Avro Lincoln; The Super Lanc That Was Outdated When it Arrived

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  • @tomnorcross859
    @tomnorcross859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    I was a navigator on Lincolns with 61 squadron at Waddington, Eastleigh Nairobi, and Wittering, and later with 83 squadron at Hemswell.before joining the V Force Valiants at Marham. I am 90 years old now, and joined the RAF in 1950 as a cadet navigator.

    • @TheOnlyTYRE
      @TheOnlyTYRE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Thank you for your service. You secured our freedom and safety. o7

    • @paladamashkin8981
      @paladamashkin8981 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      How cool. Glad you found this video sir and an honor to meet you

    • @sprre3899
      @sprre3899 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I hope you are keeping well. 🫡

    • @pierreschmit9148
      @pierreschmit9148 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      My respects to you, Sir

    • @dickdastardly5534
      @dickdastardly5534 ปีที่แล้ว

      Godbless you sir and thank you for protecting mine and others futures❤️🙏🏻

  • @pauldulworth2768
    @pauldulworth2768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    I just watched this with my 7 year old son, his first foray into military aircraft. He said, “I liked watching that.” And so another generation is introduced to this passion and I cannot think of a better channel to start his education with. Cheers.

    • @EdNashsMilitaryMatters
      @EdNashsMilitaryMatters  3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Excellent! Though please check my videos before showing him, I do have bad language/adult humour in a few.

    • @marineboy6033
      @marineboy6033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lovely anecdote!

    • @warrenmilford1329
      @warrenmilford1329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Introduce him to making plastic model kits and see if he likes it. He'll not only learn about planes and tanks etc, but also of world history, and the parts they played in it. He may enjoy it more than video games.

    • @LaurenceLDN
      @LaurenceLDN 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@warrenmilford1329 I'm not sure the world needs any more plastic...

    • @warrenmilford1329
      @warrenmilford1329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@LaurenceLDN Well, you're right about that, but there's a lot less plastic in probably 50 model planes, compared to a game console, that is replaced when the latest model is released, and ends up eventually dumped. As well as in the make up and packaging of new games, which once played, share the same fate. I learnt so much from making models, not just from the info supplied about each one, but also from the further reading that it encouraged me to do. There are also balsa wood and cardboard models available as well.

  • @_od_7825
    @_od_7825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    It’s worth noting that it was developed into the Shackleton, which was the very final variant of the Manchester line. That remained in service to the early 90’s.

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Indeed. From the mid' 1930's until about 1994... damn impressive for any aircraft lineage.
      That; and the Manchester line also spawned the Lancastrian, a seperate spinoff aircraft, and the Lanc' / Linc' were the first British aircraft of their size to test turboprop's & straight up jet engines.

    • @robmclaughjr
      @robmclaughjr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Another awesome name. It should be given to another tough plane.

    • @atlascheethac7869
      @atlascheethac7869 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sadly the Shackleton only saw action once with South Africans in its whole international service life

    • @LEESS1005
      @LEESS1005 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was at Lossiemouth with the Shackleton,the BBMF had the engines and all the spares after the Shackleton left service.

    • @LEESS1005
      @LEESS1005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimtaylor294 the actual history is,Manchester,Lancaster,York,Lancastrian,Lincoln,Tudor,Shackleton and Vulcan,there were several other civilian versions of the above aircraft,(York and Lancastrian),and can’t forget the old faithful Annie.

  • @dave41184
    @dave41184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    The Lincoln was designed with the concept of the 'Bomber Stream' attack method still in mind. It improved on areas where the Lancaster had fallen short which Ed explained. The Lincoln might well have seen service over Europe but for some development issues. For example the 3 blade propellors on the Lincoln B.I caused a lot of vibrations and only 50 or so were made, until it was found that 4-blade props cured it. All the B.Is were then converted to B.IIs. Integration into service took a long time too.
    For Tiger Force ops, I think the intention was that the Tallboy and Grandslam bombs would be used to bomb Japan's bridges during a land borne invasion of the mainland. I like the Lincoln, it has a place in the RAF's history.

  • @paulkirkland3263
    @paulkirkland3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    When I was a child, I used to sneak under the fence at RAF Watton, and play inside a couple of abandoned Lincolns.

    • @1joshjosh1
      @1joshjosh1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That would have been definitely fun.
      Dropping pretend bombs on Japan!!

    • @raulduke6105
      @raulduke6105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You lucky dog!

    • @toomanyhobbies2011
      @toomanyhobbies2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And somehow security just missed you? IDBY

    • @yahoo463
      @yahoo463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wouldn't have been so much fun bumping into an RAF dog.🐕

    • @paulkirkland3263
      @paulkirkland3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@toomanyhobbies2011 This was in the early 1960s, and it was a very different world back then. On Sunday afternoons, people used to go for walks on the airfield, past parked Vickers Varsities and Canberras - an RAF police van used to do a circuit of the perimeter track every hour or so, but that's all. The two Lincolns were lying on their bellies at the north east end of the airfield, ready to be used for fire training, and we lived in the married quarters nearby, ( Cardington Road if you want to Google Earth it ). It was easy to slip under the fence and get to the aircraft. Later on, around 1968/9, they were gone, but there was a HP Hastings and a Canberra's cockpit section lying in the same area, both also accessible.

  • @bulukacarlos3571
    @bulukacarlos3571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Greetings from Argentina. An important use that was given to the Lincolns in addition to those mentioned in the video was to "bombard" the first Argentine Antarctic bases with supplies until the construction of landing strips.

    • @scootergeorge7089
      @scootergeorge7089 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Greetings from the USA. In 1975, I was assigned to USN patrol squadron VP-65 when we retired the P2V-7 Neptune. Many were mothballed but a few were purchased by Argentina. Their surface search radar came in handy locating the Royal Navy during the Falklands/Malvinas fight.

    • @Yosemite-George-61
      @Yosemite-George-61 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "LV-ZEI" 🙂

    • @terrystevens5261
      @terrystevens5261 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@scootergeorge7089 There are no such islands as the malvinas.

    • @scootergeorge7089
      @scootergeorge7089 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@terrystevens5261 - No "malvinas" but the Argentines call a certain islands "Malvinas." or, more specifically, "Islas Malvinas." The English, call them the Falklands. Facts.

    • @mikerodent3164
      @mikerodent3164 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@scootergeorge7089 Yup. 1494, Treaty of Tordesillas, sanctioned in 1506 by Pope Julius II, says that all land everywhere belongs to either Spain or Portugal, with a big dividing line in the Atlantic. No land belongs to heathens, and even less to despicable heretics. The problem is that Popes are infallible (though, technically, they only became infallible 3 centuries later, so a big question relates to whether Papal infallibility is retrospective). So anyway, tough luck for the indigenous inhabitants of South America: convert or ... I dunno, burn in hell for all eternity, perhaps? Either way, no land for you. Fortunately, no-one at all ever lived in the Malvfaklands until some miserable, cold British people decided to try it one day. But, aha, Papal infallibility! So yes, the Failkvinas belong for all eternity to the pious Catholic faithful of Argentina. As long as they remain Catholic, pious and faithful, the fact that they are Conquistadores and imperialists can be forgiven (if they confess and repent, sincerely, all the sins they can think of). But do they remain so? And when they repent their sins, are they truly sincere? God knows.

  • @JK-rv9tp
    @JK-rv9tp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The engines also soldiered on powering the Canadair Northstar airliner, which delivered hearing loss and tinnitus to many a Trans Canada Airlines traveler.

    • @deltavee2
      @deltavee2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When i was a kid they were of course called Tin Can Airlines. I believe we have a North Star sitting outside at the Air Museum here in Ottawa waiting for restoration.

    • @garethonthetube
      @garethonthetube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, never a good idea to have unrestricted exhaust stacks next to the passenger cabin. I think there was a mod that routed the cabin side outlets to the other side of the nacelle.

    • @JK-rv9tp
      @JK-rv9tp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@garethonthetube Yeah I think so. That was why the first class section of most piston airliners was at the BACK, not the front.

  • @brucehewson5773
    @brucehewson5773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I have a photo of my father, standing in the cabin of RAAF A73-31, head above the cockpit, guiding the pilot while taxying after landing at Tengah, July 1951, being the first aircraft to complete 100 operational sorties in Malaya.

  • @CallsignEskimo-l3o
    @CallsignEskimo-l3o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    My father was a Gunnie with the RAAF loading the Lincolns with bombs during the Malayan Emergency. He always a a soft spot the the aircraft.

    • @alan6832
      @alan6832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really don't see why they kept making them after ww2 ended. The few Lincolns made before VJ day, along with remaining Lancasters and a few purchased B29s, could have filled the gap from Lancaster to Valiant, especially if they could produce a few B29 components in cooperation and for local parts supply.

    • @nomdeplume798
      @nomdeplume798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My dad was in 205 Sqn for most of his 9 years in the RAF. They flew Sunderlands from RAF Seletar in Singapore and also carried out bombing raids on what were then termed CTs. Bombs were mounted on racks under the wings instead of depth charges. He said he couldn't understand why they were just bombing monkeys and birds, l later found out there may have been method in their madness.

    • @davidewhite69
      @davidewhite69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alan6832 didnt help that Australia had a Prime Minister who was staunchly supportive of everything British and refused the RAAF the approval to buy American until the Brit equipment became hopelessly obsolete, hence why the RAAF had Lincolns, meteors and Vampires instead of B-29s and F-86s.

  • @Simon_Nonymous
    @Simon_Nonymous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I've just got back from the pub after a six pint session and got this gem to watch. Thanks Ed!

  • @johndavey72
    @johndavey72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Boy ! That' s a hell of a photo at 4mins 10 secs Ed. 3 feathered with just the Starboard inner running ! No margin for error from that pilot ! Thanks Ed. (Someone mentioned Shackleton !)

    • @DickHolman
      @DickHolman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      WOW!
      Is that an RAAF turbo-prop variant?

    • @jamesbugbee6812
      @jamesbugbee6812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ekeing out flight in ground effect?

    • @terrystevens5261
      @terrystevens5261 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DickHolman Flying testbed.

  • @mpersad
    @mpersad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A terrific analysis of the end state of the Avro Manchester. The context for the aircraft in post-war era is spot on!

  • @rojaunjames747
    @rojaunjames747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Since you are doing post war aircraft can you do the DH Hornets one aircraft that is forgotten in history

    • @brucebaxter6923
      @brucebaxter6923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      love that plane

    • @raypurchase801
      @raypurchase801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Phenomenal. Useful to compare the Hornet with the Dornier Pfeil, an aircraft designed for the same purpose but dreadfully over-complicated. Whereas De Havilland simply grafted a single-seat cockpit to a Mossie and made a thousand detail improvements.

    • @brucebaxter6923
      @brucebaxter6923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@raypurchase801
      Yep.
      Metal spar
      Straight spar
      Offset landing gear
      Smaller nacelles
      Thinner wings
      Counter rotating props
      Etc etc etc

    • @raypurchase801
      @raypurchase801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@brucebaxter6923 Agreed.

  • @tgmccoy1556
    @tgmccoy1556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    The British know how to "Stretch" a design.
    Ask any MGB owner.
    BTW the Shackelton wasn't taken out of service until
    The late 80s /early 90s

    • @davecoz4227
      @davecoz4227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      TH-cam agrees, here's a 1990's doc about them th-cam.com/video/elENLa01XHA/w-d-xo.html

    • @tgmccoy1556
      @tgmccoy1556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davecoz4227 thanks 😊

    • @jonboy9912
      @jonboy9912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And the V Bombers hit the Falklands and refuelled the fleet for decades!

    • @WoT_the_Feck
      @WoT_the_Feck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yup Canberra is still in service with NASA I believe

    • @johnkelinske1449
      @johnkelinske1449 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WoT_the_Feck Yep.

  • @johnjephcote7636
    @johnjephcote7636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That shot at 08.54 looks like the third prototype with three-bladed props that I photo'd at Cranfield in the late fifties/early 60s. Still in camouflage with the 'P' but no guns. Three bladed props upset the harmonics of the a/c so they went for four-bladed. The Cranfield prototype was scrapped. The Napier de-icing Lincoln at Luton had a Lanc nose which made recogmition awkward when, as a schoolboy I walked around it (no security then). Lincolns regularly popped up at Biggin Hill airshows and at one I photo'd the last three on a flypast.

  • @underconsideration3227
    @underconsideration3227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    Finally evolution? Shackleton anyone?

    • @truckerallikatuk
      @truckerallikatuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Yep, the super-lincoln aka the super-super Lancaster, or the super-super-super Manchester...

    • @javiergilvidal1558
      @javiergilvidal1558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Arguably Shackleton is not a super-Lanc, since it's not a bomber. The Manchester lineage of the Shack is undeniable, but the latter might rather be called a next-generation Sunderland. Whaddya think?

    • @dylanmilne6683
      @dylanmilne6683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@javiergilvidal1558Aircraft don't lose development heritage because of change in role. Regardless Lancasters we're used as maritime Recon post war too. Sunderland was a flying boat a totally creature made by a totally different company.

    • @javiergilvidal1558
      @javiergilvidal1558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dylanmilne6683 .... but not for a "totally different" purpose! Funny, too, that you answer my "The Manchester lineage of the Shack is undeniable ..." with "Aircraft don't lose development heritage because of change in role".

    • @allangibson2408
      @allangibson2408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The Shackleton wasn’t quite the final evolution either - the RAAF built four turboprop Lincoln’s that were used in atomic tests in Australia. They were used to drop prototype nuclear devices from 45,000ft to calibrate the aerodynamic models for the British V-bombers.

  • @gm16v149
    @gm16v149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You learn something new every day, because I always thought the Lincoln was powered by the 37 litre Griffon, as in the Shackleton. I was going by the shape of the radiator nacelle. Apparently it just had uprated 27 litre Merlins from the Lancaster. They used to fly from the Woomera-Evetts Field aerodrome in South Australia.

    • @jimwest63
      @jimwest63 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wilburfinnigan2142 The Lancaster could carry 14,000lb to Berlin. Not exactly short range in the context of the war against Germany.

    • @jacktattis
      @jacktattis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wilburfinnigan2142The US gave nothing they made the UK pay

    • @jacktattis
      @jacktattis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wilburfinnigan2142 Lancaster 1660 miles with 14000 lb

  • @nairbvel
    @nairbvel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Considering the fact that active duty Lincolns made it all the way through the 1950s I'd say she didn't do too badly for a design that was basically born obsolete... :-)

  • @dwp1970
    @dwp1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video, Thanks. I almost always chuckle when I read or hear "Why didn't they simply..."
    It's hard to predict the future especially when you are fighting a World War.

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally Ed, IMO, you are doing your channel PERFECTLY.
    Regular content, SHORT videos usually (very important, I think), always interesting, well presented, good data, HUGE variations in stories PLUS, you have a great delivery...you sound knowledgeable but easy going.
    And I still love that you save us 15+ seconds from EVERY, OTHER VIDEO site (it seems) and their slightly-condescending, sales pitch 'don't forget to like, subscribe and....blah, blah' after EVERY vid.
    In my opinion, for what it is worth, you keep this up and you will be over 100K subs FAST.
    Cheers.

  • @johnjephcote7636
    @johnjephcote7636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love that shot (nerves of steel to take it!) of the single engined Linc flying on the deck during proximity fuse testing.

  • @Hiznogood
    @Hiznogood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This channel is turning out as one of my favorites! Keep up the good work!

  • @johnfinch8173
    @johnfinch8173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi Ed. The South African Air Force used the Avro Shackleton for maritime patrol up to the 1970's if I remember correctly. It would be great if you could include the history of this aircraft when you have the time. Love your videos.

  • @asc.445
    @asc.445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Lets also not forget shortly after came the Canberra and the V bombers. It was just a question of timing.

  • @ross.venner
    @ross.venner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    03:18 - Note the Village Inn radar under the tail turret. Best photo of the install I have seen.

  • @peterthepilot4413
    @peterthepilot4413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    My Dad flew the Lincoln and the B29 and thought that there was no comparison, he loved the B29

    • @tomstevenson161
      @tomstevenson161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Where the
      Lincoln looks like another B-32 failure

    • @owenshebbeare2999
      @owenshebbeare2999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tomstevenson161 Yet the Lincoln wasn't a failure, unlike the B-32.

    • @arakami8547
      @arakami8547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wonder what the unit costs were for the two aircraft; Lancaster was 1/3rd the cost of a B-29, I see the Lincoln being 1/2 that of the Superfortress. Development costs were definitely larger for the B-29, it was more expensive than the atomic bomb.
      Edit: this video states you could get 3-4 Lincoln's for a B-29, or 5 Lancasters for a B-29.

    • @peterthepilot4413
      @peterthepilot4413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      When my Dad picked up various B29s from the USA the first thing he would buy was leather or rubber to repair his shoes and boots then chocolate and candies.

    • @russellmiles2861
      @russellmiles2861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, the RAF preferred the B29 and flew them in early 50s as a stop gap till the VBombers arrived.

  • @gregjetnikoff7124
    @gregjetnikoff7124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I grew up in my early years with the local Air Force having Lincolns at the local Air Base ( Townsville, Queensland. Australia). They used to have open days. I have actually been inside one AND sat in the rear gunner seat. They became coastal patrol planes before the Neptunes began.

  • @TheDkeeler
    @TheDkeeler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm still awaiting for a 1/72 scale model kit of the Avro Lincoln to be released.

    • @Simon_Nonymous
      @Simon_Nonymous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      me too Dave - I'm bracing myself to make a Manchester conversion from a Lanc in order to complete a 1:72 Bomber Command line up, but would love to make a Lincoln just to end the story

    • @PiersLawsonBrown1972
      @PiersLawsonBrown1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can purchase a conversion kit that makes a Lincoln from an Airfix Lancaster B.I/III kit, made by a company called Flightpath UK.

    • @pickeljarsforhillary102
      @pickeljarsforhillary102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Get on it Airfix!

    • @adriaandeleeuw8339
      @adriaandeleeuw8339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PiersLawsonBrown1972 www.southernskymodels.com.au/AVRO-GAFLincolnMk-30-Mk-31EnhancementSet-4158.html

    • @atilllathehun1212
      @atilllathehun1212 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, long overdue. Come on Airfix!!

  • @doughart2720
    @doughart2720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    G'day Ed. For someone who specialises in odd and rare aircraft I'm surprised that there was no mention of the long nosed Mk 31 Lincoln of the RAAF. Maybe another time.
    But keep it up. This is good stuff.

    • @Ensign_Cthulhu
      @Ensign_Cthulhu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He did touch on "Australian Lincolns of various marks", but I think the main thrust of the vid was to detail its evolution in the RAF context and what lay beyond it.

  • @stracepipe
    @stracepipe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My Dad flew Lincolns in 83 squadron at RAF Hemswell and for the Bomber Command Bombing School at RAF Lindholm. My claim to fame is that his squadron flew the planes in the film "The Dambusters".

    • @dean-gm1lg
      @dean-gm1lg ปีที่แล้ว

      Parts of the film where filmed at hemswell as well I believe

    • @stracepipe
      @stracepipe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dean-gm1lg yes, it was used as Scampton.

    • @dean-gm1lg
      @dean-gm1lg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stracepipe I thought so I go to carboot and autojumble at hemswell

  • @EdMcF1
    @EdMcF1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Dad was flown around Arabia when in Aden in the RAF in a Lincoln in the mid-1950s, one of them had been used in Malaya and was a bit knackered, it never made it home as the fuel tanks broke so it was scrapped locally.

  • @nevd78
    @nevd78 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:37 Quite sure this picture shows MIG 17s. Identifying features including; third wing fence, slightly greater sweep on inner part of wing leading edge, little fin under rear fuselage, base of vertical tail barely overhangs engine outlet.

  • @mcal27
    @mcal27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Loving this series on lesser known aircraft! Can I add a vote for the Armstrong whitworth Whitley?

    • @simonmcowan6874
      @simonmcowan6874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's so 1930's

    • @mcal27
      @mcal27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@simonmcowan6874 Yeah has 1937 written all over it! Angular, but I love it! I also love the Skua and Whirlwind lol

    • @oxcart4172
      @oxcart4172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's one of those aircraft that looks like an April Fools joke-but the government fell for it!

    • @mcal27
      @mcal27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oxcart4172 what can I say.. I love the ugly ducklings lol To fair the Whitley along with the Wellington did Stirling work early in the war

    • @oxcart4172
      @oxcart4172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mcal27 it has er...character, I suppose!

  • @briancavanagh7048
    @briancavanagh7048 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr Nash
    I must compliment you on your videos. They are just getting better & better, all the time. Not that they weren’t excellent to start with.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @jamesbulldogmiller
    @jamesbulldogmiller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    No aircraft lasts forever... except the B-52 , and the KC-135

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Don’t forget to C-130 and the U-2.

    • @KnowYoutheDukeofArgyll1841
      @KnowYoutheDukeofArgyll1841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Tu-95

    • @jamesbulldogmiller
      @jamesbulldogmiller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AtheistOrphan
      you’re Right in both accounts.
      The U-2’s ‘replacements’ SR-71 and A-12 are all in museums, now.

    • @jamesbulldogmiller
      @jamesbulldogmiller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KnowYoutheDukeofArgyll1841
      Of course!! the loudest plane ever, also the longest lasting!

    • @brianwillson9567
      @brianwillson9567 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And the U2

  • @GaryJohnWalker1
    @GaryJohnWalker1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Ultimate developmemt of the Manchester - a footnote video on the Shackleton would be well worthwhile. Stalwart for Coastal COmmand and of course dragged on into AEW service.

    • @luvr381
      @luvr381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Was just about to make the same comment.

    • @cowbanchalam9725
      @cowbanchalam9725 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, my immediate thought too.
      I remember visiting a couple of retired Shackletons at Gatwick

    • @ryanparker7258
      @ryanparker7258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Shackleton was also used in the ASW role before being replaced by the Nimrod.

    • @wideyxyz2271
      @wideyxyz2271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember seeing a formation of these flying over on their way to Woodford at the end of their service life. For a few moments I thought Id slipped back in time until I realised what they were! A glorious sight indeed!

    • @adampoultney8737
      @adampoultney8737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not to mention the Tudor or Ashton

  • @MarkCSevenSixTwo
    @MarkCSevenSixTwo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Uncle Roy would want you to look at the Short Sperrin next, Ed....

  • @noahwail2444
    @noahwail2444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for this, but i can´t help wondering why they did´nt use the Griffon or the Centaurus engine, and stuck it on a tricycle landingear...

    • @chefchaudard3580
      @chefchaudard3580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Because of the weight, first: these engines were heavier. It would have required an extensive redesign of the wings to accommodate them.
      And more power for what? Heavier loads? It would have required an enlarge fuselage and new larger wings. A new aircraft, in short. And the speed would have been only marginally better, at the expense of a higher consumption.
      The Lincoln was an improved Lancaster, not a new design, unlike the B-29. There was only so much that could be done with the Manchester airframe.

  • @adoreslaurel
    @adoreslaurel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a teenager [around 1956], I got to look inside one at the Government Aircraft Factory in Melbourne. fascinated by the bomb bay bypass, from memory you dragged yourself down this rectangular tunnel by as rope to get to the other end.

  • @itsnotalwaysblackandwhite8624
    @itsnotalwaysblackandwhite8624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was always under the impression that the next step up from the Lancaster was the Avro Shackleton. In all my years, sadly, this is the first time that I have come to learn of the Lincoln. As time goes by there seems to be more information coming out of the woodwork about innovations that occurred in WWII.

  • @adamlee3772
    @adamlee3772 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting video. Thanks for taking the time to produce and upload it.

  • @markpatterson4917
    @markpatterson4917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great info did it turn into a Shackleton eventually I remember seeing it at finningly back in the 80's

  • @terrystevens5261
    @terrystevens5261 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That low level one engine shot was taken over RAF Defford near where i live in Worcestershire. a lot of pioneering radar research took place there, due to it's proximity to the Royal Radar Establishment in Malvern. the worlds first hands off flight and automated landing also took place at RAF Defford. the arcraft used was an old Boeing 247-D airliner that was gifted to the UK by Canada. that happened in 1945 and we now don't even think about it when we board our holiday jets.

  • @robertguttman1487
    @robertguttman1487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Vickers had a much more advanced bomber in development at the sea time, called the "Windsor", but it did not go into production.

  • @RichieWellock
    @RichieWellock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    well done @
    Ed Nash's Military Matters i recently went round one of avro's plants were at least the lancasters were made, Amazing all the avaitional bits still left at abandoned AVRoe manufacturing plant , even finding parts of a avroe tudor. great to hear you information on the Lincoln's progress

  • @martenikaeltheroy3621
    @martenikaeltheroy3621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 2:22 dark stripes on the wings behind the engines, are these oil streaks or paint scheme ?

  • @kayserbondor
    @kayserbondor ปีที่แล้ว

    54 MU at Lichfield had many Lincolns in LTS 1952-3, very handy for a kip if you were on night picket patrol, I suppose they went to the breakers yard not long after. There was an area there that had been used for A/c’s scrapped, Typhoons, Mosquitos etc., still lots of lights perspex and fittings around in fair order. U/c lamps perfect spotlights for your motorbike.

  • @rangefinder3538
    @rangefinder3538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The Lincoln doubled for Lancasters in the "Dam Buster" film.
    Another great episode Ed.Great work.

    • @johndavey72
      @johndavey72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really ? I think you're wrong but l will check up ! I thought the RAF used and adapted 5 Lancasters for the film .

    • @davidjones332
      @davidjones332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No, they're definitely Lancs.

    • @johnjephcote7636
      @johnjephcote7636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The film makers used the four Lancs held in storage since the making of the far better film (for aircraft and accuracy) of 'Appointment in London'. It was filmed at a Lincoln/Canberra station so there are many Lincolns in the background with postwar markings. It was difficult to keep the Canberras out of shot. The film company was secretly charged less because the RAF crews merged their film work as continuation training (from the Lincs). After the film the Lancs were quietly flown away to Silloth to be disposed of. Coastal Command kept some MR Lancs until October 1956.

    • @stratac30
      @stratac30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnjephcote7636: correct, as described in the book Filming the Dam Busters by Jonathan Falconer.

    • @localbod
      @localbod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I could only find this information online.
      However, when I checked the serial numbers against a database of RAF airframes, they were shown as being Avro Lancaster Mk VIIs.
      Curiously enough the Lancaster Mk IV and Mk V were later designated Lincoln B1 and B2 respectively.
      Information:
      "For many, the stars of the film are undoubtedly the Lancasters themselves. It is hard to believe that Lancasters were in short supply when the filming commenced in April 1954.
      Four Mk.7 aircraft were taken out of storage from 20 Maintenance Unit at RAF Aston Down, Gloucestershire, and specially modified for the film.
      These were NX673, NX679, NX782 and RT686. In fact, ’673, ’679 and ’782 had already developed a taste for the movies because they had recently starred in Philip Leacock’s feature film about a wartime Lancaster squadron, 'Appointment in London', which was premiered in 1953.
      To make the Lancaster Mk.7s resemble as closely as possible the actual B.III (Type 464 Provisioning) aircraft that flew on the Dams raid in 1943, three (NX673, NX679 and RT686) were specially modified at Hemswell by a working party from the AV Roe Repair Organisation at Bracebridge Heath, Lincolnshire.
      Purists will notice a number of differences between wartime Lancasters and the Mk.7s that appear in the film. Perhaps the most obvious is the Frazer-Nash FN82 poweroperated rear turret that was equipped with twin Browning 0.50in machine guns. In 1943, the Lancasters of 617 Squadron would have been fitted with FN20 rear turrets armed with four of the less-potent 0.303in Brownings.
      In addition, the series of small windows along each side of the fuselage that were a noticeable feature of wartime Lancasters were deleted from the post-war Mk.7.
      And note, too, the absence of the engine exhaust covers that would have been present on wartime Lancasters to reduce glare and suppress sparks from the hot exhausts at night."

  • @michaelblaszkiewicz7283
    @michaelblaszkiewicz7283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wonder why they didn't change the nose for more speed? It looks as aerodynamic as a Mack truck.

    • @Simon_Nonymous
      @Simon_Nonymous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it's fugly isn't it?

    • @atilllathehun1212
      @atilllathehun1212 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a so called' ideal nose' (why I don't know) A production Vickers Windsor if built would have had something very similar.

    • @michaelblaszkiewicz7283
      @michaelblaszkiewicz7283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@atilllathehun1212 I would guess the guys from marketing thought it sounded better than "garden shed" nose.

    • @Ensign_Cthulhu
      @Ensign_Cthulhu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At the speeds the Lincoln does, visibility matters more than pure aerodynamics. Remember: the Lancaster's round bubble is a bomb-aimer's station only; the Lincoln's nose also has to serve as the nose gunner's sighting station since the actual gun turret is "blind" unlike that of the Lanc.

  • @pushkarajdongre
    @pushkarajdongre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I wish my father was around, he would have tripped out on these vids!!

    • @javiergilvidal1558
      @javiergilvidal1558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was he a packy Halifax pilot?

    • @pushkarajdongre
      @pushkarajdongre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@javiergilvidal1558 , no he wasnt in the packaging industry nor was he a pilot. Infact he was an architect and an aircraft enthusiast especially for the ones from the second world war.

    • @paulkirkland3263
      @paulkirkland3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pushkarajdongre packaging industry - love it. Nice comeback, sir. Some people are so thick they can't even spell their insults properly.

  • @robertthomas3777
    @robertthomas3777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating.
    Where did the Avro Shackleton come from?
    Great report.
    Thanks.

  • @boomslangCA
    @boomslangCA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Regarding the B-29, there were also massive development problems with it and for a while it looked like it would die before it saw any active service due to the problems but the US, being the US, stuck at it and got it working finally.

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Usually, if you throw enough money at a problem, it can be overcome. Not the smartest solution (usually), but a reliable one.

    • @interman7715
      @interman7715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The B29 was a very advanced design with pioneering features which naturally bring problems, the B 29 made everything else look stone age .

  • @tutekohe1361
    @tutekohe1361 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The photo at 1:50 appears to show the Lincoln flying with both starboard engines shut down and props feathered - presumably part of the testing regime.

  • @henryluczak9156
    @henryluczak9156 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was born and raised in Hatfield (South Yorkshire) near RAF Lindholm, under the flight-path to the north-west of the aerodrome. An enduring memory from the mid 1950s is watching Lincolns climbing towards and over our house, their Merlin engines on full power, still at a relatively low altitude. They were eventually replaced by Hastings, which although just as noisy, were not the same spectacle as the Lincolns.

    • @stuartmoles7138
      @stuartmoles7138 ปีที่แล้ว

      I spent my last 18 months of RAF service at Lindholm on Lincolns as an engine Tech. We also had 1 Hastings and about 8 Varsities as the Station ended up as the Bomber Command Bombing School for Navigators who were destined for the new V bomber force.

  • @galvaniclegend917
    @galvaniclegend917 ปีที่แล้ว

    At around the 1:55 mark, the Lincoln is flying on 2 engines. Is this to improve cruise range or for testing? Or something else?

  • @davidhandyman7571
    @davidhandyman7571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My father worked at the Experimental Workshops of the Department of Aircraft Production at Fisherman's Bend, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. I remember him talking about being involved in experiments to convert Lancasters into Lincolns.

  • @SvenTviking
    @SvenTviking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    To be fair, the B29 was equally as vulnerable to the Mig 15, it wasn’t that much faster than the Lincoln, not enough to challenge a 650mph jet.

    • @mebsrea
      @mebsrea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Right. At that point, maneuverability and damage resistance were probably more important.

    • @jeffreywilliams144
      @jeffreywilliams144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The B29 had a much more lethal Defensive armament and more range.

    • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@jeffreywilliams144 no it didn't. Its defence was no match for jets. Jets made these bombers obsolete

    • @jeffreywilliams144
      @jeffreywilliams144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 I have Never been a fan of WW2 British Heavy Bombers Including those Joining B29s Over Japan if the War were to Continue. You're Correct the Lincoln was Obsolete and the RAF Washingtons as Well.

    • @jeffreywilliams144
      @jeffreywilliams144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 Just an Aside I am not talking About Korean War Skies here.

  • @stephenwarhurst6615
    @stephenwarhurst6615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember seeing a out of service Lincoln park near the runway at Wagga Wagga at RAAF airbase Forest Hill mid 1970's when I was around 6 years old when there was a Air show

  • @brendonbewersdorf986
    @brendonbewersdorf986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never heard of this plane thanks again for bringing it to my attention I do alot of writing on alternative history so rare aircraft like this give me all kinds of ideas thanks again!

  • @bulukacarlos4751
    @bulukacarlos4751 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greetings from Argentine Patagonia. What was expressed for use by our country is correct, but one more use was missing: At the beginning of the 50s Argentina's strong presence began in Antarctica, but there was no good landing strip, so the Lincolns were used for "bomb" the bases with food and other supplies. A very anecdotal use was the bombardment of the Perito Moreno glacier (I don't remember the year) because the glacier did not break like it usually does every 4 years, and a lot of water was accumulating with the danger that this entails.
    By The way
    0:21 Narrator:"- But no plane last forever......"
    C-130: "-Hold my jet A-1"

  • @georgebarnes8163
    @georgebarnes8163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not forgetting the big Short Stirling, the heavy bomber that was restricted by politics and not allowed to be developed, had the Stirling been allowed its big wings it was more than a match for the Lancaster.

    • @robertcook2572
      @robertcook2572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Keep Campaigning The hangar size thing is a myth. Look it up.

    • @grahamepigney8565
      @grahamepigney8565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A big problem with the Stirling was the angle of attack on the wings. Rather than rebuild it (which would have produced a nose down flying stance as per the Whitley) they just lengthened the landing gear to get the wings at the right angle for take off. The spindly undercarriage was responsible for many take-off and landing accidents.
      The upper fuselage and wings were taken from the Short Sunderland. The Stirling had a limited bomb load and the segmented bomb bay restricted the ordnance it could carry.
      The standard hanger was 112 feet, and servicing was to be carried out in the open air. The 100 feet wingspan was part of the Air Ministry specification
      I believe it was all electric. I have a fire axe that is rated safe at 1,000 volts that came from my grandfather who worked for Shorts.

  • @yaragi
    @yaragi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, once again! I thoroughly enjoy your work.

  • @samrodian919
    @samrodian919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting I knew almost nothing about the Lincoln until now. And I know a lot more about it's successor the Shackleton. Thank you.

  • @ratofvengence
    @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great vid, loving going through your back catalogue :)
    One thing though, I thought you could have mentioned the maritime patrol 'stretched' Lincoln the RAAF developed.

    • @EdNashsMilitaryMatters
      @EdNashsMilitaryMatters  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm tempted to do that as a one off sometime.

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EdNashsMilitaryMatters Brilliant! Love your work mate, thank you :)

  • @jasonkeen3777
    @jasonkeen3777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wasn't a Lanc in the running as the aircraft to drop the atomic bombs, as they could take bigger bomb loads? I'm shore I saw a video about that.

    • @flat6s
      @flat6s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was a Mark Felton video.

    • @jasonkeen3777
      @jasonkeen3777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's right, thanks

    • @petersouthernboy6327
      @petersouthernboy6327 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not seriously. The Lancaster had the same total gross take off weight as the B-17.

    • @petersouthernboy6327
      @petersouthernboy6327 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonkeen3777 The B-29 was *always* going to be the plane to carry the atomic bomb and Spaatz never seriously considered anything else.

    • @owenshebbeare2999
      @owenshebbeare2999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@petersouthernboy6327 Not even remotely true, the Lancaster could carry much more weight than the B-17, and beat the gross weight by 11,000 pounds (54,000 against the Lancaster's 65,000 in normal operation, more with modifications such as needed for the Grand-slam bomb which itself wrighed in at 22,000 lbs.

  • @lesterross1
    @lesterross1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, another Remembrance Day here in Canada. I am lucky to live in Southern Ontario, where we get to see one of the only Lancasters still flying, pass over the memorial services at the the Cenotaph. Look forward to it every year.

  • @jeffreywilliams144
    @jeffreywilliams144 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are there any Lincolns displayed in Museums anywhere? I recall seeing something during the 90s regarding the disposal of the bombers by setting them on fire. I hope I am mistaken.

  • @WolfKenneth
    @WolfKenneth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Avro Shackleton next? Or maybe Tudor and Ashton?

  • @johnparrish9215
    @johnparrish9215 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that a small Radar Dome just below the tail gunner???
    If it is it would have sure given night fighters a few problems.

  • @jb6027
    @jb6027 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One could argue that the final evolution of the Manchester/Lancaster was the Shackleton.
    Love your videos. Please keep them coming!

  • @sealove79able
    @sealove79able ปีที่แล้ว

    A very interesting video Mr.Ed.Have a good one.

  • @lairdcummings9092
    @lairdcummings9092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A similar argument has been made in support of the m-91 carcano rifle; not the most modern battle rifle - not even in the Italian inventory - but adequate to the task and far cheaper than retooling and replacing the existing inventory at a time when resources were severely constrained.

  • @albertmak5496
    @albertmak5496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this video's, hope you'll do one on the DO-26 sometime????

  • @lordpitnolen2196
    @lordpitnolen2196 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thoroughly enjoyed my VIP-Day visit and trip in a Lancaster at East Kirkby, Lincolnshire, England.
    Should be on everybody's "bucket list".

  • @dermotanthonydavidkyne1019
    @dermotanthonydavidkyne1019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I note that you do not refer to the final modification of the Lincoln, the so - called "Long - Nosed" Lincoln. Which had an extended nose. Which housed an additional crew member. They were used by RAAF Marine Reconnaissance. They were withdrawn from service around 1957. And scrapped in the early 1960's.

  • @SimonAmazingClarke
    @SimonAmazingClarke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent account. In war, especially when it seems yiur on the home run, expence on aircraft design is hard to justify. As was mentioned, it was basically an up designed Lancaster.
    In the 1950s both Jet engines and turbo prop engines were coming out with so much more power. The C130 Hercules was designed around 1954.
    Note, even the highly advanced B29 was on its way out shortly after the war.

  • @dovidell
    @dovidell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    a bit off subject but 7:59 reminds me of when I was at Duxford for the centenary celebrations of the RAF (2018) , when I ( and many others ) saw a Lancaster , a Panavia Tornado , and an F 35 (B ? ) flying in formation

  • @stilettoheelslover
    @stilettoheelslover 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My father was an armaments fitter on Lincoln's (amongst others) in the RAAF, 1948-58.

  • @josephking6515
    @josephking6515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did they rectify the small escape hatch that the Lancaster had and doomed so many of the crews when shot down?

  • @joeblow9657
    @joeblow9657 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating stuff Mr Nash

  • @jimtaylor294
    @jimtaylor294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A criminally underrated aircraft IMO. Ironically the Shackleton - in some ways a shortened Lincoln - proved much more could be squeezed from the airframe, with her four *RR Griffon* engines turning contra-rotating propellers, complimented with two Viper turbojets.
    Russia's postwar Tupolev Bear, certainly suggests that the Lincoln could have been developed further, in a more useful way than the *Boeing Washingtons* we had for a relativy short time, and - to the best of my knowledge - never carried nukes, which is what they were theoretically for.

  • @frasermitchell9183
    @frasermitchell9183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And if you want to see an actual Lincoln, go to the RAF Museum at Cosford in England. You can also see two of the V-Bombers there too, a Vulcan and a Victor.

    • @garethonthetube
      @garethonthetube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Superb museum. Lots of amazing prototypes. There is a Valiant there too, the only one left I believe. Excellent Cold War exhibition as well.

  • @gordonlawrence1448
    @gordonlawrence1448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The Lincoln was not the last derivative of the Lancaster. The Shackleton first flew in 1949 and retired in 1991.

    • @poil8351
      @poil8351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      avtually the shackelton was a derivative of the lincoln itself.

    • @Dilley_G45
      @Dilley_G45 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He said "the final evolution of the MANCHESTER"

  • @Niinsa62
    @Niinsa62 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this a lot! And now, please please please, the final version of the Manchester-Lancaster-Lincoln - the Avro Shackleton? Please?

  • @letsseeif
    @letsseeif 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The origin of the Lincoln was the twin engine Avro Manchester (not ideal) which morphed in the four engined Lancaster (a HUGE success), then as the war neared the end, the LINCOLN materialised. Apart from the normal production run in the UK, Australia built 73 Lincolns at Fishermen's Bend (CAC -Commonwealth Aircraft Factory) Melbourne VIC..

  • @kalle123
    @kalle123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 8:37. Think, the picture shows MIG 17 not MIG 15

  • @iskandartaib
    @iskandartaib 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the bubble on the bottom of the fuselage? Targeting radar? I suppose one could argue the next step in evolution was the Shackleton, though that was actually a marine patrol bomber.

  • @Mishn0
    @Mishn0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The aircraft pictured @8:37 are MiG 17s. Still good video. And if Airfix puts a Lincoln kit out, I'll buy it without a second thought.

    • @EdNashsMilitaryMatters
      @EdNashsMilitaryMatters  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh! Good spot! Yes, I missed that. Too keen to get the video finished.

  • @ModelMinutes
    @ModelMinutes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should do the cargo transport version of the lancaster next :P

    • @veronicabennett4359
      @veronicabennett4359 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Known as the Avro York. One can be seen on static display at the Imperial War Museum, Duxford, Cambridgeshire.

  • @geezee1579
    @geezee1579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome that Someone with UK accent giving out specs in MPH and Feet which can understand while the American gives out specs in Metrics.

    • @bop3752
      @bop3752 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What school did you go to that didn’t teach both?

    • @geezee1579
      @geezee1579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bop3752 An American Federally Funded Pubic school system. At the time the Inch system was the only system in this country, Which kept this country Great.

  • @maladroit5376
    @maladroit5376 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hopefully you'll be doing a video about another development of the Lancaster- the Avro Lancastrian civil airliner built / converted in the UK and Canada.

  • @Sonofdonald2024
    @Sonofdonald2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cracking video as always. Looking forward to the next one

  • @donquixote3927
    @donquixote3927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It would seem foolhardy to develop a Superfortress clone with the jet age at the door. There were about to be plenty of B29’s in storage as the B50 came on stream.

  • @andrewbranch4918
    @andrewbranch4918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I was a kid I used to see the shakelton flying over the north east coast on sub patrol. Didn't look outdated to me. It looked beautifully belligerent especially those two 20s sticking out of the front turret. Same stable, same quality. Too young to see a Lincoln unfortunately

  • @toomanyhobbies2011
    @toomanyhobbies2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job, Ed Nash!

  • @markorollo.
    @markorollo. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I may have mentioned this on this channel before so apologies If I have, but I live in Chadderton, Oldham, about a mile from what used to be an Avro factory, don't know if these were built there? I know Lancaster's were, Sadly you wouldn't have any clue as to what the factory used to be if you didn't already know, I didn't for years, There's no sign or some kind of statue commemorating what used to be there, there should be.

    • @donquixote3927
      @donquixote3927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes there should be and there was a makeshift one visible for years as I was growing up in the 60s and 70s. What was purported to be a Lancaster wing protruded northwards from a hangar halfway down Greengate. It would be interesting if anyone can verify this.

    • @markorollo.
      @markorollo. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donquixote3927 I couldn't, my family before I was born in the mid 70's were mostly from Shaw and Fitton Hill, never ventured into this area, so I doubt they would know either. I know a neighbour in her 80's whose lived across the street in New Moston all her life, I could ask her.

  • @baystgrp
    @baystgrp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never heard of the Lincoln. An interesting development, and a very impressive greenhouse nose.
    Assume it still used the Merlins?

    • @nickdanger3802
      @nickdanger3802 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      BAE Lincoln page
      www.baesystems.com/en/heritage/avro-694-lincoln

  • @alanhigham6509
    @alanhigham6509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I worked on Lincons at Manby in 1958-59.

    • @sirronnorris3343
      @sirronnorris3343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RAF Hemswell 1953-54. My father was an 83 squadron Lincoln rear gunner. Flew 20 sorties from RAF Tengah, Malaya. That followed his 40 operations as a Halifax rear gunner in 1944.

    • @alanhigham6509
      @alanhigham6509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sirronnorris3343 I flew as as crew on several 6 hour flights. I spent most of the time on the rest bed just below the mid upper turret as my headset was duff. Happy days. Alan.

  • @LEESS1005
    @LEESS1005 ปีที่แล้ว

    My old ATC commanding officer,flight lieutenant Ken Norman was a navigator on Lincoln’s and was part of the bomber force over Borneo.

  • @kevinohalloran7164
    @kevinohalloran7164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been reading about World War ll since 1965, and I've Never Heard of This Model Until Now! That's how important channels like this are. Thank you for your excellent work and presentation, Ed Nash!