"Episode I think 5 of the Last time Dratnos and I have successfully tried to rate bosses going into a new raid" is probably one of the greatest names of an Episode... nay a thing... ever.
Boss ratings are some of my favourite content because it's fun to see opinion differences both before and after raids and from world first race guilds lower cutting edge guilds. Always fun
As someone who hasnt WoWed since BFA watching these is fun for me because Max says "like X boss from shadowlands/dragonflight" and im like "naw thats just like this boss from WoD/Legion"
@@oregonsdank Based on recent raids, seems like having raids tested and given feedback by the best players in the world tends to produce encounters that are wildly unfun for most other people.
60 pulls is nothing lol,i dont think bosses like xavius are great,when your last boss gets killed in 5 pulls by even mediocre mythic guilds thats just wrong,im amazed they didnt buff that boss after lol
Led to some really weird shenanigans in that raid: M Champs was easier than like half the Heroic bosses, but the next Mythic boss (either Grong or Jadefire) was harder than any of the Heroic bosses.
Why do they keep saying that "civilians" do mythic raiding. Civilians hardly get through a few heroic bosses, if even. There are exactly 0 casual players that do mythic raiding.
it's gonna be hard for low end mythic... i still think only ~5-10% of players should be capable of playing mythic... just like hc should gearcheck you until you're fully upgraded normal geared.
I really HATED Sarkareth because of the damn purple stuff on purple floor. I'd love if Sark's room was more like Fyrakk. It needs to "pop" if it's swirleys and shit. GREAT execution, bad color coding. Thanks for listening
Imagine such a race would take a full month and bosses get easier if they got killed more often in your region with a debuff (-0.5% health / damage per kill in your region till 50% or so). This would make the race way more interessting as you would hope on the top guilds of your own region to kill so bosses get more and more in range for the average Mythic Raider.
First boss could actually be an issue for pug groups, especially on lfr when often first time players join in but hopefully at least that whole feeding the boss mechanic gets removed from lfr at least, other difficulties should not have much issues dealing with this i don't think, hopefully. As a first boss, can't say im a fan of it, first boss should be a fun doorway into the raid, this boss doesn't look fun at all mechanics vise
its fine,the people who know what to do can just cover,even on hc i dont think you need to go back,when i did it this week i took food once as ret on a horse and i didnt need to go back
It would be cool if for the first boss it was a kiss curse… like if you’re holding the meat your slowed but can cast all abilities while moving (as a ranged) and you have a 40yr range on all melee abilities (if melee) so you can continue attacking but if you don’t feed the boss after X time it puts an indispensable debuff causing you to be slowed by x% and it reduces your damage by 25% for like 10 seconds so you are incentivized to feed but can also hard you don’t you aren’t holding the food and abusing the mechanic for too long. Not necessarily this but a different concept.
great A+ tier video, really enjoyed the immersive background noise of people stomping around in valdrakken i thought i was going schizophrenic with the constant left-ear noise 🍞
Seen as Dratnos came last in creating the best class.. what qualifies him from commentating on raid bosses. He needs to get back to opening great vault videos.
Why did chat not pick up on this .... on Rasha'nan one of you gave a C and one of you gave a C- and said 'what's between those?' ..... and it ended up getting a C+?? C+ is better than C
@stewartphilp85 There's clear enunciation on Dratnos saying B-. If they clearly both immediately agreed the middle was C+, maybe consider you're hearing isn't picking up on it
Interesting watching you newer guys learn what several of us OG's have mastered. Today we exist in guilds that half-ass and joke the whole raid, and still pull a top 30 as a guild and top 10s as players. interesting how there's 2 generations going, 1 here on youtube/twitch, and 1 in the backrooms of discord and older chat programs.
okay im going to say it..... pruple ground, purple spell effects, blizzard. stop. the hard part of a mechanic should not be strictly visual. that shit's annoying.
I hope as a casual gamer that me and my group will wipe on normal like 100 times a boss. I want these raids to be difficult. Like 1000 pulls to get the endboss would be amazing. Otherwise it doesnt feel like an achievement to just oneshot everything like in the last raid
@@melipnos We do heroric and mythic after always. But I think they should be even harder. Raiding is the only thing we do in wow. Do not have time for more. So we want it to be as hard as possible
Like anything, you get bored doing it too much. I havent done CE raiding since bfa and im getting the itch for this tier. Only thing im never excited for is the compulsory council fights...
this guest is look very nerd :/
A little slurp today
He would be cooler if he did pirate transmog irl
Yeah. Definitely less cool than that Fronk guy
You’re a pimp stop lol keep killin it guys
Yea
I’m so glad fronk enjoys doing all of these things max and dratnos ask of him
He enjoys money.
"Episode I think 5 of the Last time Dratnos and I have successfully tried to rate bosses going into a new raid" is probably one of the greatest names of an Episode... nay a thing... ever.
Boss ratings are some of my favourite content because it's fun to see opinion differences both before and after raids and from world first race guilds lower cutting edge guilds. Always fun
Hell yeah, this is the kind of long form content I want!
As someone who hasnt WoWed since BFA watching these is fun for me because Max says "like X boss from shadowlands/dragonflight" and im like "naw thats just like this boss from WoD/Legion"
You play wow long enough you see the same fights remixed over and over.
Not that thats a bad thing IMO.
coming from ff14 its crazy as fuck to me that in this game you already know all the bosses before the game is even out
Beta testing is pretty important and there is no one better to test than the best players in the world
@@oregonsdank Based on recent raids, seems like having raids tested and given feedback by the best players in the world tends to produce encounters that are wildly unfun for most other people.
@@daniellucas5522saying this after amirdrassil is wild. raid was goated.
@@cronosdimitri4584 and tindral was beyond awful for most people.
@@daniellucas5522 As a melee dps, Tindral was insanely fun
We need a mole people category as well
boss gradings lets go
Dr. Atnos can teach me spanish through the strategic use of shrek any day
the clicking noise in the background is driving me insane 👾
No more tier lists from my boy Max, we "grading" everything now. I like it, picasso.
"are you a rock guy?"
Fronk the real mvp of the channel
Im kinda mad at Max for keeping up with the "They dont tune for us" shtick. Smolderon taking Liquid 60 pulls means IT WAS tuned for them.
u think the game should be even easier?
@@cronosdimitri4584 I think final boss should be as hard as Smolderon
To be fair, only WF and "hardcore" Guild would make it before the nerf, so its very likely that the tuning is for them
60 pulls is nothing lol,i dont think bosses like xavius are great,when your last boss gets killed in 5 pulls by even mediocre mythic guilds thats just wrong,im amazed they didnt buff that boss after lol
Civilians, like you're seal team 6 or something. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Champion of the light giving me a winter soldier reaction
Led to some really weird shenanigans in that raid: M Champs was easier than like half the Heroic bosses, but the next Mythic boss (either Grong or Jadefire) was harder than any of the Heroic bosses.
@@jacobtafoya2462 grong was a joke,and jade was a bit annoying,but in no way hard,until mechagon nothing was difficult
Why do they keep saying that "civilians" do mythic raiding. Civilians hardly get through a few heroic bosses, if even. There are exactly 0 casual players that do mythic raiding.
Ok
thausands of guilds kills multiple mythic bosses my dude
Grade all delve bosses
it's gonna be hard for low end mythic... i still think only ~5-10% of players should be capable of playing mythic... just like hc should gearcheck you until you're fully upgraded normal geared.
I am 1000% sure i saw this video last week or the week before that. Is it just reposted content or a fresh edit?
Let's go dratty
Heck yea
Asked my daughter about the spider. They crawl up the water spout.
I really HATED Sarkareth because of the damn purple stuff on purple floor.
I'd love if Sark's room was more like Fyrakk. It needs to "pop" if it's swirleys and shit.
GREAT execution, bad color coding.
Thanks for listening
I find it a bit criminal they didn't give Rasha'nan a final letter grade of AI+
Fronk deserves a raise.
Fronk! Fronk! Fronk!
Seems like they had a lot of single target fights last xpac so they are making up for it this raid
race is 100% gonna be longer than 9 days. thats assuming you're killing queen 2 days into mythic opening which is just not happening.
when Dratnos said "yuhhh" i felt that
Where can we find the vod of the chinese guild who pushed the boss to the end ?
Good upload Fronk
Whats with the "civilian" thing?
Casual gamers vs the slimy elitist hardcore gamers
i always remember it, women pull their tights up their leg. so Stalactite is the one that comes from the ground up.
'Stalactite' and 'ceiling' both have C.
'Stalagmite' and 'ground' both have G.
Stalactite has to hang on tight to the ceiling so it doesn't fall off so I might it's just on the ground
Imagine such a race would take a full month and bosses get easier if they got killed more often in your region with a debuff (-0.5% health / damage per kill in your region till 50% or so). This would make the race way more interessting as you would hope on the top guilds of your own region to kill so bosses get more and more in range for the average Mythic Raider.
new thumbnail face when
First boss could actually be an issue for pug groups, especially on lfr when often first time players join in but hopefully at least that whole feeding the boss mechanic gets removed from lfr at least, other difficulties should not have much issues dealing with this i don't think, hopefully. As a first boss, can't say im a fan of it, first boss should be a fun doorway into the raid, this boss doesn't look fun at all mechanics vise
its fine,the people who know what to do can just cover,even on hc i dont think you need to go back,when i did it this week i took food once as ret on a horse and i didnt need to go back
thanks for buying so i dont need to buy :D
"civilian" still is not your word, civilian...
It would be cool if for the first boss it was a kiss curse… like if you’re holding the meat your slowed but can cast all abilities while moving (as a ranged) and you have a 40yr range on all melee abilities (if melee) so you can continue attacking but if you don’t feed the boss after X time it puts an indispensable debuff causing you to be slowed by x% and it reduces your damage by 25% for like 10 seconds so you are incentivized to feed but can also hard you don’t you aren’t holding the food and abusing the mechanic for too long.
Not necessarily this but a different concept.
na,just have the boss take more dmg after feeding
Max u cutie
bugs are always small annoying and all over the place. come on dratnos!
U need some new glasses bro
great A+ tier video, really enjoyed the immersive background noise of people stomping around in valdrakken i thought i was going schizophrenic with the constant left-ear noise 🍞
just mute the video 4head
Casually calling us civillians is wild
Don't feel too bad, we got applicable work history. Wow will die someday, it's going to wreck these guys.
They also call themselves slimy elitists
@@michaelmoran2125they can always jump to another mmo or game, or use their following to make other content
@@ChromaticEaglewhen wow finally gives up the ghost, I think that'll be it for MMOs. I'd be happy to be wrong about that though.
Just happened to check the channel, no notification this was up :/.
It's time to retire that thumbnail.
Seen as Dratnos came last in creating the best class.. what qualifies him from commentating on raid bosses. He needs to get back to opening great vault videos.
Why did chat not pick up on this .... on Rasha'nan one of you gave a C and one of you gave a C- and said 'what's between those?' ..... and it ended up getting a C+?? C+ is better than C
You misheard, Dratnos said B-.
Was doubting myself so double checked. You're wrong, not me 😂 @ThatOneGuyCR
@stewartphilp85 There's clear enunciation on Dratnos saying B-. If they clearly both immediately agreed the middle was C+, maybe consider you're hearing isn't picking up on it
Your*
@ThatOneGuyCR dude are sure you're listening to the same boss? It's 100% what I said lol
Did Fronk put eldritch horror noises into the background of this video?
The 3,2,1 thing KILLED ME
Interesting watching you newer guys learn what several of us OG's have mastered. Today we exist in guilds that half-ass and joke the whole raid, and still pull a top 30 as a guild and top 10s as players. interesting how there's 2 generations going, 1 here on youtube/twitch, and 1 in the backrooms of discord and older chat programs.
lol
Huh
@@melipnos Hi, multi-time top 10 ranking priest here. The community you are aware of is not the only one. (Although this youtuber acts like it.)
@@RobedLogic you're talking like you're sitting on the highest horse imaginable
@@melipnos spoken like someone incapable of ranking.
69th like, hell yea
okay im going to say it..... pruple ground, purple spell effects, blizzard. stop. the hard part of a mechanic should not be strictly visual. that shit's annoying.
I hope as a casual gamer that me and my group will wipe on normal like 100 times a boss. I want these raids to be difficult. Like 1000 pulls to get the endboss would be amazing. Otherwise it doesnt feel like an achievement to just oneshot everything like in the last raid
If normal is too easy, maybe try a harder difficulty?
@@melipnos We do heroric and mythic after always. But I think they should be even harder. Raiding is the only thing we do in wow. Do not have time for more. So we want it to be as hard as possible
Max can you unban me :(
So happy I quit CE mythic raiding. These just don’t look fun anymore. Part time job with no pay.
Like anything, you get bored doing it too much. I havent done CE raiding since bfa and im getting the itch for this tier. Only thing im never excited for is the compulsory council fights...
Grading? Are we back to school fronk
I know its supposed to be a meme but calling non-mythic raiders civilians is so cringe and makes the analysis near unwatchable
Literally can't watch anymore because of the civilian meme. It makes Max seem unbearably narcissistic...
Stay mad civvie
@@user-jt1bi6id6n weak, unbattle-tested civilian mind
???? Brother what are you saying ????
@@user-jt1bi6id6n See ya, civilian. Don't let the door hit you on the way out!