Fun story about tolerance stack, I was working on fixing someone’s old cad model for a football stadium and nearly every concrete piece was off by *a few 256ths* of an inch. By the end of the stadium, from left to right, there was nearly a two inch gap at the side wall. Took forever to redesign. As soon as Alex said that, I got flashbacks. Nightmare stuff.
PS: It basically consists out of three words: "Finger-spitzen-gefühl". Word for word it does mean "Finger-Tip-Sense". If you say "Er hat Fingerspitzengefühl" it basically does mean "He is really precise with his hands". Yeah.. right.. it can have multiple meanings 😅
@@TheBurnout96 Can also mean that you are very careful in a social situation. Like telling your child that Santa isn't real might require some Fingerspitzengefühl
While it is rare to find woodwork in a PC build, most carpenters (especially cabinet builders) would advise applying wood glue along the seams of the frame. Skipping this common step is kind of like attaching a cooling tower without thermal paste. Once the glue dries it can more than double the durability of your wood project while reducing the chance of spitting the wood when inserting screws. You guys did a beautiful job, and I imagine it was a lot more work than this video showed.
@@IntelGMAgaming Oh god, I noticed early in the build but forgot by the end of the vid. Yeah...that really needed to be sealed, and the right stain would've added to the feel of the thing immensely.
You got Alex all he tools he wants, and he still holds up the paint table with a clamp. He's evolving from an engineer to a fabricator. He's even learning that if you let the boss ruin it, you can save yourself grief when you ruin it too.
As a finish carpenter watching it take this much effort for you guys to make this makes me feel a little better about knowing the limited ammount i know about computers. Takes all types
That way it'll be self-sustaining, the electronics light the fine sawdust and begin burning the wood, the fire is put out by the terribly installed waterloop leaks and the water causes more sparks. Rinse and repeat!
As a German it took me a few tries to understand the german word, but what he said was "Fingerspitzengefühl" which literally translates to "Finger-tip-feeling". It just refers to generally fine-motoric dexterity.
I'm happy to say that we have the exact same word in Swedish, "fingertoppskänsla". Love how you can build a new longer word by merging shorter ones. You Germans usually beats us by having the longest words though.
I have no idea how it could be a video, but I would 100% watch a video of Alex learning welding and Linus being shown how to properly, and safely, use power tools.
At 1:40 he said "We could spend the next day polishing this up in cad, or we could just build it and fix problems at they appear." Had me laughing! That's gotta be a reference to Martin's struggles.
He hasn't given up on it, he just realized that this version of the machine wouldn't be tour ready. So he is going to finish it, and then work on making a new version that will be tour compatible. Think about it like this, the first machine was just a proof of concept, this one is a working prototype, and the next one will be the "finished product" ,but seeing how Martin works it will be in a constant state of upgrading.
@@Kafj302 Yeah I remember him saying that in the last video, but the last announcement he made in the discord sounded less optimistic. Sounds more like he's just going to go ahead with the MMX-T in the future and is not going to be doing anything marble related for a while.
@@juliosnap i would say he is probably suffering from quite a bit of burnout, so give him some time. He isn't going away anytime soon, just relaxing i think.
Wintergatan is my favorite TH-cam channel, it seems like he's been struggling with design aesthetics verses just getting things done, so thanks for helping him out! The gear shutoff switch is probably the best part of this build because he's been trying to reduce the noise of the marble machine for quite a while.
after he gets this he'll probably take it apart and fix the tolerances or completely remake all the pieces, but he'll definitely laugh about the inclusion of Wilson on the side.
"1/8th of an inch here, 1/8th of an inch there, next thing you know, the thing doesn't work anymore" As a MMX believer, this quote sent chills down my spine
I love how Linus has progressively gone from "why would we need one of those" to "Get the build team almost w/e tool/gizmo/machine they say they need." including how over the same time he has become just about as nerdy as them to a point due to their enthusiasm.
If anything this just showcases the talent that works at LMG! I kind of wish there was more stuff like this on the channel because watching the team work together on projects like this is so nice to watch.
The proper thing to do to silence the gears is to employ a double sided timing belt on the back side with equivalent gear ratios and make it so that the gears never actually touch each other. Your backlash is huge and that is I would say the main source of your noise. With involute gears the pitch circles should meet but not overlap.
These episodes with Alex and Linus engineering solutions to ridiculous problems or questions have real Mythbusters vibes. They are easily the best part of the channel.
Not really that hard... Much easier with wood than with metal. You can easily fill holes, file stuff down, sand, cut, etc... All of this is way more complex with metal. Plus tolerences are way less important with wood, as it is much more compliant. All my PC cases are made of wood, and i have been doing that for years. And if you have an amazing shop as they do, it's even easier! A CNC makes a lot of things easier.
@@AudreyRobinel That statemnt is very relative to who is doing the work. Metal is easily patched and filled too, depending on size with either straight up weld or just weld in a new plate. For a metal worker / welder, slapping together a rectangle box is very easy. To a career carpenter or wood worker, the same or similar end product but out of wood isnt hard. To those who havent worked in either medium often, and dont have the experience to just look at something and know what to do - then both can be hard. Ive seen novices build some Horendous MDF sub boxes, and take like days to do it. So yeah... its just relative to the experience of the builder. I was raised doing alot of wood work, but as I grew older became a mechanic and got into welding and fab. If you asked me 15 years ago Id rather build something out of wood. Today Id choose metal, just because its alot more comfortable to me these days.
Lasering ply is such a PITA I've found 2 passes is the safest approach. LOVE the final result though, those moving gears were totally worth the pain. Where do you source the component CAD models from? 😍
I am actually working on an un related commercial wood computer case and I’d love to know that as well! Grab cad can’t be trusted. There are shockingly detailed models there but many of them are ever so slightly off, suggesting they were dimensioned from measurements.
We Used Grab Cad for most models and double checked them with our own measurements to see if they were correct. The gears were made using the original MMX gear models!
The fact that I’m hearing Wintergatan in LTT video makes me miss weekly Marble Machine X videos even more. I hope that Martin has had enough strenght and motivation between his last update and today. And sidenote, I have just watched about 3 minutes of this video but just wanted to get my toughts out straight away.
@@Lowkas Martin spent 4.5 years trying to to build the Marble Machine X, a sequel to the viral instrument from 2016. The first Marble Machine didn't actually work as it was only ever able to play the full song once or twice, and would break constantly. The Marble Machine X was supposed to be a machine that was reliable enough to take on a world tour and play on stage. In the end, as he grew as an amateur engineer, he realized that his initial plans were impeding the mission to create a machine that could reliably play music. Decisions made early in the project that were based on faulty assumptions or aesthetics were causing issues that had to be fixed. 6 months ago, Martin made a video proclaiming the project done. He was no longer going to be making weekly videos about not, nor even finishing the machine. Instead, he would be working on the Marble Machine X2, but wouldn't be doing the weekly video schedule he had been doing for the previous 4 years. Last month he came back and has been making weekly videos about the MMX2.
@@samus88 well, he acknowledged that his strive for form perfection made the function impossible. We'll see where he ends up. He understands now that you need to design for function first and form comes second, so he has a higher chance of succeeding.
NO first prototype will ever be perfect, thats just the nature of designing. You always run iterations before you get a final product out. Thats how it goes always.
A lacquer finish on that would have been awesome, it would have looked "more wooden" it looks a bit too cardboardy. But otherwise a pretty dope build. I'd love to see you guys work on a custom build with DIY Perks, his inventiveness and y'alls resources and technical expertise would definitely result in something beautiful.
I really wish they brought a professional on fo this build. Frankly a wood worker or carpenter could have greatly helped them choose a more throughful build stradegy and could have pointed out the painters tape trick, better counter sinking, pocket holes for the joints and many more thigns obvious to someone who knows how to work with wood. This build was really cool but fell very short of what it could have been - even as far as just build quality goes.
@@daniel_poore if they brought in professionals for help everytime the channel wouldn't have as much merit. The beauty of this channel is to see the constant growth of skill and quality. Also them doing it purely on their own for the first time just shows the home user what the end result looks like with exactly that. The next one they build will definitely be better.
@@daniel_poore painters tape, or, once the center bit is through, flip the piece over and cut towards the middle from the reverse side. Both accomplish the same thing, painters tape works usually unless you are strong-arming the drill, then it can still blow through.
@@michaeljaques77 Yeah, also, you are getting burn because you are trying to force it and there is no where for the wood dust to go. The halfway trick is the way to go.
I just thought of this... Linus now has all the capacity and resources available to create an amazing 3d printing/cnc/engineering/mechanics channel. Maybe I've missed something and they already have thought of this but that would be so cool to see. I'd watch it for sure. And call it Linus Mech Tips or something like that hey? :D
Please, hell no xD The designs usually look good enough but for the realisation they should really get a tradesman who knows how to properly work with the materials and processes Edit: Sounded more rude than intended. It's just that as such a trained professional it really hurts sometimes to see what they are doing to the tools and materials. Like guys you have such a great reach I'm certain that you could easily get your hands on someone who knows his stuff and would like to give you some advice or tell you what you could do to make your lives a little easier. These little tricks you don't learn in any school but by years of experience
@@sfwreaths1 they tend to avoid doing stuff they aren’t good at but the biggest reason is that videos where they try to expand what type of content they do usually performs horribly, so if they end up making a loss on the video (usually those videos cost more to make) then the idea is scrapped.
I've been missing my regular dosage of Wintergatan for so long and I'm so so glad I've gotten to see this video. Expecting Martin's video of this PC soon!
revisited this and using all Wintergatan tracks for the BGM is such a nice touch. this was such a cool intersection of my specific youtube niches that I'm still in awe a year later
$99/year for solidworks is actually a pretty good deal. It normally costs $4,000 for their single bare-bones license. If you add technical support and other add-ons, like simulation packages, it grows into 10s of thousands.
The problem is autocad fusion which is very good is zero per year! I learnt solidworks at university but lost all knowledge because theres no point paying for it, and autocad was free.
@@vilemeister at least get the names right. Autodesk is the company, Autocad is their general CAD software, and Fusion 360 is their cloud dependent technically free CAD software.
@@castform57 wow that's pedantic. I did say autocad fusion... In one of your other recent comments you mention 2.5G networking, I'm afraid I don't know that you're referring to gigabit... However I thought this would be the same. It looks like the full suite which is worth it.
It’s interesting to watch y’all’s problem solving in this video and myself being a manufacturing engineer being like, “yeah that’s obvious.” But that’s just because this video has a lot more focus on my field than others
The SolidWorks thing is amazing, I was legit terrified that when I finished my University course I wouldn't be able to go back and tweak the work that I have done but this is actually something that I can afford.
It isn’t Solidworks. It’s a new program with the Solidworks name on it, with 5% of the functionality and a monthly subscription. Even Solidworks themselves tell their paying professional customers not to use the new product for anything real.
The Marble Machine was my jam back in the days. I would listen to it for hours. It really shows the effort of the craft he puts into making such an accurate working machine.
This is an awesome build! I really enjoyed watching this. I shared this with my brother who happens to have a laser cutter. He noticed your burn marks on the wood and said you need a blower. The blower will puff the smoke out of the way and prevent the charring you see around your edges such as on the music score. He uses a cheap compressor to "puff" the air.
I love that the gears sound almost like the sound old HDDs made when they were reading and writing tonnes of info. That occasional scratchy noise. It's so appropriate for a computer that looks that ancient.
I built my own wooden PC case, mATX, because I couldn't find a case to fit where I needed it. I worked out some amazing cooling, 240mm water loop, all that. I scavenged a MB plate from an old HP.
This is actually AWESOME!! I love these guys at Wintergaten, absolutely underrated musicians, with an incredible mechanical instrument. Love to see them getting recognized recently.
Watching LTT doing this wood case with bazillion staff involved. lol. I appreciate much even more DIY Perks, that one man is so talented, he doesn't need fancy, expensive, industrial, huge machines to build amazing stuff.
Wow! What a surprise! I've been following the production of the MMX for almost three years (i think) now and it's really great that Martin is getting more recognition through the LTT community!
As a child flew by myself a lot from the mid-90's on through to mid-00's, the airport in San Jose, California had a marble machine that I'd stare at for hours whenever my flight home to Phoenix, Arizona would be delayed, since then I've always loved marble machines and found great comfort watching them. I still remember the first time I ever watched Marble Machine, I thought it was the most incredible thing and such a beautiful song that by the time he got to the break I found myself in tears and even again as I'm recounting that experience. Still one of my absolute favorite internet things and pieces of music of all time. 🥲
Looking at the thumbnail and because of Veritasium's video a while ago, I thought this video was about making a wooden machine full of gears inside it that can do calculations like a computer. But a wooden PC case with working gears is still pretty sweet.
This was the coolest build I've seen in a long time. Beats out most things I've seen from other makers, the fact you used wood to make it, is tops in my book. Just perfect. Thanks!
LTT: "We're gonna build it, and if we see something's wrong we'll fix it" Martin: "That's my non-official moto, slaying the dragon" (turns on his grinder)
The very first time I saw that wintergatan video I thought it was fake. My brain didnt realize immediately that a human could make such a thing. Still one of the coolest things Ive ever seen on the internet.
As a big LTT fan, AND Wintergarten fan, I love this build. I'm sure Marten will definitely appreciate the maker aspect of the build and that he'll love the functionality with the form. Hopefully he starts making more videos again and this becomes his main editing/rendering rig.
Absolutely love that you guys go so far in designing and actualy producing cool and unique tech components. Big fan og the projects that Alex and the rest of the engineers at LMG do!
It would need relatively high RPM, plywood gears are not very suitable for that. And it wouldn't be easy to make these gears quiet... Maybe with large space between tooth, and some hidden, quieter transmission.
I've been watching for years now and I really appreciate the adult humor involved at times while making it subtle for everyone who chooses to ignore it. Its better than a 100% PC youtube channel.
As a tip for welding Weld the corners of what you intend to weld first to stabilise the join then weld the join.. Double check the amps aren't to high or too low and find sweet spot of amps for thickness of metal, in other words, too many amps will burn a hole through your medium and too low amps will cause sloppy welds and therefore will need grinding if to built up. Lastly, find your speed (ie. How fast you move your hands whilst welding) too fast and you'll end up with gaps.. too slow and you'll end up with too much weld and you'll need to grind welds to remove excess weld. The idea of welding is essentially stitching metal together or filling a gap between two or more pieces of metal.. Have a few practice runs before you apply to piece you intend to weld.
The marvel machine guy: Hey guys I could use a pc for 3D modeling, the part shortage is really working a toll on my efforts to shop LTT: *sends him a fire hazard*
Hey Alex, if you want some suggestions and help from a cabinet maker / woodworker, feel free to get ahold of me. There are some cabinet screws that help reduce potential splitting on the plywood (though you're more likely to get splits if you're close to the edge or if you're trying to screw down into the edge of the plywood, but these screws still help minimize the amount that it happens).
About the german word: "Fingerspitzengefühl" (= lit.: fingertip feeling, closest english word: instinct) does not specifically mean "being able to flawlessly remove tape", but is in general a compound word used for having extremly high care and skill and can be used for both, interacting with objects and people.
I INSTANTLY recognized Wilson on the thumbbail. I really hope that if you're watching this and didn't know about Wintergatan, please, go subscribe and watch his entire series. The saga is awesome!
If you want to remove a sticker without leaving any residue on the surface, the adhesive on the sticker should help you, just tap the surface with the sticker until nothing remains. It usually works for me.
For future reference - If you put a layer of masking tape on the wood before you etch/cut you’ll get a much cleaner finish on the surface with little to no residue
As a German i love that our language is filled with such words. Its also the reason i understand that some people think German is extremely hard to learn :D
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Thanks for having me! It was an absolute blast and joy to do!
This was fun! Curious, what was the word at 13:50? 🙂
hey I get to be near the top on a very liked comment
@@MichalKottman I was wondering as well, so I went back and listened a couple of times. I think it's 'Fingerspitzengefühl'
@@MichalKottman fingerspitzengefühl! It's German, literally meaning "finger tips feeling"
Hell yeah, Nerdland fans assemble
Woah, did not expect to see Wintergatan content here, but this is a welcome surprise!
Likewise, didn't expect to see DoodleChaos in the comments haha
Well it's a surprise to see you here.
Hi doodle
I dien't expect your comment here either!
Unexpected
Small tip: when you have to accommodate screws that are difficult to get at due to angle, use internal hex head screws, and ball end hex keys/drivers.
Ohh, damn that's a frigging useful tip.
I 3D print alot fo things and use hex head bolts, I never thought of using the ball end keys... thanks
You've genuinly blew my mind
Fun story about tolerance stack, I was working on fixing someone’s old cad model for a football stadium and nearly every concrete piece was off by *a few 256ths* of an inch. By the end of the stadium, from left to right, there was nearly a two inch gap at the side wall. Took forever to redesign.
As soon as Alex said that, I got flashbacks. Nightmare stuff.
Thats why you should use metric
@@coin777 metric v imperial is obviously not the problem here lmao
@@coin777 It would have just been off by micrometers instead... Changing the unit of measurement doesn't change the measurement itself.
@@coin777 Yeah so instead his comment would say "By the end of the stadium, from left to right, there was nearly a 5cm gap at the sidewall"
@@coin777 such a stupid comment i wonder if youll admit your mistake
"Fingerspitzengefühl" does not only describe the ability to peal of a sticker perfectly but its definately a good example
PS: It basically consists out of three words: "Finger-spitzen-gefühl".
Word for word it does mean "Finger-Tip-Sense".
If you say "Er hat Fingerspitzengefühl" it basically does mean "He is really precise with his hands". Yeah.. right.. it can have multiple meanings 😅
13:51 Ich verstehe nur nicht ganz warum im Video nur dieser Buchstabensalat steht...
@@ShowXTech weil der editor kein Deutsch kann und selbst keine Ahnung hatte, was da genau gesagt wurde 😉
Sticker-Spitzen-Gefühl would kinda work on this case--fan.
@@TheBurnout96 Can also mean that you are very careful in a social situation. Like telling your child that Santa isn't real might require some Fingerspitzengefühl
While it is rare to find woodwork in a PC build, most carpenters (especially cabinet builders) would advise applying wood glue along the seams of the frame. Skipping this common step is kind of like attaching a cooling tower without thermal paste. Once the glue dries it can more than double the durability of your wood project while reducing the chance of spitting the wood when inserting screws. You guys did a beautiful job, and I imagine it was a lot more work than this video showed.
In addition I would recommend Baltic birch over the regular birch plywood they used.
@@elliotthanford1328 ID ALSO RECCOMEND STAINING THAT WOOD BUT YKNOW.
@@IntelGMAgaming Oh god, I noticed early in the build but forgot by the end of the vid. Yeah...that really needed to be sealed, and the right stain would've added to the feel of the thing immensely.
Using wintergatan's music in the background is just the perfect touch.
(In case you don't know, you can download and use them for free)
Where?
@@julesvermillion321 th-cam.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/w-d-xo.html
@@julesvermillion321 just look at the video description, posting links gets the comment filtered for spam
Yeah.. We know that 😁
The description has a link on where to grab them!
You got Alex all he tools he wants, and he still holds up the paint table with a clamp.
He's evolving from an engineer to a fabricator. He's even learning that if you let the boss ruin it, you can save yourself grief when you ruin it too.
As a finish carpenter watching it take this much effort for you guys to make this makes me feel a little better about knowing the limited ammount i know about computers.
Takes all types
Missed opportunity for having a hard loop watercooling system set up to look like a marble run. Because wood, water and electronics is a flawless mix.
That way it'll be self-sustaining, the electronics light the fine sawdust and begin burning the wood, the fire is put out by the terribly installed waterloop leaks and the water causes more sparks.
Rinse and repeat!
@@JohnBread69 rinse and repeat.... literally
Better yet, use steel balls as the heat conduction material instead of water.
@@deusexaethera
Have you, by chance, heard of the “spin”?
@@tdoyr : No.
As a German it took me a few tries to understand the german word, but what he said was "Fingerspitzengefühl" which literally translates to "Finger-tip-feeling". It just refers to generally fine-motoric dexterity.
thank you. i didnt understand it the third time, gave up and hoped to find the answer here.
German myself. Had to read the comments to understand. And yes we have a word for everything. If not …. We make one
Ich hab es mir 15min lang angehört und nix Verstanden XD Danke dir
I'm happy to say that we have the exact same word in Swedish, "fingertoppskänsla". Love how you can build a new longer word by merging shorter ones. You Germans usually beats us by having the longest words though.
@@mabs503 Danish too.. fingerspidsfornemmelse. ;)
I have no idea how it could be a video, but I would 100% watch a video of Alex learning welding and Linus being shown how to properly, and safely, use power tools.
The irony of "starting it and fixing it as we go" being the whole reason Martin had to give up on the MMX.
At 1:40 he said "We could spend the next day polishing this up in cad, or we could just build it and fix problems at they appear." Had me laughing! That's gotta be a reference to Martin's struggles.
@@potterfanz6780 yeah they must be fans lol
He hasn't given up on it, he just realized that this version of the machine wouldn't be tour ready. So he is going to finish it, and then work on making a new version that will be tour compatible. Think about it like this, the first machine was just a proof of concept, this one is a working prototype, and the next one will be the "finished product" ,but seeing how Martin works it will be in a constant state of upgrading.
@@Kafj302 Yeah I remember him saying that in the last video, but the last announcement he made in the discord sounded less optimistic. Sounds more like he's just going to go ahead with the MMX-T in the future and is not going to be doing anything marble related for a while.
@@juliosnap i would say he is probably suffering from quite a bit of burnout, so give him some time. He isn't going away anytime soon, just relaxing i think.
Linus 2017: metal case
Linus 2019: cardboard pc
Linus 2021: wooden pc
It’s evolving just backwards
So next is stone?
Linus 2033: netherite PC
If anything wood is a step ahead from cardboard
@@b3n751 nether doesn't exist kid
@@dakoderii4221 mud hut PC 😆 🤣 😂
Wintergatan is my favorite TH-cam channel, it seems like he's been struggling with design aesthetics verses just getting things done, so thanks for helping him out! The gear shutoff switch is probably the best part of this build because he's been trying to reduce the noise of the marble machine for quite a while.
Let's hope Martin's back soon. wintergatan has felt quite deserted for the past six months.
I've followed Wintergaten for years, and I suspect that he'll love the design, but the execution will rankle - that man is an utter perfectionist.
I can see him taking the machine and post videos of him fixing every little issue he finds, and maybe add functions as well.
after he gets this he'll probably take it apart and fix the tolerances or completely remake all the pieces, but he'll definitely laugh about the inclusion of Wilson on the side.
You don’t happen to reside in New Zealand and play a whole bunch of brass instruments right??
"1/8th of an inch here, 1/8th of an inch there, next thing you know, the thing doesn't work anymore"
As a MMX believer, this quote sent chills down my spine
Wow. Fantastic
I love how Linus has progressively gone from "why would we need one of those" to "Get the build team almost w/e tool/gizmo/machine they say they need." including how over the same time he has become just about as nerdy as them to a point due to their enthusiasm.
what's "w/e"?
@@NoNameAtAll2 w/e means 'whatever.' So in that sentence.
"Get the build team almost whatever tool/gizmo...."
:3 ♥
02:11 "If it lights on fire, change the settings."
The same guidance works for PC overclocking!
If anything this just showcases the talent that works at LMG! I kind of wish there was more stuff like this on the channel because watching the team work together on projects like this is so nice to watch.
This is a perfect PC for Wintergatan, but whenever I hear a wood(grain) PC, I think LGR!
Same
needs more duke nukem to go along with the woodgrain
It’s not a wooden PC, it’s a wooden PC case. Whoopdie doo.
Wait, I’ve seen you before
He's angry and jealous now.
'When we find something that's wrong, we fix it.“ A PC Case built in the true spirit of the Marble Machine X. Martin would be proud.
Until he gets 99 percent of the way there and quits
The proper thing to do to silence the gears is to employ a double sided timing belt on the back side with equivalent gear ratios and make it so that the gears never actually touch each other. Your backlash is huge and that is I would say the main source of your noise. With involute gears the pitch circles should meet but not overlap.
These episodes with Alex and Linus engineering solutions to ridiculous problems or questions have real Mythbusters vibes. They are easily the best part of the channel.
Awesome, I have been following wintergtan and LTT since 2013 and this is a collab that I never expected, and never knew I wanted so badly.
Just seems like y'all have a great time. Love watching the crew work together and solve problems to make such awesome stuff.
"Building a box out of wood is not that easy."
Very true. Especially so when it's a computer case.
Not really that hard... Much easier with wood than with metal. You can easily fill holes, file stuff down, sand, cut, etc...
All of this is way more complex with metal. Plus tolerences are way less important with wood, as it is much more compliant.
All my PC cases are made of wood, and i have been doing that for years.
And if you have an amazing shop as they do, it's even easier! A CNC makes a lot of things easier.
Pretty easy actually
@@AudreyRobinel That statemnt is very relative to who is doing the work. Metal is easily patched and filled too, depending on size with either straight up weld or just weld in a new plate. For a metal worker / welder, slapping together a rectangle box is very easy. To a career carpenter or wood worker, the same or similar end product but out of wood isnt hard. To those who havent worked in either medium often, and dont have the experience to just look at something and know what to do - then both can be hard. Ive seen novices build some Horendous MDF sub boxes, and take like days to do it. So yeah... its just relative to the experience of the builder. I was raised doing alot of wood work, but as I grew older became a mechanic and got into welding and fab. If you asked me 15 years ago Id rather build something out of wood. Today Id choose metal, just because its alot more comfortable to me these days.
@@AudreyRobinel Absolutely right.
Lasering ply is such a PITA I've found 2 passes is the safest approach. LOVE the final result though, those moving gears were totally worth the pain. Where do you source the component CAD models from? 😍
I am actually working on an un related commercial wood computer case and I’d love to know that as well! Grab cad can’t be trusted. There are shockingly detailed models there but many of them are ever so slightly off, suggesting they were dimensioned from measurements.
We Used Grab Cad for most models and double checked them with our own measurements to see if they were correct. The gears were made using the original MMX gear models!
@@DrSkunk nice!
@@MakersMuse Feel free to DM me on Twitter for more info!
@@DrSkunk I noticed that you used wilson as one of the gears! That was such an awesome touch
The fact that I’m hearing Wintergatan in LTT video makes me miss weekly Marble Machine X videos even more. I hope that Martin has had enough strenght and motivation between his last update and today.
And sidenote, I have just watched about 3 minutes of this video but just wanted to get my toughts out straight away.
Im so out of the loop. What Happened?
@@Lowkas Martin spent 4.5 years trying to to build the Marble Machine X, a sequel to the viral instrument from 2016. The first Marble Machine didn't actually work as it was only ever able to play the full song once or twice, and would break constantly. The Marble Machine X was supposed to be a machine that was reliable enough to take on a world tour and play on stage.
In the end, as he grew as an amateur engineer, he realized that his initial plans were impeding the mission to create a machine that could reliably play music. Decisions made early in the project that were based on faulty assumptions or aesthetics were causing issues that had to be fixed. 6 months ago, Martin made a video proclaiming the project done. He was no longer going to be making weekly videos about not, nor even finishing the machine. Instead, he would be working on the Marble Machine X2, but wouldn't be doing the weekly video schedule he had been doing for the previous 4 years.
Last month he came back and has been making weekly videos about the MMX2.
@@samus88 well, he acknowledged that his strive for form perfection made the function impossible. We'll see where he ends up. He understands now that you need to design for function first and form comes second, so he has a higher chance of succeeding.
I love the creativity of these custom builds and the fact they aren’t perfect. The fact you enjoy doing these projects shines through.
NO first prototype will ever be perfect, thats just the nature of designing. You always run iterations before you get a final product out. Thats how it goes always.
A lacquer finish on that would have been awesome, it would have looked "more wooden" it looks a bit too cardboardy. But otherwise a pretty dope build. I'd love to see you guys work on a custom build with DIY Perks, his inventiveness and y'alls resources and technical expertise would definitely result in something beautiful.
Good way to counteract that blowout when you drilled the cable routing hole is to throw a bit of blue painters tape on it before you drill.
I really wish they brought a professional on fo this build. Frankly a wood worker or carpenter could have greatly helped them choose a more throughful build stradegy and could have pointed out the painters tape trick, better counter sinking, pocket holes for the joints and many more thigns obvious to someone who knows how to work with wood. This build was really cool but fell very short of what it could have been - even as far as just build quality goes.
@@daniel_poore if they brought in professionals for help everytime the channel wouldn't have as much merit. The beauty of this channel is to see the constant growth of skill and quality. Also them doing it purely on their own for the first time just shows the home user what the end result looks like with exactly that.
The next one they build will definitely be better.
…and soap or something slippery on the screw threads.
@@daniel_poore painters tape, or, once the center bit is through, flip the piece over and cut towards the middle from the reverse side. Both accomplish the same thing, painters tape works usually unless you are strong-arming the drill, then it can still blow through.
@@michaeljaques77 Yeah, also, you are getting burn because you are trying to force it and there is no where for the wood dust to go. The halfway trick is the way to go.
I just thought of this... Linus now has all the capacity and resources available to create an amazing 3d printing/cnc/engineering/mechanics channel. Maybe I've missed something and they already have thought of this but that would be so cool to see. I'd watch it for sure. And call it Linus Mech Tips or something like that hey? :D
That would be awesome
Please, hell no xD
The designs usually look good enough but for the realisation they should really get a tradesman who knows how to properly work with the materials and processes
Edit:
Sounded more rude than intended. It's just that as such a trained professional it really hurts sometimes to see what they are doing to the tools and materials.
Like guys you have such a great reach I'm certain that you could easily get your hands on someone who knows his stuff and would like to give you some advice or tell you what you could do to make your lives a little easier. These little tricks you don't learn in any school but by years of experience
watch WAN show, he says exactly why he wouldnt do stuff like that every time people ask.
@@jonathanodude6660 why
@@sfwreaths1 they tend to avoid doing stuff they aren’t good at but the biggest reason is that videos where they try to expand what type of content they do usually performs horribly, so if they end up making a loss on the video (usually those videos cost more to make) then the idea is scrapped.
As metric system user it makes me smile when Alex is talking about engineering and tolerances and also talking about 1/8 of an inch here and there..
From metal working point of view, those sound more like bending tolerances for a five meter pipe ha
Custom PCs and Wintergatan...two of my favorite things finally coming together!
True. I watch Wintergatan since he built the MM.
I've been missing my regular dosage of Wintergatan for so long and I'm so so glad I've gotten to see this video. Expecting Martin's video of this PC soon!
revisited this and using all Wintergatan tracks for the BGM is such a nice touch. this was such a cool intersection of my specific youtube niches that I'm still in awe a year later
I never saw this one coming (including the sponsor). But it's amazing!
It's kinda funny that Solidworks sponsored them when Martin uses Fusion 360
$99/year for solidworks is actually a pretty good deal. It normally costs $4,000 for their single bare-bones license. If you add technical support and other add-ons, like simulation packages, it grows into 10s of thousands.
And while I prefer SW over most other options: you will need the technical support.
The problem is autocad fusion which is very good is zero per year!
I learnt solidworks at university but lost all knowledge because theres no point paying for it, and autocad was free.
@@vilemeister Autodesk charges hundreds per year for hobbyists.
@@vilemeister at least get the names right. Autodesk is the company, Autocad is their general CAD software, and Fusion 360 is their cloud dependent technically free CAD software.
@@castform57 wow that's pedantic. I did say autocad fusion...
In one of your other recent comments you mention 2.5G networking, I'm afraid I don't know that you're referring to gigabit...
However I thought this would be the same. It looks like the full suite which is worth it.
It’s interesting to watch y’all’s problem solving in this video and myself being a manufacturing engineer being like, “yeah that’s obvious.” But that’s just because this video has a lot more focus on my field than others
The SolidWorks thing is amazing, I was legit terrified that when I finished my University course I wouldn't be able to go back and tweak the work that I have done but this is actually something that I can afford.
It isn’t Solidworks. It’s a new program with the Solidworks name on it, with 5% of the functionality and a monthly subscription. Even Solidworks themselves tell their paying professional customers not to use the new product for anything real.
@@noenflux well technically they tell everyone to go the 3dexperience platform rather than use one of their tools
The Marble Machine was my jam back in the days. I would listen to it for hours. It really shows the effort of the craft he puts into making such an accurate working machine.
This is an awesome build! I really enjoyed watching this.
I shared this with my brother who happens to have a laser cutter. He noticed your burn marks on the wood and said you need a blower. The blower will puff the smoke out of the way and prevent the charring you see around your edges such as on the music score. He uses a cheap compressor to "puff" the air.
I love that the gears sound almost like the sound old HDDs made when they were reading and writing tonnes of info. That occasional scratchy noise. It's so appropriate for a computer that looks that ancient.
I would have never expected this collab, but I'm so glad it happened, I love the Wintergatan channel
i love how all of these projects are the perfect mix of professional and pretty janky
I built my own wooden PC case, mATX, because I couldn't find a case to fit where I needed it. I worked out some amazing cooling, 240mm water loop, all that. I scavenged a MB plate from an old HP.
Tynan seems cool, I love the attitude he brings to these builds. Love to see him in more vids.
Came back here form the latest Wintergatan vid where Martin shows off this rig
I'm a big fan of including Tynan in more videos. His energy really added a lot to an already great video!
This is a really cool project.. It looks incredible, and the rotating gears really completes it. Awesome job everyone that was involved. 👌
I think Martin is going to love it. He hasn't made a new video in months, hope he makes one of him receiving this PC.
This is actually AWESOME!! I love these guys at Wintergaten, absolutely underrated musicians, with an incredible mechanical instrument. Love to see them getting recognized recently.
Whenever I see Alex with a big stack of raw materials I know it's gonna be a good video!
Watching LTT doing this wood case with bazillion staff involved. lol. I appreciate much even more DIY Perks, that one man is so talented, he doesn't need fancy, expensive, industrial, huge machines to build amazing stuff.
Bravo ltt crew this is absolutely stunning, a true masterpiece.
Dude Wintergatan is amazing! Love the Wilson detail
Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! (Wilson is the best)
As much as I look the raw, laser cut wood look, I think a little sanding, filling and sealing would've done wonders to this project!
I have been watching you guys for years, this is the "BEST" build you have ever done PERIOD! Love it.
Alex, I’m am also a mechanical engineer and I think you do amazing work. It’s always a pleasure seeing your projects! Keep it up!
This is one of the coolest episode! Congratz to Linus and his Team! It was fun watching you guys build this! Amazing work guys!
I really love Wintergatan's content, and this is the perfect collab
It took me like 3 tries to understand Sebastiaan saying "Fingerspitzengefühl"
Not gonna lie, the gibberish in the subtitles was hilarious
same here exactly 3 tries. but even though it worked there it was the wrong explaination xD
It took me 2 tries, but I was really confused to hear german at LTT
@@pokemonslepp i think they are kinda sperging out over us there atm many references :DD i welcome it
I love that you added his music in the background.
Wow! What a surprise! I've been following the production of the MMX for almost three years (i think) now and it's really great that Martin is getting more recognition through the LTT community!
As a child flew by myself a lot from the mid-90's on through to mid-00's, the airport in San Jose, California had a marble machine that I'd stare at for hours whenever my flight home to Phoenix, Arizona would be delayed, since then I've always loved marble machines and found great comfort watching them.
I still remember the first time I ever watched Marble Machine, I thought it was the most incredible thing and such a beautiful song that by the time he got to the break I found myself in tears and even again as I'm recounting that experience.
Still one of my absolute favorite internet things and pieces of music of all time. 🥲
Looking at the thumbnail and because of Veritasium's video a while ago, I thought this video was about making a wooden machine full of gears inside it that can do calculations like a computer. But a wooden PC case with working gears is still pretty sweet.
I love how they used martin's music as well. Props to you guys, this one gets a like
This case is definitely one where those Noctua coolers color scheme perfectly fits it... I love it
This was the coolest build I've seen in a long time. Beats out most things I've seen from other makers, the fact you used wood to make it, is tops in my book. Just perfect. Thanks!
One of the cooler builds out there. I agree with James the clanking steam punkness is so sick
As an engineer, this has been my favorite video this channel has done yet. Bravo!
LTT: "We're gonna build it, and if we see something's wrong we'll fix it"
Martin: "That's my non-official moto, slaying the dragon" (turns on his grinder)
Pain is temporary, glory is forever
The very first time I saw that wintergatan video I thought it was fake. My brain didnt realize immediately that a human could make such a thing. Still one of the coolest things Ive ever seen on the internet.
I loved this build! And the 2 guys were awesome helping in this build! Both Sebastian and Tynan were awesome during this build...
As a big LTT fan, AND Wintergarten fan, I love this build. I'm sure Marten will definitely appreciate the maker aspect of the build and that he'll love the functionality with the form. Hopefully he starts making more videos again and this becomes his main editing/rendering rig.
These are the best videos I look forward to their custom pc builds every time I see a new vid on the channel!!!
This build is so neat. The collab I never knew I wanted.
Absolutely love that you guys go so far in designing and actualy producing cool and unique tech components. Big fan og the projects that Alex and the rest of the engineers at LMG do!
seems as though they fixed the annoying audio issues
i adore this channel again
doubt that my complaints were the reason but thank you none the less
Really concept guys, impressive!
I wonder if fan blades could have been incorporated into the gears making them more utilitarian as opposed to simple decorations.
Soundtracks.
No. You would get the very loud noise when you truly needed the fans the most. Be hard to work or enjoy ambient noise or sound tracks.
It would need relatively high RPM, plywood gears are not very suitable for that. And it wouldn't be easy to make these gears quiet... Maybe with large space between tooth, and some hidden, quieter transmission.
0:18 I like the floppotron myself especially when it's playing the marble machine song.
Guys! This is beautiful! I love the time, money and effort you all put into this. This is great content right there! Love watching it! Thank you all 😊
I've been watching for years now and I really appreciate the adult humor involved at times while making it subtle for everyone who chooses to ignore it. Its better than a 100% PC youtube channel.
As a tip for welding
Weld the corners of what you intend to weld first to stabilise the join then weld the join..
Double check the amps aren't to high or too low and find sweet spot of amps for thickness of metal, in other words, too many amps will burn a hole through your medium and too low amps will cause sloppy welds and therefore will need grinding if to built up.
Lastly, find your speed (ie. How fast you move your hands whilst welding) too fast and you'll end up with gaps.. too slow and you'll end up with too much weld and you'll need to grind welds to remove excess weld.
The idea of welding is essentially stitching metal together or filling a gap between two or more pieces of metal..
Have a few practice runs before you apply to piece you intend to weld.
The marvel machine guy: Hey guys I could use a pc for 3D modeling, the part shortage is really working a toll on my efforts to shop
LTT: *sends him a fire hazard*
22:47 isn't graphite crazy conductive? Having a fine powder of the stuff anywhere near a computer does not seem like a great idea
**puts pencil on 3090**
**house explodes**
Linus gasping at the realization of linking the wheels speed to CPU temps gave me goosebumps.
Hey Alex, if you want some suggestions and help from a cabinet maker / woodworker, feel free to get ahold of me. There are some cabinet screws that help reduce potential splitting on the plywood (though you're more likely to get splits if you're close to the edge or if you're trying to screw down into the edge of the plywood, but these screws still help minimize the amount that it happens).
Been following the marble machine and never thought I’d see a LTT video relating to it ever.
Shame about the X build
About the german word: "Fingerspitzengefühl" (= lit.: fingertip feeling, closest english word: instinct) does not specifically mean "being able to flawlessly remove tape", but is in general a compound word used for having extremly high care and skill and can be used for both, interacting with objects and people.
Wintergatan is awesome, and deserve an awesome PC, from an awesome crew. Ok, that’s enough awesome for now.
I INSTANTLY recognized Wilson on the thumbbail.
I really hope that if you're watching this and didn't know about Wintergatan, please, go subscribe and watch his entire series. The saga is awesome!
If you want to remove a sticker without leaving any residue on the surface, the adhesive on the sticker should help you, just tap the surface with the sticker until nothing remains. It usually works for me.
For future reference - If you put a layer of masking tape on the wood before you etch/cut you’ll get a much cleaner finish on the surface with little to no residue
my friend actually made a wooden PC she called "Project Oak", it was an old optiplex that ran arch inside a wooden case she made
Arch btw
I had no idea the wooden PC is Swedish :O I love it. The way you said Wintergatan was yk, a bit fun.
peepee poopoo hahahahaha :D
*13:52
The same word translation in Swedish, "fingertoppskänsla"
Thanks, didn't understand it acoustically.
When an agglutinative language says they have a word for something very specific, they're technically correct, but it's kinda cheating.
As a German i love that our language is filled with such words.
Its also the reason i understand that some people think German is extremely hard to learn :D