Thanks for posting! The hood plunger method worked for me and I don't mind the small "A" on the dash above the fuel gauge. Such a pleasure to have the feature completely bypass without purchasing any additional hardware. Also I'm able to still use my remote start too
Thank you so much!!! I just bought a new used 2023 gladiator with only 4,000 miles on it and there’s no book. You just showed me how to turn off auto start / Stop. 🛑 I didn’t even know that’s what it was called. Appreciate it!
The info you expalined bout the Tazer helped me so much! Long story short I bought my JT in AUG 2024 and I did not know until I took it to the dealership that someone prior to me put the Tazer system in. and it messed w/ my radio. ( it always displayed temp in Celcius instead of Farinheight and could not change it no matter what, it drove me nuts. At first the dealership changed the radio for a new one, that did not fix it. 3 months go by jeep dealership doesn't know how to fix this. they thought it was the BCM (body control modual) so in the 3 months, the AUX battery died, I replaced it, and SOME HOW the radio is displaying the correct temp. and NO before you could not just goto settings and change it from Celcius to Farinheight that did not work.
I just purchased a 2023 Willys with the 3.6 and the auto start stop has not came on at all. Has mine already been turned off? I am afraid to turn it on . I don't want any problems. Also, will the aux battery still wear out if the feature remains off?
Have a 2020 Glad, If you don't reset the oil change timer and just keep the provided window sticker from say Jiffy Lube. it deactivates the stop and start. Funny thing is the dealer sends me the time to change oil anyway since they keep track of my milage remotely.which surprised me they can do that?
I've heard of pulling the fuze (number 42?) and disconnecting the little battery, which disables the start/stop without dash warning lights. I haven't tried it.
I disabled my auxiliary battery by pulling a fuse, can't remember which one, and disabling the ground wire. It will still start stop off the main battery unless you disable it another way but I don't have to worry about that freaking $200 Mopar shitty battery draining my main optima yellow top anymore. I also never wear my seat belt so I never really have to worry about it anyway.
I just pulled the fuse and removed the battery cable from the main battery and my dash light indicator is still on! The auto start stop isn’t working anymore but shouldn’t the error light go away? I have a 2019 Rubicon. 🤷♀️
I Live in the dessert and let me tell you sitting at a light and the engine goes off and since all the components for the Air-conditioner are NOT electric you only get hot air blowing. So, I have disabled the star-stop feature.
Just got this on dash screen Stop/Start battery charging ! Should I put my battery charger on the Auxiliary battery? And will it take my main battery also ? Any help would be appreciated ! Thanks !
Fyi not all auto start stops have a second battery. Ours is a rubicon 2021 with auto start and main battery shorted. Went to oreillys and bought both batteries pulled main one out followed a TH-cam video were the second battery was torn it apart supported to be under the fuse panel and there was a compartment but no second battery. Called dealer parts department and using the vin there was no second battery on my rubicon ever installed at the factory. No extra cables for it either. Saved me 100.00 bucks
Many are just disconnecting the aux battery ground cable that connects to the main battery negative terminal and just tape it up out of the way and removing fuse #43, This will disable the start / stop system and there will be no error codes or lights on the dash, Of course this isn't a practical solution if you still want functionality at some point of the start / stop system.
This is incorrect.... (btw, it's fuse #42, not 43...the description in the fuse box calls this F42- PCR CTRL FEED (ESS)* - If Equipped. On mine F43 is the PWR Outlet Cargo -BATT) You've described "deleting the Aux battery" (disconnecting the ground), and "bypassing the ESS" (auto start stop, removing the fuse). This just makes it so the Auto Stop/Start doesn't check the Aux battery, but instead just uses the main battery. It does NOT disable Stop/Start. The Aux battery doesn't actually even control the Start/Stop - it just keeps the accessories like AC /Radio / lights from cutting off when the engine turns off. It doesn't restart the Jeep. So, bypassing it just keeps the system from first checking the aux (which usually has the problem), and just uses the main battery. You are right about the lights or codes, the Avengers light won't be on the dash anymore, but unless you push the "A" button on the console to turn the Auto Stop/Start OFF, it will still work unless you disable it using one of these methods. Hope this helps.
i think just turning it off will not solve the problem long term, I always turned mine off by the switch, it was muscle memory, and three years in aux battery dead. I love that little add on but long term I dont think its going to work. Plus, just not sure about leaving a dead LI battery in the vehicle, those things get unstable over time
So my battery died he removed the line that connected to the aux battery bought a new battery main one. The start stop still worked. So he removed the plunger reattached the aux cable then removed the plun ger removed Battery died. Not sure why. Need help
The only thing I would add to the video is to either secure the box of the stop/start eliminator with a zip strap, or to wrap it with some kind of foam or electrical tape. It looks like it would rattle against that support piece. And I hate rattles
I added 1.5" leveling pucks to the front. It seems the gladiator thinks I'm now on an uneven surface and refuses to use auto stop/start. AND no annoying lights!
2023 Wrangler Rubicon, I believe there must be a sequence that activates the feature… (I haven’t figured it out yet) as I Normally enter my Jeep, start & drive off, Auto start/stop seldom activates…. My jeep mostly never has the feature activated… I don’t know why, but I’m glad something may not be working properly ;)
No the main battery only starts the Jeep. Tha aux battery is used to assist the main in running accessories while the engine is off in a stop/start situation.
I don’t own a Rubicon, but I do have a Jeep Cherokee Latitude and that auto start on off has been nothing but a headache! I believe that theory that the feature drains the extra battery, but now I’m also starting to believe that it puts a strain on the starter. My warranty just expired 1,000 miles ago and guess what?? I have to replace that extra battery PLUS the starter, and it’s not cheap!! 😡 I’m just going to turn it off on the dashboard from here on out
@@MaybeOhBaby I wish I could provide you with a 100% answer but, you’d have to have it diagnosed to know for sure what the cause is. I do know that the auxiliary battery can cause it to stop when it dies so that’s a possible. Each vehicle could be different so I’d have someone look at it to make sure you’re not wasting time and/money fixing it.
Pushing the button just turns it off when driving & it doesn't help the issue , which is the small bat. Draining and your remote start not working so eliminating it is the way to go !!! Won't have to worry about the small bat. And remote start will continue to work .. also the seat belt thing does work .I personally like Jscan better not only cause it's way cheaper but I find it does about everything tazer does but I believe tazer might have one or two brand specific things it does. All in it cost me less than 80 bucks to use Jscan & I can buy more vins where tazer is vehicle specific. Oh if you read the comments ( i hope so ) in your description you have the tazer link in for both tazer & Jscan not Jscan's link lol
I don't own an 'auto start stop' vehicle, but I had a thought about the (VERY STUPID) idea with the seatbelt. Im not sure of the sensing method for seatbelt connection, but if it completes an electrical circuit, you could try painting the metal insert with a non-conductive coating. (It seems unlikely though, as I doubt there is a conductor running through the actual belt, but that would be the best design to make it more difficult for people to bypass. Just a thought(VERY STUPID, lol)... Can, or do, people buy seatbelt inserts, so they can fool the car into believing the belt is connected?
I don’t know why they put the stop start in cars. It kills your starter and is bad for the engine when you stop all the oil flows to the bottom of the engine and then when the car starts again oil is introduced back to the top of the engine. This will definitely wear out your engine faster instead of letting the oil circulate without interruption.
I do. It's called Democrats. They, with their green energy bull, cause huge problems for people who want normal operating cars that don't want things choked down or so convoluted they don't last.
I don't know but I never met anyone who wanted that "feature". The jeep was at its best 10 years ago before all the "smart" stuff was forced onto consumers. Half the price too.
Really? I’m now getting the auto start error on my dash which I assume means that my aux battery is dying….again!! I have 34k miles and have already replaced both batteries once on my 2019. I want a permanent fix that won’t drain the main battery! 🫤
Just remove the stupid damned battery for the start/stop, tape of the hot (really well) and jumper the N1 and N2 posts up at the (by) the fuse box, the fuse block, done! Stupid worthless feature. Just look this up: Jeep 3.6L Aux Battery Bypass
Excellent… connecting N1 N2 post was the charm.. Delete red fuse that control start stop… and disconnect/ remove the aux battery tape up negative and finally connect the positive of aux to the main battery…. Job done for my 2020 JT gladiator
Jscan does not cost this much. My whole setup was 50 bucks tops. License is what 20 maybe? Much cheaper than that tazer garbage, and you don't have to leave it plugged in. It's a superior method, basically what a dealer would do hooking up their gear and making changes to the on board systems that last.
I've owned many Fords. The Mojave is My first Jeep. Never had this issue with my Fords. Granted none of them have this feature. I don't think it's a manufacturer problem. I think it's a design flaw, or maybe they government wants to sell more batteries?🤔
you need to remove the aux battery from the circuit or else it will ultimately drain the main battery. They are wired in parallel so they feed off each other - if either one starts to fail the other one will go with it. Best to REMOVE the negative from the AUX battery from the main - tape it up and tuck it away so the alternator no longer charges it and remove the ESS fuse from the fusebox. Then Auto start stop is off, no errors on dash and you are running on the primary battery only. MUCH simpler. I do HATE Jeep for this nonsense
If you've not tested Method #3 (not using the driver's seatbelt), why include it in the video and the "5 ways..." title? This is doubly relevant since you then immediately attempt to distance yourself from the very suggestion you just presented. Give some thought to editing the video title and its content, lest you get caught up in any legal action by a viewer who follows your instruction and comes to harm, and then circles back to this presentation. Your channel has practical, accessible content for the home DIYer. 👍It'd be unfortunate if it was adversely affected by liability issues.
It is not a gimmick to charge people more money, it is to reduce the overall emissions for the manufacture allow and the manufacture to meet federal mandated emissions goals.
@@AstroNerd well if you know about the federal stuff is about to hogwash wash that does not save nothing it actually burns more because it's starting back up if you want to save money on gas get a true hybrid all this La La Land of saving the environment is actually destroying environment at a high rate we need to stop living in Fairy Tail land going back to the Earth and live off the planet that is being green instead of destroying the planet
Actually, the government is making the car companies do it by the fuel economy standards. My Wrangler has it and I had a 2017 Toyota Highlander with it also. I don't like it and figure the money I save on gas will be wasted on the cost of a replacement starter one day. So, I push the darn button each time I drive.
Thanks for posting! The hood plunger method worked for me and I don't mind the small "A" on the dash above the fuel gauge. Such a pleasure to have the feature completely bypass without purchasing any additional hardware. Also I'm able to still use my remote start too
Glad you were able to find something that worked for you. Appreciate you stopping by and Thank You for the Super Thanks!
Love my Tazer. I bought because I can reprogram the tire size and also the rearend which I have regeared
Thank you so much!!! I just bought a new used 2023 gladiator with only 4,000 miles on it and there’s no book. You just showed me how to turn off auto start / Stop. 🛑 I didn’t even know that’s what it was called. Appreciate it!
Does the J-Scan and Tazer void your factory warrranty?
Will this keep the aux battery from draining the main battery?
The info you expalined bout the Tazer helped me so much! Long story short I bought my JT in AUG 2024 and I did not know until I took it to the dealership that someone prior to me put the Tazer system in. and it messed w/ my radio. ( it always displayed temp in Celcius instead of Farinheight and could not change it no matter what, it drove me nuts. At first the dealership changed the radio for a new one, that did not fix it. 3 months go by jeep dealership doesn't know how to fix this. they thought it was the BCM (body control modual) so in the 3 months, the AUX battery died, I replaced it, and SOME HOW the radio is displaying the correct temp. and NO before you could not just goto settings and change it from Celcius to Farinheight that did not work.
Works on the 2024 rubicon?😊
You can also jumper the trailer plug to simulate a trailer and it will shut off. Free
Still use the Auto Start Stop Eliminator? if so still works?
I just purchased a 2023 Willys with the 3.6 and the auto start stop has not came on at all. Has mine already been turned off? I am afraid to turn it on . I don't want any problems. Also, will the aux battery still wear out if the feature remains off?
I watched your videos how is that gadget you installed to stop the on & off on your jeep going ( Any troubles
Have a 2020 Glad, If you don't reset the oil change timer and just keep the provided window sticker from say Jiffy Lube. it deactivates the stop and start. Funny thing is the dealer sends me the time to change oil anyway since they keep track of my milage remotely.which surprised me they can do that?
I've heard of pulling the fuze (number 42?) and disconnecting the little battery, which disables the start/stop without dash warning lights. I haven't tried it.
Didn't work for me
I disabled my auxiliary battery by pulling a fuse, can't remember which one, and disabling the ground wire. It will still start stop off the main battery unless you disable it another way but I don't have to worry about that freaking $200 Mopar shitty battery draining my main optima yellow top anymore.
I also never wear my seat belt so I never really have to worry about it anyway.
Where was the video location shot at ? Just curious!
I just pulled the fuse and removed the battery cable from the main battery and my dash light indicator is still on! The auto start stop isn’t working anymore but shouldn’t the error light go away? I have a 2019 Rubicon. 🤷♀️
Have you tried the 7 pin connection only plugged in, i heard that works?
What town are in ? Just curious? Colorado Springs ?
Doesn’t look like he ever answers any questions
I Live in the dessert and let me tell you sitting at a light and the engine goes off and since all the components for the Air-conditioner are NOT electric you only get hot air blowing. So, I have disabled the star-stop feature.
The auto stop will not engage is the ac is running and the cabin temp is above the thermostat setting. At least not on my 2024.
@@srcastic8764 mine shut off that’s always how I remembered to turn it off because I would start sweating! I have a 2019. 🫤
Just got this on dash screen Stop/Start battery charging ! Should I put my battery charger on the Auxiliary battery? And will it take my main battery also ? Any help would be appreciated ! Thanks !
I never buckle up, solves the crappy auto /stop
It will also solve you ever worrying about it, or anything else, after a bad accident.
Unlike the start stop you actually need a seatbelt
How do you stand the nonstop screaming at you to put your seatbelt on. I can't stand the noise.
@reallymentalpig1173 Naa, they only made it a law so they can sue you in the event of a crash.
Driving a Jeep, and not wearing seat belt, GENIUS!!!
HINT: ROLL OVER, ROOF.......
Thanks for the info, great camera work 🔥
Fyi not all auto start stops have a second battery. Ours is a rubicon 2021 with auto start and main battery shorted. Went to oreillys and bought both batteries pulled main one out followed a TH-cam video were the second battery was torn it apart supported to be under the fuse panel and there was a compartment but no second battery. Called dealer parts department and using the vin there was no second battery on my rubicon ever installed at the factory. No extra cables for it either. Saved me 100.00 bucks
I have a 2021 Jeep Wrangler base model, and it also did not have the aux battery
So I returned the aux battery back to auto zone for full refund.
Many are just disconnecting the aux battery ground cable that connects to the main battery negative terminal and just tape it up out of the way and removing fuse #43,
This will disable the start / stop system and there will be no error codes or lights on the dash,
Of course this isn't a practical solution if you still want functionality at some point of the start / stop system.
This is incorrect.... (btw, it's fuse #42, not 43...the description in the fuse box calls this F42- PCR CTRL FEED (ESS)* - If Equipped. On mine F43 is the PWR Outlet Cargo -BATT) You've described "deleting the Aux battery" (disconnecting the ground), and "bypassing the ESS" (auto start stop, removing the fuse). This just makes it so the Auto Stop/Start doesn't check the Aux battery, but instead just uses the main battery. It does NOT disable Stop/Start. The Aux battery doesn't actually even control the Start/Stop - it just keeps the accessories like AC /Radio / lights from cutting off when the engine turns off. It doesn't restart the Jeep. So, bypassing it just keeps the system from first checking the aux (which usually has the problem), and just uses the main battery. You are right about the lights or codes, the Avengers light won't be on the dash anymore, but unless you push the "A" button on the console to turn the Auto Stop/Start OFF, it will still work unless you disable it using one of these methods. Hope this helps.
@@jimw4041I removed the 42fuse. Took out the aux battery. Ran the aux positive wires to the main battery. That by passes the aux battery.
I pressed the button on mine and it doesn't do anything.😢
Can’t you just tape the hood sensors down and zip tie them off to the side?
He said you can remove and tie down to the side, but you do not want the
hood sensor compressed therefore taping it down is not what you should do.
That would do the same thing as the hood already does, defeating the purpose entirely
i think just turning it off will not solve the problem long term, I always turned mine off by the switch, it was muscle memory, and three years in aux battery dead. I love that little add on but long term I dont think its going to work. Plus, just not sure about leaving a dead LI battery in the vehicle, those things get unstable over time
Anyone ever tell you that you look like James Spader?
Probably not because he doesn’t. 😂
The aux battery is not a lithium. It is a an AGM battery. Fyi
So my battery died he removed the line that connected to the aux battery bought a new battery main one. The start stop still worked. So he removed the plunger reattached the aux cable then removed the plun ger removed Battery died. Not sure why. Need help
The only thing I would add to the video is to either secure the box of the stop/start eliminator with a zip strap, or to wrap it with some kind of foam or electrical tape. It looks like it would rattle against that support piece. And I hate rattles
I added 1.5" leveling pucks to the front. It seems the gladiator thinks I'm now on an uneven surface and refuses to use auto stop/start. AND no annoying lights!
Thank you for the info and sharing links.
2023 Wrangler Rubicon, I believe there must be a sequence that activates the feature… (I haven’t figured it out yet) as I Normally enter my Jeep, start & drive off, Auto start/stop seldom activates…. My jeep mostly never has the feature activated… I don’t know why, but I’m glad something may not be working properly ;)
Your aux battery is likely dead. Check the status of the start/ stop on the information screen.
If theaux battery was dead, the Jeep wouldn’t start.
No the main battery only starts the Jeep. Tha aux battery is used to assist the main in running accessories while the engine is off in a stop/start situation.
@@ernesttaylor967 And of course if it's an eTorque there is no aux battery. Just the 12V and the 48V .
I don’t own a Rubicon, but I do have a Jeep Cherokee Latitude and that auto start on off has been nothing but a headache! I believe that theory that the feature drains the extra battery, but now I’m also starting to believe that it puts a strain on the starter. My warranty just expired 1,000 miles ago and guess what?? I have to replace that extra battery PLUS the starter, and it’s not cheap!! 😡 I’m just going to turn it off on the dashboard from here on out
Mine suddenly stopped working. Why? Please help
@@MaybeOhBaby I wish I could provide you with a 100% answer but, you’d have to have it diagnosed to know for sure what the cause is. I do know that the auxiliary battery can cause it to stop when it dies so that’s a possible. Each vehicle could be different so I’d have someone look at it to make sure you’re not wasting time and/money fixing it.
Pushing the button just turns it off when driving & it doesn't help the issue , which is the small bat. Draining and your remote start not working so eliminating it is the way to go !!! Won't have to worry about the small bat. And remote start will continue to work .. also the seat belt thing does work .I personally like Jscan better not only cause it's way cheaper but I find it does about everything tazer does but I believe tazer might have one or two brand specific things it does. All in it cost me less than 80 bucks to use Jscan & I can buy more vins where tazer is vehicle specific. Oh if you read the comments ( i hope so ) in your description you have the tazer link in for both tazer & Jscan not Jscan's link lol
Thanks for sharing.
I don't own an 'auto start stop' vehicle, but I had a thought about the (VERY STUPID) idea with the seatbelt.
Im not sure of the sensing method for seatbelt connection, but if it completes an electrical circuit, you could try painting the metal insert with a non-conductive coating. (It seems unlikely though, as I doubt there is a conductor running through the actual belt, but that would be the best design to make it more difficult for people to bypass.
Just a thought(VERY STUPID, lol)... Can, or do, people buy seatbelt inserts, so they can fool the car into believing the belt is connected?
I don’t know why they put the stop start in cars. It kills your starter and is bad for the engine when you stop all the oil flows to the bottom of the engine and then when the car starts again oil is introduced back to the top of the engine. This will definitely wear out your engine faster instead of letting the oil circulate without interruption.
I do. It's called Democrats. They, with their green energy bull, cause huge problems for people who want normal operating cars that don't want things choked down or so convoluted they don't last.
My opinion: this is EXACTLY WHY they do it.
I don't know but I never met anyone who wanted that "feature". The jeep was at its best 10 years ago before all the "smart" stuff was forced onto consumers. Half the price too.
does not stop dead battery killing your main battery
Really? I’m now getting the auto start error on my dash which I assume means that my aux battery is dying….again!! I have 34k miles and have already replaced both batteries once on my 2019. I want a permanent fix that won’t drain the main battery! 🫤
@windrider5845 Just got one on my 2021 and have 23k on it. I was hoping this was the problem solver.
Aren’t these on off models bad for the jeep?
Just remove the stupid damned battery for the start/stop, tape of the hot (really well) and jumper the N1 and N2 posts up at the (by) the fuse box, the fuse block, done! Stupid worthless feature. Just look this up: Jeep 3.6L Aux Battery Bypass
Excellent… connecting N1 N2 post was the charm.. Delete red fuse that control start stop… and disconnect/ remove the aux battery tape up negative and finally connect the positive of aux to the main battery…. Job done for my 2020 JT gladiator
Ps: putting. Fuse between n1 and. The N2 pole is dangerous and not needed… lost a 30amp and 40amp fuse… not needed.
Just curious if you have to take the Jeep in for service and they noticed what you did would it void your warranty ? Thanks
Jscan does not cost this much. My whole setup was 50 bucks tops. License is what 20 maybe? Much cheaper than that tazer garbage, and you don't have to leave it plugged in. It's a superior method, basically what a dealer would do hooking up their gear and making changes to the on board systems that last.
So they make a product,we have to fix right away- just like ford- nitwtz
many other auto makers, foreign and domestic have it also.
blame the government, it is their restriction that brought it on.
I've owned many Fords. The Mojave is My first Jeep. Never had this issue with my Fords. Granted none of them have this feature. I don't think it's a manufacturer problem. I think it's a design flaw, or maybe they government wants to sell more batteries?🤔
Welp looks like I’m just not gunna wears my seatbelt no more
Cant U just hit the button?
you need to remove the aux battery from the circuit or else it will ultimately drain the main battery. They are wired in parallel so they feed off each other - if either one starts to fail the other one will go with it. Best to REMOVE the negative from the AUX battery from the main - tape it up and tuck it away so the alternator no longer charges it and remove the ESS fuse from the fusebox. Then Auto start stop is off, no errors on dash and you are running on the primary battery only. MUCH simpler. I do HATE Jeep for this nonsense
If you've not tested Method #3 (not using the driver's seatbelt), why include it in the video and the "5 ways..." title?
This is doubly relevant since you then immediately attempt to distance yourself from the very suggestion you just presented.
Give some thought to editing the video title and its content, lest you get caught up in any legal action by a viewer who follows your instruction and comes to harm, and then circles back to this presentation.
Your channel has practical, accessible content for the home DIYer. 👍It'd be unfortunate if it was adversely affected by liability issues.
Maybe I'm crazy but I like the auto start/stop 🤷♂️
Sooooo you're the engineer the rest of us have been looking for?🤨
It's called the auto start and stop is just a gimmick to charge people more money
@@justharkins9247 what are you even talking about I don't understand liberal
It is not a gimmick to charge people more money, it is to reduce the overall emissions for the manufacture allow and the manufacture to meet federal mandated emissions goals.
@@AstroNerd well if you know about the federal stuff is about to hogwash wash that does not save nothing it actually burns more because it's starting back up if you want to save money on gas get a true hybrid all this La La Land of saving the environment is actually destroying environment at a high rate we need to stop living in Fairy Tail land going back to the Earth and live off the planet that is being green instead of destroying the planet
Actually, the government is making the car companies do it by the fuel economy standards. My Wrangler has it and I had a 2017 Toyota Highlander with it also. I don't like it and figure the money I save on gas will be wasted on the cost of a replacement starter one day. So, I push the darn button each time I drive.
Hahaha #1 😂
Get a manual trans and leave it in gear, never turns off.
Yeah if you want to hold the clutch in every time you stop.
That’s all bad ideas
All those ideas are dumb