The surveillance videos of Fotis Dulos disposing of Jennifer's bloody belongings in numerous places while Troconis was in the vehicle with him are enough to convince me that she knew what had transpired. My heart breaks for Jennifer and her children. I tend to believe that Troconis knows where Jennifer's remains could be and she's despicable. It's too bad that Jennifer ever met Fotis who was a nobody when she came from a respectable family with money. As pretty as she was, I believe he just saw the green and was an opportunist from day one. Aside from the divorce proceedings, Jennifer's mother was suing him for almost 2 million dollars that her deceased husband loaned him but Fotis claimed it was a gift. He was just no good and it makes me so mad that they let him bail out and commit suicide rather than face the consequences he deserved.
Well said! And I didn't know this until recently, but Fotis divorced his first wife Hilary in order to marry Jennifer. Divorced in July 2004 and married Jennifer in August. Makes me think he was in a hurry to get access to her family money.
😮@@TiaCatR also at the time, his gf and his lawyer friend got arrested. The lawyer was also getting divorced. The lawyers wife said she received a strange call from Fotis who wanted to meet with her alone to help her with settlement with the lawyer She said he really tried but she refused. They found an empty graveside which had been dug in property connected to the lawyer. The Implication was that they were going 2 help each other with the murdering of their wives
Yes, & WHY all the different places to drop off these bags ?, she knew, otherwise you'd Question what was going on! She's a hard looking individual, NOTHING like the beautiful missing Mother.
Money does not meant happiness... plus attractiveness - all does - quite difficult to build a healthy balance...there is always a one who does not allow another one to let us free and leave....
Think of the position she was in. Definitely scary. At some point she gets in the car with Dulos does anyone know when exactly? Remember she doesn't have to testify, but clearly if he's murdered Jennifer he's going to be acting weird!
I 2nd that and in addition….. My 🙏🏽 prayers go out to her family, especially those 3 boys and 2 girls, such beautiful children! How selfish can a father be to take a dedicated mother from her children! Then kills himself, leaving them parentless! Although, after killing their mother, I’d argue, what sort of parent would you be anyway?!? 🤷🏽♀️ 😤
I was at the Stamford Courthouse. I went to all the Hearings. I was on the Elevator with Fotis and Norm Pattis! It was very Creepy to say the least! To know I was next to a Murderer!
Michelle had to have known it was Jennifer’s stuff. She understood as much when she tossed it out, imo, and she really has no valid excuse for being clueless. It must be difficult for her to be the one left holding any part of the “bag”… you reap what you sow. 🤷🏼♀️
Knowing she was throwing out Jennifer's stuff doesn't make her an accomplice to murder. Could be the response of someone believing their new lover/ husband to be and just wanting get rid of all reminders in the hopes of creating a new life together. Though if l was in that situation I would definitely be concerned about why he/we just don't return it all in a respectful and normally proper way. If he can just throw into garbage what rightfully belongs to the mother of his 5 children, and hopefully in the future will be part of their lives, l would be deeply concerned. Concerned enough to leave him. I will never forget my father telling me to carefully observe the way any boyfriend of mine treats servers, animals and children. He deliberately put public servers and animals first, because the treatment of them appears less important. Then obviously children because it's easier to pretend, but most important of all, take serious note of how he talks about his ex, or exes, girlfriend/s or wife/ wives. Not every person is overtly respectful to servers, that can be a show. Nor is everyone a natural animal lover , nor automatically comfortable and easy going with children. BUT your ex is someone you felt for. Are they still holding a candle over them, or are they derogatory or boastful about them. If they are either of these 3 walk away fast and don't look back. Once l was so smitten I ignored his advice about a man who was derogatory about his ex girlfriend, yet weirdly, "respectful '". I would feel either wonderful in comparison to her, or horribly inadequate. She had talents and ways of doing things better than me and visa versa. I thank God he decided he was in love with someone else, though at the time l felt gutted. Subsequently I met his new love of his life at a seminar, still raw with being rejected, only to find out that she was going through the same emotional games with him. It was suddenly so obvious. The way he would glorify his ex, and then point out why he broke off the relationship had nothing to do with him. It was always about her faults and his need to be free of that kind of woman. When she met me and we started talking l could immediately sense that she was getting more and more perplexed, to the point where she asked if he had really ended our relationship, because everything he loved in a woman l appeared to be , and at the same time she had been told how dreadful I was. She was both intimidated by me, and at the same time superior. Exactly how l had felt about both his exes. We talked some more and then she suddenly said, " He's cold inside and controlling." At that moment I saw he was walking towards us with his deep look and warm smile. I literally went cold, then started to feel the same anxiety and unlovedness l had actually always felt with him. She said to him that we were going to get fresh martinis and would rejoin him at the table. My natural rebellious nature kicked in. As soon as we were a few steps away she said don't look back, l have never done this in my life, even when I have wanted to in other situations. I feel alive. I said Thelma And Louise, and we couldn't stop crying with laughter even though the movie was very dark, and we both really like and love many men. We weren't feminists and still aren't. When we returned to the table l was healed. I had seen in flashbacks just why his push-pull, hot- cold behaviour had got to me, and that l had unknowingly had also had the same way of operating in relationships. A "moment" of pure illumination and release. I could finally be natural with him. What joy! The 3 of us continued to talk, he did try to privately engage with, " why was l never this happy with him, it was all he had wanted ", but my mama~child psychologist in me was no longer there. There was nothing to say accept shrug, smile, clink my glass to his and continue the really interesting conversation l was in. I knew then that psychology was not going to be the field l wanted to pursue anymore, nor advertising . That l just wanted to be an English and Speech and Drama teacher, and that was fine. The next week his new girlfriend called me up to say she had decided it was definitely over between them and he was now being both clingy and controlling. She found a new apartment and moved out. We are both in a good relationship, not always easy at all,with a man, mine going on to 23 years . He is Irish and irascible and I adore him when I am not frustrated with him in a healthy way. None of all this intense shyte came close to literally murdering anyone. Figuratively yes. To get to that point is simply beyond me. To get self destructive l still need to be wary of. To Life and all it brings to help us grow better and not worse. Roses and thorns, and above all the pure grace and total faith and love for our true Lord, Jesus Christ. The Holy Trinity lives, and always will. Amen. And so be it.
@@annabambus6572 Excellent description of your journey. Thank you Thelma’s/Louise. 👏🏼 Your illuminating experience when you met one of the girlfriends was very very interesting. I have read it twice and will go back for another careful read. Thank you for your testimony of faith! 🙌🏼🕊️🙏
It’s so obvious that Flotus murdered his wife and he’s not around anymore so I don’t understand why Michele isn’t being offered a deal for her honesty. Why is she not cutting a deal to lighten her sentence because she was absolutely an accessory.
Listened to an interview the other day on TH-cam where they speculated the same. The attorney in the interview stated that many times, the accused is looking for zero jail time, and if that's not part of the plea, they decide instead to take their chances with a jury. Unfortunately for Ms. Troconis, the fact that she was along for the ride when the bloody clothes were being dumped, and that Kent Mahwinny has turned state's evidence , are going to be two hurdles she didn't factor in to her decision. One has to conclude that whatever Mahwinny has to say has to be pretty informative in order for him to be released.
The state needs to be CAREFUL not to make this about proving guilt of Fotis. The jury will not be able to charge her with anything if the state is focused on Him. I really hope they get to Her involvement soon and keep the jury focus on Her. I hope they don’t screw this up 😢
It’s scheduled to be a long trial - into March - with over 100 witnesses. I’m sure they are currently laying the foundation and will get to Michelle at the appropriate time.
State has to lay the groundwork to indeed prove she is dead, and not just missing. There are still over 200 witnesses that will take the stand before this is done. As long as the Defense keeps making vague statements about whether Jennifer is missing, instead of actually dead, it's going to be hard to convict on Conspiracy.
Why would you continue to date someone who’s wife went missing ? Especially after the sketchy disposing of trash bags around Hartford? She was definitely in on it!!
Agreed that at some point she knew he did it. Just not sure of the charge Conspiracy, as I'm not sure she was part of the planning, but I'm definitely sure she was part of the cleanup. More than disgusting that after Fotis killed Jennifer, not hours later, he was badgering the nanny to bring the kids back from NY, as it was his weekend for visitation. Have never doubted for one minute that his plan, at the very least, was to kidnap those children and take them to Greece. An important point made during the trial , and probably not noticed by some, was the fact that he had gone back to court in early May to try and regain physical custody of his children. He lost that appeal, and I have no doubt that's what made him decide to take Jennifer out of the picture completely.
Please, this guy is ridiculous when he keeps saying that Fotis was trying to seduce Michelle to be part of his life at the time of the murder. 1.) Fotis started a romantic relationship with Michelle while he was still with his wife Jennifer and 2.) Michelle was living with Fotis in the former family home at the time of the murder.
At the end of the trial, when the jury goes to deliberation and she can see they will convict her - when she sees there's no way out of this and that she can no longer escape accountability - I wonder if the prosecution will offer her a "light at the end of the tunnel" plea deal... Perhaps they will offer her a prison sentence with the possibility for parole in exchange for an admission of some guilt (participation) and, most importantly, the location of Jennifer's remains. Im sure this is so important to her family.
It's my impression that pleas deals must be made before the trial begins, however, I'm no expert, so who knows? Did learn something interesting over the weekend though. Watched a podcast of a NYC crime investigator who is speculating that Jennifer was dismembered , as he stated that if her body was dumped or buried, the murderer wouldn't typically remove the clothes first. He stated that due to the fact that her clothing and underwear were dumped, leads him to believe that parts of her body have been dumped in various locations as well. He also commented on the partial bloody footprint in the garage. He commented on why the CT State police did not use a chemical which would have provided the complete outline of the shoe, not just the partial. He states that the partial print that was found tells him that it was a Chuck Taylor sneaker, and he actually recreated the print to show the entire outline. Very interesting podcast.
Why do men who make their wives disappear always leave her purse on the counters of their homes. Michael st women don't leave home on their own, do not leave her purse behind!
Thank you for sharing this video and informative information; great journalism. I am very impressed with the Judge, the Courts need more like this Honorable Judge. It will interesting to see what evidence will come up in this case.
Yeah did her sudden struggles with the English language 🙄 mean she didn’t understand, from Fotis, what he planned to do to Jennifer or what he had done that she didn’t know about beforehand? I believe she was complicit at least after the fact. ⚖️
@@dawnb3194 I've seen defendants wheeled into court in a wheelchair and hobble in with a cane, but don't recall ever seeing the "I [suddenly] don't understand English" tactic.
Innocent of adultery or fornication? Those two factors of life usual lead straight to MURDER or THEFT. Sometimes we all get what our hands deserve. Even though one hands may not have touched the actual crime scene.. ⚖️
Guilt by association. Watched one of her initial police interviews, where she parrots the line Fotis told her- that Jennifer had bi-polar disorder. I'm sorry, but that's her explanation for why Jennifer is missing, or why Fotis may have killed her? Single chick with a child ( father unknown), desperately looking for the attention of a man , even if he's married? Sounds like she's the one with the disorder.
It will never make any sense: duffus husband has a gf that is far inferior to wife, conspires with husband to kill and dispose of wife. In this case, Dulos comitted suicide, the ultimate attempt to control this case, and narcissistic.
I thought maybe Dulos either counted on being found in time for him to come close to dying, but not so close that he would die, or he knew his fate, that he would be found guilty because he is, and he didn't want to spend the rest of his life in prison.
@TheDarkDresser His multiple attempts at suicide (and eventual success) are textbook serial killer behavior. Being sent to prison clearly is part of it, as well as having his reputation dragged through the mud, but the most important thing to this psychopath is egotistical control. He MUST exert his control over the situation to prove his dominance. That is what the suicide is---it's his final act of control over everyone else.
That's always the odd component to all of these cases, replacement for wife is almost always inferior. Guess Fotis wanted to be the "smarter "one in the relationship, not something he had with Jennifer.
If she were innocenT ..she would have contacted police abouT the garbage disposal all over town 🚩.. & y " I'm presuming " w all her money.. didn't the wife have a security system and a bodyguard
Exactly. If she, Michelle, was the innocent, unknowing waif, she would have contacted the police immediately. Or would she? Fotis was providing housing for her and her daughter. I keep hearing she ran a company, she was an ESPN reporter, why didn't she have her own home? Pretty ballsy to move into the home of your boyfriend and his wife, the one he's not even divorced from yet. Not pity for this chick at all.
Well she was with him as he disposed of many garbage bags, plus she knew he was a married man. No idea if she knew he killed Jennifer but it seems she didn’t ask killer Fotis too many questions. I don’t believe her that she didn’t know. She knew. She just didn’t think Fotis would get caught. Now he’s dead, the coward and she’s left holding the bag.
Logic would tell you that a home builder of million dollar homes would not be dumping construction trash in residential garbage bins in Hartford. But we have to concede that it's possible that Michelle has no intelligence or logic. My guess is she was just happy to have a man. Bet she never thought Fotis would off himself, and leave her on the hook.
Really appreciate James Bergenn and the way he objectively explains what is also subjective. If l had wanted to go into law, l would pray for a professor exactly like him, or as close as possible. I am now a James Bergenn fan. 😅
Judge is very impressive. Not easily swayed by the drama the Defense tries to conjure up. Also appreciate the fact that he explains why an objection is sustained or overruled.
I haven't heard enough evidence to prove she was nor knew of her deceased boyfriend murdering his x wife Jennifer or knowing what was in those bags, I worked in construction yrs back and it wasn't uncommon that my coworkers while driving in the same vehicle would throw a few garbage bags into several different garbage bins careful to not over flow any one bin, so if I were captured bending out of this vehicle whether I dropped something outside the window on accident or like her trying to wipe a piece of gum off my finger and got caught on a camera/video during one of these occasion then find out later that my coworker kills his partner or x-partner does this make me guilty
Mthis woman is a home wrecker thats numbet 1. She knew they had 4 5 kids and she had an affair. She knoes dam well what ernt on and i hope she goes to jail. To woman out there dont believe what the man tells u hes gonna say yhings u want to here yo get down ur pants period.
Ok I know it's high profile, just trying to get maybe one answer, I give up. When y'all have notifications on going live and I click on it says, can't pull up video. I give up trying to get information at all, I'll stick to local news. Prayers for all innocent involved 🙏🏼
I think she might’ve helped but I don’t think she helped Fotis, knows where the body is or helped dispose of it. I think there is pressure to have an outcome in this case and since Fotis is no longer available, she is being made the responsible party.
Almost impossible to believe that she was living in the same home with Fotis and knew absolutely nothing, especially right after the murder. Also suspect, is her helping him create a timeline for his alibi. Why would he need an alibi? And if he was out working, and she was home, how could she help? Unless of course , he told her enough details, so they could rehearse their stories and get them straight.
I do not think Michelle is guilty of intention to murder, let alone murder. She is " guilty" of falling in love with a terrible type of man . Maybe not fully in love but definitely deeply attracted . I have no idea what her citizenship status in the US is. I know she was a TV reporter for Venezuela. I have no idea what the political situation in Venezuela is, nor why she wanted to leave. Her family come across genuine. She comes across frustrated and therefore angry and stressed with being misunderstood. I do believe her English is genuinely not up to par with drilling detective interviews/ interrogations. I believe she felt so panicked and caught up with what she suspected, or realised her not loving new "man" in her life had done. She is in a dreadful situation where the dead man can't be interrogated, so everything falls on her, in our human desire to get justice for Jennifer and not only that, but 5 innocent children who have no parents now. Please let's not turn this into a damned if you do, damned if you don't witch hunt. We could honestly be looking at a woman who was manipulated and terrified, or someone consciously and deliberately involved. Everything l see and read about her is almost automatically going for her as guilty of knowing what was happening with no deeper contemplation of why. Fear and panic can cause one to just act out; or being blindsided by the man you believe to be what he appears to be can have one so confused that you just switch into autopilot mode, thinking this will all somehow make sense when it's over. But "your" man decides to kill himself. To what extent did she really know that he had had more than one wife and children. Very smart people talk about the fact that she doesn't really cry, because all they can see is her wiping her eyes. I have seen people do exactly that. Their eyes tear up and before they let the tears flow, they immediately wipe their eyes in some unconscious or conscious attempt to be strong, as in hold it together, because in their culture, upbringing they have no right to cry, it's self pity which makes a mockery of those who are truly suffering etc. We are never in a position to damn anyone, especially when the evidence against the person leads to so much speculation. .Yes we want justice for Jennifer, her five children and family. But tread carefully. The real culprit has killed himself. That does not mean we go baying for more blood so to speak. Terrible things have been done in the name of justice. Otherwise we would not need an Innocence Project.
Are you her family? Not every woman is the pathetic little helpless victim of a big bad man. It's about time that female criminals are held to the same standard of accountability as their male co-conspirators and, hopefully, she will also be sentenced to serve a comparable prison sentence to Dulos (had he been convicted alongside her). I've seen and heard enough female convicts paint themselves as "the abused", and being sentenced to pathetic prison terms, just cuz they have a v'JJ. Feminists want "equality", except when it comes to obligations and accountability.
Thank You AnnaB. I agree. I have known construction workers to illegally dump to save money. Not legal, but happens. He could have told her anything. He said he needed her to clean a bathroom at a site. Possibly where he washed up. Many different construction supplies stain like blood, and many construction workers have cuts, scrapes and get blood on things. It's very believable to me, that she was lied to by an insanely angry man. Let's pray for a sober jury.
It is best not to be involved in ';unliving anyone, ever, or in any way'. no matter how much you love someone; run Forest Run....when unliving anyone comes into the picture....run forest run....
Agree to disagree. She knew he was married, and she fooled with him anyway. He brought his WIFE and children on vacation, and she just also happened to be there? No , she's no innocent waif, no language struggling immigrant. Not buying it. Just this past week, she had several verbal exchanges with her attorneys in court. No Earphones, no translator. It's all a sham. She had no problem with Fotis cheating on his wife to be with her, no problem moving into his home in Farmington, even though he wasn't legally divorced, no problem defying the court order to be in the presence of his children , even though Jennifer had explicitly requested that not happen. No, she's not ignorant, she arrogant. And that arrogance it what has brought her here. So, she can fake cry and wring her hands, but bottom line- her desperation to hook up with what she thought was a wealthy man, and be a willing adulteress, led her down a rabbit hole. She's a grownup, she'll have to live with the consequences of her bad decisions.
I bet her instructions to involve herself wasn't in Spanish. another case of they may suspect me of murder but they didn't see me do it, so they can't prove i did it...
That’s the first impression by the responding officers. they are told it’s a missing persons case. As they carefully look around and come back to the garage, they become more suspicious when they see the “blood like substance.” After that, homicide detectives and forensic experts come in for the DNA work etc.
Is Jennifer even dead? Did she have a job? Or just a lot of babies and all the nanny's she wanted. How did she pay for all this? Is it possible she just left?
Please don't float that ridiculous theory. With all the blood evidence found in that home, there's no way she took off of her own volition. Her family is extremely wealthy, and her mother was paying the rent on the New Canaan home. The mother was also paying the mortgage payment on the Farmington home that she and Fotis shared, of course, until she moved out. There is no doubt he had more than one motive to kill her, the primary one being his avenues to cash being shut down, one by one. I suppose that's why he made another attempt to get custody of the children in May 2019, so he could get financial support from Jennifer. Not so odd in hindsight now, that when that request was denied , Jennifer goes missing not 3 weeks later, and her house is a crime scene. All about the $$$, always is . Think Fotis was stupid enough to believe he could get away with the murder, would automatically be awarded custody of the children, and access the cash their mother had in trust for them. But as with most murders, there's always at least one mistake made. Fotis was too much of a narcissist to kill himself, unless of course he knew the walls were closing in. And they were. Never heard a satisfactory explanation from his attorneys as to why Fotis would be in possession of clothing belonging to Jennifer, with her blood on it. He was not allowed to enter her home, how did he get it? There's only one way.
Have thought about this often. He's was a Greek American- spoke with an accent, She's supposedly Venezuelan- speaks Spanish. Last time I checked those two languages aren't even vaguely similar. Sign language maybe? 😏
The initial police interviews show her speaking and comprehending English well enough. That's a little game her attorneys have come up with, however, I'm not buying it. She has been filmed in the courtroom several times this past week, speaking with the attorneys, sans earbuds or translator. I suspect, that is going to become a talking point in this trial down the road. Her attorney is going to claim that she didn't understand what the police were saying in the interviews . But I've watched them, and her responses are pretty prompt and in English. Bunch of B.S.
Incorrect. On May 24th when she was riding around Hartford with Fotis, dumping Jennifer's clothes, and God knows what else, she had an obligation to notify the police. She didn't do that voluntarily, they identified her from the surveillance video in Hartford. Always better to play offense, apparently Michelle doesn't know that either. Are you trying to tell us she lived in a cave? That in the following couple of days when every news station was reporting Jennifer's disappearance, that Michelle was too stupid to connect the dots, that just maybe Fotis was involved somehow? This trial will come alive once Kent Mawhinney testifies. When he tells what he knows about Michelle's involvement, I think she'll have a hard time digging herself out. Absolutely do not believe that she and her BF Fotis never discussed his ex-wife, never discussed how he was bankrupt, and his former MIL was suing him. Granted Michelle probably didn't drive to New Canaan and commit the murder, but she is most definitely guilty of hindering prosecution as she withheld, and is still withholding, pertinent evidence to this case. She can start by telling everyone where Jennifer's remains are.
User, it’s quite possible she knew in advance that he was going to commit the murder and could have left Fotis and notified the police and Jennifer herself.
i ask a question i dont know if they found her anway is in the water for sure..i asume they found her becase they charge them this is the first time i ever knew about her mising but her face look familiar she is in the lake go look for her im not spreading lies i know my stuff beter than others
The surveillance videos of Fotis Dulos disposing of Jennifer's bloody belongings in numerous places while Troconis was in the vehicle with him are enough to convince me that she knew what had transpired. My heart breaks for Jennifer and her children. I tend to believe that Troconis knows where Jennifer's remains could be and she's despicable. It's too bad that Jennifer ever met Fotis who was a nobody when she came from a respectable family with money. As pretty as she was, I believe he just saw the green and was an opportunist from day one. Aside from the divorce proceedings, Jennifer's mother was suing him for almost 2 million dollars that her deceased husband loaned him but Fotis claimed it was a gift. He was just no good and it makes me so mad that they let him bail out and commit suicide rather than face the consequences he deserved.
Well said! And I didn't know this until recently, but Fotis divorced his first wife Hilary in order to marry Jennifer. Divorced in July 2004 and married Jennifer in August. Makes me think he was in a hurry to get access to her family money.
😮@@TiaCatR also at the time, his gf and his lawyer friend got arrested. The lawyer was also getting divorced. The lawyers wife said she received a strange call from Fotis who wanted to meet with her alone to help her with settlement with the lawyer
She said he really tried but she refused. They found an empty graveside which had been dug in property connected to the lawyer. The Implication was that they were going 2 help each other with the murdering of their wives
Yes, & WHY all the different places to drop off these bags ?, she knew, otherwise you'd Question what was going on! She's a hard looking individual, NOTHING like the beautiful missing Mother.
@@TiaCatR he stepped on people to get what he could, just a horrible little person.
Money does not meant happiness... plus attractiveness - all does - quite difficult to build a healthy balance...there is always a one who does not allow another one to let us free and leave....
Troconis is a guilty monster.
She knows more than she says we want justice for Jenifer
Think of the position she was in. Definitely scary. At some point she gets in the car with Dulos does anyone know when exactly? Remember she doesn't have to testify, but clearly if he's murdered Jennifer he's going to be acting weird!
Justice for Jennifer Dulos😢
I 2nd that and in addition…..
My 🙏🏽 prayers go out to her family, especially those 3 boys and 2 girls, such beautiful children!
How selfish can a father be to take a dedicated mother from her children! Then kills himself, leaving them parentless!
Although, after killing their mother, I’d argue, what sort of parent would you be anyway?!? 🤷🏽♀️ 😤
@@Ms2unique4uIt's all been for Nothing, the destruction by a vile little narcissist.
Bless the sweetie precious children ❤ may the lord pertect these precious children 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤
I was at the Stamford Courthouse. I went to all the Hearings. I was on the Elevator with Fotis and Norm Pattis! It was very Creepy to say the least! To know I was next to a Murderer!
What day and time is he looking at the vehicle? I haven't seen this on our nationwide news channel yet
@@dawngrimes7361Law & Crime channel on TH-cam has it
Day 1,2,3 so far. For trial coverage
I bet!
@@dawngrimes7361 The day she went missing! State Police came early in the morning the next day.
No way! NORM? of Alex Jones fame, THAT Norm? Omg.
Michelle had to have known it was Jennifer’s stuff. She understood as much when she tossed it out, imo, and she really has no valid excuse for being clueless. It must be difficult for her to be the one left holding any part of the “bag”… you reap what you sow. 🤷🏼♀️
She was living in Jennifer’s home, so I’m sure she knew a great deal.
Knowing she was throwing out Jennifer's stuff doesn't make her an accomplice to murder. Could be the response of someone believing their new lover/ husband to be and just wanting get rid of all reminders in the hopes of creating a new life together.
Though if l was in that situation I would definitely be concerned about why he/we just don't return it all in a respectful and normally proper way. If he can just throw into garbage what rightfully belongs to the mother of his 5 children, and hopefully in the future will be part of their lives, l would be deeply concerned. Concerned enough to leave him.
I will never forget my father telling me to carefully observe the way any boyfriend of mine treats servers, animals and children. He deliberately put public servers and animals first, because the treatment of them appears less important. Then obviously children because it's easier to pretend, but most important of all, take serious note of how he talks about his ex, or exes, girlfriend/s or wife/ wives.
Not every person is overtly respectful to servers, that can be a show. Nor is everyone a natural animal lover , nor automatically comfortable and easy going with children.
BUT your ex is someone you felt for. Are they still holding a candle over them, or are they derogatory or boastful about them. If they are either of these 3 walk away fast and don't look back. Once l was so smitten I ignored his advice about a man who was derogatory about his ex girlfriend, yet weirdly, "respectful '". I would feel either wonderful in comparison to her, or horribly inadequate. She had talents and ways of doing things better than me and visa versa. I thank God he decided he was in love with someone else, though at the time l felt gutted. Subsequently I met his new love of his life at a seminar, still raw with being rejected, only to find out that she was going through the same emotional games with him. It was suddenly so obvious. The way he would glorify his ex, and then point out why he broke off the relationship had nothing to do with him. It was always about her faults and his need to be free of that kind of woman. When she met me and we started talking l could immediately sense that she was getting more and more perplexed, to the point where she asked if he had really ended our relationship, because everything he loved in a woman l appeared to be , and at the same time she had been told how dreadful I was. She was both intimidated by me, and at the same time superior. Exactly how l had felt about both his exes. We talked some more and then she suddenly said, " He's cold inside and controlling." At that moment I saw he was walking towards us with his deep look and warm smile. I literally went cold, then started to feel the same anxiety and unlovedness l had actually always felt with him. She said to him that we were going to get fresh martinis and would rejoin him at the table. My natural rebellious nature kicked in. As soon as we were a few steps away she said don't look back, l have never done this in my life, even when I have wanted to in other situations. I feel alive. I said Thelma And Louise, and we couldn't stop crying with laughter even though the movie was very dark, and we both really like and love many men. We weren't feminists and still aren't. When we returned to the table l was healed. I had seen in flashbacks just why his push-pull, hot- cold behaviour had got to me, and that l had unknowingly had also had the same way of operating in relationships. A "moment" of pure illumination and release. I could finally be natural with him. What joy! The 3 of us continued to talk, he did try to privately engage with, " why was l never this happy with him, it was all he had wanted ", but my mama~child psychologist in me was no longer there. There was nothing to say accept shrug, smile, clink my glass to his and continue the really interesting conversation l was in. I knew then that psychology was not going to be the field l wanted to pursue anymore, nor advertising . That l just wanted to be an English and Speech and Drama teacher, and that was fine.
The next week his new girlfriend called me up to say she had decided it was definitely over between them and he was now being both clingy and controlling. She found a new apartment and moved out. We are both in a good relationship, not always easy at all,with a man, mine going on to 23 years . He is Irish and irascible and I adore him when I am not frustrated with him in a healthy way.
None of all this intense shyte came close to literally murdering anyone. Figuratively yes. To get to that point is simply beyond me. To get self destructive l still need to be wary of.
To Life and all it brings to help us grow better and not worse.
Roses and thorns, and above all the pure grace and total faith and love for our true Lord, Jesus Christ. The Holy Trinity lives, and always will. Amen. And so be it.
The alibi scripts speak for themselves. Read her indictment she's no innocent party 😮
@@annabambus6572 Excellent description of your journey. Thank you Thelma’s/Louise. 👏🏼 Your illuminating experience when you met one of the girlfriends was very very interesting. I have read it twice and will go back for another careful read. Thank you for your testimony of faith! 🙌🏼🕊️🙏
It’s so obvious that Flotus murdered his wife and he’s not around anymore so I don’t understand why Michele isn’t being offered a deal for her honesty. Why is she not cutting a deal to lighten her sentence because she was absolutely an accessory.
Listened to an interview the other day on TH-cam where they speculated the same. The attorney in the interview stated that many times, the accused is looking for zero jail time, and if that's not part of the plea, they decide instead to take their chances with a jury. Unfortunately for Ms. Troconis, the fact that she was along for the ride when the bloody clothes were being dumped, and that Kent Mahwinny has turned state's evidence , are going to be two hurdles she didn't factor in to her decision. One has to conclude that whatever Mahwinny has to say has to be pretty informative in order for him to be released.
The state needs to be CAREFUL not to make this about proving guilt of Fotis. The jury will not be able to charge her with anything if the state is focused on Him. I really hope they get to Her involvement soon and keep the jury focus on Her. I hope they don’t screw this up 😢
It’s scheduled to be a long trial - into March - with over 100 witnesses. I’m sure they are currently laying the foundation and will get to Michelle at the appropriate time.
There's enough evidence on her alone. She wasn't too bright, clearly
The State has to build the case from the ground up. Give them the opportunity to tell the story.
@@susankeene2785 That's true!
State has to lay the groundwork to indeed prove she is dead, and not just missing. There are still over 200 witnesses that will take the stand before this is done. As long as the Defense keeps making vague statements about whether Jennifer is missing, instead of actually dead, it's going to be hard to convict on Conspiracy.
Why would you continue to date someone who’s wife went missing ? Especially after the sketchy disposing of trash bags around Hartford? She was definitely in on it!!
I’ve pondered the same question- I think she was now terrified for her life and believed he’d find her & murder her ( & her daughter) if she fled
Agreed that at some point she knew he did it. Just not sure of the charge Conspiracy, as I'm not sure she was part of the planning, but I'm definitely sure she was part of the cleanup. More than disgusting that after Fotis killed Jennifer, not hours later, he was badgering the nanny to bring the kids back from NY, as it was his weekend for visitation. Have never doubted for one minute that his plan, at the very least, was to kidnap those children and take them to Greece. An important point made during the trial , and probably not noticed by some, was the fact that he had gone back to court in early May to try and regain physical custody of his children. He lost that appeal, and I have no doubt that's what made him decide to take Jennifer out of the picture completely.
Please, this guy is ridiculous when he keeps saying that Fotis was trying to seduce Michelle to be part of his life at the time of the murder. 1.) Fotis started a romantic relationship with Michelle while he was still with his wife Jennifer and 2.) Michelle was living with Fotis in the former family home at the time of the murder.
She had such a beautiful home
It's OK.
At the end of the trial, when the jury goes to deliberation and she can see they will convict her - when she sees there's no way out of this and that she can no longer escape accountability - I wonder if the prosecution will offer her a "light at the end of the tunnel" plea deal...
Perhaps they will offer her a prison sentence with the possibility for parole in exchange for an admission of some guilt (participation) and, most importantly, the location of Jennifer's remains.
Im sure this is so important to her family.
It's my impression that pleas deals must be made before the trial begins, however, I'm no expert, so who knows? Did learn something interesting over the weekend though. Watched a podcast of a NYC crime investigator who is speculating that Jennifer was dismembered , as he stated that if her body was dumped or buried, the murderer wouldn't typically remove the clothes first. He stated that due to the fact that her clothing and underwear were dumped, leads him to believe that parts of her body have been dumped in various locations as well. He also commented on the partial bloody footprint in the garage. He commented on why the CT State police did not use a chemical which would have provided the complete outline of the shoe, not just the partial. He states that the partial print that was found tells him that it was a Chuck Taylor sneaker, and he actually recreated the print to show the entire outline. Very interesting podcast.
That's not a photo of Jennifer! That's Jackie O!
Just curious 🧐💭……
Who doesn’t know who Jackie O. is and said the picture on the wall was Jennifer Dulos?!? 🫣
Definitely Jackie O
Jackie went to Miss Porters School and Jennifer lived in Farmington, not far from Residence on Jefferson Crossing.
Picturing 5 happy kids in that lovely home breaks my heart.
Why do men who make their wives disappear always leave her purse on the counters of their homes. Michael st women don't leave home on their own, do not leave her purse behind!
Her purse was on the floor
I know nothing of this trial. Glad your showing it. TY
7:52 Brilliant Detective’s, Excellent detection (work) by the very first Officer’s who responded to Jennifer’s home.
Why did the cops not wear gloves with the inspection of the home?
Thank you for sharing this video and informative information; great journalism.
I am very impressed with the Judge, the Courts need more like this Honorable Judge.
It will interesting to see what evidence will come up in this case.
How worried was HE , about the Mother of these Children is MISSING, did he show he was Concerned?
Michelle can speak english she claims she only knows Spanish am I correct?
Yeah did her sudden struggles with the English language 🙄 mean she didn’t understand, from Fotis, what he planned to do to Jennifer or what he had done that she didn’t know about beforehand? I believe she was complicit at least after the fact. ⚖️
Totally 💯
Im glad they gave her the interpretation, dont want any cause for appeal
Her writing out their alibis was pretty clear English smh
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I've seen defendants wheeled into court in a wheelchair and hobble in with a cane, but don't recall ever seeing the "I [suddenly] don't understand English" tactic.
I'm trying to figure out why she needs spanish translator. Isn't she like... fully capable of understanding english? Is she doing this on purpose?
Great job NBC!
Judge Kevin Randolph reminds me of judge Clifton Newman from Alex Murdaughs trial…. 😊👍🏻
This man, like many other men who think they can just eliminate their spouses and get away, took the coward's way out.
Innocent of adultery or fornication? Those two factors of life usual lead straight to MURDER or THEFT. Sometimes we all get what our hands deserve. Even though one hands may not have touched the actual crime scene.. ⚖️
Guilt by association. Watched one of her initial police interviews, where she parrots the line Fotis told her- that Jennifer had bi-polar disorder. I'm sorry, but that's her explanation for why Jennifer is missing, or why Fotis may have killed her? Single chick with a child ( father unknown), desperately looking for the attention of a man , even if he's married? Sounds like she's the one with the disorder.
It will never make any sense: duffus husband has a gf that is far inferior to wife, conspires with husband to kill and dispose of wife. In this case, Dulos comitted suicide, the ultimate attempt to control this case, and narcissistic.
I thought maybe Dulos either counted on being found in time for him to come close to dying, but not so close that he would die, or he knew his fate, that he would be found guilty because he is, and he didn't want to spend the rest of his life in prison.
Final cout: he went out in a body bag and straight to hell.@@TheDarkDresser
@TheDarkDresser His multiple attempts at suicide (and eventual success) are textbook serial killer behavior. Being sent to prison clearly is part of it, as well as having his reputation dragged through the mud, but the most important thing to this psychopath is egotistical control. He MUST exert his control over the situation to prove his dominance. That is what the suicide is---it's his final act of control over everyone else.
That's always the odd component to all of these cases, replacement for wife is almost always inferior. Guess Fotis wanted to be the "smarter "one in the relationship, not something he had with Jennifer.
If she were innocenT ..she would have contacted police abouT the garbage disposal all over town 🚩..
& y " I'm presuming " w all her money.. didn't the wife have a security system and a bodyguard
Exactly. If she, Michelle, was the innocent, unknowing waif, she would have contacted the police immediately. Or would she? Fotis was providing housing for her and her daughter. I keep hearing she ran a company, she was an ESPN reporter, why didn't she have her own home? Pretty ballsy to move into the home of your boyfriend and his wife, the one he's not even divorced from yet. Not pity for this chick at all.
Well she was with him as he disposed of many garbage bags, plus she knew he was a married man. No idea if she knew he killed Jennifer but it seems she didn’t ask killer Fotis too many questions. I don’t believe her that she didn’t know. She knew. She just didn’t think Fotis would get caught. Now he’s dead, the coward and she’s left holding the bag.
Logic would tell you that a home builder of million dollar homes would not be dumping construction trash in residential garbage bins in Hartford. But we have to concede that it's possible that Michelle has no intelligence or logic. My guess is she was just happy to have a man. Bet she never thought Fotis would off himself, and leave her on the hook.
Guilty as hell!! 😮
She knew it! She is guilty!
Really appreciate James Bergenn and the way he objectively explains what is also subjective. If l had wanted to go into law, l would pray for a professor exactly like him, or as close as possible.
I am now a James Bergenn fan. 😅
I love this very intelligent judge! This case needs him!
Judge is very impressive. Not easily swayed by the drama the Defense tries to conjure up. Also appreciate the fact that he explains why an objection is sustained or overruled.
@@AnitaH-r3f Agree 100%. I hope he’s a professor somewhere!
Fotis was a real coward- murdered his wife, Orphaned his children and left his lover holding the bag. Literally turned on everyone including himself.
Officer just described what he saw on the grill of the vehicle! Her next question " Can you describe what you saw on the grill of the vehicle?" ,, 🤦
I haven't heard enough evidence to prove she was nor knew of her deceased boyfriend murdering his x wife Jennifer or knowing what was in those bags, I worked in construction yrs back and it wasn't uncommon that my coworkers while driving in the same vehicle would throw a few garbage bags into several different garbage bins careful to not over flow any one bin, so if I were captured bending out of this vehicle whether I dropped something outside the window on accident or like her trying to wipe a piece of gum off my finger and got caught on a camera/video during one of these occasion then find out later that my coworker kills his partner or x-partner does this make me guilty
Don't give a crap how much money she has ..she knew what he did and went along with it ..
After this time there should have been results of the blood on vehicle as well as items found being discarded
11:51 - Amazing how they can stretch out 2 minutes of body cam footage into 11 minutes of a repetitive nothing. 🤷🏻♂️
Mthis woman is a home wrecker thats numbet 1. She knew they had 4 5 kids and she had an affair. She knoes dam well what ernt on and i hope she goes to jail. To woman out there dont believe what the man tells u hes gonna say yhings u want to here yo get down ur pants period.
Ok I know it's high profile, just trying to get maybe one answer, I give up. When y'all have notifications on going live and I click on it says, can't pull up video. I give up trying to get information at all, I'll stick to local news. Prayers for all innocent involved 🙏🏼
I think she might’ve helped but I don’t think she helped Fotis, knows where the body is or helped dispose of it. I think there is pressure to have an outcome in this case and since Fotis is no longer available, she is being made the responsible party.
Yes so I just not cut a deal? Tell where the body is
Almost impossible to believe that she was living in the same home with Fotis and knew absolutely nothing, especially right after the murder. Also suspect, is her helping him create a timeline for his alibi. Why would he need an alibi? And if he was out working, and she was home, how could she help? Unless of course , he told her enough details, so they could rehearse their stories and get them straight.
No gloves as they they touch everything. Why why why
Unreal!
I do not think Michelle is guilty of intention to murder, let alone murder. She is " guilty" of falling in love with a terrible type of man . Maybe not fully in love but definitely deeply attracted . I have no idea what her citizenship status in the US is. I know she was a TV reporter for Venezuela. I have no idea what the political situation in Venezuela is, nor why she wanted to leave.
Her family come across genuine. She comes across frustrated and therefore angry and stressed with being misunderstood. I do believe her English is genuinely not up to par with drilling detective interviews/ interrogations. I believe she felt so panicked and caught up with what she suspected, or realised her not loving new "man" in her life had done.
She is in a dreadful situation where the dead man can't be interrogated, so everything falls on her, in our human desire to get justice for Jennifer and not only that, but 5 innocent children who have no parents now. Please let's not turn this into a damned if you do, damned if you don't witch hunt. We could honestly be looking at a woman who was manipulated and terrified, or someone consciously and deliberately involved.
Everything l see and read about her is almost automatically going for her as guilty of knowing what was happening with no deeper contemplation of why. Fear and panic can cause one to just act out; or being blindsided by the man you believe to be what he appears to be can have one so confused that you just switch into autopilot mode, thinking this will all somehow make sense when it's over. But "your" man decides to kill himself.
To what extent did she really know that he had had more than one wife and children.
Very smart people talk about the fact that she doesn't really cry, because all they can see is her wiping her eyes. I have seen people do exactly that. Their eyes tear up and before they let the tears flow, they immediately wipe their eyes in some unconscious or conscious attempt to be strong, as in hold it together, because in their culture, upbringing they have no right to cry, it's self pity which makes a mockery of those who are truly suffering etc.
We are never in a position to damn anyone, especially when the evidence against the person leads to so much speculation. .Yes we want justice for Jennifer, her five children and family. But tread carefully. The real culprit has killed himself. That does not mean we go baying for more blood so to speak.
Terrible things have been done in the name of justice. Otherwise we would not need an Innocence Project.
Are you her family?
Not every woman is the pathetic little helpless victim of a big bad man.
It's about time that female criminals are held to the same standard of accountability as their male co-conspirators and, hopefully, she will also be sentenced to serve a comparable prison sentence to Dulos (had he been convicted alongside her).
I've seen and heard enough female convicts paint themselves as "the abused", and being sentenced to pathetic prison terms, just cuz they have a v'JJ.
Feminists want "equality", except when it comes to obligations and accountability.
Thank You AnnaB. I agree. I have known construction workers to illegally dump to save money. Not legal, but happens. He could have told her anything. He said he needed her to clean a bathroom at a site. Possibly where he washed up. Many different construction supplies stain like blood, and many construction workers have cuts, scrapes and get blood on things. It's very believable to me, that she was lied to by an insanely angry man. Let's pray for a sober jury.
So true!!
It is best not to be involved in ';unliving anyone, ever, or in any way'. no matter how much you love someone; run Forest Run....when unliving anyone comes into the picture....run forest run....
Agree to disagree. She knew he was married, and she fooled with him anyway. He brought his WIFE and children on vacation, and she just also happened to be there? No , she's no innocent waif, no language struggling immigrant. Not buying it. Just this past week, she had several verbal exchanges with her attorneys in court. No Earphones, no translator. It's all a sham. She had no problem with Fotis cheating on his wife to be with her, no problem moving into his home in Farmington, even though he wasn't legally divorced, no problem defying the court order to be in the presence of his children , even though Jennifer had explicitly requested that not happen. No, she's not ignorant, she arrogant. And that arrogance it what has brought her here. So, she can fake cry and wring her hands, but bottom line- her desperation to hook up with what she thought was a wealthy man, and be a willing adulteress, led her down a rabbit hole. She's a grownup, she'll have to live with the consequences of her bad decisions.
Why not just come clean and end this? I don't understand dragging it out. This case will follow her forever no matter what, she'll never truly be free
The stuff they were throwing out in Hartford was meant to throw the police off, she’s still in new Canaan
I bet her instructions to involve herself wasn't in Spanish. another case of they may suspect me of murder but they didn't see me do it, so they can't prove i did it...
Lock her up!
she lied for him
The person who made your dress needs to arrested as well. Criminal.
The Petit murders didn't get this much coverage because of the dumb cop's reputation and the same goes for Ulvade Texas
Blind people...waooo😢😢😢
Wow! Doesnt look like the home is lived in. No furniture and not decorated at all !
Zero sympathy for them. They should be made an example of for those who think they are above the law.
Wait…..do they really have what was in the trash bags? Or are they just telling her that!
I don’t think they know.
Believed to be blood? You have got to be kidding they are calling it that, which means they did not do a DNA testing on it!
That’s the first impression by the responding officers. they are told it’s a missing persons case. As they carefully look around and come back to the garage, they become more suspicious when they see the “blood like substance.” After that, homicide detectives and forensic experts come in for the DNA work etc.
Ridiculous TRIAL absolutely ridiculous
Someone knows what happened.
Where is peoples common sense.
Is Jennifer even dead? Did she have a job? Or just a lot of babies and all the nanny's she wanted. How did she pay for all this? Is it possible she just left?
Please don't float that ridiculous theory. With all the blood evidence found in that home, there's no way she took off of her own volition. Her family is extremely wealthy, and her mother was paying the rent on the New Canaan home. The mother was also paying the mortgage payment on the Farmington home that she and Fotis shared, of course, until she moved out. There is no doubt he had more than one motive to kill her, the primary one being his avenues to cash being shut down, one by one. I suppose that's why he made another attempt to get custody of the children in May 2019, so he could get financial support from Jennifer. Not so odd in hindsight now, that when that request was denied , Jennifer goes missing not 3 weeks later, and her house is a crime scene. All about the $$$, always is . Think Fotis was stupid enough to believe he could get away with the murder, would automatically be awarded custody of the children, and access the cash their mother had in trust for them. But as with most murders, there's always at least one mistake made. Fotis was too much of a narcissist to kill himself, unless of course he knew the walls were closing in. And they were. Never heard a satisfactory explanation from his attorneys as to why Fotis would be in possession of clothing belonging to Jennifer, with her blood on it. He was not allowed to enter her home, how did he get it? There's only one way.
Hello if she didn't speak English much how she communicate with fotis dulos anybody knows I guess she speak only the basic with him
Have thought about this often. He's was a Greek American- spoke with an accent, She's supposedly Venezuelan- speaks Spanish. Last time I checked those two languages aren't even vaguely similar. Sign language maybe? 😏
@@AnitaH-r3f hello he was born turkey and then he move to Greece I look like his background Greek
@@chrissmith1716 we realize he's actually Turkish, but had family in Greece.
And then how come 1122 King Road was demolished, and buried? And even before the trial's have started. #thetruckeeway
Really new twist that a subject has to have a translation? Really only speaks Spanish and doesnt speak and understand english?
The initial police interviews show her speaking and comprehending English well enough. That's a little game her attorneys have come up with, however, I'm not buying it. She has been filmed in the courtroom several times this past week, speaking with the attorneys, sans earbuds or translator. I suspect, that is going to become a talking point in this trial down the road. Her attorney is going to claim that she didn't understand what the police were saying in the interviews . But I've watched them, and her responses are pretty prompt and in English. Bunch of B.S.
Ohh. blood.....
Why does the judge sound like Morgan Freeman though!
I wish this case would go away already.
Prison time!!!!!!!!!!
This trial is for her ex-husband not the gf The state is OVER reaching
Incorrect. On May 24th when she was riding around Hartford with Fotis, dumping Jennifer's clothes, and God knows what else, she had an obligation to notify the police. She didn't do that voluntarily, they identified her from the surveillance video in Hartford. Always better to play offense, apparently Michelle doesn't know that either. Are you trying to tell us she lived in a cave? That in the following couple of days when every news station was reporting Jennifer's disappearance, that Michelle was too stupid to connect the dots, that just maybe Fotis was involved somehow? This trial will come alive once Kent Mawhinney testifies. When he tells what he knows about Michelle's involvement, I think she'll have a hard time digging herself out. Absolutely do not believe that she and her BF Fotis never discussed his ex-wife, never discussed how he was bankrupt, and his former MIL was suing him. Granted Michelle probably didn't drive to New Canaan and commit the murder, but she is most definitely guilty of hindering prosecution as she withheld, and is still withholding, pertinent evidence to this case. She can start by telling everyone where Jennifer's remains are.
@@AnitaH-r3f 🤡
@@AnitaH-r3f Couldn't have said it better myself.
User, it’s quite possible she knew in advance that he was going to commit the murder and could have left Fotis and notified the police and Jennifer herself.
@@laura-cg7vl the opposite is true as well
Michelle doesnt soeak the language so she doesnt know anything
Echoooo too annoying
they found her body o my gad
Why are you spreading lies? 🤥
i ask a question i dont know if they found her anway is in the water for sure..i asume they found her becase they charge them this is the first time i ever knew about her mising but her face look familiar she is in the lake go look for her im not spreading lies i know my stuff beter than others
Enough, let LEO do their job's