Our Top Ten Overrated / Overhyped Board Games
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- There's nothing better than cracking open a new board game and getting a group together to play it with. There is one thing that can go wrong though: What if the game doesn't live up to the billing? That's why this week we made a list of the games that we believe are the most overrated or overhyped out there.
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0:00 Intro
2:55 Number 10
14:21 -Number 9
27:20 -Number 8
39:39 -Number 7
50:55 -Number 6
59:12 -Number 5
1:07:55 -Number 4
1:19:53 -Number 3
1:33:34 -Number 2
1:48:08 -Number 1
2:04:18 Honorable Mentions / Outro
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Elitist much? Target has some great board game sales, but I guess game sales are for us peasants, not the Almighty Gatekeepers
It does. And I buy games from Target too. But if someone has only ever bought games from Target and has never seen the actual reach of the hobby then I do think less of a list of "best games" by that person because they've only seen less than 1% of the hobby. They don't need to see more if they don't want to. They can be happy that's not only fine, but preferred. But if someone said, "I haven't played a board game since clue but I think Dune Imperium is a poorly designed game I'd want a really good explanation why -Dan
Back in the olden days (like 10 years ago), when people were not assholes about everything, this would have been titled: "Games I/We Don't Like." Nowadays, we have to add a veneer of telling other people that the way they think is "wrong". Suggesting that people who like "Villianous" are not "real" gamers is the height of gatekeeping and board game snobbery.
I like games that are over hyped. So that would be a misleading title. There’s nothing gatekeeping about saying these games probably get too much attention, I feel game X deserves more love. If you play games, you’re a gamer, but there are definitely different levels. We also strive to define the reasons we feel the way we do. So was Villainous the only game on the list you had an issue with?~Tim
@@BoardGameRundown it’s not the game, it’s what was said around the description of why the game is “overrated or overhyped“ or whatever. It’s the clear implication that there are “real“ gamers, and those other people. And we can dismiss the opinions of those other people, and no “real” gamers like Viilianous.
Ps. I think V is a crap game. But I don’t actively disparage people who enjoy it.
@@chuckm1961 I get it. Dan could have used different words to describe levels of peoples involvement in the hobby. ~Tim
More top tens please! I loved every second of this. :)
Thank you for watching! We will definitely be doing more, and are always open to suggestions if there’s a top 10 you’d like to see. ~Tim
I only played Lords of Vegas once so far. But it was one of my favorite gaming experiences.
Was recommended to check out your channel from the @Around the Board channel. Nice discussion here! Liked and subscribed :)
Awesome, thanks for stopping by! I enjoy Around the Board as well.~Tim
Fireball Island nooooooo!!!!! Someone call an ambulance, because my Nostalgia is dying.
First time viewer. Didn't realize you were in Indy. Just requested to join the FB group
Thanks for the video!
We are North of Indy, in South Bend. Let us know if you’ll be at Gencon!~Tim
Unusual and interesting topic.
Keep looking for such discussions.
Thank you. We are always open to suggestions if there’s a topic that you want to hear discussed ~Tim
Thank you! - Mike
The pain of hearing D&D being on here...and having never played it! 😭 It was like hearing someone trashing Star Wars but never seeing anything! Great video as always! Would love to see more....or....perhaps you all play a one shot together and then rate it? 😄
Oh I will run a 1 shot just to get Andrew to play. I think we can get it off his list.~Tim
Im on the same camp. Hate rpg and have zero interest and play it....
I’m surprised the BGR crew didn’t throw me under the bus and tell you that I’ve also never seen Star Wars in its entirety, and… yes, I also think it’s overrated. Ahahahaha
(I saw the first one, to be fair, and turned it off at the fight scene between Darth Vader and some other old guy. 😴)
Yeah, honestly, this was just a straight up bad take. It would be like saying "Oh my goodness, Gloomhaven is SOO overated. I *hate* how you're rolling dice all the time." If you're going to criticize something as overrated, you need to at least know what you're talking about. Is there an argument to be made that D&D is overrated? Absolutely. But what was being attacked was a strawman of D&D.
That said, not liking reading books probably also means that you're just not the kind of person that is going to enjoy it in the first place, because D&D does normally revolve around a story of some sort (even if it's a paper-thin one to justify a bucketload of dice-chucking combat).
By the way, the end game of Inis was fixed with the expansion. It's a simple rule change that doesn't actually require the expansion. You just need to look up the "We Need A King" module and maybe print it out as a reminder.
Thank you for that info! I might have to check that one out again.
If you don't like the drawing cards in Ticket to Ride, use the 1912 expansion with the warehouses. You can use it on all the games, except maybe Rails and Sails.
Really enjoyed this, you have a great group together and present the list in a very entertaining way! I've subscribed to the channel.
Just wanted to add my strong disagreement with Spirit Island, as it's my favorite game of all time by quite a stretch. I don't know why it fell flat, but I'd recommend trying at least with an adversary on level 4 and do you best to beat it. I promise it'll get quite challenging and you're starting to have to make some really meaty and important decisions to beat it.
Also I quite love Dice Throne, but I understand why it's not for everyone.
My biggest disappointment was Dwellings of Eldervale. It's too much about the presentation and not too much substance. I didn't really like it that much when I was quite excited about it.
I’m really glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for sharing why we were wrong! I love great conversations, and a lot of time it comes from people with different perspectives. Dice throne sells a bajillion copies, and I get why it’s popular, but for whatever reason, it’s never landed with me. And I like dice chuckers…. Anyways, glad you found us, and if you feel like it, hop on the discord, and/or feel free to enter our giveaway! ~Tim
I have only played Inis once. I thought it was fantastic though. Bought it immediately after.
Would be interested to know, have you played Dinogenics? It's similar to Dinosaur Island in a way, but with differing dinosaur effects and less garish artwork. I prefer it to Dino Island but my games group prefers Island.
I need to play DinoGenics!~Tim
@@BoardGameRundown I highly recommend. Amazing game components. The artwork is a little dull and dark but your player board will look amazing!!
@@faye13l I have only heard good things. ~Tim
@@faye13l I need to play it as well! - Mike
This was an awesome list. New sub, watching more content!
Thank you! We will have more top 10s coming soon. We also take topic suggestions in our discord. - Mike
Glad you found us! Join the discord for more shenanigans!!~Tim
Awesome. Yeah #1 I haven't seen this topic on other channels, #2 educational, and #3 hilarious takes on some of these games. Excellent job 👍
I personally like villainous because I play with non gamers. It's a step above normal family games. I think its a bit long and solitaire-ish, but it's fun.
Man I totally agree with you guys on Viticulture. I found the card draws were so swingy and prohibitive, including the visitors. It seemed that MOST of my cards were unusable unless I went out of my way to build something up. I do not get the love for it. I think if the cards were in an open market it would make the game 1,000,000x better.
They put out a new deck that sort of fixes this, I can’t recall which one but it refocused the game on wine production.
I believe it’s Rhine Valley Something. I’m just not that interested in this point lol. I was told the Tuscany expansion is a MUST, I got it, felt like the game still had issues, don’t want to get two expansions deep to fix some fundamental problems (in my opinion). I’m moving on.
I should also say, I don’t dislike it but I also wouldn’t pick to play it over most games.
@@utahman06 hmm. I feel like my only problem was with those original cards. They drive me nuts, just way too swingy. I wonder if the issue is that most folks build their wine making engine first and then get the contract cards. I usually try to get those first and then build the engine to fit that order. Or just have a more flexible array of grapes. But there are a lot of games out there, not your bag then move on.
Have you played Terriforming Mars: Ares Expedition? It's apparently much shorter and better looking
I have and actually did enjoy it quite a bit. A really fun and interesting way of implementing the Race for the Galaxy card mechanism in there.....and shorter! Lol -Dan
Candyland while terrible, is for very young kids. To teach them counting in an active way.
I agree with spirit island being overhyped.I regret buying it instead of Mage knight ultimate edition
I had both of them. Sold Spirit Island, and I'm not capable of selling Mage Knight, it's sooo goood
These are some really interesting lists! Mine would be Anachrony, Spirit Island, Mansions of Madness, Robinson Crusoe & Dungeon Petz. I don't like Anachrony because of iconography overload & the others are mainly because they are unnecessarily difficult and/or fiddly.
Man there are some good games on your list! But that’s the fun part about doing these. ~Tim
I truly love Anachrony and Dungeon Petz is a timeless classic for me. Thanks for watching - Mike
Some good picks. Guess I need to try out Ankh!
Let us know what you think when you do!~Tim
A really entertaining discussion! I think Spirit Island desperately needs at least one of the two expansions. I also found the base game rather meh and felt it seemed hugely overrated. But the tokens and event cards in the expansions really bring the game to life and totally transform the gaming experience.
Jumanji is quite possibly the most overrated board game. The pieces don't move on their own (you can remove the pieces anytime without completing the game) and your actions in the game do not affect the world around you. Basically, it is False Advertising the board game, and it should be buried and forgotten just like the movie board game.
Haha. Nice
Well played sir. Well played. ~Tim
I agree with Fireball Island. My buddy bought it and brought it over. I played the original so I was excited for the reprint. Played it. It was boring. I would play it with my kids but never with adults again.
So one more question. Will you do a video on "the most underrated games"? Maybe have a challenge where the games are 1000 or higher on BBG. Or do a video on "don't play this game, play this instead" top 10 list. Where games are similar in style, mechanic or theme. And tells us why. Thanks. Have a great day.
We are planning one that currently. Very likely our next top 10. You think the criteria should be that they aren’t in the top 1k?
@@BoardGameRundown Sure why not. But you four work it out. I'll be watching.
@@jdober77 we will. Thanks for the great suggestion
Is the game you mentioned as "knock knock punch" around 43:00 Kapow?
Yes! That's it.
Spencer owns it and we both enjoyed it when we tried it. -Dan
Dan is wrong, it’s Knockdown from Awaken Realms~Tim
Incorrect Tim. We were talking about a game similar to Dice Throne at that point which is Kapow. It has the exact same mechanisms and Spencer and I played it at his house. Knockdown is basically a card game. Kapow has the dice combo mechanic from dice throne and I believe also has customizable dice like dice realms. -Dan
lots of commercials.... but good job, good commentary. Felt like I was watching ESPN's College Gameday.
Yeah sorry about the ads, but I’ll take the Gameday compliment, I’m a huge college football fan.~Tim
Spirit Island and Villainous are two of my absolute favorite games. I've played at least 100 hours of each. For different reasons. Spirit Island is a big, crunchy game that is super fun to learn the different spirits and their powers. It's not something that I'll play with other people. I generally don't like co-op games with other people, I usually just play them solo. It's also much better to play the game purely solo, just one spirit, before you ever play it with more than one spirit. Because that's how you learn the spirit. Playing with multiple spirits is only really for once you've learned the spirit and then experimenting with how the different spirits can interact. And don't even touch the adversaries and scenarios until you really understand the spirits you're playing with. It's something that you really need to take your time with, let the game breathe a little bit, don't jump into the deep end right away. Let the game show you what it can do.
Villainous is super fun to me, probably because I do love Disney, but also because it's just fun to have different characters with completely different decks that are all trying to do something different. It's basically multi-player solitaire, but you're also playing the heroes of your opponents. I love learning the different villains and their strategies and trying to get good with them.
Then, according to these guys, you're "not a gamer". Lmao My jaw dropped when I heard that. Really disappointing to hear that kind of mentality in the hobby.
I wouldn’t say you’re not a gamer. We just like different games, and I think other games may deserve more attention, and some of these on our list don’t deserve all the attention they get.
@@BoardGameRundown Yet your channel, did in fact call people who think highly of Villainous "civilians" and that they're "not gamers".
@@mrmaybe79 We said those things while searching for a better term and while clearly remarking at how ridiculous they sounded. At the end of the day there are some simple facts that you can take offensively if you wish, but weren't meant that way. They were meant to be informative. Someone who only watches Michael Bay movies isn't a "cinephile." That's just how words work.
@@BoardGameRundown And yet, I am a board gamer and love Villainous. Not just Villainous, multiple different games as well. That's not a fact. That's a matter of opinion. You can't have a fact about a person's taste in art. Who's to say that a person who only watches Michael Bay movies isn't a cinephile? That's incredibly judgmental. I could just as easily say that the only true gamers are people who only play Monopoly and Clue and anyone who plays other things isn't a true gamer. It's entirely a matter of opinion. Gatekeeping is not helpful for the hobby. We want MORE people to get into board gaming, not less. Telling someone that they're not a real gamer because you don't like their favorite game is unnecessarily exclusionary. I don't like Catan, but I'm not going to tell people who love Catan and have that as their favorite game that they're not real gamers because they bought it at Target instead of a game store.
Lords of Vegas is awesome. It does so many things well. It's a good negotiation game, good tile laying game, good dice placement, good take that, and even good push your luck. I will say that it needs the up expansion for replayability and strategic options though. Otherwise you can tell who will win halfway through the game.
Lords of Vegas is an all time favorite for me. And UP is a great expansion
We are fellow members on team Lords of Vegas. Dan is the minority in our group. - Mike
With the Viticulture criticism, the guy third from the left said it correctly, none of those things are problems (e.g. not having the correct grapes or the correct wine orders), they are mitigated by just making better decisions and adjusting your strategy based on early card draws. You can get wine orders relatively early to know what you should go to but also you can be sure that you'll likely need both red and white grapes and you can mix grapes to make rose and sparkling wines. And he also correctly pointed out that any game that has random card draws introduces the possibility
I loved the rant about the Geekway experience. Golden.
Have you ever been?
@@BoardGameRundown I have not and I live close. I am originally from STL. I have wanted to go but something always comes up. I did go to Dice Tower East and had lots of fun there.
I just liked the rant because it was real and a good story. I think I like some board game rants because I know that the reviewer is being real and not selling out to big companies. Plus there is some humor in it to me. But I am sorry that one person or group has tainted your experience of a game. There are a couple of games that I would like better bit outside influences have given me a bad memory that taints my experience a little. I have that problem with Reavers of Midgard.
I think you might have been playing Inis incorrectly. The complaint was that victory conditions are checked at the end of the round and then if someone has the condition then you play another round and see if they still do. In Inis you actually would win at round end if you had met victory conditions and no one else had.
There is a mechanic where you have to annouce that you have met a victory condition during the round (take a pretender token), but this isn't much like what was being said.
That being said, it is true that the game lends itself to ganging up on whoever is closest to winning, and there are a lot of kingmaking opportunities in the game. I have also had some games go long because people will tie a bunch and that can extend it. One of the modules in the expansion (which doesn't require any extra pieces and can be implemented into the base game if desired) addresses this by giving tied players a bonus before entering the next round and making it so that future tied rounds will result in a shared victory. I have always found it really intriguing trying to avoid being the target and then trying to swoop in for a win.
It’s been ages since I’ve played, so I didn’t argue with Mike, but maybe he played it wrong, or didn’t remember correctly. ~Tim
Also like Catan, best to be in second place until the end. Then you snipe victory away from the leader.
Yea, and his criticism is still fair given that it does lend itself to that ganging up on 1st place. Enjoyed hearing y’all’s thoughts on the video btw!
@@raincoatsfordogsrfd953 thanks for the kind words and for the rules correction!~Tim
@@raincoatsfordogsrfd953 It has been 5+ years since I played it so it's most likely I explained the rule wrong but the game dragging out and the beat on leader issues you mentioned still sum up why it didn't work for me. Thanks for watching! - Mike
I disagree about Villainous franchise.
I understand we hyped b/c of Iconic characters but all characters have asymmetrical which brings a lot of strategy to the game. The power tokens are meh (i agree) but there is so much replayability.
i play Euro games and Mage Knight and i don’t consider Villainous to be a mainstream game at all. Most non-gamers wouldn’t like to play this game unless they are curious about board games.
I have two main complaints about Villianous:
1. Holy crap is it long with 4+ players and there is nothing to do when it is not your turn. AP can be a big problem and make it even longer to sit there and watch everyone else take their turns.
2. The nature of the fate deck means that the perceived leader just gets piled on and makes the game last even longer.
The theme is fun but every time I play I am underwhelmed and it takes so long.
@@tbahr123 I can see that being a problem at a higher player count. Honestly, I would never play any villainous game at 4 player 😅 I mostly like two player games or solitaire so that’s not an issue for me.
In my experience, the Fate action is not played that much unless I feel like in a tight situation and must use it to prevent my opponent from winning. In a lot of cases, the Fate deck can either work for your or against you.
I appreciate your feedback 😁
Villainous isn't asymmetrical. You have to be playing the same game to have that. In villainous, everyone plays their own game that shares the action selection mechanic. That also means winning is pointless. It just means they completed their solo exercise first. If you decide to look up at the other people around the table, you will notice everyone just looking quietly at their cards or board. It's awful.
@@grog3514 I could swear that is that term for a game where factions/characters play totally different from each other similar to Root 🤔🤔🤔you kinda racing to achieve your goals and win the game! What do you mean by winning is pointless ? 🤦🏻♂️
yaaaassss the legion continues to deliver...
Ticket to Ride is great to play with family and non gamer friends. It's actually fantastic for that. I think it would just be boring to play with experienced gamers.
I still play ticket to ride, if my family or friends want to play, (anything) I’m down. Let’s have fun. ~Tim
The fact that he mentioned D&D but has never played it is really annoying to me. You cannot tell if something is over-hyped or overrated if you have never partaken in it.
Here’s where we disagree. You believe in “partaking” where I believe in “observation and optional partaking”.
Upon further observation, rejecting optional partaking…
I refuse to believe that D&D is NOT overrated.
I will throw in my 2 cents here, while I disagree with Andrew’s pick, I also get being sick of hearing everyone talk about D&D and how awesome it is. Does that make him right? No. But all these lists are subjective, so what can you do. Thanks for watching and commenting. ~Tim
I think there for sure is viability to it being overrated. Dan's stance on why Magic being overrated I think also plays into D&D and the elitist mentality. For me though in order to know if something is overrated though I would need to rate it myself, if I have never played it I cannot rate it, therefore cannot deem it overrated or underrated.
The beauty of these lists is the subjective nature of them for sure. It is the reason we all get to have an opinion and share thoughts, with hopes others are adults and can respectfully agree to disagree sometimes
Absolutely! I am glad for the conversation. ~Tim
I totally agree with Viticulture. It’s okay but way too long and way to lucky.
Bloodrage is amazing. My first time playing the game i didnt enjoy the game, i belive is they way i got teached the game (was well explained, but was just the rules) Everytime i teach this game i explain some of the most easy combos to exploit (Loki for example ). If you play with a first timer you have to hold back and explain or it will be a bad experience, but after you play with a second time the game shines
It’s definitely an excellent game, but experienced players will usually crush newbies. But IMO Ankh is so much better.~Tim
@@BoardGameRundown ankh is awesome
Blood Rage can definitely be sloppy and swingy and I feel like some of the monsters are way too strong considering it’s largely luck if you get them in your draft. But it’s always a good time as long as players don’t mind that it’s more bone headed silliness than super strategic seriousness.
@@BoardGameRundown I wish you would do a VS for Blood Rage, Inis, Ankh. I just do not understand why Ankh is better.
@@Tjorriemorrie I would
Love to do a comparison video, but it would
Be Rising Sun not Inis. (If we are sticking with the same designer)
37:00 👏 Thank you! Someone who actually understands me! I just don’t understand the stack and how you can instantly lose it by breaking it up - and distributing them to multiple territories - but losing the fame at the same time. There is no fulfillment to me.
you are right about terraforming mars, should be top 1.
It has theme, resource managment, draft, light take that, competition for map and milestones, asymetrical powers and most important cohesion.
It only lacks poor art.
I like TM, but I do think there are more enjoyable games that do similar things out there. ~Tim
Your wrong Smallworld is the best entry level area control hands down! Except for El Grande of course!
I love El Grande!!~Tim
Oh thank you thank you. I like wingspan but it is SO way over hyped.
Lords of Vegas is amazing!
It is a great game! Dan just has bad taste~Tim
Paul, welcome to the LOV bandwagon where we also crap on Dan's opinions :) - Mike
I would be interested to hear Mikes alternatives to Inis that he thinks are somewhat similar but better
Blood Rage because the card draft feels similar - Mike
Folks trashing Candyland as a game and comparing it to games meant for older kids (Connect 4 is more ages 4+) or even adults is ridiculous to me. It's like criticizing a picture book because it isn't Shakespeare or Dickens. Candyland is meant to be one of the first games a child ever encounters, at ages 2-3. This is before they know how to read and when they are hitting the stage of brain development to be capable of more interactive play with others. Candyland absolutely does teach. It teaches counting (# colored squares on the card), colors, and basic mechanics of gaming such as taking turns (which is also socialization skill-learning), drawing cards, moving pieces forwards and back (and even the concept of forward vs. backward), etc. All set in a fun, candy-focused world. It's just right for its intended audience at their level of brain development. Compared to other board games for the same demographic of 2-3 year olds (Feed the Kitty, etc.) it holds its own just fine.
Shots fired! Knock Andrew off his high horse!! I appreciate the valid points!~Tim
Thanks for the input.
I think quality comes in tiers, regardless of complexity. While you make a fair point about Connect 4 being for older ages, Candyland is outdated, overrated, and thus needs to experience some revitalization.
You could be one draw away from defeating your two year old, only to draw a Peppermint card, sending you back to the start. It’s random, it’s unfair, and I want a way to strategically beat my children in games* in order to establish the hierarchy in the household.
* she ended up winning because of that damn card. Unfair.
I wanted to say that Andrew got burned. But he gave a good burn back. Getting interesting.
I need to listen to this episode to get full context. Part of me agrees, but I do think there are better 1st board games for even 3 year olds out there. Example is sneaky squirrel, because it at least has a little decision making involved to start to teach board game mechanics. Candy land still has a spot on our kids shelf though, and it is fun that my 7 and 4 year old can take it off the shelf and completely setup/play the game 100% correctly without any help.
Andrew is also the only person to put a 💯 kids game on this overrated list. So I will not claim any responsibility for his nonsense~Tim
why would you put Candyland on list? what about checkers or chess?
Because Andrew is a madman who only wants to sow chaos. ~Tim
Mike. Thanks for the comment. A lot of people are ragging on this video because we are attacking Target (and other big chain stores) buyers. ((Or people who only play games sold at Target, Walmart, etc.))
Well I think if we’re going to be inclusive to the Target gamers, then they (yes, even the 3 year olds) are to be held under the same standard as the rest of the board gaming market.
In conclusion, to be as inclusive and equitable as possible with my ratings…
Candyland falls under the axe as an overrated, overhyped, and overpurchased poorly thought out waste of cardboard.
More to come in a future video.
If you haven’t tried Inis at two players, it solves all of these criticisms. Becomes a tight, chess-like battle of wits, and it’s one of my favorite two-player gaming experiences.
I love Inis anyways, but I need to try it 2 player. ~Tim
Sold my copy years ago :( - Mike
Wingspan is so much more fun when you hold a bird draft to start.
I really like this idea~Tim
What a great round up of board game experts. I really enjoyed your ranking and expertise. I myself have 30 years of board game experience and have played most of the Top 200 games as well. Unfortunately, I have to vehemently disagree about the Honorable Mentions: Robinson Crusoe is not the most overrated but rather most underrated board game of all time. I have to admit that the rulebook sucks and the game may have an alpha leader problem, but everything else in this game is just great: the artwork, the game mechanics, the random components, the decisions that can be made, the modular system with which countless missions can be played - just breathtaking and unique. My absolute number one. But for me it should be ranked Top 10 at least. And sorry for my bad English, I am not a native speaker.
Thanks for the comment. I like Robinson Crusoe as does Dan. But that’s why we have variety on the panel. All kinds of different opinions. ~Tim
Your english is excellent! I think the rulebook ended up souring me on gameplay but admittedly it was 6+ years since I have played it. Thanks for watching! - Mike
I do love TRFM.. but ya... I think that the base game components are so bad that it is unplayable without the new boards. When I bought it, it was $70 at Barnes andvl Noble. When I opened the box I was so disappointed that I had to buy after market boards before playing it. All that said, I love it still and it is SO much better than Under Water Cities.
Lies and slander! :P I can't get into it. I just find Underwater Cities much more enjoyable for me. -Dan
@@BoardGameRundown I hadn't heard about the errata to fix the obvious broken part of Underwater Cities. After two plays it was obvious to me that all I had to focus on was gaining that one resource that shall not be named. So that deflated me and my wife's experience. I am glad the designer made a rule correction for it. 10 points for TRFM :)
Basing my list on games I have played at least 10 times and are in BGG Top 100. It just happens that my order matches BGG's.
I expect I'll get hate for listing Scythe #1. Teotihuacan would be #3 if it wasn't ranked 45 spots behind Viticulture.
1. Scythe
2. Wingspan
3. Viticulture
4. Teotihuacan: City of Gods
5. The Voyages of Marco Polo
Stick by your list man! No shame in that. Even if I do like Scythe and Viticulture quite a bit. ~Tim
I love Scythe. Love it! But I do feel similar about Teotihuacan. I wanted to love that game but it felt boring to me.
Nope, I totally agree with you on Scythe! That is quite over-hyped. I found it to be an ok game, but don’t get how everyone keeps talking about it.
Well I will totally agree that Scythe is overrated. We are in the minority.
When I say I play boardgames people don't even know what Ticket to ride or Carcassonne is, they always say oh Like Monopoly or Cluedo...When I try to explain in a way that might interest them or get them to play they just don't get it
Unmatched is a reimplementation of Star Wars: Epic Duels. Fireball Island is definitely a game for nostalgia/kids.
My wife agrees with the evaluation of Inis...we actually sold it as we never played it.
The other day I was reading about an end game variant that extends the end game and I cant help but think how terrible that would be. That's the worst part of the game! - Mike
I do agree with you on all the game i played, even wingspan, i have a good time playing it but it's not as good as i though it would be. I don't know if Quacks is overrated but it's a nice family game.
I would add :
1. 7 wonders family (all of them)
2. Code Name
3. The crew
4. Living Forest
5. Azul
6. Lost ruins of Arnak
I love your list! Azul could/should have been on mine. ~Tim
Yes to LRoA!!!
I see a lot of people here saying Arnak. I enjoy the game, but find Dune: Imperium just much better. -Dan
@@BoardGameRundown Dune is WAY better, agreed
@@BoardGameRundown Arnak feel linear to me, after playing i didn't feel the need to buy it, but Dune imperium was an insta buy xD so much tension and fun !
2:02:28 Actually it’s “Crabs Adjust Humidity”.
Can't believe the alternative to Carcassonne that was offered was a multiplayer solitaire game.
Oh man and now I just heard Kingdomino is better.
I have to ask, when you guys play Carcassonne do you play with fields? Do you fight over fields? Or do you ignore fields?
My wife and I fight over every dang tile. But I don’t have the dislike for Carcasonne that the other guys do. ~Tim
I just don't see what makes it great. I didn't actively dislike it but I also haven't played it since and probably wouldn't ask to. - Mike
When I was a teen and played cards against humanity for the first time it was hilarious, but that's the problem, it was 1 time. After it's done it's done
Can’t disagree more about Dive Throne. Great art style and gameplay, plus easy to teach to new game players
I just don’t have fun playing it. I know I’m in the minority, but it is super accessible.~Tim
I believe that the retail version of Fireball Island was changed to reach a price point for big box stores.
Chronicles of Crime isn't really a game. It's an experience like Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective. Both are best played solo or at 2.
I really enjoyed the alternative mentions. It would be helpful to list each of the hyped game with the alternatives per person.
I feel like there are 2 lists here.
1. the family friendly games that may be hyped but gamers are more reluctant to play.
2. The over rated gamer games.
That was kind of a last minute idea for my choices, so I kind of dropped that on them at the last minute.
God so right about some of the games, especially Small World, god it is terrible.
Add text, list, pictures of the games?
As a Magic player I will say its one of my favorite card games, but I do play board games and other card games. I have two groups of friends though, one that only wants to play Magic and the other that hates Magic and only plays board games or standalone card games like Sentinels. One of the points to the video was how Magic players just say its the best game out there and dont like anything else is wrong. I play D&D, Pathfinder, Magic, Flesh and Blood(I wish my friends would actually play this with me...), and other board/card games. I will say I don't really care for Yu-Gi-Oh! I even grew up playing with some kids from school and had a simple Blue-Eyes White Dragon deck which after a few years just stopped being playable. I also grew up playing Magic and always had more fun, I still have a Mono-Green deck from my childhood that is decent, I make upgrades once a year on it. I also have had more people in my life play Magic than Yu-Gi-Oh! so I go with the former. It's also not the greatest card game ever. I like Cribbage way better.
Edit: Just finished the video. I would like to throw Gloomhaven as my number one over-hyped game. I think it may have been the people I played with but I just didn't enjoy it and honestly didn't see what the hype was about.
I was also surprised that 7 Wonders wasn't said by anyone. I love that game, but the base game is too simple. And all I've seen when I go to other people's places to play games is the base game, drives me nuts. Finally is Catan for me. I love resource gathering and Catan helped get my feet wet in the early years of my adult life and finding good board games. But I would rather play anything else.
As a Magic player (online) myself, I will say that in my experience, most hardcore magic players only want to play Magic. Not that I blame them. But then I discovered deck builders and jumped whole heartedly into boardgames. Bob and I used to play rpg’s and Magic together, then I dragged him into this hobby with me. So not ALL MtG players are bad 😎😎~Tim
@@BoardGameRundown I do have to agree with the hardcore scene. Use to be apart of it. And all they do is Magic, talk, breathe, sleep, etc.
I do see how it's divisive to some though. One of my friends is super good at the game but will never buy his own cards because he has told me he will fall in deep.
Also great video, got recommended to me by TH-cam. I will be checking out more of this channel.
@@redmageviewer thanks so much! Feel free to join up on the discord, we’ve been debating overrated games there all day. It’s been wild. ~Tim
I saw Magic in the thumbnail, and thought “YES!”
Magic is soooo overrated it has continously boggled my mind since release. Bad resource distribution, turn structure(helped a bit by the stack). Recent years with a mix of bad development, greed and “wokeness” has turned me off the game completely.
That being said, it is the game i have played the most, by a huge margin.
Dont get me started on organized play..
Seeing as how you enjoy resource gathering, might I recommend Glen More II: Chronicles?
These complaints about Viticulture are just "I don't understand how to play Viticulture" lol. Also it sounds like you want Tuscany, for opening the other point strategies wider.
These guys are nuts, I love Viticulture. ~Tim
I know how to play Viticulture. The lengthy investment to finally create your order is too long for me. That doesn’t mean I don’t know how to play. If anything I’d say that reinforces the fact that I know how to play…
Quite masterfully if I say so myself.
Putting the bad cards revealed back to the top of the deck, this is the exact mechanism to use when you have absolutely no idea how to design the game. Pandemic is disgusting to me.
Lol You’re not in ALL OF the Facebook Groups ;) #BoardGameHype
I am now!~Tim
1:21:28 It would still take a bunch of turns and a lot of time to do that.
Terraforming Mars (ugh, my #1 over-rated/-hyped), Ticket to Ride, Pandemic: Legacy, Carcassonne, Wingspan, Dominion, "Hamilton: the Board Game" plus many more sacred cows here... I am so on board for this 100%. ❤ Also, much love for Dune: Imperium.
They are all great games. I just like some other games more 😬😇~Tim
That's just a list of games that are popular. Just because a game is popular doesn't mean it's overhyped.
If it’s more popular than better games? Then yes in my opinion, it’s over hyped, or over rated.~Tim
One could make an argument that if a game was better, it would be higher up the list on it's own merits. However, I think the issue is far more with the BGG ranking system than anything else.
@@PRC533 it’s all about the hotness on BGG, and not everyone uses BGG, so the rankings can be skewed.~Tim
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Is this the place where we build our “street cred” by running down things that a lot of people like? That’s awesome, never seen anything like that on TH-cam! Well done, fellow edge lords.
I think it’s perfectly fine talking about games we don’t love as much as other people do. I enjoyed the debate. Also we often fully acknowledge that many people will disagree with us, as they should, these games are popular for a reason. So if that makes us “edgelords” lol, then I guess that’s what we are…~Tim
Carcassonne is brilliant at 2 with just base game.
Also, what is great with Carcassonne, and more games should do this, is that you're building comunal board. Isle of Skye is better, mechanically, but still you're building your own thing.
Carcassonne is amazing. Best with 2, good with 3, would not play it with more.
the first overhyped game I experienced after starting in this hobby was Seasons..... OMg people were crazy about that game and I was like...why. Probably too long ago to be on anyone's list
Never played Seasons, but I do remember when everyone was losing their mind over it. Doesn’t appear to have had much staying power….~Tim
It was one of my gateway games. I liked it but also didn't go out and buy it.
I couldn't agree more about Pandemic Legacy. I have had a campaign halfway finished for over a year and I would rather play pretty much any other game I own than finish that campaign. I think the addition of the new "disease" was really unoriginal and we saw it coming from a mile away.
Right! I mean, it’s pandemic! Like a new disease is that shocking lol. ~Tim
@@BoardGameRundown Now that we're in the replies I feel like I can just say that zombies are what basically killed our interest in the campaign. If I'm playing pandemic, I want to do it for a specific reason. If I wanted to battle zombies I would go play zombicide or one of the other 1566851683 zombie games.
@@PRC533 there are a million of them, and there’s probably at least 20 better ones.
I kind of agree about Quacks of Quidlenberg being over hyped. I just think the rat tails catch up mechanism makes it a little disappointing.
I love Quacks!!! And I think the rat tails are a cool idea….~Tim
Tim...cmon man...rat tails? I will admit though...I like them better when I am losing than when I am winning. 😀
I like the catch up mechanic even though it isn't thematic whatsoever. I also love the game but Dan's gameplay example was hilarious and on point. - Mike
@@seniscram7958 I mean what else can you throw in there to beef up your pot? Also it’s kinda funny and gross~Tim
Wanna play good pandemic? Black orchestra!!!
Where are wingspan and everdell?
Tim had wingspan really high. Like his 2 or 3. - Mike
Great video. Got to figure out what you all like compared to myself. Funny and hurtful at the same time to hear you totally hate on some games I really like.😪🤣
Thanks for watching. I am just glad all the games are getting loved, even if I don’t love them. A lot of this is just giving each other a hard time too. Fun times all around. What are some of your favorite games?~Tim
Glad to hear you were able to enjoy this even if we bashed some of your favorite games. We enjoyed filming this immensely! - Mike
@@BoardGameRundown Not many things better than giving a good friend a hard time over his taste😁. eg I get abuse for my love for First Martians🥲.. this would be in my top 10 under-rated games, hence the abuse.
I find I get out of a game what I put in, so voices and back story when playing Sherrif of Nottingham are a must.
Last game I picked up was Scythe and for me not overrated at all.
I think one of you mentioned Spirit Island and I think solo this is amazing but multiplayer I think is overrated.😬
Mage Knight is my no 1 game and I will hunt anyone down (and make them play) who thinks this is overrated.😂
I look forward to your next top 10, I think you guys have a great chemistry there.
@@harrylee1896 I love it! We are all just having fun here and I’m glad it comes through. And Sheriff is a must play, especially if you do the characters. ~Tim
@@harrylee1896 Thank you for watching and the high praise! We are considering an UNDERRATED top 10 next. Stay tuned! - Mike
The mind is definitely overhyped. But it's also enjoyable filler. It's not a wave or anything, but if I want to bring out an easy gimmicky game, the mind isn't bad. It's just not the best game ever.
Huh, not aware of anyone who says it is the best game ever. I think people who enjoy it .... think it's an enjoyable filler.
I would probably put Ankh as one I think it boring/overrated and others love. Haha
Omg Ankh may be my favorite game from last year!! My heart is breaking!!~Tim
Bummer. Most of us love Ankh but that's okay because not everybody has to like the same games. -Mike
Got so tired of the comparissons between Lords of Waterdeep and Champions of Midgard, especially the rhetoric that the only reason people liked Waterdeep was because of the D&D theme. Well, I'm nordic, so vikings are kinda in my genes, I've never ever played D&D, still vastly prefer Lords of Waterdeep to Champions. Champions was more or less a rinse and repeat of get more dice, lose dice fighting monsters, get more dice. Board felt static, basically no player scaling. In Waterdeep at least we build out the board, we have intrigue cards and plot quests. Way, way more fun.
Hated Inis (I'm not generally into area control, but I especially hated Inis), the whole experience was drafting the same stupid cards over and over again, thinking I can play a card only to be told I can't, getting beat on over and over again because even if you pass the opponent can just keep doing it. Horrible experience. Kill it with fire, please.
I love Voyages of Marco Polo, it's among my favourites. I keep hearing the contract strategy being superior argument, but I keep playing the travelling strategy and for the most part I make it work well and I tend to win. Obviously I don't ignore the contracts, it's all about making it work for you. Traveling contracts are a great way of getting outposts out if you use them at opportune moments. The income and city abilities can be great. Marco Polo 2 does more balance out travel with contracts, but I still have a great time playing Voyages.
Wholly agree that Dominion and Carcassonne are vastly overrated. I thought for a long time that I hated deckbuilding - no I actually love deckbuilding, I just don't like Dominion's style of deckbuilding. And Carcassonne is essentially all about the luck of the draw. Every time I have played it it feels like I keep drawing stupid roads and opponents draw better things. And yeah, people argue that you can play a blocking strategy - but I HATE playing a blocking strategy in games, so there is just zero appeal to Carcassonne. There are SO many vastly superior tile layers now.
However, love and adore Ticket to Ride, still my go-to intro game for people and I have played nearly every map there is.
As for Terraforming Mars, I love both it, Underwater Cities and Ark Nova. Happily play either of them and they're all in my collection. I definitely am more of a purist with Terraforming Mars, prelude is the only expansion I use (I got custom upgraded boards before they released the official dual-layered ones). I agree about the production critisisms, but love and adore the game.
I haven't listened yet (definitely plan to), but just seeing MTG in the thumbnail has completely triggered me. I'm now completely irrationally enraged.
Lol! I can’t wait to hear your thoughts!~Tim
Ok, back after listening.
My age/friend group when I came into MTG likely plays a big role in my thoughts, because i cant argue with much of what you said. I got into MTG mostly during the Odyssey block in 2001, when my friend and I were in 8th grade/freshman in HS. We scrapped together cash for booster packs, tried to piece together decks together in our parents basements, and pulled all nighters testing our decks against each other. Still the height of my gaming life. We then discovered tournaments at game stores where we took our cobbled together decks that we had so much love for, and got completely crushed by 'old guys with decks they bought individual cards for off ebay'. That did kill the 'magic' for us I will admit. We thankfully found that joy again by doing booster drafts (because it recreated that feel of being with your buddies and experimenting with card combinations).
So in summary, I see where you are going... Can't really disagree, but MTG still holds a top spot in my history of gaming joy.
1:38:48 It must be Miniature Market.
Bingo!~Tim
I agree with a some of these -- Dice Throne (It helped me to figure out that I dislike the yachtzee-like mechanic in most games) is one of my biggest disappointments of games I've purchased. I believed the hype. I played it several times with friends, thinking that the next time, I'd probably enjoy it more, that I might be missing something. And I never liked it. I hid it far in the back of a closet so that my friends would not ever see it on my shelves and think to ask to play it.
Other hyped games that I've had bad times playing include Wingspan, Lost Ruins of Arnak, Puerto Rico, and Smash Up.
BTW, back in the day, I reviewed MTG for a regional (New Jersey) publication right around when it was first released. I didn't like it, but I did recognize and report on how I thought it might be a decent collectable. Putting my money where my mouth was, I made enough money on Magic cards that I was able to pay for a nice vacation to Europe (Paris, London, Edinburgh, and Glasgow, plus the World Science Fiction convention in Glasgow) solely based on reselling about 50 to $100 worth of unopened magic display boxes.
That’s a cool story about the Magic cards. Glad I wasn’t the only one who struggled with Dice Throne~Tim
I’ll buy Dice Throne off ya 😉
As a fan of the dice tower I enjoy most of what I listen to but I do want to say that I did have a few issues with this episode. Please understaffed that this is meant a constructive criticism and not a dig in any way.
1. There was a lot of banter trailing about each game which freaky added to the length. This is a bit long for this and makes if tough to sit through.
2. There were a few comments made about gaming that come across as gatekeepers. Eg. Growing when someone tells you they're gamer but play Ticket To Ride or Azul. We all start somewhere and some of us still like those games. I've enjoyed The Dice Tower abs just felt like comments like those really go against the channels goal to promote gaming.
3. I found it a bit odd that many of the games that were chosen fit this episode had never been played by the person picking the game. D & D would serve a the best example of that.
I enjoy the channel and all of the personalities so please don't take this as a personal attack, just an observation.
We are not above criticism, and yes, we have a debate all the time (off camera) regarding what a good episode length is.
I think it’s a sliding scale and also depends on how entertaining the banter is.
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. ~Tim
Hey, we always appreciate constructive criticism. Thank you for your input. I agree that a good 25 mins at least could've been taken off of the video. I think one thing that contributed to this is that most the information shared was new to even the other hosts. So banter ensued. Other top 10s, where we all know the topic well, tend to be much shorter. But we will always work to improve our format! -Dan
Andrew here. I posted a decent response to the D&D thing, so I’ll say it here too.
I hate sauerkraut. I have seen sauerkraut, I’ve smelled sauerkraut, and I do not feel the need to eat sauerkraut to know that I wouldn’t like it.
The same is with D&D. I’ve seen it. I’m well versed in the gaming community enough to know the premise. I can smell D&D and I can say that it is, in fact…
Overhyped and overrated.
Thank you all for the replies, it is much appreciated to know that you not only took the time to read through my post and consider my thoughts but also to take the time to respond in kind. Thank you and I look forward to more shows
@@mattalling4299 likewise. If you take the time to watch and comment it’s the least we can do. Thanks again. ~Tim
Foundations of Rome is $400 tho...
Ok. So I stumbled on this video and was interested to hear about the list. I feel there's two sides to this coin. One side you could say, you are being too nit picky. I thought this was overrated, not over-hated? But the other side is saying be real, tell the viewers what I should play and what to avoid. Fine, I'm not denying your feelings. So, we both know, this is all opinionated. Yes, you mentioned some games I have no interest in. Great. But for other games, I'm like, what? Really? I won't beat a dead horse on Candy land. But I will the topic is overrated. I don't hear reviews talking about Candy land in the last 4 years. Nuff said. So, over all, this was great video. Why are reviewers afraid to talk about topics like this? Thanks again.
I appreciate the feedback. We all came up with the top 10s separately, and didn’t share so we could have honest reactions on the show. While we probably individually each had some Gonzo picks, I do think the variety makes for more interesting content. Also we made a point to really try and explain why we thought the game was over hyped/over rated, and not just trash it for lame reasons. Honestly not only was the video fun to make, but I’ve really enjoyed all the conversation that it’s generated. I’m passionate about board games because I enjoy the communal experience, and I love getting to talk to other people about games they love. Or why they dislike them. Thanks again for the comment. Hope you check back in with us soon~Tim
Look, it had to be said.
Candyland is overrated.
No board game is safe from being called out in a Top 10. This game needs to be taken off the shelf and these companies need to innovate new ways to teach children through games.
1. Gloomhaven. To think that the most revered game on BGG is the RPG that has a story like it was written by my 6yo son is beyond belief. While it is mechanically sound it washes out pretty quickly and is way too repetitive. There are like 200 games better than GH (and I spent 70hrs on it)
Thank you! I couldn't agree more! I don't get it. I just don't get it. How can people want to spend 200+ hours doing the same thing over and over and over again. Move and hit. Hit and move. Come on. The choices are not interesting! There's clearly an obvious better move 9 out of 10 times. And the story is terrible. The set up is awful and knowing your going to lose a scenario 15 minutes in but having to keep playing it for "experience." So you sludge through it anyway and then have to come back and do it again. Be better. Just be better. You do not deserve to be in the top 100 - much less the top 5 twice!
My first comment, before watching…Codenames Pictures (and probably other > 2 player Codenames)…ugh. I might like Duet, but pictures fell super flat.
I like Codenames Duet a lot. Not saying that you will. But worth a try if you find it at a cafe.
Foster the Meeple would have some thoughts on the Villainous debate 😀
Viticulture is unique because of the theme and it's accessible.
Ticket to Ride won Spiel des Jahres.
Ticket to Ride was great when it came out. But there are more interesting gateway options now. ~Tim
Foster the meeple is wrong. Villainous is objectively bad unless you are looking at a solitary exercise to burn time. They are blinded by nostalgia.
@@grog3514 Foster The Meeple would be bickering about Villainous between both of them! :-)
Andrew, you complain about Viticulture being lucky because of the card draw, and then recommend Troyes as an alternative, and yet Troyes is driven by rolling dice! Your argument doesn't make sense :)
As a fan of Viticulture, I’m fine with you taking Andrew down a peg~Tim
Card draw wasn’t my biggest gripe. Converting wine into orders is just one or two steps too far for my kind in terms of board game goal setting.
Good point though!
My most overhyped is Everdell. The theme and at design are undeniable but I have never had fun with it despite some very earnest attempts to appreciate it. Way too much luck. You have to just hope you draw the right cards to pair with your synergies, the resource economy is weak, and the worker placement is weird when you and the other players can end the game at different times.
That's always going to be the case with tableau building games. There's always going to be luck involved with card draw. Terraforming Mars or Ark Nova are the same way. That's not a bad thing, to me at least, it's just inherent in the genre. The resource economy is designed around you getting resources by playing cards and by playing free cards by having the linked buildings. So you play cards to get resources to play other cards. That's another inherent part of tableau building games. I think the weirdness is it also being a worker placement game, but I think it's an interesting twist to have everyone end their season at different times and then keep going. So that way you're hoping that someone ends their season so that you can get on their spot.
@@jackskellingtonsora Everdell is worse in that regard than others you mentioned because if you build something you are looking for the specific card that you can now build for free and it might never show up or be in someone else’s hand.
Still love the game but I see why that mechanic is a problem thing for people
Oh no you didn't! Carcassonne has much more interesting decisions than some may think. The farmers require forward planning and spatial perception. Invading into enemy structures is fun and defending your own is tense. Spend your meeples efficiently. Maximize the number of tiles you can utilize. It's so great. And it doesn't need *any* expansions! I don't even like the 3-tile variant. Having 1 tile forces the player to adapt and improvise. Roads are good for getting farms or ruining enemy structures for example!
I like Carcasonne, but I got some guys in this panel with me that don’t respect the classics. Unless it’s Dominion. I’m kinda done with Dominion ~Tim
I like Carcasonne, but I got some guys in this panel with me that don’t respect the classics. Unless it’s Dominion. I’m kinda done with Dominion ~Tim
RPGs are not about acting really. Acting is totally optional. It's OK to "just" describe what your character does and says. RPGs provide an extreme level of freedom. The dice/randomization lead the narrative dynamically to surprising places. The players can surprise the game master with their ingenuity. It's fun in a different way from a board game.
The great thing about RPG’s is they can really be what you want them to be. Tailored to your group. I’ve had hack and slash groups, I’ve had games with amazing narratives, and both were great. I’m gonna put something together for the guys and we will do a one shot at some point in time. ~Tim
As I was speaking from my own perspective I would have described what RPGs are to me. Just like you're describing them from your own perspective. To me it's about acting. Living out a character in a book.
You are so wrong about euchre. Statistically, there are about 28% of hands that are impossible to win if the other team doesn't make obvious mistakes but winning takes a good number of hands. I play every day against experienced players and I have a 63% win percentage. There is absolutely strategy and practice will make you better. The tournament scene in Michigan and Indiana are alive and well and the same teams consistently place in the top 10.
I love the strategy in Euchre, I prefer spades, but the timing of the card play I find incredibly enjoyable. Andrew is flat out wrong with his pick~Tim
All you guys are doing is proving that it's is overrated/overhyped by talking about how amazing it is. He fooled you! He fooled you allll! Lol -Dan
@@BoardGameRundown The only problem is that no one actually talks about euchre. Outside of college dorms and card clubs, I don't think I've heard anyone ever mention euchre other than this video. lol
@@grog3514 Most hobbyists will play a form
of euchre, via Diamonds, Cat in the Box, etc.
@@BoardGameRundown I've never heard of either of the other games. lol
I think it's going to be tough to claim euchre has any kind of hype compared to games in an industry driven by hype just because it's been around for a while. Chinese checkers and Scrabble fall into the category as well. Are those over hyped because they are even more well known?
Your hate for Ticket to Ride is blasphemy. You must turn in your board gamer card. /sarcasm
In all seriousness, ticket to ride may be one of the best games in my opinion, even if it's basically rummy the board game. But the card randomness is a valid criticisms.
I wonder if you might like the UK/Philadelphia expansion for Ticket to ride. The UK map has technologies you can "purchase" with caboose cards. It makes it much more of a gamers game. And the Philly board has a "stock" system (not really a traditional stock system)
Also you might like Ticket to Ride Marklïn with the passenger mechanic (though that's difficult to find).
Small World... Decisions never feel very interesting or varied (apart from race selection). I never feel invested in my race, because of decline (and you spread out so quickly).
Small World is just too small.
Very valid point~Tim
TICKET TO RIDE ALL EDITIONS. Complete and utter boredom. every game ever released after is better
I can’t believe people like Ankh. It’s so horrible. Worst experience I’ve ever had with a game.
Man, I'm sorry to hear that. We all have that here and there though. Dominant Species always falls flat for me. New hotness Cat in the Box always just makes me angry lol
I'll consider myself lucky that all my games of Ankh have been a great time I guess :) -Dan
I’d love to hear why your experience was so
bad, I love the game, but I get it. ~Tim
This popped up on my videos to watch and then you attack Euchre right off the bat. You are lucky I stayed to the end. You are luckier I might listen to another.
I’m glad you found us, and we are definitely lucky anyone watches at all. Thanks for sticking around, and Andrew is a monster, so of course he attacks Euchre. 😎😎😎~Tim
@@BoardGameRundown Well I need to see how that DnD one shot goes. Maybe you can quest to prove that Euchre is a good game.
@@andrewduitsman3918 I love this idea.