OCD3, Ep1: Living with Intrusive Thoughts, Pure O
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- Dr. Phillipson defines intrusive thoughts and Pure O. He analyzes the different types of OCD and explains what life is like for sufferers. Subtítulos disponibles.
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Aaron Harvey (AH): Steve thanks for joining us. Today, we’d like to learn a little more about intrusive thoughts. So, it’d be great to start with your background, your speciality, and a little more about your inspiration for how you got involved.
Dr. Steven Phillipson (SP): I would listen to people talk about these very kind of upsetting intrusive thoughts that seemed so irrational to me. These were very intelligent people and yet they were acting in such a bizarre way and expressing fear over thoughts that I had myself, similar ones. And yet they were reacting to these thoughts as if there was something terribly wrong. I started looking into what must be going on here if these people are having such strong reactions to things that even they realized were kind of irrational and unnecessarily burdensome.
AH: So you said you yourself have intrusive thoughts.
SP: Sure.
AH: A lot of people have intrusive thoughts. Can you define intrusive thoughts for us and what that might mean in context of someone with OCD?
SP: Rather than using the phrase "intrusive thoughts," I prefer the phrase "creation associations." As I said, I give my brain a lot of license to generate these associations that are no different from the associations my patients come in with. The difference is that when my patients have these associations, their brain reacts to them as if there's a crisis going on. So when I have an intrusive thought or a creative association, I literally just sort of thank my brain for sharing the experience of the heebie-jeebies that lasts no more than 2 seconds, and I just kinda go on with my day. Persons with OCD, you know, have this kind of avalanche of distress that, in their efforts to seek relief from, it actually creates a vicious cycle that reinforces to the brain the idea that there is something actually wrong, there actually is a crisis going on. You know, it turns into a life-altering, very handicapping condition.
AH: And so with respect to the types of intrusive thoughts, you had mentioned a mother who might be afraid that she’s going to suffocate her newborn baby. What are some other examples of common type of intrusive thoughts?
SP: So the big three in OCD are about violence. The idea that we might act in a way harmful to others or ourselves in some loss of control. Some people think that they’ve committed some violent act and they spend a great deal of time researching or contemplating whether or not that moment might have happened. While other people think that they might be capable of committing a violent act so they might stay away from knives or sharp objectives. So the second most popular theme is related to sex. And so persons often will have thoughts that they might find underage children sexual. And the third subset is religion. Persons might have thoughts that they might say something negative about God or something negative about Jesus or Mary and then they feel an overwhelming sense of guilt or anxiety that they might be in danger.
AH: Due to the nature of intrusive thoughts, the types of thoughts, do they speak to someone’s character?
SP: Tragically this is probably one of the greatest misnomers about OCD is that people are so tempted to react as if they have some meaning about a person’s inner character and yet nothing could be further from the truth. If a patient came in with spiking about being attracted to children sexually, I often tell them that I'd be happy to leave them in a room with either of my two children for a week. And I say to them that at the end of that week, you’d be in a lot more danger than my children would be because it’s generally almost the exact opposite in terms of a person’s character. The targets of the spike theme are really just a fabrication of the malfunctioning brain. And there is no authentic belief system within the person related to those associations.
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It's generally the exact opposite of the persons character. Wow that sentence makes me feel so free. Thank you very much for sharing.
Of course :)
Same!
That's why these thoughts are so distressing to us. And that's why it impacts us so much! Because it is nothing like our character so we negatively react to these intrusive thoughts and unknowingly give them more power by having such a strong reaction to them, and we obsess about them when normal people can just let the crazy thoughts slide away. It's a terrible condition. I've struggled with it for years!
Me too, bro. Me too.
Same
I constantly have panic attacks because of my intrusive thoughts, I literally can’t go a day without something popping up and me being completely terrified, it’s hard because they say don’t try to fight the thoughts,accept them and let them pass , but they NEVER pass, they go away and come right back. It’s so tiring to deal with and they say not to create a routine but I feel like fighting it creates one too. Not even a month ago I made up my mind that I’d end my life because it’s so excruciating... but GOD! I’m still here and I’m still fighting and moving forward.
i feel the exact same way. maybe you should consider talking to someone or a professional. some ppl said that meditation helped them and working out. keep going you got this and you’re not alone.
I had this when I was 9 years old and the thoughts went away for YEARS and came back now that I’m 17! Don’t lose hope it will go away I promise!
Hang in there. You aren't alone in this struggle!♡
same :(
Going through this :( everyone with this Pure O needs a fucking support group I just want to hug you all :( it feels so lonely and isolating. Life feels horrible
god i wish this guy could be my therapist, he has such deep understanding of this disorder. i thought i was literally crazy!
Emily Rose me too!! is there any way I can message you?? I need someone to talk to about this please :(
Hi guys same here, last 4 months i've had stress issues with my career, i'm finally moving on as a i found a new job but this was the residual result of months of personal stress. and he actually nailed one of the aspects i'm dealing with which was the religious side. I thought i was going mad and was hearing voices.
I get nervous when I have those kinda of thoughts and I find myself to be disgusted for even having the thought in the first. I have to take a deep breath, realize that it’s okay. And that these thoughts do NOT define me, I am better than this, and I can be who I admire and strive to be.
Denise Rodriguez I do this exact same thing to try and overcome each time. I hope things get better or are better for you. You have my support☺
For me it usually comes during high periods of stress and anxiety. And it makes you question yourself and doubt your sanity. You keep thinking am I really like that? Is that what I really want? Its just awful and you want to die to stop the bad thoughts.
NoMoreMissNiceGirl SAME HERE LOL
I have this for 30 years.
Same. If I’m relaxed at work or at home, I feel completely normal. If a big project at work comes up or a family argument took place that made feel overwhelmed, that’s when it starts. I never was like this a few years back and I’m trying to go back to the old me. 😔
I feel like I'm going completely insane. I just want to cry. I'm in so much mental pain I can barely take it
LeeAnn Berke I know the feeling. Know that God will not allow you to endure something you aren't capable of handling and overcoming. God knows this is not YOU. It's your illness. You can fight it, and you are not alone.
+T'Mera F said it perfectly. You can fight this. You are not alone. If you do not have access to a professional near you, you can try online therapy such as Better Help: www.betterhelp.com/helpme/?AdWords&Search_PPC_c&+help_e&network=g&placement=&target=&matchtype=e&ad_type=text&adposition=1t1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIt7aLrse31gIVnrXACh2aBwTPEAAYASAAEgI_WfD_BwE&gor=helpme
God bless you 😘
T'Mera F it’s Satan whos plantings these toughts in our head tho
@@theviolethole4071 It is. We need to repent and go to Christ. These intrusive thoughts are demonic in my opinion.
For me it makes me question my character, I get scared and say “would I actually do that?”, “why would I do that?”, “is this how I actually think?!” It’s so scary. I don’t even know who I am anymore. I’m so scared. I don’t wanna hurt anyone.
Yo same :(
Ptsd is being triggered by things that reflect painful events. Ocd is being triggered by painful thoughts; situations that never happened (and won't). Intrusive thoughts go against our values, that's why we have them. 👍
I haven't cried in about a year and a half, until I saw this. I plan to get myself into therapy bc I have notice that my condition has affected my life in such a big way I hadn't realized until tonight.
I also wept, my friend. I've also been going through this problem for some time. Although, I have long periods when I am perfectly well, and it's due to the advice heeded from great therapists such as these. Acceptance is the key word for me. It's not about the content of your thoughts it's how you react to them that counts.
im in tears watching this 20 years of this and they said it was just the worst case of ocd they have seen well no its pure o. its like how a person suffering with schizophrenia here physical voices well i hear my own thoughts yelling at me 24/7
I've struggled since childhood, I've tried to make them seem as small and as irrelevant as possible, I've had panic attacks before over intrusive thoughts. It's a difficult thing to deal with but I guess the best way to deal with it is to laugh or move on and not give it much time.
Exactly what my dad says
This man could possibly be the best doctor ive ever listened to for pure o ocd ive had pure o most of my life and its been beyond torturing im 41 now and it still a big part of my life ive been unable to do so many thing i love because of it and theres times where ive ruminated 14 hours straight to the point im so fatiged and so much neck tension i cant even stand let alone do any kind of activities....for everyone out there that might be reading this if you think you have this condition please seek help asap because the longer you suffer the harder it is to fight its like a learnt behavior that becomes routine it becomes so ingrained into your life it starts to feel impossible to ever stop but we live in a great age now of internet where you have so much information on so many levels to help you with this condition something i didnt have when i was younger...i want you all to know all us pure o sufferers are brothers and sisters in this condition only we can understand what we go through and no one else it can be a very lonely and isolating condition because of this so make sure you reach out to the ocd community and help eachother
how are you now jon what ocd did you have
@@luh4682 hey my pure ocd is very a mix of things very hard to explain in message but regardless of theme its how we respond, unfortunatly covid for me has amplified thinngs alot because of the restrictions and being forced to wear masks and vacinate and be locked down made things very hard but i push through every day, hope your well and looking after yourself in these difficult times!
Love this comment🤍 I'm only 16 and god has my life turned around, but I will keep fighting no matter how hard it gets
Thank you so much for this I literally have been learning to laugh at these intrusive thoughts that I have been so scared of previously. It's irrational thoughts and fears that I would NEVER do which causes me and many others to psych ourselves out creating panic. Its really strange thinking that your mind has a section of its own makeup its just up to you to depict the true thoughts and feelings vs. the self torment in which your mind has learned to hold onto these thoughts, because being a human in society you want to justify everything. BUT! that's the thing you DO NOT!! have to justify a thought because (things that pop up into your head Do not cause a feared action which is the TRUE fear) The TRUE FEAR is that these thoughts will somehow trigger an action to make us something we are not which is why its like a scary movie you create in your mind and your the main character. I feel like many people have learned this anxiety and our minds have almost mimicked that release of the chemical (cortisol) which is the stress chemical that is released every-time these thoughts occur, it triggers that so your brain will replicate that same phenomenon because your trying to figure out why a thought created such an intense feeling, thoughts that release this cortisol will trick the brain and the brain will feel the need to conquer or figure out something. people who smoke cigarettes, marijuana, etc. drink alcohol regularly and or other substance regularly often get anxiety disorders it the name of the game. its like here's what you get for falling into temptation! I do not feel like medications truly fix the problem but only temporarily hide the problem. It is important to keep your mind clear by eating healthy exercising practice being MINDFUL not ( mind=full ) Also its important to realize that these thoughts wont ever truly go away until those thoughts truthfully don't effect you anymore. so instead of freaking out looking for re-assurance, breathe realize that this is a part of your OCD be happy you recognize it and pat yourself on the back because you didn't do the stupid crazy worst case scenario that you keep letting torcher your mind lol . prayer and meditation really helps also because it brings an acceptance and contentness,People with OCD and anxiety need to realize their brains are working on an over drive and it is not fair to your brain and body to work that hard over pointless exhausting thoughts. believe me I have been there and I just want to leave this comment showing that I also have and am continuing to let go of these irrational fears.Read more Show less
Thanks so much for sharing :) Learning to laugh at yourself can be a great way to relieve stress. And yes, reminding yourself that you are NOT your intrusive thoughts is so important.
Tyler Cline I am still scared of mine
intrusivethoughts Hi so I was just wondering, when the guy asked you if intrusive thoughts mean anything about a person's character did you mean that the intrusive thoughts are the opposite of ones character or their the same as ones character
Brian Delmore intrusive thoughts are not a defining factor of someone's characteristics. you are being played by your thoughts still if you are decieve by this idea. if you acted off every thought how crazy would you look lol you can be whom you want to be (best version of yourself) not what random thoughts define you as. obviously your random intrusive thoughts have you looking for help on TH-cam like me and many others. those thoughts are loop holes and rabbit holes to panic. it realeses cortisol and adrenaline for fight or flight when the thoughts occur and trigger your wtf moment which is why it keeps happening. it's a phenomenon to your body like doing a drug or something so it keeps happening until your desensitized to the thoughts that eventually you'll laugh at they won't always mess with u. one day the thoughts will just be annoying and pointless and you'll push them off as disregarded and pointless thoguhts. it's like energy with no direction. so it's cyclical.
Tyler Cline thanks it's just that I've been having some problems myself and my biggest fear is if they mean anything or if it's just to much exposure to graphic and violent stuff
I think I have suffered from OCD since my teenage years without realizing it. It started with traditional OCD (door knobs, hand washing, light checking etc.) then it went to pure O on my twenties. It doesn’t go away, you just learn about it and about yourself more. Courage friend.
I am so incredibly thankful for this video.
If a person with 'Pure O' and had the fear of being a pedophile was asked to spend a week with children would jump on a plane and get the hell out of there. The fear of the thought is what separates them from a pedophile. To a pedophile that would be a dream come true. for someone who suffers from Pure O it would be the experience of their worst nightmare!
This is so true, I think about this through all my my triggers. Which kinda helps me realize they're just thoughts and not something I actually wanna go through with.
I didn't even know this was OCD I thought it was just me! my whole entire life I couldn't explain what was going on and I was really starting to believe that I'm the only one going through this as no one in my life has ever expressed anything similar or can relate to what I'm going through when I explain how I'm feeling. I thought it was bipolar disorder, social anxiety and depression but I'm not afraid to speak to people, it's only when these intrusive thoughts enter my mind and I obsess over them when I feel like I cant speak and I fear even more because I feel like I'm gonna make the other person feel awkward or they'll be freaked out by the sudden change in my demeanour. The thing that scares me the most is that I don't know what all of my triggers are and certain things and actions that people do around me bring back these dreadful thoughts and then the thoughts continue and I feel like I'm going insane to the point of me having to sit in a certain position or look a certain way in an attempt to try to get the thoughts to stop. Sometimes I don't succeed and I have to avoid someone all together. You know how debilitating that is at work to go through that? I've been through so many damn jobs I can't keep up because my thoughts make me feel uncomfortable around others. and it's just too much to keep up with. I've also had really bad religious thoughts when I was kid till my adult years. I can't keep up with this disorder but I do pray I get over it and truly anyone suffering through this debilitating disorder.
Rae Azanna wow! I love you and I pray that you get better!
Sofie J thank you so much 💕
May I make an armchair diagnosis? Your problem really has to do with shame, confrontation, manners and can be handled better socially with calmness, understanding, politeness, and humor. Try it. Don't look for validation or approval as much as to do right. Once you win your own self-respect by putting in a good day's activities, then you'll be better. Live in your strengths. -That'll be $50 TH-cam dollars for my fee.
OCD and depression are pretty common it seems like ALOT of people have this. i think its usually triggered in depressed people. if you are not depressed you seem fine. diet and avoiding processed food and outfood seems to be a huge factor in depression and mental issues. mcdonalds and fastfood joints have tons of chemicals in them destroying are brains they should be out of business
Leah May Praying for you ❤️ I have 2 daughters with this problem too 😣
Thank god I’m not the only one I have the violent thoughts it’s a living hell I can’t be around a knife or a gun without thinking about hurting somebody
The amount of relief I felt after hearing him discuss this
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I'm punishing myself with thoughts. It's like self harm, but with thinking. I told myself that if I resist a compulsion (which I did), I would force myself to purposely think of a certain thought that causes distress until it consumes my every thought/moment the rest of my life until it completely takes over and drives me insane.
The fear of forcing an intrusive thought intentionally is my issue right now and I'm not sure what to do. I get distracted and then remember and purposely think it and make it stronger. It's causing horrible panic and anxiety. I understand the accepting the intrusive thought and the I'm not my thoughts part, but this is different. Its like I'm trying to destroy myself. Kinda like in meditation when you get distracted and you bring yourself back to your breath or mantra, I'm purposely and forcefully bringing myself back to the intrusive thought just because I told myself I had to and I fear it taking over which ironically is making it take over...
Marty Martin let's talk together. We are the same.
This is me. I've been forcing horrible thoughts like my family member's dying and how I would react to it for months now!!
I worry ill torture my pets or become insane or a cannibal or something. I also have a best friend whos got a dog and images of beastiality pops into my mind. I dont always have this problem though but during high periods of stress and anxiety I do. I hope hearing my thoughts will help other people know they are not alone. In the past some other intrusive thoughts Ive had were about children, incest, turning trans. Its actually kinda funny how silly these thoughts are but its mainly hell.
NoMoreMissNiceGirl I have the same problems as you.
It’s because you’re a good moral person that you feel distressed over having such dirty immoral thoughts.. people who actually commit all these disgusting crimes don’t think twice.. they don’t fret over it.. they just do it and enjoy it. You on the other hand are horrified to even think of it.. this means you’re a very good, very moral person deep down. God Bless You.
I Support you so much Thanks so so much would be Happy to kinda Talk To you Because i am going through exactly the Same 😞
I've had similar thoughts. My intrusive thoughts also pop up during social interaction, making me come across very weird, awkward, etc to the point where I've become a recluse. I'm always worried that people are thinking the worst of me and I obsess over it. If I walk into a store, I'm afraid people are gonna think I'm trying to steal. If I make eye contact with someone, I'm afraid the person is going to think I'm trying to seduce/hit on them. I create these scenarios in my head on how I'm being perceived and it's always the worst. I can't even be around children much because I'm scared I am going to be perceived as a pedophile. I know I am not any of these things but it's the fear and thought that other people think I am. And then I get nasty mental images of violence, incest, gross diseases, etc. Even talking to my father or mother sometimes I'll think they're thinking I am hitting on them. It is so disgusting, unpleasant, uncomfortable, gross and triggering to constantly have to deal with these thoughts.
@Jennifer Prestwood Thanks, I finally am. Hope the same for you! It's hell.
I dealt with this very intensely for a decade. Intrusive thoughts about stealing, blasphemy, pedophilia, incest, violence, etc. It completely destroyed my life and I turned to alcohol to cope and make me feel "normal". After getting marijuana-induced psychosis and having a breakdown, I was put in a hospital and somehow managed to regain sanity with medication and was finally able to be honest with psychiatrists about these thoughts. I was put on a high dose of medication used to treat OCD and little by little it got better. I was also using CBT and DBT methods which helped. Today I am 80% free of Pure O and literally laugh like crazy thinking about how triggered I used to get by these insane thoughts. I am finally at peace and medication-free for over a year now. You have to understand that these are just thoughts and there's no desire behind them.
I can say that OCD (Pure O) is hell on earth. And nobody deserves it. I battled it for years. I can proudly say I have overcome it, and i want to help those who are suffering from it now. My advice is as follows:
0. See a psychologist who is well aware of CBT and ERP that is cognitive behavioral therapy and exposure . You may at first ask them if they can administer this therapy for you. If you feel they are being Freudian and trying to pick your brain (like: How does this make you feel? Why do you think you have these thoughts?) know they are unqualified to help you, they can only make it worse. (I know from experience) CBT and ERP will be similar to the advice I have written below.
1. Take SSRI’s. These anti-depressants lessen your intrusive thoughts
2. Read about OCD and the OCD types of others. Mine was Harm Pure O and reading about the others in length helps understand what is going on.
3. Exercise everyday
4. Surround yourself with friends and family (don’t stay at home)
5. Meditation/prayer. Though if these are the cause of your OCD skip this advice. If not then try.
6. Try art/ crafts or reading
7. Finally and most importantly.... ERP... stand up to the dragon. The best form of overcoming your fear is to bring it on yourself. If you have a fear of stabbing someone don’t hide the knife but bring it out and label your thoughts as they come into your brain. Acknowledge that these thoughts have nothing to do with you, they are just chemical reactions. Example: if your brain says I am going to stab her, then instead of avoiding the thought say, repeat what you said. Strangely it works. Know they are not you who is speaking just the dragon. You are the brave knight.
Adjag2 Studios ... this pure O thing is affecting my relationship. I've had OCD since December. It's now April. It did get better... but not by much. :(
Adjag2 Studios ... do you think people who suffer from pure O can beat it without the meds? I'm terrified of taking meds.
Elizabeth Gonzalez see a doctor take your meds. I stopped taking them only because the doctor said I didn’t need them anymore. But without them at first it makes things unbearable. I highly recommend taking them.
Adjag2 Studios ... got it! Thanks for the advice.
Adjag2 Studios .. so sorry to keep bothering you. I was wondering... how long do people generally take the meds for? And did you actually see a reduction in anxiety and panic attacks?
I share this video with a lot of the people I speak to about their OCD. It's really important to understand how the brain can come up with these "creative associations" and this is especially true when you've been "on topic" with an obsessional theme for quite some time. The brain will automatically generate these associations just based upon all the knowledge and memory our brains have stored up over the years about any or all subjects. The question: "Why do I have these horrid thoughts?" is a common concern for a person with OCD and understanding about meaningless creative associations helps them to just let the thoughts be even when their anxiety is compelling them to attend. Thank you!!
Hello @Mitzi VanCleve, I came across your book and was wondering if you'd be willing to chat with me. I too suffer from OCD and am struggling to stay afloat.
It's very nice to think of intrusive thoughts as creative associations..
Lawrence H. What did he mean by that?
This made me cry omg I think I might have ocd I thought I was a horrible disgusting person but I know I don't really think those things so I get confused and scared
This is hell... and the worst part is. You are on your own you get judge for having a mental issue man this world is fucked up.
It isn't always OCD that does this. ADHD does this too, I hate it. :'( I am scared of them daily.
the thoughts are upsetting, but you are stronger than them
Marvellous to hear so much sense being talked about Pure O. This is really helpful.
This is my go to video in dark times. Thank you so much for helping me
I really couldn't watch any video that will be better right now. Thank you.
Rumination is the biggest and subtle compulsion
I just found this channel and I love everything about it
Wow this Doctor really understand what's going on unlike many others...
Guy's a genius. Been living with this since October of 2013. It's horrible. It's a relief to know I am not alone but also sad to know that other people are experiencing this. It sucks!
Ever since I've been studying past the entire school curriculum , I have had the thoughts that I might hurt my family or friends, I even have nightmares of their screams.Please, I want it to stop.
It's really not easy, but I've got to move on. These intrusive thoughts won't hold me back.
It’s hard my friend... try to be around friends and family. I’ve noticed that it helps.
OCD is a form of PTSD. A person who has intrusive thoughts and compulsions (or rituals) is doing it because something bad had happened to them at some point in their lives and they feel if they obey to OCD demands it will prevent something else bad from happening. The intrusive thoughts are from the OCD, it is rumination of a negative experience, usually these intrusive thoughts can distort reality though and put a person in a deep depression. With COVID it does not help, because the depression from being indoors only gets magnified.
This video is very important to me!!
i've been seeing a psychiatrist for a little over a year now due to pure ocd, after medication and therapy i'm convinced that the intrusive thoughts that i have are just thoughts and i would never act on them , but my issue now is simply having these thought inside my head, or more accurate why? why? this is just killing me and sometimes i contemplate suicide because of it , suicide seems to me the only way to make my mind stop. i have called off my engagement, i have lost any hope for a happy life, i can't find joy anywhere.. it's just hard having this fucked up monster inside my head , he took all my life , all my joy, it feels like i'm a guest in my own life or soul or whatever, i just want one clean day without these thoughts, i'm exhausted..
YedKom let's talk together about it. We are the same
I feel you. I would give anything to make this fucked up shit go away. I've been dealing with it for over a decade. I think back to my life before the intrusive thoughts and I miss being freeeeee, walking outside, living a normal life, walking by people and not having intrusive thoughts, going into a store and not having intrusive thoughts, socializing with people without having intrusive thoughts. This shit has robbed me of every joy I've ever had!
@@doubleyouexwhyamzed I feel this so much!!! I often think about life before the intrusive thoughts because I REMEMBER what life was Iike before! Like I remember waking up in the morning and thinking about what to eat for breakfast and who I was gonna see that day ...now I wake up with horrible intrusive thoughts and anxiety right after I open my eyes!!! This shit sucks
It sucks when you can't tell if the thoughts are coming from you
Y’all should read, “Overcoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts.” by Sally M. Winston and Martin N. Self ❤️❤️❤️
Amazing point of view.
wow.....glad I'm not alone
I had this severely and after 7 years I gave myself to God and surrendered ✝️❤️
Could you perhaps explain how exactly you did this?
OH WOW
this doctor’s article about pure ocd saved my life in 2017, I remembered his name !!
Please watch the full interview, this was amazing, i really thought i was on the way to madness or hearing voices. I had to drive around in my car play xbox, force myself to sleep anything to fight intrusive thoughts, but nothing worked.
I recommend you to ask a psychiatrist a professional one who can correctly diagnose you. Because with Schizophrenia as far as I know the people hear voices.
Great video
When you said exact opposite of a persons character I took a deep breath and it felt like a weight was lifted off my chest. These thoughts are not me. They go against my morals which is why it’s tormenting me so much.
I be feeling like a monster inside
I have pure o...for more than 5 years and i discovered this in covid lockdown that it is mental state ... I am 20 now...i am telling you ,there is only one way to go through this i.e. meditation ...learn it...it is a learnable skill...
👍 OCD can be treated by BUSPIRONE or Esketamine ! In fact, Buspirone certainly makes OCD-patients getting peace and healthy pleasure. Wishing all OCD sufferers a wellbeing recovery & happiness !
I remembered when I had thoughts of my own mother trying to poison me, this was not rational but an override of pure O
Let's talk about this. We are the same.
I hate serving people drinks or whatever because I'm scared they're going to think I poisoned it and I look so suspicious and guilty because of the intrusive thought that right away I look shady and it's fricking so terrible. It's like I'm making myself look bad because I react to the intrusive thought and I come across suspicious.
I have Ocd on thoughts about Suicide. I never was suicidal or liked it. They just come intrusively. The antipsychotic respiridone worked well on the issue.
Unfortunately medication can be so addictive !
Good film. Thank you
The intrusive thoughts I get don't fall into any of those categories. It's in a whole new category.
I'm a 14 year old girl and I feel like I will kill my cat or hurt a child and I don't want to tell my therapist in fear that she won't understand
It is okay to tell your therapist. They are there to help you work out through that. Just start by telling her you have these intrusive thoughts, that are very terrible and that you would never do. And see what she says after that, and then you may feel more comfortable explaining the thoughts you have to her.
+MADLyricStudio is exactly right. Do not hesitate to talk to your therapist about this. She is there to help and getting it off your chest can be amazingly therapeutic
ava montalbano I hope you told a therapist. I have been dealing with OCD for all of my life. I wish I got help with it sooner.
Thank you. Dr Philip
Sometimes I imagine myself doing something bad and then overtime I look back to me imagining that and then it starts to rly feel like I did what I imagined.
Everybody in the face has to face intrusive thoughts...butt when we learn to utilize them for our development,it aids us a lot
Useful video. To feel better be careful what you feed your mind. Reduce watching negative social media and avoid constipation as it affects the mind instantly. Your breathing is closely related to the brain [mind] and gives relief from stress-anxiety. For a relaxed mind observe the sensations of your incoming--outgoing breath at the entrance of the nostrils for 10-15-20 minutes or more. You can sit or lay down on the bed--No deep breathing. Don’t fight your thoughts. With practice the mind will relax. Keep a reminder to observe your breath sensations throughout the day and night anywhere -anytime-- before sleep, at work, at home, when travelling etc with eyes open or closed. One more tip is to sit on a chair without moving, be still and observe your breath for a few minutes. Stillness reduces thoughts and brings quick relief. Like me make breath observing a lifetime habit to have a better life. Best wishes--Counsellor.
Tomarrow i am going to see sb who does power thraphy i am positive i will have my gleeful smiles back
I can totally feel that.
Mine are daily negativity. People who insulted me negative politics.
They rock me emotionally.
Joshua, To feel better be careful what you feed your mind. Reduce watching negative social media and avoid constipation as it affects the mind instantly. Your breathing is closely related to the brain [mind] and gives relief from stress-anxiety. For a relaxed mind observe the sensations of your incoming--outgoing breath at the entrance of the nostrils for 10-15-20 minutes or more. You can sit or lay down on the bed--No deep breathing. Don’t fight your thoughts. With practice the mind will relax. Keep a reminder to observe your breath sensations throughout the day and night anywhere -anytime-- before sleep, at work, at home, when travelling etc with eyes open or closed. One more tip is to sit on a chair without moving, be still and observe your breath for a few minutes. Stillness reduces thoughts and brings quick relief. Like me make breath observing a lifetime habit to have a better life. Best wishes--Counsellor.
@@shyaaammeneen63 thanks. I struggle daily, it even affects my work
@@joshuaking6534 Look to King Yashua❤✝️🙏
An avalanche of distress... literally my life
Thanks to the OCD algorithm we are all gathered here. We are not alone folks and that´s a great. Hi yall!
Thank you for making these videos. I have struggled with pure "o" ocd but did not fully understand what was going on until seeing these videos. You mentioned that intrusive thoughts tend to be violent, harmful, sexual or religious in nature. Can intrusive thoughts relate to less violent subjects? My intrusive thoughts tend to be about reading and telling myself that I can't read or interpret information. They began in college as I was having to read a lot of information for class and have continued for quite some time. I'm having trouble distinguishing whether the thoughts are just anxiety related or are actually intrusive thoughts.
I can attest to intrusive thoughts covering a whole spectrum of ideas. As well as having some of the more graphic intrusive thoughts. I, like you, have had them about the most trivial things. Like the inability to process information, or the slightly more ridiculous, what if I suddenly forgot how to breath? I wish you well.
I have intrutive thoughts that can be about nothing that is to my concern but it can make feel upset or embarrassed. Or I can have bad memories that's makes feel upset. Or I can feel suicidal if i cant work technology or I don't know something.
And the Angel(Yahoel) said to me(Abraham), "Answer him (Azazel) not!" And he spoke to me a second time. And the angel said," Now whatever he says to you, answer him not, lest his will affect you. Since God gave him the gravity and the will against those who answer him, answer him not. And I did what the angel commanded me. And whatever he said to me about the descent, I did not answer him. Apocalypse of Abraham 14:10-14 This passage reminds me a lot of our disorder, in that the more you try to rationalize, talk to, convince you and/or your voices the more they have you under their control. What you have to remember is not to even entertain a suggestion or and accusatory thought that may come into your head. Ignore it and it will start to lose it's power over you.
SPOT ON…
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No one on TH-cam seems to be talking about OCD and tourettes ticks as a comorbid disorder.
My childhood hero
1:40 - interesante. La solución es nada más agradecer al subconsciente de haberme compartido ese tema, y prosigo con mi dia.
3:12 - muy raro que no mencionó como tema de pensamientos intrusivos al acoso, o haciendose respetar. tal vez entra en "violencia", pero no va por ese lado.
I have intrusive thoughts combined with thought broadcasting so it's real fun and games.
he sitting like that and showing his underside of shoes itself is creating lot of intrusive thoughts.
I know about it in theory but I still can’t seem to resist the rituals even if I try it’s been that long it’s like second nature
I feel it
Is it pure o if i feel something may changed physically with me. Im bipolar too & tho i cant see it, it might be there..so i always have to rationalize myself or ask someone! Please let me know. I keep tryna make sense of something irrational.
I have pure O how do I go about getting help for it? Is there a special place where I can receive help?
I feel as though intrusive thoughts they came and they go they do go away though that I believe because I have had them. You just have to ground yourself DO NOT LET THE DEVIL GET TO YOU FIGHT HIM HES A LIAR. Focus on what’s more important focus on the LORD. Focus on what you want out of your life out of this world
Im struggling It's hard sister. I feel like I'm a walking sin fighting them all day and I feel worse even trying to let go. I will never quit on Lord Jesus and I know he will never quit on me. But sometimes I feel such shame guilt that I can't help but feeling as a failure in his eyes. I was able to break free from many different themes before but when my worst feared theme showed up (blasphemy and sexual intrusive thoughts) I got stuck like never before. It has gotten to the point where I feel like it's me although I know it's not but I can't help it. It comes with the confirmation of strong emotions and it even interacts with my body. I have never been this committed to seek the lord and walk with him, but everything I do is turned against him. How can I possibly just let go of this? I feel like anything else I would be strong enough to eventually shut down but I guess that's OCD in a nutshell, keeps you binded in these ways. I do have faith that i will be alright once again but meanwhile I'm afraid that I'm a disappointment and out of GOD'S love. Which of course isn't true because he never changes and he is the same yesterday today and forever. But still feel the guilt shame disgust ungodly etc.. I pray to the heavenly father that divine intervention will come my way so that I can serve him and his kingdom and worship him properly and become the man that he created me to be, a man of God, in Jesus name ❤✝️🙏
Mine are very specific and weird
Hi Intrusive thoughts thanks for the video, what method would you recommend as I have had bad thoughts about breaking up with and that I don't love my girlfriend (who I do love), when I'm near her now or think of her I get anxious- I'm aspergers syndrome aswell
This is relationship OCD, I suffer through this horribly. How are you feeling now ?
@@youtubewatcher830 tension in the body, something pushing you away, db out that drains you of the relationship abilities you had before. Mine was triggered by retro jealousy
I want some expert to tell us what makes the brain produce such horrible thoughts that are opposite of one’s character? I am a very sensitive person who feels badly about killing a bug sometimes but then I have horrible, violent thoughts sometimes against other people that are very distressing to me, because it’s the opposite of who I am. I want to know what causes the mind to produce such “darkness,” if the person isn’t a “dark” person?
Yes, you can “ignore them” like all the experts say, but they never say why the brain produces them in the first place so you’ll have to “ignore” them?
That’s exactly what I want to know! Could it be something we’ve seen in movies or news that disturbed our sensitive souls?
Can these thoughts be specific- for example i get unwanted thoughts about my sexual orientation ive always been straight(im a guy) attracted to women for 17 years and all the sudden i started thinking im gay
Yes, I’ve heard many stories of people saying the same thing. In fact, those thoughts started popping into my head not long ago, but I know without a doubt I’m straight😅 but I still get thoughts saying “but what if you’re not”. It’s just one of many we deal with
o disappointed after watching pure on Channel 4 tonight it's not it's not a joke having this horrible disease in my mind I think it should have been a serious drama about how it effects not just the person's life but the people around them too I just hope the next 5 Series will bring home the truth about this problem and not make it a laughing stock.Tom
I can't find the full interview. Anyone have a link?
Nevermind, www.madeofmillions.com/ocd/intrusive-thoughts
is Hocd treatable?
Is there a OCD medicine for this? I know some people say Schizophrenia meds like Risperidone can help. Pray and find a good medication and you will be Ok God knows they aren't your thoughts and that is what matters.
Video Kitten Well said dear 😘😘
J JJ cognitive behavioural therapy and a psychologist who really knows how to treat Pure O works, but I don't see how drugs alone can work.
Some people do resort to medication. The most common type are called SSRIs. However, treatment such as ERP is highly recommended and no one should turn to medication without consulting a professional :)
J it helped me out loads
Video Kitten Anafranil is supposed to be a good one. I've just begun Luvox
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interesting
i have intrusive C O N V E R S A T I O N S with my damn imaginary friends 24/7 i live in a different place different time , whats wrong with me ? is that OCD ? talk and talk and talk again ... wtf ...
zloben9000 that’s probably maladaptive daydreaming, look it up
Suffering from sexual intrusive thoughts and groinal movement it feels like erection is taking place 24/7 please help me recently discovered from psychiatrist that I am suffering from pure -o ocd please help me😖😖😖😖😖😔😔😔
Randeep Singh... how can I contact you? I'm going through this right now. I'm losing it. Can we talk?
Can you have intrusive thoguhts/pure witout the pictures in your head?
Im not afraid that I WILL or HAVE done anything - but Im afraid I WANT TO do something.
Like -
Im not afraid I will cheat on my partner but Im afraid I WANT TO
im not afraid I will do anything to kids but Im afraid I WANT TO if I just "allowed" me to feel that
im not afraid I will hurt anyone but im afraid that I FEEL that I want to
Its alot of feeling "if you're being honest to yourself - dont you feel that you want to/feel like/really am xxx"
And then the theme is ALOT about me not loving my mother or partner. If im listning to something about a bad mother I always get "is this what you think of your mother?" etc.
Its the constent feeling of "you know if you really try" (and that it will be a bad feeling). "If you really are being honest to yourself, you really think this about your mother/dont love your partner/are a pedophile/want to hurt someone/like to manipulate etc". And THAT feeling is what makes me think its NOT ocd. Because its not something what "pops up" like intrusive thoughts with pictures in my mind. Because I dont have the pictures in my mind if I dont create them I have a hard time beliving they are "unwanted" etc. How do I know its not me and they are unwanted if they're not just pop up in my head?
Like, if I have a thought that "i want to hurt someone" and FEEL that I want to BUT DONT WANT TO FEEL - like yeah, thats unwanted but what if I DO FEEL that I want do? Not that I will or have or want to feel it - therefore unwanted - but I FEEL it. Is that still ocd? Is that still "unwanted"? As in I dont want to feel like i want to, but I do.
I have difficulty getting the grip of "unwanted".
If I have a feeling that I want to hurt someone, IT'S THERE and that makes me a horrible person, EVEN if I do not want it to be there. - Its UNWANTED. But I still have the feeling. Doesnt the feeling of me wanting to/feeling something mean I AM?
Just like if I feel I want to be with anyone else but my partner. I DONT WANT TO FEEL THAT but when I analyse it I get some feeling of me wanting to. At the same time, I know I want to be with my partner. So how can I FEEL something different? Gaaah. Does this count as "unwanted feelings"? Or how should I go about this? What does "unwanted" stand for really? Can't you be a pedophile and NOT WANT TO BE. Does that make it ocd? I dont get it.
How do I know what's unwanted vs what I just can not accept?
Would love to hear anything about this. Please give me something.
And sorry for my English, its not my first language.
Jesus will heal you. Repent your sins to him and ask for forgiveness in Jesus name. He did it for me he can do it for you if you're reading this take it as a sign that Jesus Loves you and he wants you to come to him. He will fill you with perfect love and the Holy spirit. He will send his legion of angels to protect you and torment the demons trying to torment you. All you have to do is believe he died for your sins and was ressurected. Jesus loves you he is the same yesterday today and forever. Gods love and mercy are endless and you are worthy of his love. Just like a father disciplines his children because he loves them is the same reason why he allows you to go through seasons in life so you may come to him. No one is good except the Lord. We must all realize and humble ourselves that we are only human and through Jesus Christ anything is possible! Have Faith. I love you Jesus loves you and may the Lord intercede in the lives of anyone who is reading this. In Jesus name amen.
May you pls pray for me
@@Isabela-ex8hk praying now
@Faith Daisie Exactly!! There is no way this person actually watched the video, or else they would know that the thoughts often manifest through a religious lense.
I have a feeling you paste this comment into many comment sections because you want to spread the word. However, it will do much more harm than good in this section. When I was younger, my intrusive thoughts tied themselves to my religion. I spent all day every day fighting my worst spiritual fears because of these thoughts. Please delete your comment, because like another user noted, it can lead to extremely dangerous thoughts here.
@@hannahd8731 To feel better be careful what you feed your mind. Reduce watching negative social media and avoid constipation as it affects the mind instantly. Your breathing is closely related to the brain [mind] and gives relief from stress-anxiety. For a relaxed mind observe the sensations of your incoming--outgoing breath at the entrance of the nostrils for 10-15-20 minutes or more. You can sit or lay down on the bed--No deep breathing. Don’t fight your thoughts. With practice the mind will relax. Keep a reminder to observe your breath sensations throughout the day and night anywhere -anytime-- before sleep, at work, at home, when travelling etc with eyes open or closed. One more tip is to sit on a chair without moving, be still and observe your breath for a few minutes. Stillness reduces thoughts and brings quick relief. Like me make breath observing a lifetime habit to have a better life. Best wishes--Counsellor.
I began having an intrusive thought from a 3 days of drinking and drugs. Since that day that thought haunted me. Is that ocd or post traumatic disorder? My anxiety has gone a bit.. the thought comes and goes but doesnt put me in a state of anxiety .. but I still drink and do cocaine from time to time. How can i fix myself.. rewire my brain etc..
VirtusEtHonestas meditate exercise relax and with time you will heal you can grow from this experience
Stop drinking for a while.. My intrusive thought started 5 months ago when i was drunk i was talking with a friend in a bar and suddenly that shit attack me in my mind without reason i feel fear and anxiety i said myself "wtf is this shit" i stopped drinking that night the next day was worse and worse every week now i have 5 months with this i cant sleep and i have others intrusive thoughts but reading and learning about this that help me a lot remember you are not your thouhts.
thank you to Tony Hawk for interviewing him
Ethan Cantes-Freeman tell me why I believed it was tony hawk for a second tho 😂
I had this recurring thought of stabbing my mother for a while the now. I feel like a fucking piece of shit for even thinking about it, but it won't go away. It's been happening for months. Shes' done nothing to me, yet these thoughts just flood in. Wtf is wrong with me.
I was heterosexual before hocd am i still after hocd?
Please don't introduce another term. "Intrusive thoughts" is fine. BTW, I thought this was going to be about pure-O. Some people don't believe it exists, that is, some compulsion always follows the intrusive thought.