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Yup. Guy came from a humble background, was a scholar his whole life before being made a military commander against his will. Used his skill in administration and management to turn a pile of junk into something usable and crushed one of the largest rebellions in history. Surrenders power in spite of being in a position to take the throne himself. Man was virtuous, a role model from history and he got treated like shit…
Weird how Zeng was accused of being corrupt despite being humble and loyal. I guess the aftermath of exhausting and destructive civil war was too much for people to bare so they had to find an outlet for their frustration.
No, it's because he was competent and a threat to everyone else that he was treated as such. In a court of self serving, scheming, and disloyal opportunists the greatest threat is a righteous and competent competitor. There is nothing more dangerous in politics than being a nail that stucks out without the willingness to stick out.
Me when I read about the Taiping rebelion: > Oh this is goofy > So they actually believe him?? > HE DID WHAT? > HOW MANY DIED?! Truly, the goofiest and most tragic moment in history
Are you going to continue this series of series, perhaps with the Boxer Rebellion next? The century of humiliation is criminally underrated outside China.
🎉I feel so bad for Zeng Guofan he was smart enough to address fix the problems of army and knew that he was bad at warfer disbanded the army when they were no longer needed to prevent another rebellion and ramand loyal but was treated poorly
As the Qing retook a city they murdered anybody who was not wearing the hair style known as the Queue. Anybody with bangs or sideburns was immediately executed.
It made sense as anyone who cut their queue were almost definitely rebels as the cutting of the queue pretty much symbolizes their determination as you can’t grow back hair in a few days meaning there’s no turning back
They are not executed people who are not have queue, Zeng’s military just massacre people for vent outrage. There were many former taiping troops surrendered and joined Qing troops, like Ding ruchang, he was a commander of taiping troops, he surrendered to qing dynasty and finally become the admiral of Qing navy during first sino-Japanese war.
While Hong Tianguifu was captured, many other Taiping leaders were able to escape. The coolest one has got to be Hong Quanfu, one of Hong Xiuquan's relatives and Lord of Three Thousand Years. After escaping the collapse of the Taiping state in 1864, he worked in Hong Kong as a sailor. In the 1890s, he left sailing to take up traditional medicine and became a leader of the religious Tiandihui. In the 1900s, he was contacted by Xie Zantai, a Revive China Society member (along with Sun Yat-sen, who had since fled into exile following the failed First Guangzhou Uprising in 1895). There was going to be another rebellion in Guangzhou in 1903, and Xie Zantai wanted to use the Taiping memory to form an initial army of religious zealots in the name of overthrowing the Qing and establishing a constitutional monarchy -- the Great Mingshun Heavenly Kingdom, with Hong Quanfu as the General of Heaven and likely monarch. The rebellion was ousted by the people they had trusted to buy them weapons and so the actual rebellion was a rushed three-day flash in the pan. Hong Quanfu once again escaped via Singapore, and managed to return to Hong Kong a few years later, where he died.
Wow. Learned a lot in this series. It's interesting to consider how history could have been different had the rebellion succeeded. In the last video I learned that this new Chinese Christianity was on a path to effectively become a fourth major abrahamic religion. In this video we see that China could have started its modernization efforts much earlier and under a likely much more moderate and stable system. With that head start it's interesting to imagine how powerful China could have become earlier on.
I disagree. The Taipings were a deeply unstable political system, what with all the backstabbing we saw in the last video. Plus, even Rengan wanted to keep the autocratic theocracy, which would have held china back
@@TheMinepath It's hard to be worse than the Qing though. A group of foreigners oppressing you in your daily life who don't care about technological, economic or even quality of life progress. I mean, the penalty for not following the correct hairstyle was death. The penalty for everything was death really. There are few regimes in history that were worse than them at pretty much everything. Pol Pot is the only one I can think of as definitely worse.
@@alecshockowitz8385"Who don't care about economic or even quality of Life progress." Yeah, that's just factually not true. The Qing dynasty had a welfare net to sustain farmers that Lost their crops during floods or droughts. They also incentivized reclamation of new farmlands by farmers through loans which were used to pay for the travel, seeds and agricultural instruments. The policies of the Qing helped to Foster an enormous demographic growth. Just look up the chinese population at the start of the Qing dynasty, and the chinese population After two centuries of Qing rule.
The parallels between the Taipings and the Communists are striking. Two autocratic and revolutionary movements that promised a more egalitarian society. Yet they were polar opposites when it came to religion and tradition. It's almost like the Communist Party was the Heavenly Kingdom stripped of all its adornments.
Most communist ideas aren't unique to communism. Ideas like shared property ownership and wealth distribution have been around for ages. That's why it managed to take hold in so many agrarian nations during the 20th century. Those populations already agreed with those ideas, so they didn't need much convincing.
@@nbewarwe True. The precursor to communism was utopianism. The origins of which can be traced back to Plato's Republic and entered the public consciousness when Thomas More's Utopia was published.
It would seem that in the common lexicon, the Taiping Rebellion and the Heavenly Kingdom in particular have been ignored or ridiculed into little more than a bad joke about how "weird" or even "barbaric" Chinese history can be. I love these videos for making sense of the conflict, and in so doing busting myths about the Taiping Rebellion and the people involved in it. I for one feel as though I have a greater understanding and, more importantly, much greater respect for both sides, but the rebels especially.
Something that was not mentioned was the important role that Charles "Chinese" Gordon and the Ever Victorious Army played in the war. Their previous commander, American mercenary Frederick Townsend Ward, was previously part of William Walker's failed expedition to create an American slave state in Central America. There were a ton of crazy characters in that mercenary army. Filipinos, British, American, so on. What is also not mentioned is that Issachar Roberts, the American man who introduced Hong Xiuquan to Christianity, actually felt really bad about all the death and ended up visiting him in his Nanjing palace. He ended up being disgusted by the whole thing and fled.
How is it possible that the channel is still below 100k? I've been following for over a year and it deserves a fast rise in subs! Leaving a comment just for the algorithm
I believe the reason Zeng didn't take up arms and march into the capital was because he had seen this before happening with the Tang and An Lushan. And he wished to avoid yet another bloodbath. Its too bad that the alternative path had never been seen before, ending up in him being disgraced.
It’s too bad the Qing imperials took Zeng for granted. Imagine if he defected to the Taipings. The entire course of Chinese history may never have been the same.
Shi Dakai who left as said in the last video was captured and executed by death by a thousand cuts and did not scream or flinch once in the entire process.
Used up my 2 comments on the first part so I'll say the thing that I immediately thought of after the first part's intro here: these are exactly the kinds of stories of Asians studying themselves into nothingness that Russian propaganda absolutely loves to talk about when the topic is western degeneracy and eastern exceptionalism
Zeng Guofan forever made a trend for the Chinese provincial governors & viceroys of the late 19th and early 20th century: command an army staffed of your fellow provincial friends, valuable turncoats, and kinsmen. The Defeat of the Taiping Rebellion can be attributed to, besides a considerable significant defection and indirect globally-staffed Western intervention as Qing Ever Victorious mercenaries, a superior provincial army consisting of modern arms equipped provincial braves.
Wow, if the Taiping succeeded China would industrialize earlier and maybe the Japanese invasion and the continuation to the "years of humiliation" would stop there
Got to say this really says a ton about humanity, the Taiping sell and enforce one thing while doing the opposite. Zeng over there could have took over but was too good and ultimately suffered for it, very unfortunate that humanity really seems to only reward evil while punishing anything remotely noble.
its interesting to see how hong rengans dreams of a new china werent far off from the china today except today china is not ruled by a theocratic government
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Damn, The fate of zeng actually stung, he pulled a Cincinnatus and was treated like a traitor, The Qing was truly doomed to fail.
That's what happens in declining empires. The competent ones are viewed as threats and eliminated.
Yup. Guy came from a humble background, was a scholar his whole life before being made a military commander against his will. Used his skill in administration and management to turn a pile of junk into something usable and crushed one of the largest rebellions in history. Surrenders power in spite of being in a position to take the throne himself.
Man was virtuous, a role model from history and he got treated like shit…
He really should have revolted against the Manchus
* destined to lose - FTFY
@@hx5525like admiral yi from korea
Weird how Zeng was accused of being corrupt despite being humble and loyal. I guess the aftermath of exhausting and destructive civil war was too much for people to bare so they had to find an outlet for their frustration.
No, it's because he was competent and a threat to everyone else that he was treated as such. In a court of self serving, scheming, and disloyal opportunists the greatest threat is a righteous and competent competitor. There is nothing more dangerous in politics than being a nail that stucks out without the willingness to stick out.
No, he is too competent and popular and all dictators fear a coup with him as the leader.
Me when I read about the Taiping rebelion:
> Oh this is goofy
> So they actually believe him??
> HE DID WHAT?
> HOW MANY DIED?!
Truly, the goofiest and most tragic moment in history
It is honestly a miracle China survived the Taiping Rebellion. This was more of a localized apocalypse than anything you'd call a civil war.
Are you going to continue this series of series, perhaps with the Boxer Rebellion next?
The century of humiliation is criminally underrated outside China.
Honestly I'd love to hear about the boxer rebellion from both sides
@@Azraeltheangelofdeath Me too!
Even inside China it's not properly documented because of how bad it makes China look.
@@nathanseper8738I actually genuinely agree with you
🎉I feel so bad for Zeng Guofan he was smart enough to address fix the problems of army and knew that he was bad at warfer disbanded the army when they were no longer needed to prevent another rebellion and ramand loyal but was treated poorly
This proves the Qing were guaranteed to come crashing down!
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As the Qing retook a city they murdered anybody who was not wearing the hair style known as the Queue. Anybody with bangs or sideburns was immediately executed.
It made sense as anyone who cut their queue were almost definitely rebels as the cutting of the queue pretty much symbolizes their determination as you can’t grow back hair in a few days meaning there’s no turning back
They are not executed people who are not have queue, Zeng’s military just massacre people for vent outrage. There were many former taiping troops surrendered and joined Qing troops, like Ding ruchang, he was a commander of taiping troops, he surrendered to qing dynasty and finally become the admiral of Qing navy during first sino-Japanese war.
So early Hong Xiuquan is still taking his civil service exam
While Hong Tianguifu was captured, many other Taiping leaders were able to escape. The coolest one has got to be Hong Quanfu, one of Hong Xiuquan's relatives and Lord of Three Thousand Years. After escaping the collapse of the Taiping state in 1864, he worked in Hong Kong as a sailor. In the 1890s, he left sailing to take up traditional medicine and became a leader of the religious Tiandihui. In the 1900s, he was contacted by Xie Zantai, a Revive China Society member (along with Sun Yat-sen, who had since fled into exile following the failed First Guangzhou Uprising in 1895). There was going to be another rebellion in Guangzhou in 1903, and Xie Zantai wanted to use the Taiping memory to form an initial army of religious zealots in the name of overthrowing the Qing and establishing a constitutional monarchy -- the Great Mingshun Heavenly Kingdom, with Hong Quanfu as the General of Heaven and likely monarch.
The rebellion was ousted by the people they had trusted to buy them weapons and so the actual rebellion was a rushed three-day flash in the pan. Hong Quanfu once again escaped via Singapore, and managed to return to Hong Kong a few years later, where he died.
Wow. Learned a lot in this series. It's interesting to consider how history could have been different had the rebellion succeeded. In the last video I learned that this new Chinese Christianity was on a path to effectively become a fourth major abrahamic religion. In this video we see that China could have started its modernization efforts much earlier and under a likely much more moderate and stable system. With that head start it's interesting to imagine how powerful China could have become earlier on.
it would have probably collapsed lol
I disagree. The Taipings were a deeply unstable political system, what with all the backstabbing we saw in the last video. Plus, even Rengan wanted to keep the autocratic theocracy, which would have held china back
@@TheMinepath It's hard to be worse than the Qing though.
A group of foreigners oppressing you in your daily life who don't care about technological, economic or even quality of life progress.
I mean, the penalty for not following the correct hairstyle was death. The penalty for everything was death really.
There are few regimes in history that were worse than them at pretty much everything. Pol Pot is the only one I can think of as definitely worse.
@@alecshockowitz8385"Who don't care about economic or even quality of Life progress." Yeah, that's just factually not true. The Qing dynasty had a welfare net to sustain farmers that Lost their crops during floods or droughts. They also incentivized reclamation of new farmlands by farmers through loans which were used to pay for the travel, seeds and agricultural instruments. The policies of the Qing helped to Foster an enormous demographic growth. Just look up the chinese population at the start of the Qing dynasty, and the chinese population After two centuries of Qing rule.
@@marcogumiero8610 Ironically, that probably did more harm than good in the long run. China's biggest problem to this day is overpopulation.
The parallels between the Taipings and the Communists are striking. Two autocratic and revolutionary movements that promised a more egalitarian society. Yet they were polar opposites when it came to religion and tradition. It's almost like the Communist Party was the Heavenly Kingdom stripped of all its adornments.
I would almost say it is vise versa
Most communist ideas aren't unique to communism. Ideas like shared property ownership and wealth distribution have been around for ages. That's why it managed to take hold in so many agrarian nations during the 20th century. Those populations already agreed with those ideas, so they didn't need much convincing.
@@nbewarwe True. The precursor to communism was utopianism. The origins of which can be traced back to Plato's Republic and entered the public consciousness when Thomas More's Utopia was published.
it just goes to show some things are inevitable. history picks individuals to carry out the next act, you can't change it
Mao Zedong seemed to view himself as a God. Hence the Cultural Revolution.
17:45 when you're so powerful you can just walk through a civil war unharmed
It would seem that in the common lexicon, the Taiping Rebellion and the Heavenly Kingdom in particular have been ignored or ridiculed into little more than a bad joke about how "weird" or even "barbaric" Chinese history can be.
I love these videos for making sense of the conflict, and in so doing busting myths about the Taiping Rebellion and the people involved in it. I for one feel as though I have a greater understanding and, more importantly, much greater respect for both sides, but the rebels especially.
Same. Its very refreshing.
I actually genuinely agree with you @@robertortiz-wilson1588
Holy cow, I just found your channel and finished watching the first part. What a nice coincidence!
Something that was not mentioned was the important role that Charles "Chinese" Gordon and the Ever Victorious Army played in the war. Their previous commander, American mercenary Frederick Townsend Ward, was previously part of William Walker's failed expedition to create an American slave state in Central America. There were a ton of crazy characters in that mercenary army. Filipinos, British, American, so on. What is also not mentioned is that Issachar Roberts, the American man who introduced Hong Xiuquan to Christianity, actually felt really bad about all the death and ended up visiting him in his Nanjing palace. He ended up being disgusted by the whole thing and fled.
You're not the historian we deserve, you're the historian we need. Another fantastic video 😃
The production quality of the videos has dramatically increased, great work from you and your team.
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The Mormons but for China.
@@genericyoutubeaccount579Al least the Mormons did start a civil war haha
@@davisdelp8131 The Mormons did start the Utah War
@@genericyoutubeaccount579 no buchanan started the Utah war.
And just like any good fan made sequel it has a Mary Sue protagonist
How is it possible that the channel is still below 100k? I've been following for over a year and it deserves a fast rise in subs! Leaving a comment just for the algorithm
A video on the opening up of Japan and the Boshin war would be pretty cool i think
I believe the reason Zeng didn't take up arms and march into the capital was because he had seen this before happening with the Tang and An Lushan. And he wished to avoid yet another bloodbath. Its too bad that the alternative path had never been seen before, ending up in him being disgraced.
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Maybe you should make video about Meiji Restoration to compare Japan's modernisation with China. There are tons of funny and badass events there.
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Kudos to you for doing all this research bro !
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It’s too bad the Qing imperials took Zeng for granted. Imagine if he defected to the Taipings. The entire course of Chinese history may never have been the same.
Shi Dakai who left as said in the last video was captured and executed by death by a thousand cuts and did not scream or flinch once in the entire process.
When 55 days at Peking video happens
1:48
And this is the moment ladies and gentlemen Ezekiel has shown himself to be a based man
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@@Emel_unlegithey I'm just addressing the facts bro, I don't like the concept of ticking human biological bombs
No
@@GLASSMOSCOWANDBEIJINGI don’t get it
Never been so hyped for a sequel
So good vids keep of the quality
16:04 Cannibalism. Why does it always have to be cannibalism? Why China?
Well, when food runs out, everyone starts looking like a meal.
have you read water margin? litterally the second they get declared outlaws they start eating people
@@lorefox201 they on that grind
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How is this not thought in western schools?! You would say that 20 to 30 million dead should justify at least a chapter!
A lot of death
Little impact
it changed next to nothing
Same reason why the American Civil War isn't taught in Filipino schools, it's not relevant to us no matter how important the ACW was for the US.
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Amazing Video As per usual! Can't wait for your next project!
good video
great video love this series please do the boxer rebellion as well
You got to love that TW shogun 2 music.
Nice vid bro.
Nice
What was the outro music, loved the series by the way you’ve got a great channel and top-shelf content.
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Is it possible for china not to have a rebellion?
Nope
Nope. Never.
Same with France
Current China but how long is the question
@@mrs.shootingstar-garcia4799Soon. Until Emperor Xi's death or in more years to come.
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1:51 What did Ezekiel mean by this? Was he a fan of Andrew Jackson?
He’s a libertarian I think
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Please do boxer rebellion too!
Ok, you got a new subscriber. Top work mate.
Used up my 2 comments on the first part so I'll say the thing that I immediately thought of after the first part's intro here: these are exactly the kinds of stories of Asians studying themselves into nothingness that Russian propaganda absolutely loves to talk about when the topic is western degeneracy and eastern exceptionalism
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i like how the british gets involved in the conflict and instantly starts joining the qing in committing atrocities together
@@ctnke it's just the Anglo grind any excuse is good
Last time I was this early, China was still fighting the Xiongnu.
Are you going to make a video on the 1911 revolution/Xinhai revolution in China?
Here in the first hour!
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Zeng Guofan forever made a trend for the Chinese provincial governors & viceroys of the late 19th and early 20th century: command an army staffed of your fellow provincial friends, valuable turncoats, and kinsmen.
The Defeat of the Taiping Rebellion can be attributed to, besides a considerable significant defection and indirect globally-staffed Western intervention as Qing Ever Victorious mercenaries, a superior provincial army consisting of modern arms equipped provincial braves.
sounds like qing cope
Wow, if the Taiping succeeded China would industrialize earlier and maybe the Japanese invasion and the continuation to the "years of humiliation" would stop there
My dad and grandmother hometown in malaysia also named after these group name
Got to say this really says a ton about humanity, the Taiping sell and enforce one thing while doing the opposite. Zeng over there could have took over but was too good and ultimately suffered for it, very unfortunate that humanity really seems to only reward evil while punishing anything remotely noble.
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Boxer rebellion when?
What the fuck is the youtube algorithim nowadays came back for a second watch thought it'd blow up by now
I would love to know what would happend if they win. ✝️
It’s funny how America was waging its own civil war while all this shit was going down.
Dude only 27k? This is silly!
Wow the ended depressingly
I would love to read the material you used to create this serie, would it be possible to link it somewhere?
Sources and further reading are in the description and pinned comment.
"Establishing central bank, BOOOOO" I hear ye comrade😂😂😂
Could you do an episode on the pirate queen?
There’s so many instances the Qing could’ve survived yet did nothing
@@def3ndr887 qing moment
@CallMeEzekiel can you make a video about the warlord period in China?
Wow
The British and French: oh boy here I go interveining again
next content ~ End of Qing Dynasty
🎉 Gosh I love you videos
And I really wish westerners didn't intervene.
太平萬歲！天國萬歲！
19:08 of course they did
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4:90 - Is that song from Gekokujo?
Who would think that the Taiping Rebellion begun on the same year as The War on the Triple Alliance and American Civil War also started there
Just no, the taiping rebellion ended the same year as the war of the triple alliance’s start and the civil war overlapped them both by a bit.
WHO WAS HERE THE DAY BEFORE HE CHANGED THE THUMBNAIL?
its interesting to see how hong rengans dreams of a new china werent far off from the china today except today china is not ruled by a theocratic government
306: I like the little detail that america has the best hand but the british have the more obvious good hand
brit: pair of aces
america: straight:
that stellaris music in the background lool
I swear those four are an alliance of evil meddling with time like it’s no one’s business
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There's no link on the top right of my screen. Maybe because I'm watching on Android?
Out of all these interesting factions, the absolutely worst one won in the end.
🎉, well, things turned from 1-100 real quick
I think a great supplement to this would be the 4 part series by lions led by donkeys if anyone is interested.
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The Manchus missyreated the man whos aved their heads stayed loyal. No wonder they were soo hsted and their armies continued to lose wars
or Life in Qing Dynasty
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