL. Nice job!
Forget the haters Patriot. Great test and keep up the good work!
Excellent video, thank you for taking the time to do this video.
Awesome test!!! I am sold on frog lube. Buying some asap!! Thank you!!
Patriot, excellent test. I have not looked at your other videos and will look now, but questions would be how possibly using salt spray would work? and have you compared this to militec1? I have used militec1 for over a decade and love it but heating helps it more than other oils. CLP was terrible in my use. And I may use that Mpro on my knives ;)
I have been using FrogLube for over a year on all my firearms. I have read a few CONS and a lot of PROS. I am curious as to your CONS as a firearm lube. My second choice would have been M-Pro7. Gunzilla third. After that video I am staying with FrogLube. I might change from FL Solvent but the FL Paste works well for my Tupperware firearms. GREAT JOB THX
Rand CLP better at lubrication and removing carbon and not preventing rust, you should test Corrosion X ?
Your tests have sold me on switching to FrogLube. However, I agree on point of not relying solely on that as an actual lubricant. What would you suggest? I was recommended Tetra grease for my Glock's frame rails.
thanks for the test. what are your reservations about using FL as firearm lube?
I use rand and ewl. I really appreciate the effort you put into the video. Thank you much man
My only issues with FL have been it getting sticky over time, probably due to it's protective elements. Rand is perhaps a little better in that regard. Generally speaking, all of these products are good and will keep a weapon in working order if used appropriately. I find RAND to be my favorite all around CLP , but FL is for sure better at corrosion duties and decent lube ability while RAND seems to split the difference and is a great GP lube and decent corrosion protection.
great job i bought some froglube after seeing your previous tests. i am very pleased.
I'd like to see the paste vs ballistol. Great video man, and thanks for taking the time to make it for us.
at the end of this video you mention you're not sure of FrogLube as a lubricant because of past experience. Can I ask what that experience was? I'm still trying to make a decision on the stuff.
Thanks for the video!
Personally I use almost nothing except Eezox as a CLP. While it is not the best cleaner out there (takes longer) it has no issues in cold weather and based on serious rust testing (you can find it on line) nothing comes close to it. It deposits a dry lube into the metal so wiping it off after 5-10 miutes is best. A lot of pro shooters use it because we have to shoot matches regardless of weather and you don't really want to get rust on your $4K STI racegun. Have not used FrogLube myself but since I shoot matches 12 months of the year inweather as cold as the 20s I likely won't.
Well done video. Worth my time to watch it. Can't say that very often.
Great video! Since you've had some issues with the Froglube on firearms, would you recommend MPro7 as the "go to" lube for firearms?
Thank you! I've had no trouble with MPro7, Militech, or even Mobil1 5-30W. I would use them all before I used FL as a firearms lube. I've just had too many issues with it. That stated, I've treated every knife & tool that I own with FL. As long as it doesn't have moving parts that rely on the force of spring pressure to move them, I love the stuff! :)
next up, friction tests! Rand talks a lot about this on their web-site, sounds really good.
I wish that I had a scientific way of testing them without using industrial test equipment.
The rain might have washed of some of the product of the MPRO7, thank you for the info.
I read that Froglube, Seal1 and Tracklube are all the same stuff. Tracklube is a biodegradable roller-coaster track lubricant and corrosion preventative. When you think about the vast surface area of high carbon steel that has to be protected it isn't surprising that the application would require a pretty high-performance protectant.
The question remains whether the friction reduction is there for the froglube/tracklube however. I think I'm going to use my Mobil 1 for lube and Froglube/Tracklube for storing my guns.
Great vid you did a superb job can't wait for the next one ;)
Ok, I'm looking for the next 3 most popular, highly touted corrosion stoppers.
Nice video. I'm out in az too. When I used frog lube at a front sight course last dec. it gummed up my AR completely. As soon as I cleaned it out and replaced it with slip/ no issues. It was about 30 degrees when I shot and many others had the same prob. But for rust resistance this is good to see. Guess it's good I didn't throw all my frog lube out. Thanks!
Thanks! In my experience, FL is a problematic firearms lube and I've witnessed and recorded issues associated with FL both in low temperatures as well as "standard" temperatures. I'll be posting a video about these issues in the spring time. In the mean time, like you stated, it's a great corrosion inhibitor for non moving or loose tolerance ferrous metals! Thanks for watching man!
Nice test...Good Job......I am in the waiting stage of a similar test (waiting for rust!). I did not even think of a brake rotor...that's great. Thanks Cmax
Glad you liked it Cmax. Thanks for checking out the video, dude!
You said it rained. I wonder how the products react to water. Specifically, the ability to penetrate the metal and not simply be washed away... Always like these videos. Hope you will test more products.
Yeah, it sprinkled a couple of times and rained half the night once. Only the Rand seems to provide minimal protection. Certainly, a portion of this test is a direct reflection upon "durability." When it comes right down to it, the end user only cares that their carbon steel piece of outdooring gear is protected as much as possible. How it does that is always interesting but probably not something I can easily test. Glad you like them and I'll try to get another one started soon!
I use M Pro 7 Gun Oil LPX and feel good about it. Truth is I'm not going to be leaving my gun out in the elements like this, and I think there is a little more to it than this. It would be interesting to see you do a test with a gun.
Great test! If I was going to war with my handgun, Froglube would be in my repertoire. However, for CCW I can't justify the cost of FL. It's great stuff, yet it's also high dollar stuff.
something I noticed as a CCW guy, is since Frog Lube is plant product I'm not ruining clothes with oil stains anymore. This stuff just washes out, also after the third time you clean your gun it doesn't really take much after that. I have used 4oz of Frog lube in 1 year for a mauser, a mosin, 2 savage bolt guns, a BCM AR15, a smith and Wesson shield, 2 Springfield XDms, a black powder rifle and 3 .22 rifles.
and I shoot alot!!!!!!!
I just found your channel (and subscribed after the corrosion resistance series which is excellent) so forgive me as I have not yet got to go through all of your videos, but have you done videos on the lubricate and clean abilities of these products? If not, that would be excellent. I am sure you can come up with a great way to do a controlled test of cleaning capabilites and one for lubrication.
Here's my issue with Froglube. First off I don't go around looking for YT vids to bash. I comment you (yes, 4 yrs later) on your diligence in your test. However, I'm not really translating your testing protocol for lack of a better term, to my usage of these oils in my firearms. All that said, now to my experience. I initially got on the Froglube train. Stuff smelled great. Heck I wasn't sure whether to oil my rifles with it or rub it on my kid's chest when he had a cough. (lol at this point) My issue with FL came with some inclimate weather shooting. I'm not a fair weather shooter. I train in shitty WX (weather) and I train in shitting wx. In Texas that means when we get that strange occurrence of 12-15 ice storm/sleeting weather, I will continue to train, and in August/September when it's 114 I will still train. And of course all points in between - like when it's EXCEPTIONALLY nice out and the Bluebonnets are in full bloom with the Indian Paintbrushes I'm out training. So let's back up. Froglube and me. I lubricated my 12.5 DD SBR and a 10.3 (BA Hanson) and a 14.5 BA Hanson SS) All 3 guns had FL as their SOLE lubricant. This was early January and I had agreed to take a Venezuelan buddy of mine out. He's a good shooter. Went through SFAS, was selected and during the Q course, had to have a hip replaced.. Long story short, Uncle Same put him back on the block. Anyway he wanted to go shooting. I took him out and we started shooting. We were running drills from various distances, so at longer distances I was shooting my 14.5, which my 12. 5 and 10.3 rested on the tailgate (with Rhino lining) of my F-150 4x4. After running some medium to long range drills we moved up to the CQ range. At this point my Venezuelan buddy didn't want to get out of the truck. I left him there and started a CQ course of fire. Immediate I started having feeding issue. Now mind you, it's sleeting at this point and had been for a while. Instead of troubleshooting my 12,5, I grabbed my 10.3 which was underneath the 12.5 in a soft case (not zipped.) I start running into the same issues. As I looked into the issue, I discovered the Froglube, while "protecting" my BCG, was not LUBING my BCG. The Froglube in about 12-15 degree WX, with a pretty hard driving sleet, was nothing short of GUNK on my BCG. My weapons couldn't cycle because the Froglube had turned in to something like a gunky condiment. it was too thick, and not easily wiped off. I tried some more Froglube thinking it would counteract the gunky film on my BCG (and in my feed ramps) but it did not. The way it interacted with the cold weather and sleet, just continued to gunk up. Ultimately I pulled the BCG's cleaned them and coated with a light coat of Slip 2000. BCG back in both SBR's and ran drills until I was soaked and beyond frozen. Time to RTB. When I got back home and got my firearms out of the truck into my non-climate controlled shop (read as colder than a witches tit because I had no heat) the Froglube on my 14.5 was gunky and almost gelatinous. At that point I personally fired Froglube as my lube of choice and used Slip2000 and Machine Gunners oil from Tactical Springs down in Austin. Both performed well in inclimate weather. Since that time -which was about 3 years ago, I continue to use both, but my primary cleaning oil, especially since I run suppressed AR's almost all the time, is Rand. I'm not going to go into why I use Rand in this veritable book I've written here, but needless to say, it really is everything that Randand Kyle Lamb say it is. I'm writing this from my air conditioned shop, which has it's own laptop and work benches, office chairs and most importantly a fridge which contains some really good Barro Creek brew and some Blood and Honey from Revolver brewing co. I have not left Rand CLP behind, because I have been out training in the same shitty freezing weather and I have ran 1000 round training sessions at TacPro in Mingus Texas where it was no less than 112 outside air temp. Running a can, magnifying that heat well beyond 112, my choice of lubricants continues to hold strong. I still use Slip 2000, but on my suppressed BCG's they are always coated with Rand. It lubes well under intense heat. Doesn't turn into Aunt Gertrude's Jello Dish during really cold WX, and the rare occasion I do clean my weapons, my BCG still wipes down with an old T-Shirt. All the gunk and carbon from firing a lot of ammo. They both work, and they work well, even in tandem. in the video you alluded to the fact that Froglube "got sticky". Sticky in a firearm, for example the AR-15 is a bad thing. A very bad thing. i'd much rather deal with some rust and still have my weapon 100% functional than have a pretty shiny BCG that won't cycle because it feels like someone cleaned my BCG with Elmers Glue Paste. Because in extremely cold WX, Froglubes will crate far more problems
The End.
I have Frog Lube on all my weapons! No problems! Great video!!!
George Ballard Go Noles
nice test, would have liked to see how long the Mpro7 side would have stayed clear without the rain beating on it and washing it off. Frog lube is thicker, not a surprise that more of it stayed on the rotor protecting it during and after the rain. I don't think the MPRo7 got a fair shake on corrosion resistance since it was doing so good before the rain. You proved without a doubt that the thicker froglube will stay where you put it better than all the other ones.
Also forgot to say I have both Froglube & MPro7. Best products I've used. Only issue I had with FL was my reservations about puting a product on my firearms that smelled like that Metsal muscle soreness/heat rub cream!
I think we are seeing that the Frog Lub is pretty water resistant. With limited or no water, other then dew, they all hold up pretty well. But when it rained, clearly the Frog Lub held up better.
Thanks for taking the time with this vid 👍🏻
Great video. I go back and forth from Mil-Comm and froglube. Maybe you can do a test with those two. I live in Az. Would like to see what results you get. Again great video.
Great test. Thanks much. You mentioned that you have some reservations regarding use of Froglube as a firearms lubricant. Would you please go over them?
As far as "removing the product" anytime you read the army manual for a gun (M16, M14, etc), they define "light coat" and "heavy coat" of lube. What you did here was a very heavy coat. A light coat would be removing essentially all of the product. Scrub as hard as you like, you will still leave a microscopic coating, and that is where the real corrosion resistance takes place. Your test was extremely severe, leaving the heavy coats on is what made it take 3 weeks. A light coat would have given the same results most likely, but would have wound up the chorus of the know-it-alls who never read the manual to a fever pitch.
Thank you!
I've had a few issues with gumming and sticking, especially in the case of precision fit firearms. Initially we thought it was a temperature thing but even after putting guns in the freezer they didn't stick. Some other factor is at fault and I'm trying to get to the bottom of it.
Great test I use frog lube and hate the tacky Ness when stored. ...switching to ewl 2000 or m pro 7 lpx oil and a rust prevation birchwood casey ..... I wonder what's better frog lube (not for lube just rust barrier ) birchwood casey rust prevation
Thanks Jonathan! I'm still trying to find something better. So far, Frog Lube is holding top honors for corrosion resistance.
I use m pro 7 oil and cleaner on my guns. I was gonna switch to something else but it seems to hold up very well with fire arms. Thnks for this test gives me a good idea of what I should be using
I just watched a video on YT Weapon Shield vs Frog lube and this Weapon Shield stuff seems incredible as far as friction resistance.
What I wonder about is whether the specialty oils in spray cans are really much better than simple, cheap treatments. Motor oil rubbed on with a rag? Or a brushed on slurry of lithium bearing grease and diesel?
I've been a FrogLube user for two years. The brilliant thing about it is that you don't need to slather it on and coat your gun parts. The heat causes it to soak in, then you are supposed to WIPE IT ALL OFF. During firearm use, all the friction points will warm up and the FrogLube will "sweat" out of the metal and lube the gun like a light oil. You guys that are having cold condition issues are coating too heavily.
Frog lube seems to be a great product, but may have some cold weather thickening issues from what I've seen.
Yeah, I've noticed the same thing. Any firearm with tight tolerances seems to have issues with FL.
wow, FL wins again. Cool to see the repeatability of the result. I have the free sample of Rand that they offer through their web-site, but haven't tried it yet. I've been thinking about testing FL at the range now that it's winter, and seeing if I have any of the trouble others have mentioned. I don't remember any issues last winter, but I wasn't shooting much then.
I don't really have problems with it on glocks and AK's but it doesn't like guns with tight tolerances like 1911's. I've even seen it slow down the slide on beretta 92's and Sig's. I've been able to duplicate it a few times now.
When I run froglube in the winter up in Canada (-30 to -50 sometimes), I usually wipe in on all the surfaces, then wipe the part as "dry" as it will come with a rag. Doing this has stopped any issues I was having in super cold temps.
bellofello1 and that's pretty much what the directions on the FL web-site recommend. I tried FL at 15 degrees, and had light primer strikes, but it was my problem - I'd allowed FL to drain into the firing pin channel without cleaning it out.
The liquid is the same stuff as the paste. Just like a thinned out grease it does clean carbon but so does grease. The narrower temperature band is an entirely different issue. I will stick with the Montana Extreme grease -50F to 600F+
Great test. Seemed to be as fair as possible to all 3 products.
Thanks! Yeah, I thought it was a good result. The Rand didn't do so well but it seems like a good gun oil.
Great review - but I have to say, my favorite part was the FFWD with the funny voice. Great information along with a good laugh, what more do I want? Thanks for this, Patriot.
Nice video Patriot! Merry Christmas and God bless you! Looking forward to more videos in 2014.
Thanks Larry! Merry Christmas and God bless you also.
I'll be trying to get a good number of them posted for you!
I started to write that you should have used acetone to remove the residue from the other cleaners, >but< if the products tested are worth their salt as cleaners, they should have taken care of that on their own. In fact, I wonder if the other cleanings were necessary for the test. Anyway, good test. Thanks for sharing. Merry Christmas.
Yeah, the name of the game, like any "scientific" method is consistency. You really have to even the field by cleaning.
Thanks and Happy Christmas back at ya! :)
Great test! I'd love to see if all the hype of fire clean is true.
What kind of issues have you seen with frog lube as a weapon lube???
Thanks! Mostly sticking components and gummy parts, more so when cold.
Made a believer outa me! Good test!
Frog Lube reminds me a lot of Cosmoline. Great at preventing rust. Not something you want to use as a gun lube.
This video made me subscribe & will use froglube for sure! Thanks for doing this amazing videos. Keep them coming! God bless and more power!
Thanks for taking the time Glenn! I appreciate it man!
The only power I'm interested in is that which comes by His grace! :)
We appreciate your effort in doing this videos. Keep it up!
Great vid! Thank you for thoroughly testing this.
Just curious. What were the issues you had with the Frog and firearms?
M-Pro 7 is a water-based NON-TOXIC cleaner (you don't need gloves to clean your firearm) and lubricant that attaches itself to the carbon left in your barrel and lifts it out when you wipe is away while leaving a fine (mono-molecular) film on the metal that inhibits further carbon build up. You got those strange markings after the rain because it is a water-based solution. M-Pro 7 was not designed to 100% block rust to cater for those who leave their firearm out in the rain for weeks on end.
M-Pro 7 was designed to be a Non-Toxic cleaner and prevent the effect of harmful chemicals we produce on the environment. They took a fresh look at how gun chemicals 'clean' metal surfaces of firearms and went down to the microscopic level and discovered that the inside barrel surface is actually like a sponge. This was trapping carbon molecules, which would slowly build up over time even after traditional cleaning. M-Pro 7 binds to carbon residue and removes it at the molecular level - no other cleaner that I know of does this.
So, if you don't want your firearm to rust, clean it regularly or store it in a dehumidifier enabled cabinet. If you want your barrel free of carbon residue (i.e. clean), use M-Pro 7.
Otherwise, a very good test Patriot 36 - keep it coming!
I'm a distributor for FrogLube and a Gun Store owner and have been using/selling for a year now and will never use any other product for my guns!! Thanks for the Awesome awesome video!!
Jeff @ SmokeWagonGuns
Nice detailed job of testing....
The M-Pro7 I got was definitely clear colored. The Rand was golden. Good test though.
Another outstanding video Patriot!
Great video man, that test was conducted very well!
Thanks for testing. It helps us all.
Great video! I've always been a little sceptical of each of these, especially FL, and I was completely blown away with your results. I'm not sure if you have tried Balistol or not but I'm curious as to how those results would be. I will check out more of your videos to see if I missed it. Thanks for the great video!
Eddie Grider Thanks a bunch Eddie! Comments like this are actually really encouraging to me. With regards to Balistol, other's have done similar or more thorough corrosion tests and the Balistol typically doesn't perform with the top products. This doesn't mean that it's not a "top" product in general, just that it doesn't provide as much corrosion resistance as some others. As a firearms lube, Froglube is ok, it's just not my favorite.
Thank you for the quick response! I think I'm like most people and I'm always trying different products on my firearms. Any suggestions on your favorite firearm lube? I'm bounce around at the moment between Balistol, M-Pro7, and Outers Tri-Lube. I've also heard it may be better to use a grease instead. I did some research and the guy from Barrett(Chris Barrett) Rifles suggests and uses Mil-Comm TW25 grease. Do you think that's just for Rifles or good for handguns as well? Sorry for so many questions but you seem like the right guy to ask. Thanks a bunch for your time.
Wow that was a lot of work. Thank you for the data!!!
I've heard good reviews using Eezox. Be cool to see a comparison vs. froglube
Great video! To bad I can only click 'like' once! Your vids are always entertaining & the most informative. Keep it up please!
Great video. Fun and informative.
I like the pro,but here lately I have been using a oil additive called pro long with great results,they also do friction test with it here on you tube if you want to check it out..if you get a chance can you do a test with the pro long product?thanks..
I will buy it now, great job!
Thanks for another comparison test!!
I love these test great stuff.
Thanks Wingman!
I just don't get why any shade tree tester wastes massive steel brake rotors instead of using welding sheet steel for a few pennies per test swatch. Sherwin-Williams does not build subdivisions of houses to test samples side by side. Products do not soak into metal - period. They volatilize, so the one with the least solvent ends up most coated. Should just apply the way normal people would use, ie liberally, re-applying if it looks dry.