The Long Route from Norwich to King's Lynn
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- Getting the train from Norwich to King’s Lynn isn’t exactly a direct route these days. Even though they're both in Norfolk I have to travel via Cambridgeshire! Join me as I take the long route from Norwich to King’s Lynn and explore the Fen Line! #railway #trainenthusiast #railwayhistory #railwaystation #norwich #kingslynn #sarah #trains
Filmed on 21st November 2022
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So nice to see a female train enthusiast. People think I'm weird but they really don't appreciate the wonderful stock and buildings. I once missed a Pacific ( my favourite) so I feel for you! Keep 'em coming and thank you so much. I remember Watlington when it was Magdalen Road
Thank you so much! It's always good to encounter other female enthusiasts 🙂 A lot of people think that trains are just a "man thing".
@@sarahwiththetrains I know! I go to train events e g steam and model fairs and men fall over backwards with shock when they find out. My husband bought me railway metal sign at auction and the auctioneer told those assembled that the gentleman had bought the sign for his wife...there was a sharp intake of breath and a collective look of horror and pity...I.e " he's a dead man!"
I encounter this a lot in the IT world and aviation too, it's really very weird and completely illogical. When that attitude appears, I enjoy asking what biological factor they believe prevents women from participating. Usually met with silence...
@@jamfjord 😂
Have you not watched any of G LOVES TRAINS vlogs. she is great but sometimes wears her knickers on her head
Brilliant video Sarah! I’m from Lynn originally (now in London) - great to see a video about these lines and Ely which I know so well. I’ll never understand why they didn’t keep a connection between Lynn and Norwich, even if it meant changing via Dereham which is another route people used to take back in the day. Great channel!
All the best,
Nick
In the '50's, you could have travelled Norwich Thorpe - Dereham-Swaffham-King's Lynn. I know because I did it!
Norwich to King’s Lynn does take much longer than going by road via the A47 which is like 45 miles from Norwich to King’s Lynn.
Hello Andy
Sarah has a very good narrating voice. She could be on mainstream television - I find her very interesting to listen to..
I may be a tad late in finding this video, myself but I love journeys like this! Nice work! 😊
Thanks Nick! 😊
Another new subscriber here. I am not familiar with this part of England at all, so it was good to learn something about railways from this area. Very interesting and very well edited and filmed video too. Terrific stuff!
This was a great little film. Informative and interesting - love these sorts of things and it’s good because a lot of people can’t travel, but through little films like yours we can come along for the ride - keep them coming!
Thought I recognised the accent. Great vid, applause from a fellow Staffordshire exile!
Wonderful video like and subscribed from Czech Republic 🙂👍👍👍🔔🇨🇿🇪🇺
Bi-Mode Babe.... Do like that! Brilliant Video. But still need to visit Kings Lynn.
Thanks! I loved the alliteration when I got the idea to give 755412 a nickname 🙂
Thank you for this one. There was clearly a lot of editing to do as well as a long day recording. I have looked on Google Maps to see how close Norwich and King's Lynn are as the crow flies. As you say, it's a roundabout journey!
Well you certainly put the TV stations broadcasting to shame, what a wonderful program/video, make mooooore..❤❤
Similarly, being a cleethorpes resident, from cleethorpes to Skegness by train, has to be either Doncaster or Newark, then Grantham, then Skegness
I am new to your channel.
I enjoy your enthusiasm, your knowledge and your humour.
All good stuff.
Thank you so much! Glad you're enjoying my videos!
Excellent video Sarah. You’re now top of my favourites list alongside Geoff Marshall
Oh wow thank you so much Graham! So glad you enjoyed it so much 🙂
The café at Ely used to be called Palmer’s Coffee Bar and I used to spend a happy half hour there on a Sunday evening waiting for my connection to Birmingham New Street.
10:56 thats the Mo/We/Fr sand train from Middleton Towers to either Barnby Don Rockware Glass or Ince & Elton Encirc glass works. Sadly the only freight traffic on this line north of Ely ☹️
Brilliant video Sarah!
Well researched, filmed and narrated! 👏
The 755's are a bit of a curiosity with their power pack coaches, but I like them.
That little building at Watlington looks like an old coal yard office, once common at stations with a coal yard.
Look forward to more videos! 👍🙂
Glad you liked it! Thank you for supporting me! Thanks for the info about the old building being a coal yard office. I had a brief look through the broken window and it seems now to be used as a storage area/dumping ground for Network Rail.
Glad to see you out and about. Follow you o TikTok too and now I know I must get out again soon lol. Last time i went on that line was the EACH rail tour 3 when we did Norwich-Ely-Kings Lynn and then a thrash to Liverpool Street with 2x class 37's and 4 mk2 carriages.
Hi Sarah just come across your tiktok n found out u had you tube love your stuff give some info thay people would not normally find out
Just discovered your channel from a fellow train fan based on Lowestoft
A fabulous video. You now have a new subscriber. Thank you so much.
I've enjoyed your video and subscribed your channel
You really look like a young Michael Caine.
It's the first time I see a video of you Sarah! I like it. And you examen the stations as thorough as Geoff Marschall. These signal boxes, are they still in use? I presume not.
As you point out it is a circuitous route from NRW to KLN nowadays. That service from NRW appeared to be a well patronised one. I doubt that there was another person onboard heading for KLN. Nevertheless, you appear to have had a good day out. It would appear that Geoff Marshall has laid down the basic parameters for station reporting. Did you try to find out why Downham Market had been chosen for the NSE makeover?
It seems to be that it is a tribute to a member of the Railway Heritage Trust named Chris Green who was credited with saving the station whilst at Network South East in the 1980s.
Don't get ne started on that! Not to mention how much quicker access would be to the ECML and the Midlands if Norwich had its route out West again!
Trains run from Norwich to Peterborough though
What a lovely surprise stumbling across your channel. Great work! 👏
Nice video Sarah
Really enjoyed it
You got a great style of presentation
really enjoyed watching your video, look forward to the next one
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
I live about a 10 minute walk from Littleport station. Nice to see my adopted home on youtube lol
A really enjoyable video. It and you kept me amused for the entire length of the feed. I know KL quite well having spents an entire day on the platforms. I am also old enough to have taken steam trains from Kings Lynn to Hunstanton, I shall watch out for further SarahWit contents.
The only bit missing ( forgive me if it did get included ) is that the double track formation disappears shortly north of LittlePort and does not reappear until shortly before Downham Market station. This causes operational headaches as it immediately restricts the flow of all rail traffic in both directions.
It's same coming down from Sheffield, it goes via Grantham Peterborough Ely and Thetford.
I took a long route from Cambridge to Norwich. If I have the time, I intentionally take the longer journey or get off at an intermediate stop. This means that I would take Cross Country to Ely, then EMR to Thetford, then Greater Anglia to Norwich. Going back using the same company to Diss, Stowmarket, and change there back to Cambridge. I only do this if there is a second train within 40 minutes
Nice video. As well as going via Cambridgeshire, you also went via Suffolk. Of course, you could have gone via London. Or Norwich to Sheringham and caught the coastal bus......
Very enjoyable video, covering the tortuous route that now links two of the largest towns in Norfolk. The A47 road between them is terrible. I do like Ely, however. It is a lovely town to visit, and the station is very well served- I've made some videos there myself.
London politicians and some of the old British Railways managers (before British Rail business led sectors) have served Norfolk badly, being determined to close the East-West routes and the Hunstanton line (which passed through my village). The campaign to reopen the latter line is a waste of time- it won't happen as the schemes being dreamt up are totally cuckoo.
Pity you missed walking around Downham Market. That is also quite a nice town.
As a matter of interest, there were also several long lost branches off the line. One short spur off the line between Watlington and Lynn served the very short-lived oilfield at Setchey. Not many people know about it as the extraction of oil sands was not economical and there is no sign of it now.
Apart from the cold and the muddy footpath, I hope that you enjoyed the journey.
Hi Sarah, good vlog thank you. There are still some freight sidings at King's Lynn (opposite side of Morrisons). They are used by the Middleton Towers sand trains to run around prior to going to the quarry for loading or heading up North with their load of Silica sand. There is generally at least one a day (Mon - Sat) and sometimes two, they are predominantly Class 66's though there is a DB Freight Class 60 on Fri or Saturday. Hope this helps and keep up the good work!
Nice little video. Lowestoft to great Yarmouth would be another roundabout route that once had direct rail services
Great film Sarah, loved it. You travel all that way to King's Lynn and when you get there you realise.. you're in King's Lynn. Only joking... I loved all the historical details as always. Good to see you using NLofS archive maps now, like the Whitewicks/Geoff and Vicky/Martin Zero do. The presenting was spot on very natural. I feel very old, because I travelled a lot on Network South East trains in my early twenties. Now a station has been "restored" to it. Oh well. Loved the film!
I'm so glad you enjoyed it! Funnily I started researching lost railways because I happened to find old, disused stations in Norwich when using NLS archive maps at work. It took me far too long to think about using them in my videos!
@@sarahwiththetrains It sounds like you have the ideal job for you if you are using those maps for work. I'd like to thank you by the way as you have inspired me to set up a Kofi page for my own modest engineering youtube channel. I was in two minds but your comments sealed it for me. So thanks.
Commenting late, but I seem to recall that there is a specific historic reason for the purple color we see at Littleport.
Good evening young lady how are you today from Alan in Lowestoft xx
Did you mention the route that used to exist via Wymondham, Dereham and Swaffham?
Oh... Stopped before the Beeching cuts, I didn't expect that
Those subtitles are absolutely terrible.
5:12 How did they train manage to forget which TOC it works for? I could understand it might feel embarrassed to admit it was a Northern train but Thameslink?
I thought that was weird too!
Great video my home line..did you know about the Lynn to Dereham line also another way to get to Norwich pre 1968 but not sure if could do direct .well don’t keep up the good work
Thank you I'm glad you enjoyed it! I did look into the Lynn to Dereham line but from what I can tell it didn't connect Lynn & Norwich directly. I could be wrong though!
@@sarahwiththetrains no I think your right think there was a change needed…I love disused lines but need to take a visit to Berney arms loved that video as well keep up the good work
@@sarahwiththetrains It did connect direct to Norwich, there were through trains. When I lived in Wymondham they were hauled by Clauds.
yeah good voice!!
Sarah, missing your favourite train is a kit kat moment. I hope you were prepared ?😊
I actually was! 😊
JFC! Well done.
Watlington dweller here! Someone noticed us! If it's your thing there's some nice remnants of the disused lines all over this area, including in King's Lynn itself (you might have seen some bridges on your way in). But that's not one for a cold day. Nice video, cheers :)
Glad you liked the video! I'm hoping to get some stuff done about disused railways of Norfolk but as you that's something for the warmer weather 🙂
There's a few lines in King's Lynn that look abandoned but are actually seldomly used goods lines.
Nice video Sarah
Cool 👍 😎
Loved the video! If your wondering why the 387 you jumped on at Ely, the reason the doors were blue is because C2C Traded them over because they weren’t needed anymore. As most of their fleet are being replaced by 720/6 Units. Also quite rare to see freight round the KL Line? Wonder why there were there! Maybe they were on diversion. I’ve been to Kings Lynn many times! And never seen a 66 or a 68 or a sneaky 69..
Hi there, the Class 66 is an almost daily occurrence from/to Middleton Towers they move Silica sand to a number of glass manufacturers up North. There is one or sometimes two a day. There is a odd class 60 which pops down for a weekly collection on a Fri/Sat.
Certainly not 'most' of the c2c fleet being replaced. There's only six Class 720/6 units.
@@bfapple I’ve seen around 15 of them, unless they were coupled up. Or it was the same train
@@MrTransportAddict In any case, there aren’t any known plans to withdraw 357s.
Great videos, keep up the good work 👍
Thank you! Right back at you! Love your stuff! 🙂
Thank you! 🙂
Hopefully one day the direct service will be reintroduced. A lot of the route is still there as a goods and heritage railway or mostly clear of obstruction (Norwich - Wymondham - Dereham - Swaffham - King's Lynn). Only major exception is near Dereham but a new route to the north would be better anyway as it'd avoid reversing.
Quite odd that they *restored* Downham Market to NSE colours rather than just having left them that way because it wasn't important enough to refit when the franchise changed hands countless times after privatisation. Although it was part of NSE, Norfolk isn't generally considered the South East any more than the bits of Devon and Somerset covered by the line out of Waterloo (also formerly NSE) are. A weird thing about that part of Norfolk was that although it was served by NSE trains out of London, its TV was from Yorkshire.
King's Lynn itself was always just Lynn and that's how the locals still refer to it. Much like Bognor (Regis), the royal name was given as an honour for something or other. There's a freight company there called Lynn Star.
Great video
"The Long Route from Norwich to King's Lynn"
- It's the only route !
River Ouse. The subtitles are as usual, pretty poor and mis leading.
Flatlands knuckle grinders esp in kings Lynn.
Well it's a nice ride and history lesson. Thanks.
But both Traveline (and my automatic intuition) indicate the change of train at Ely.
So, from Ely to Cambridge you're double tracking over unecessary extra milage (which I assume you also would be required to pay for) .
I did change at Ely though. I didn't go to Cambridge.
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@23:36 I think that would have been the weighbridge office. (Probably had a weighbridge directly outside the office) connected beneath the office to the scale which would have been in the office and probably operated by station staff.
There would have been a time when you could have left Norwich Thorpe, travelled via Wymondham, turned right and travelled via Dereham, turned left and then via Swaffham to Kings Lynn.
In the bench end support @17:19 isn't that the old Eastern Counties Railway logo displayed?
Things go backwards
Years back on a visit to Kings Lynn we entered the yard at the side of the station and found an old Pullman coach abandoned on a track panel. The track beyond the coach had been lifted. I know Peter Skuce who your last photo was credited to. Not seen him for a number of years, but occasionally swap comments with him on Facebook.