@@MackerelSharkeven after mortality, naysayers. Conjuring attention only feeds their dismay. Karma, will never enchant them to success. God bless, Arrogate, Amen.
RIP Arrogate, gone much too soon. I was fortunate enough to have been in attendance at Saratoga for this legendary performance. The crowd was stunned silent by the way the race unfolded; I don't think anyone in NY really knew much about Arrogate then, having been a west coast horse that had never even competed in a Stakes race before this, nevermind graded company...and he blew away the field in record time. Absolutely stunning.
I did I singled Arrogate I was all over Arrogate Big Baffert fan I couldn’t believe he was 11-1 Baffert is the Greatest pace of the race is the key to any race Speed rules Bullet Bob
Arrogate foi o único cavalo que me fez lembrar do lendário Secretariat em Kentucky Derby. iniciando em último lugar para chegar em primeiro. O tempo foi de 1:59:40!! Record.. Arrogate 1: 59,36 !! th-cam.com/video/SB5eTuV5Hq0/w-d-xo.html
@@TR-vr5pz I’ve seen the replay of the race many times and yes Secretariat’s Belmont win is special but I wasn’t alive back then. I did watch this race live and without a doubt nothing before 2004 or after this race has come close to this.
I was as impressed as anyone with California Chrome's performance in the Pacific Classic, and by some of Frosted's performances this season, but this colt has got a lethal turn of foot and looks scary good. He set fractions in the Travers that had half the field looking like they needed oxygen by the time the field went past the 3/4 pole, and after setting hair raising fractions, he opened up on the Travers field at his own leisure like it was nothing. Mike Smith was simply luggage for Arrogate in the Travers. Imagine the problems Arrogate could potentially cause the older horses in the Classic if he ran back to anything near this good again to go along with the weight for age break he'll get at Santa Anita. Just sayin.......it's something to consider!
And being Arcangelo’s daddy, I had a hefty pay day at Belmont. Rest in peace Arrogate you are a legend on the track and possibly also already as a Sire.
Top 3 races in my 28 year lifetime Arrogate Travers 1. Calidoscopio Brooklyn 2. Rich Strike kentucky derby 3 This was a powerhouse performance never saw one like it. Other 2 races were miracle crazy wild wins lol.
rip handsome arrogate. you left this earth way too soon. i am so sorry . i know you were watching from horse heaven as your amazing son arcangelo won the same race a couple of weeks ago here in 2023.
I'm so conflicted about Arrogate. During his winning streak of 4 G1s, I came to think he was the only dirt horse I had seen -- along with Spectacular Bid -- who "might" be as good as Secretariat. And Arrogate remains among my top 10 ten favorite racehorses -- the ones I've rooted for the hardest -- which is a different thing than ranking him being amont the greatest. But then he finished up a short career with 3 straight losses, 2 of them embarrassing performances. Psychological burnout? Did he just despise Del Mar? Even before the questions came up about Baffert, I was ambivalent about Arrogate making the Hall of Fame based on performance in four races. And even before the questions came up about Baffert, I was opposed to Justify, with a 6-race "career," no wins against older horses, and (so far as I can remember) no wins against horses as good as Chrome or Gun Runner, going into the Hall of Fame. The best horse I can remember Justify beating was Shaman Ghost. I've long thought too much emphasis is put on the Triple Crown. As things stand now, I don't think either Arrogate or Justify deserves the Hall of Fame. Prediction: Arrogate won't make it. Justify will. I will be disgusted the day Justify does. But if Arrogate does make it, I'll be ambivalently gratified.
@marysueeasteregg Arrogate was never the same after Dubai. Apparently he lost 90 lbs after Dubai and his grooms said he wasn't the same horse after. Bob Baffert said himself (love him or hate him he has alot of experience around racehorses) said that after Dubai he didn't want to run anymore. But Baffert himself said that Arrogate was the most talented horse he ever trained, but that he simply lost interest in racing after Dubai. I heard someone else say he hit his head on the gate in Dubai and was a nervous wreck after. I don't know if that is true or not, but the fact remains Arrogate was not the same horse after Dubai for some reason. However, his level of talent for his 4 famous races is almost unprecedented.
maybe so... but in the entire history of the Travers... nobody has ever run it faster...... when every horse starts out.. you could say they also came out of nowhere. Arrogate has proven himself.
Got going with a long-timer handicapper at Saratoga this summer, around August 4th. He said, "Especially with Baffert. That 's.o.b.. [he said it, I didn't!], if he's got two horses in the same race, dang [euphemism] if the longer-odds of the two doesn't always win!" I took his advice in this race. Whomever you are, my friend, thank you for the rarest gift bestowed at racetracks: advice that pans out.
Baffert had this one primed and ready for sure....the man is an excellent horseman and Arrogate crushed at 11-1 overlooked with a new track record !!!!!
Feel bad for Arrogate...His Trainer had him DOPED UP out of his Mind...This why so many Top Horses trained by Baffert hit a Sudden BRICK WALL out of nowhere and can not perform the same way anymore...At least racing FINALLY is trying to do something about this DISGUSTING Trainer
Well stated, its a shame what happened to this horse. The dope plus the eacort provided by the jockey on Baffert's other entry American Freedom made Arrogate win look far better then it actually was
Wow! Didn't see that coming! In terms of the way he destroyed the field and setting the track record! Will be a major threat in the Breeders Cup Classic!
+paul patane Lol. I believe u are right about that with Songbird! Or maybe Arrogate? Btw, let me know when these donkeys get to the 16th pole! Wow. Alot of no show performances today in this race
So Frosted and Arrogate on the lead in the Breeders Cup? Also, curious to know why Mike Smith rode Arrogate all the way through the finish line and beyond. Was he teaching Arrogate how to finish a race for the future?
Yeah, that was a little odd. I also wondered why Mike Smith pushed Arrogate so hard when he was ten lengths in front and the wire was approaching. I don't know if he knew the track record was within reach or if he teaching him to finish a race like you said, but it was a bit quizzical.
To answer you. Smith said that he never ran through the wire in his previous races, and was geared down. This time they wanted him to run through the wire.
Breaking News! Exaggerated just reached the 1/4 pole. Lol (yes I am being sarcastic. Now 2-10 on a fast track.) and I believe CREATOR is mounting a bid even though the race is over.
Breaking News! Exaggerated just reached the 1/4 pole. Lol (yes I am being sarcastic. Now 2-10 on a fast track.) and I believe CREATOR is mounting a bid even though the race is over.
Im glad I wasnt losing my mind. GOV Malibu went off at 7-1. The morning line of 12-1 made no sense. horse ran a traffic filled Belmont and 2nd place finish in Dandy and was 12-1. uhhh. He ran okay today,made a move on turn. i think Clement will put him on the turf.
@@waremblem3405 Time proved paul patane right ultimately. BCC and Pegasus World Cup winner, Horse of the Year, almost 16 million dollars in earnings. He'll make the Hall of Fame. And he's got off to a terrific start as a sire, though that's a separate issue from his quality as a racehorse.
@@mikewarren1401 Juiced up horse that the public were conned into supporting. Forego was the real horse of 1973. Raced into his 7th year and broke records and carried all kinds of damning weight.
Arrogate horse number one in the world what the hell do look at the distance between him and the second place! It is in a world of illusion in another world
didn't frosted broke the record at Saratoga and a couple other broke records that day too, I'm not surprise if it's the track, frosted came back and lost, against a grade 3 runner up, just another horse that won't hit the board on BCC DAY
I think people are getting a little ahead of themselves. Yeah, this was a historic performance, no doubt about it. But it was just one race. We still need to see if Arrogate is a consistent racehorse against top competition or if he throws in the occasional head-scratching clunker as many do. We also need to see if he can run away on any track during any weather condition. Can he look a horse in the eye every step down the stretch and have the heart and will to stay in front to the bitter end? And there's the issue of soundness. We all know Unbridled's Song wasn't the soundest of colts. Arrogate has to be kept injury-free. He's being asked to grow up awfully quickly in the span of just a few months. This performance proves he can run fast and far, but will he do it continuously? We don't know that yet. One thing I really don't want to see is Arrogate winning the BCC, running in the Clark or something to try to win HOY and then be sold for a zillion dollars and retired before we ever really got to know him. That would leave a bad taste in everyone's mouths.
Speaking of the great Secretariat, the previous owner of the fastest Travers ever was his son General Assembly, who set the record at 2 minutes flat in 1979.
Still can't believe that Gun Runner could not get 2nd ! Cost me a bunch of money for the exacta. Gun Runner that year gave me fits ! I had flashbacks to another frustrating horse who never really got the money when it counted. Gate Dancer 😁
I do not think California Chrome would beat Arrogate with this performance on Breeder's cup.They should not run 2 champions in the same race. We know one will win.
uh what? That makes no sense at all.... how does a champion become a champion if they don't race against the best there is? You want to make a horse Horse of the Year because he/she consistently beats allowance horses????Good grief...
Come oooon. You know that almost every record time came as a horse was 3 years old. It is not right an old, tired 50 years old man race against a 23 years old. That is it.
Bob's three year old boys, in particular, are the best around for my money. From Silver Charm to Arrogate with a couple of all-time greats in between like Pharoah and Point Given. Dortmund had a heck of a three year old season, losing only to Pharoah. Another staple of Bob's stable is that his boys are typically big and muscular. Todd Pletcher usually goes home with the Eclipse Award but there's no one better than Bob.
@@playitsafe20 Arrogate won 4 big races, 3 of them against open company Gun Runner won 5 big races, all of them against open company So Gun Runner actually won more big races in his career.
@@DanielSong39 Nothing against Gun Runner, but his races fall far short of the historical impact of Arrogate's world-shattering performances. Arrogate was a shell of himself when Gun Runner defeated him. It is indeed unfortunate Arrogate was unable to sustain longer his all time great performance level. Gun Runner simply never performed at an all time great level. Gun Runner was a very good performer but could never compete at the level Arrogate achieved multiple times. Simple fact.
@@playitsafe20 Arrogate had higher peak value but Gun Runner did win more big races. These animals are fragile creatures and longevity is also part of the sport.
@@DanielSong39 Except Arrogate's wins put him in a class with Dr. Fager, Secretariat, and Seattle Slew. Gun Runner's serial wins are nothing of the kind.
RIP amazing four races, some of the most impressive runs you’ll ever see.
Ran like Secretariat for 4 races, legend!
Yes, but the horse was highly likely on PED's.
tbl4r1 that owner not allowed on drugs
@@tbl4r126 i agree. seems likely he was juiced
Drugs are a wonderful thing
RIP to this great one. This is up there with his Dubai win, Zenyatta's Classic win, etc...as greatest performances of my short lifetime.
Greatest performance enhancing drugs...
RIP my man. Track record at the classic distance at one of the most storied tracks. One of racing’s greatest achievements. A legend.
@@kitsunedao3895 you must have bet against him.
@@MackerelSharkeven after mortality, naysayers. Conjuring attention only feeds their dismay. Karma, will never enchant them to success. God bless, Arrogate, Amen.
RIP Arrogate, gone too soon, thank you for ALL the GREAT memories!
RIP Arrogate, gone much too soon. I was fortunate enough to have been in attendance at Saratoga for this legendary performance. The crowd was stunned silent by the way the race unfolded; I don't think anyone in NY really knew much about Arrogate then, having been a west coast horse that had never even competed in a Stakes race before this, nevermind graded company...and he blew away the field in record time. Absolutely stunning.
I did I singled Arrogate I was all over Arrogate Big Baffert fan I couldn’t believe he was 11-1 Baffert is the Greatest pace of the race is the key to any race Speed rules Bullet Bob
One of the 5 most impressive performances ever:
1. Secretariat 1973 Belmont Stakes 2:24
2. Dr. Fager 1968 Washington Park 1:32 1/5
3. Seattle Slew 1978 Marlboro 1:45 4/5
4. Prove Out 1973 Woodward 2:25 4/5
5. Arrogate 2016 Travers 1:59 2/5
Arrogate foi o único cavalo que me fez lembrar do lendário Secretariat em Kentucky Derby. iniciando em último lugar para chegar em primeiro. O tempo foi de 1:59:40!! Record.. Arrogate 1: 59,36 !! th-cam.com/video/SB5eTuV5Hq0/w-d-xo.html
JO Tobin 1977 Swaps
General Assembly 1979 Travers
They probably belong somewhere on the list too
@@DanielSong39
Secretariat's son: General Assembly, 1979 Travers exactly 2.0 minutes
This is hands down the best performance I have ever seen in my life.
Shades of General Assembly in 1979
You missed Secretariat then
@@TR-vr5pz I’ve seen the replay of the race many times and yes Secretariat’s Belmont win is special but I wasn’t alive back then. I did watch this race live and without a doubt nothing before 2004 or after this race has come close to this.
@@ezequielcrespofigueroa2047 not even close and the horse was drugged--its a no contest
@@TR-vr5pz how do you know?
I was as impressed as anyone with California Chrome's performance in the Pacific Classic, and by some of Frosted's performances this season, but this colt has got a lethal turn of foot and looks scary good. He set fractions in the Travers that had half the field looking like they needed oxygen by the time the field went past the 3/4 pole, and after setting hair raising fractions, he opened up on the Travers field at his own leisure like it was nothing. Mike Smith was simply luggage for Arrogate in the Travers. Imagine the problems Arrogate could potentially cause the older horses in the Classic if he ran back to anything near this good again to go along with the weight for age break he'll get at Santa Anita. Just sayin.......it's something to consider!
The spectators there should have been way more enthusiastic than that. They just saw HISTORY!!!!
I think the spectators were stunned seeing a Mike Smith/Bob Baffert go off at 11-1 win emphatically like a 1-1 favorite
JerGer918 Maybe 🤷🏻♂️
Still one of the most impressive runs I’ve ever watched
He was click’n off 12’s like it was nothing
RIP Arrogate, gone way too soon.
congratulations from Turkey...it seems great horse...too powerfull...hope to watch him in Turkey one day...
One of the greatest performances of a horse I have ever seen. 3rd in the race was the American Horse of The Year 2017. Rest In Peace Arrogate.
And being Arcangelo’s daddy, I had a hefty pay day at Belmont. Rest in peace Arrogate you are a legend on the track and possibly also already as a Sire.
Now he has Seize the Grey on his sire list.
Top 3 races in my 28 year lifetime
Arrogate Travers 1.
Calidoscopio Brooklyn 2.
Rich Strike kentucky derby 3
This was a powerhouse performance never saw one like it. Other 2 races were miracle crazy wild wins lol.
Although his Travers win was incredible, his Dubai World Cup win tops it. He just shouldn't of won that race yet he did.
My goodness what a performance! Arrogate just blasted away the competition, an awesome stretch drive.
his son runs in the same race tomorrow
This race gives me the chills holy cow man Arrogate my favorite horse ever
One of the all time great performances. Up with any of the best in US history. Maybe Arrogate would have beat ANY horse who ever came before him.
Respect. Arrogate will not be forgotten.
The fastest travers ever! Great call larry
rip handsome arrogate. you left this earth way too soon. i am so sorry . i know you were watching from horse heaven as your amazing son arcangelo won the same race a couple of weeks ago here in 2023.
truly one of the greatest horses, ever.
I'm so conflicted about Arrogate. During his winning streak of 4 G1s, I came to think he was the only dirt horse I had seen -- along with Spectacular Bid -- who "might" be as good as Secretariat. And Arrogate remains among my top 10 ten favorite racehorses -- the ones I've rooted for the hardest -- which is a different thing than ranking him being amont the greatest.
But then he finished up a short career with 3 straight losses, 2 of them embarrassing performances. Psychological burnout? Did he just despise Del Mar? Even before the questions came up about Baffert, I was ambivalent about Arrogate making the Hall of Fame based on performance in four races. And even before the questions came up about Baffert, I was opposed to Justify, with a 6-race "career," no wins against older horses, and (so far as I can remember) no wins against horses as good as Chrome or Gun Runner, going into the Hall of Fame. The best horse I can remember Justify beating was Shaman Ghost. I've long thought too much emphasis is put on the Triple Crown.
As things stand now, I don't think either Arrogate or Justify deserves the Hall of Fame.
Prediction: Arrogate won't make it. Justify will. I will be disgusted the day Justify does. But if Arrogate does make it, I'll be ambivalently gratified.
@marysueeasteregg Arrogate was never the same after Dubai. Apparently he lost 90 lbs after Dubai and his grooms said he wasn't the same horse after. Bob Baffert said himself (love him or hate him he has alot of experience around racehorses) said that after Dubai he didn't want to run anymore. But Baffert himself said that Arrogate was the most talented horse he ever trained, but that he simply lost interest in racing after Dubai. I heard someone else say he hit his head on the gate in Dubai and was a nervous wreck after. I don't know if that is true or not, but the fact remains Arrogate was not the same horse after Dubai for some reason. However, his level of talent for his 4 famous races is almost unprecedented.
Well, at least Secretariat's son General Assembly held that record for 39 years before it came down. That's a good long time in horse racing.
Rest in peace, champ.
This horse ran four straight race that were all diffent but completely unreal ,he ran like Big Red for 4 races
A miracle horse , broke the track record of over a hundred years...wow...a super horse ...Hats off to Prince of Dubai..
Holy moly ! 😳...Arrogate just made history ! Wow, what an amazing champion ... 💕
How cool that Gift Box, who finished fourth, just wowed them in the G2 San Antonio at SA.
It's Saratoga, you should never be surprised when someone wins out of nowhere 😂😂😂
It was how he won & breaking the track record that u have to say WOW! That was total domination!
Good point. Thanks!
maybe so... but in the entire history of the Travers... nobody has ever run it faster...... when every horse starts out.. you could say they also came out of nowhere. Arrogate has proven himself.
It means the horse proved worthy! it means we all agree he proved amazing.
They don't call it the Graveyard of Champions for nothing
A truly sublime performance indeed 👏.
RIP arrowgate gone but never forgotten
This is the most impossible race to explain in the history of thoroughbred racing.
Arrogate was a freak of his kind.
Got going with a long-timer handicapper at Saratoga this summer, around August 4th. He said, "Especially with Baffert. That 's.o.b.. [he said it, I didn't!], if he's got two horses in the same race, dang [euphemism] if the longer-odds of the two doesn't always win!" I took his advice in this race. Whomever you are, my friend, thank you for the rarest gift bestowed at racetracks: advice that pans out.
it's heartbreaking that he died so early ugh
Baffert had this one primed and ready for sure....the man is an excellent horseman and Arrogate crushed at 11-1 overlooked with a new track record !!!!!
And Mr big money himself Mike Smith!
What a breathtaking legacy he left with the four races that began here.
Arrogate was simply awsome
Gone too soon We will all miss you Champ.
RIP, Arrogate, only seven years old...
Well well it never rain like how it pours after a sub 2 MIN profermance in the Travers come Breeders cup day rain or sunshine I am with Arrogate
How good is this performance compared to General Assembly in 1979?
So sad to hear that he died yesterday.
Super horse. HOF.
Fantastic call by Larry.
Feel bad for Arrogate...His Trainer had him DOPED UP out of his Mind...This why so many Top Horses trained by Baffert hit a Sudden BRICK WALL out of nowhere and can not perform the same way anymore...At least racing FINALLY is trying to do something about this DISGUSTING Trainer
Well stated, its a shame what happened to this horse. The dope plus the eacort provided by the jockey on Baffert's other entry American Freedom made Arrogate win look far better then it actually was
Any questions?
About what?
My man went like secretariat (2013-2020)
Arrogate, California chrome, frosted, should be a great classic!
And it was!
Rest easy big fella. I'll cherish the opportunities I got to see you race.
Wow! Didn't see that coming! In terms of the way he destroyed the field and setting the track record! Will be a major threat in the Breeders Cup Classic!
John,whos the best 3 year tonight in the US? I say Songbird....
+paul patane Lol. I believe u are right about that with Songbird! Or maybe Arrogate? Btw, let me know when these donkeys get to the 16th pole! Wow. Alot of no show performances today in this race
Im taking nothing away from Arrogate,but too me Song Bird has a crazy good resume. Would love to see her head to Classic
+paul patane It would make no sense if Songbird were to run in the distaff. Against Beholder? Songbird vs Chrome & Arrogante would be fantastic!
I'd like to see Songbird take on the boys, she's handily beaten the other fillies.
Goodbye, champion!
BEST RUNNER EVER, AT SARATOGA......TRACK RECORD.........CHAMPION......!!!
Lets see an arrogate filly get covered by flightline and see what happens???
RIP the Great Arrogate!!!
This is truly an EPIC RUN might not see any horse beat this time in a long long time. GA time of 2min stood for almost 40yrs or so!!!!!!
So Frosted and Arrogate on the lead in the Breeders Cup? Also, curious to know why Mike Smith rode Arrogate all the way through the finish line and beyond. Was he teaching Arrogate how to finish a race for the future?
Chrome is A Rocket Out the Gate and will Have the Lead!!
Think Chrome could sustain the speed? Be pretty sweet to see Chrome, Frosted and another horse battling it out on the lead.
Yeah, that was a little odd. I also wondered why Mike Smith pushed Arrogate so hard when he was ten lengths in front and the wire was approaching. I don't know if he knew the track record was within reach or if he teaching him to finish a race like you said, but it was a bit quizzical.
To answer you. Smith said that he never ran through the wire in his previous races, and was geared down. This time they wanted him to run through the wire.
RIP Big A
Mike smith is a great jockey. I miss Zenyatta 💐
Maddi Me Too. and my Name is Maddie! lol
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Want to see Songbird head to BC Classic. Would love to see it
Breaking News! Exaggerated just reached the 1/4 pole. Lol (yes I am being sarcastic. Now 2-10 on a fast track.) and I believe CREATOR is mounting a bid even though the race is over.
Breaking News! Exaggerated just reached the 1/4 pole. Lol (yes I am being sarcastic. Now 2-10 on a fast track.) and I believe CREATOR is mounting a bid even though the race is over.
Ya. i couldn't believe all the hype on Exg and Kent D on a dry surface. Suckers bet at 2-1
Im glad I wasnt losing my mind. GOV Malibu went off at 7-1. The morning line of 12-1 made no sense. horse ran a traffic filled Belmont and 2nd place finish in Dandy and was 12-1. uhhh. He ran okay today,made a move on turn. i think Clement will put him on the turf.
I was surprised to see Connect 12-1 and Gift Box 23-1. That really surprised me,the public didn't like the Curlin Stakes. They were right.
How did they let him go at 11-1 ??????
This horse will give any horse ever a fucking headache ,he s a monster
Gun Runner ran very good. Good Derby,3rd in Travers. Nice colt.
Having backed him in the Derby, I salute your magnanimous spirit but abstain from joining you.
@@waremblem3405 Time proved paul patane right ultimately. BCC and Pegasus World Cup winner, Horse of the Year, almost 16 million dollars in earnings. He'll make the Hall of Fame. And he's got off to a terrific start as a sire, though that's a separate issue from his quality as a racehorse.
Gun Runner was in this race too. He was horse of the year in 2017.
Chrome wants no part of that speed.
I had a talk with Pat Day yrs ago an he told me one thing Times dont lie
That’s right and that’s why secretariat is the greatest of all time!
Mike Warren he’s the best horse in history
@@mikewarren1401 Juiced up horse that the public were conned into supporting. Forego was the real horse of 1973. Raced into his 7th year and broke records and carried all kinds of damning weight.
Since Baffert was the trainer, we cannot assume the horse was running clean.
Love arrogate
Rest easy Champ! 🏇🏾
jesus he just smashed at Pegasus too!
Arrogate horse number one in the world what the hell do look at the distance between him and the second place! It is in a world of illusion in another world
What about Dubai next March given that the Dubai World Cup is one of the few races that Prince Khalid Abdullah's Juddmonte Farms is yet to win
It looks like its happening!
didn't frosted broke the record at Saratoga and a couple other broke records that day too, I'm not surprise if it's the track, frosted came back and lost, against a grade 3 runner up, just another horse that won't hit the board on BCC DAY
Hey, did Arrogate ever hit the board in the Breeder's Cup? lolol.....
Frosted won the Whitney, but didn't set a record in it. He set a record in the Metropolitan Handicap, run at Belmont.
Fukkk no not here in saratoga
R.I.P. Arrogate!!!!
Baffert sure knows how to dope up those horses.
new TR and runs his last quarter in better than 24 seconds
r.i.p champ.....no fences anymore...you can run free...
Only Bob Baffert can win the Travers in record time after just winning an Allowance Optional Claiming race 3 weeks before.
And break a 140 year track record!
is he better than Pharaoh?? good question
Its not a good question, Arrogate is miles better than Pharoah. Times dont lie.
rip great1!!!!! travers track record...
الف مبروك الك يا شيخ خالد
What Arrogate did in Dubai WC more impressive than this...
Once again...CA horses kick some serious East Coast ass...
Did he Bleed
I think people are getting a little ahead of themselves. Yeah, this was a historic performance, no doubt about it. But it was just one race. We still need to see if Arrogate is a consistent racehorse against top competition or if he throws in the occasional head-scratching clunker as many do. We also need to see if he can run away on any track during any weather condition. Can he look a horse in the eye every step down the stretch and have the heart and will to stay in front to the bitter end? And there's the issue of soundness. We all know Unbridled's Song wasn't the soundest of colts. Arrogate has to be kept injury-free. He's being asked to grow up awfully quickly in the span of just a few months. This performance proves he can run fast and far, but will he do it continuously? We don't know that yet.
One thing I really don't want to see is Arrogate winning the BCC, running in the Clark or something to try to win HOY and then be sold for a zillion dollars and retired before we ever really got to know him. That would leave a bad taste in everyone's mouths.
Excellent. There are the one-hit wonders and he well may end up as one of them on that dreaded list.
I think we got our answer in the Breeders' Cup today. :)
We sure did! Comment (above) CANCELLED!
Yeah, folks got totally carried away --extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds and all of that
So, I guess people didn't get ahead of themselves? lol
It was Secretariat like. When we saw him win the Dub i cup we knew we saw the best since dare we saw Secretariat
You did not. If you would like to fool yourself, have at it.
Speaking of the great Secretariat, the previous owner of the fastest Travers ever was his son General Assembly, who set the record at 2 minutes flat in 1979.
Great horse but the rest didn't come to play. Let's see when the big horses step up. Big numbers are always earned when alone but lets just see.
He came. He saw. He conquered.
Have YOU seen it yet? The rest of us did....
Still can't believe that Gun Runner could not get 2nd ! Cost me a bunch of money for the exacta. Gun Runner that year gave me fits ! I had flashbacks to another frustrating horse who never really got the money when it counted. Gate Dancer 😁
Que bello
I do not think California Chrome would beat Arrogate with this performance on Breeder's cup.They should not run 2 champions in the same race. We know one will win.
Huh? Of course Champions should face eachother, that's the whole point of a championship.
uh what? That makes no sense at all.... how does a champion become a champion if they don't race against the best there is? You want to make a horse Horse of the Year because he/she consistently beats allowance horses????Good grief...
Whoa, burn --no low-hanging fruit safe from the clutches of you
Come oooon. You know that almost every record time came as a horse was 3 years old. It is not right an old, tired 50 years old man race against a 23 years old. That is it.
There is only 2 years difference. I would bet a 23-year-old Bolt against a 21-year-old of your choice.
Greatest horse to ever live
typical Baffert horse. Speed times speed..
If it works...
Bob's three year old boys, in particular, are the best around for my money. From Silver Charm to Arrogate with a couple of all-time greats in between like Pharoah and Point Given. Dortmund had a heck of a three year old season, losing only to Pharoah. Another staple of Bob's stable is that his boys are typically big and muscular. Todd Pletcher usually goes home with the Eclipse Award but there's no one better than Bob.
11/1 ooopps for arrogate
i wonder if Arrogate has special cream on his legs
WOW.
chrome going down again tomorrow!!!!
Arrogate was a great horse then all of a sudden he wasn’t. Hell of horse and would’ve been a great sire. IDK
Horse was 100% juiced!!
The best in the world
Gun Runner would eventually turn the tables.
Not until Arrogate proved he was an all time great. By then what gun runner did was irrelevant
@@playitsafe20 Arrogate won 4 big races, 3 of them against open company
Gun Runner won 5 big races, all of them against open company
So Gun Runner actually won more big races in his career.
@@DanielSong39 Nothing against Gun Runner, but his races fall far short of the historical impact of Arrogate's world-shattering performances. Arrogate was a shell of himself when Gun Runner defeated him. It is indeed unfortunate Arrogate was unable to sustain longer his all time great performance level. Gun Runner simply never performed at an all time great level. Gun Runner was a very good performer but could never compete at the level Arrogate achieved multiple times. Simple fact.
@@playitsafe20 Arrogate had higher peak value but Gun Runner did win more big races. These animals are fragile creatures and longevity is also part of the sport.
@@DanielSong39 Except Arrogate's wins put him in a class with Dr. Fager, Secretariat, and Seattle Slew. Gun Runner's serial wins are nothing of the kind.
A monster on the oval.