Normalize your audio, guys! The spoken bits are turned way down and only on the left channel. (This is the THIRD!! CRF450L first impression video in a row that I've posted the same comment!)
I just don't see a reason to "settle" on this. Once we are talking over $10,000, might as well start looking at KTMs, Tigers, BMWs, etc. The weight is nearly 300 lb. That puts it close enough to the KTM 690 Enduro R. Well, the KTM is cheaper, has a bigger gas tank, nearly 2x the horsepower, and killer suspension. Sorry, Honda, but your price point has us looking at REAL dual sport bikes. You already have a winner with the 650L. Just modernize that dinosaur and shave 40 lb off that steel frame.
I hear ya. Spring 2018 I was on my way to look at a Craigslist 650L and my buddy found a 2004 KTM 625 SXC in the same area. I didn't know that bike even existed, or anything else in that family like the 640. We were able to make contact and meet the guy immediately. Test riding, I don't think I even got out of 1st gear before I knew the KTM was going to be mine. Never felt such a smooth, constant acceleration. It was a no brainer. Roughly the same price but 40 lbs less. Hopefully Honda will update the 650L next. They updated the 250L, created a 450L, … the 650L would be logical. If I remember right, the 650R was ~300 lb, so we know Honda can do it.
Well, yes she has almost 300 pounds but that makes here still at least 60 pounds lighter than the KTM 690 and don't forget, that though the engine has been tuned down to be more smooth and shit, it's still a 450 MX engine and those are far supperior offroad to these 690 roadbike engines.
I agree. They wont give you the whole picture. The ones that do give you the whole picture... all stop getting invited to test ride the bikes. But nah I doubt the power is flat and gutless. This bike is making mid 40s horsepower. Which isn't fast by 450 standards, but its a fuckin fast bike! For how reliable I'm predicting this bike will be, it seems to making great power.
Liniar is a good thing. It's not gonna feel like a mx bike. I bet it's like the ktm 500. Huge power but manageable. Not many riders want a 250 2 stroke for the street.
When was this ride? September maybe since thats the only time we have gotten any amount of rain. Where did you ride at Packwood? It's funny you say the suspension is a little soft but other guys said it was firm, or maybe I misunderstood...
$10,400+$330 destination charge. My 2017 xr650l was over $7000 msrp with destination charge, bought it new for $6500. If you pay $12000, you're getting shafted.
I understand. Been to Canada many time. I thought you may have been adding sales tax. We have a few states that don't have sales tax or property tax on vehicles. Have a good one!
Heard during this press event that someone who shall go nameless grabbed a handful and wheelied into the group of testers!!! Guess this bike has more than initially rumoured only 25HP (super low due to emissions) after all!
Here's the explanation from the guy himself... th-cam.com/video/EszJCM7rbEk/w-d-xo.html I don't buy it. He blipped the throttle and wrecked himself and some unsuspecting victims. His excuse is bullshit.
@@numbzinger350 wow I'm surprised . It's just weird the entire deal as I don't see how u do that in that situation. Thanks for sharing the link to the video.
@@crazyrebl but the guy has ridden bikes for years and has at least one at the moment if not more than one, so he's definitely not a rookie. I haven't ever ridden a modern 450 so I can't say for sure what it would take to loop out at that slow of speed in a parking lot approaching a group of others also test riding the same bike but it's just weird.
What Dual-Sport? This is an all in Enduro bike with maintenance measured in hours and a high-price for sub-par performance in comparison with its competition. You guys presented all the useless info about this model and left out the important parts. What about the high maintenance costs, the non-upgradable ECU, the 7L fuel tank, the heavy weight? These sure sound like paid reviews...
Normalize your audio, guys! The spoken bits are turned way down and only on the left channel. (This is the THIRD!! CRF450L first impression video in a row that I've posted the same comment!)
You can just copy the single channel to the other to make a stereo pair. The 'mishap' was in post, not in recording.
I just don't see a reason to "settle" on this. Once we are talking over $10,000, might as well start looking at KTMs, Tigers, BMWs, etc. The weight is nearly 300 lb. That puts it close enough to the KTM 690 Enduro R. Well, the KTM is cheaper, has a bigger gas tank, nearly 2x the horsepower, and killer suspension.
Sorry, Honda, but your price point has us looking at REAL dual sport bikes. You already have a winner with the 650L. Just modernize that dinosaur and shave 40 lb off that steel frame.
I hear ya. Spring 2018 I was on my way to look at a Craigslist 650L and my buddy found a 2004 KTM 625 SXC in the same area. I didn't know that bike even existed, or anything else in that family like the 640. We were able to make contact and meet the guy immediately. Test riding, I don't think I even got out of 1st gear before I knew the KTM was going to be mine. Never felt such a smooth, constant acceleration. It was a no brainer. Roughly the same price but 40 lbs less. Hopefully Honda will update the 650L next. They updated the 250L, created a 450L, … the 650L would be logical. If I remember right, the 650R was ~300 lb, so we know Honda can do it.
Totally Agree, I would have liked it if it had longer service range
Well, yes she has almost 300 pounds but that makes here still at least 60 pounds lighter than the KTM 690 and don't forget, that though the engine has been tuned down to be more smooth and shit, it's still a 450 MX engine and those are far supperior offroad to these 690 roadbike engines.
Riding a dual sport at 60 and getting headshake? Lol
Aaron Oosterhoff I know the fuck.. We ride them shits 5th gear tapped with out no steering dampener boi chillax
Yeah I literally go 150kmph on my DRZ no stabilizer, what are these kids saying
my left ear enjoyed this video.
Bro put that vocal in stereo. But great video for sure! Concise.
a problem I have with these bike reviews is that they tell what's good but not what's bad. ie does linear power delivery mean flat and gutless?
I agree. They wont give you the whole picture. The ones that do give you the whole picture... all stop getting invited to test ride the bikes. But nah I doubt the power is flat and gutless. This bike is making mid 40s horsepower. Which isn't fast by 450 standards, but its a fuckin fast bike! For how reliable I'm predicting this bike will be, it seems to making great power.
Liniar is a good thing. It's not gonna feel like a mx bike. I bet it's like the ktm 500. Huge power but manageable. Not many riders want a 250 2 stroke for the street.
Yes it's as flat as witches tit I'll be keeping my crf450x
When was this ride? September maybe since thats the only time we have gotten any amount of rain. Where did you ride at Packwood? It's funny you say the suspension is a little soft but other guys said it was firm, or maybe I misunderstood...
But will it have the maintenance intervals and reliability of a 250l
no
What I'd like to know is, how come the side number panels keep shrinking every year...?
Looks pretty great 👍 !
This is more expensive than ktm 790 duke with an adventure coming. 2k less than Africa twin 1000cc. Too extensive.
its expensive as fuck even here in Japan, hopefully it gives suzuki, yamaha and kawasaki a kick up the arse to make their own updated duel sport 450s
I'm curious at the interval to check valve lash
If the bike was toned down a bit and had long service intervals, it'd be the perfect bike.
great bike on rode and dirt!! : )
at $12,000 and maintenance schedule measured in hours, I will take a pass
$10,400+$330 destination charge. My 2017 xr650l was over $7000 msrp with destination charge, bought it new for $6500. If you pay $12000, you're getting shafted.
the msrp in Canada is just under $12000
I understand. Been to Canada many time. I thought you may have been adding sales tax. We have a few states that don't have sales tax or property tax on vehicles. Have a good one!
Welcome to the dirtbike life. Its really not that big of deal we been doing it for years.
Its the price you pay when you want a street legal dirtbike.
Dont buy it you cheap fuck. Its a freaking CRF450R with plates.
Any idea why they call it 2019? its still 2018. Its out this year...
The car and truck industry does that all the time releasing next year vehicles in October.
Stupid question of the day
Heard during this press event that someone who shall go nameless grabbed a handful and wheelied into the group of testers!!! Guess this bike has more than initially rumoured only 25HP (super low due to emissions) after all!
Here's the explanation from the guy himself... th-cam.com/video/EszJCM7rbEk/w-d-xo.html
I don't buy it. He blipped the throttle and wrecked himself and some unsuspecting victims. His excuse is bullshit.
Legendary cringe!! I would of faked my own death if i was him. Haha!!
Travis Donald Stanly. No way. That was a pure rookie move 100%
@@numbzinger350 wow I'm surprised . It's just weird the entire deal as I don't see how u do that in that situation. Thanks for sharing the link to the video.
@@crazyrebl but the guy has ridden bikes for years and has at least one at the moment if not more than one, so he's definitely not a rookie. I haven't ever ridden a modern 450 so I can't say for sure what it would take to loop out at that slow of speed in a parking lot approaching a group of others also test riding the same bike but it's just weird.
Never ride scared bro.
Shut the fuck up
CycleCruza you don't know shit about riding get the fuck out of here.
Dream Honda motor CRF 450L
What Dual-Sport? This is an all in Enduro bike with maintenance measured in hours and a high-price for sub-par performance in comparison with its competition. You guys presented all the useless info about this model and left out the important parts. What about the high maintenance costs, the non-upgradable ECU, the 7L fuel tank, the heavy weight? These sure sound like paid reviews...
the audio on your video is too low
Why only one channel of audio? Humans have two ears for a reason. Please give us two channels of audio.
Fix audio please
Pathetic review. "It doesn't bottom out. It's what we've come to expect from Honda" 🤣
Better to get an Swm rs500r/rs300r low price tag and low weight
Voice overs ...but I would prefer to fix my debit however possible over anything in life
17.500 USD in norway
Wow.. ten grand plus?.. think that I will save a little more get a Harley Davidson!
It's a 2 gallon tank.. um.. nice 60 mile at best! Prove me wrong sir! Have a great day!
Step up your audio game
BUT . Its not a KTM !
That and I have a 2018 500 exc and I know that Honda would not compare to it
Good it is not
Honda=Apple
get micro
Shame it's overpriced as hell.