4 Dog Domestication Theories

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  • 4 different theories on how wolves became man's best friend.
    Not by me this week, but David Ian Howe of Ethnocynology fame.
    Check out David's stuff here!
    / ethnocynology
    / @davidianhowe
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    Disclaimer: Use my videos as a rough guide to a topic. I am not an expert, I may get things wrong. This is why I always post my sources so you can critique my work and verify things for yourselves. Of course I aim to be as accurate as possible which is why you will only find reputable sources in my videos. Secondly, information is always subject to changes as new information is uncovered by archaeologists.
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  • @Yayojayoful
    @Yayojayoful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +932

    This guy is like the undomesticated version of Stefan Milo. Much more aggressive and unpredictable, thought it is clear he might have something to offer in the future.

    • @DadMaster
      @DadMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Dude is an enigma, funny and smart but like clearly some screws loose. Hahah.

    • @BehindtheTrowel
      @BehindtheTrowel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      They're both awesome. I interviewed David yesterday. Check it out on my channel 🤠👷🏽‍♀️

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@BehindtheTrowel I had a lot of fun Tash!

    • @Bootes_Void
      @Bootes_Void 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing better than a city boy telling you how dogs were domesticated thinking that a domesticated animal just means a very docile animal that just eats what you feed them and understand to sit whenever you ask them to… Also I don’t think he understands the concept of when scientists say they ate all or most of the animal.

    • @elis7393
      @elis7393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Bootes_Void why do you think he thinks that? I don't understand what you're trying to say here

  • @SaintBroken
    @SaintBroken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1435

    Human: I never thought I'de hunt side by side with a wolf.
    Wolf: How about side by side with a friend.
    Human: I like that.

  • @davidianhowe
    @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +698

    Thanks for the opportunity Stefan! Glad to work with you! If you guys like this, my dog, and don’t hate my face, I’m happy to post more on my channel!

    • @parkerthanyou
      @parkerthanyou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Really funny and interesting, it's a pleasure to listen to you, i'm subscribing

    • @dharmendrasinghrana36
      @dharmendrasinghrana36 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      dude you are fantastic:D

    • @MarkVrem
      @MarkVrem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Your voice 10x better than Stefan's. I mean I'm sure Stefan is aware of this also, so not a dis or anything lol

    • @mirnasale7263
      @mirnasale7263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Subscribed!!! You are awesome!
      And your logo is beautiful!

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mirnasale7263 Thank you! And yeah, Ettore is a gifted individual.

  • @jeremiasrobinson
    @jeremiasrobinson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +523

    When did humans start talking like babies to dogs?

    • @stevenobrien557
      @stevenobrien557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Who says they spoke that way to human babies first? Where is your supporting data?

    • @jeremiasrobinson
      @jeremiasrobinson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I said "like babies" not "in the same way we speak to babies" although I can see how you would assume one means the other.

    • @Gandalf-The-Green
      @Gandalf-The-Green 3 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      when the first wolf playfully rolled onto its back and had that cute "cuddle me" look in its eyes

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      When they became modern urban trash. In the past dogs were work animals, not "babies".

    • @Gandalf-The-Green
      @Gandalf-The-Green 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@LuisAldamiz well, it goes at least back to the Romans, they adored their dogs and built crypts with beautiful inscriptions for them: th-cam.com/video/Vxlci1d2rOg/w-d-xo.html

  • @jonnyhames7013
    @jonnyhames7013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I was in Kazakhstan visiting an ice rink in the mountains. There was a kebab van outside the ice rink and some wolves had come down from the mountains and were eating kebabs from the bin outside the kebab van

    • @cincin4515
      @cincin4515 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Perfect hunting ground is the kebab house. For both wolves and drunk people.

    • @krisaaron5771
      @krisaaron5771 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      One look from those soulful wolf eyes and I'd share my kebeb in a heartbeat!

    • @michaels4255
      @michaels4255 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Evidently, wolves don't have much flight distance when food is involved!

  • @jackking3454
    @jackking3454 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    There was the story of "Romeo," the friendly wolf who showed up near Juneau in 2003. He played amicably with local dogs and was friendly with local people. Then some out-of-town hunters came and killed him. In spite of the bad ending, Romeo might have been the kind of genetic "sport" ancient people discovered to help create dogs.

    • @krisaaron5771
      @krisaaron5771 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Human skin makes beautiful leather -- perhaps there's a use for Romeo's killer other than as a target for archery enthusiasts?
      I was going to say "Romeo's murderer" but someone always goes bunched-undies if that word is used to describe the slaughter of a non-human.

  • @dp0004
    @dp0004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    I feed birds. I had 1 gull tap on my window to be fed. Now there are 2 young gulls tapping on my window. This is in 1 generation.

    • @trucid2
      @trucid2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      "Generation 10. I now have 1024 gulls tapping on my window. Send help."

    • @dp0004
      @dp0004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@trucid2 ha ha ha!

    • @krisaaron5771
      @krisaaron5771 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@trucid2 Start worrying when they pick the lock on your front door! Their ancestors were dinosaurs, so things could get ugly...

    • @trucid2
      @trucid2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@krisaaron5771 Would you fight one t-rex sized seagull or 1024 seagulls?

    • @tannermccune4011
      @tannermccune4011 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Lemon Party the t-rex sized seagull is the clear answer. They have thin and hollow bones. A big one would be easy to fight, it would probably just die on its own without me doing anything.

  • @neutralfellow9736
    @neutralfellow9736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    The soviet fox storyline was superb.

    • @jaysinha0
      @jaysinha0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rich English people would just hunt it.

  • @josecarvajal6654
    @josecarvajal6654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    This video should´ve been called: Dogmestication.
    What a missed oportunity right there.

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      omg

    • @josecarvajal6654
      @josecarvajal6654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@davidianhowe Dude the logo of your channel is awesome, loved it, just like your channel!

    • @BehindtheTrowel
      @BehindtheTrowel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha. Why didn't I think of that 🤔 I interviewed David yesterday. Check it out on my channel 🤠👷🏽‍♀️

    • @josecarvajal6654
      @josecarvajal6654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BehindtheTrowel definetily will!

    • @brunopimenta8204
      @brunopimenta8204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Should't it be Wolfmestication i mean... you know what i mean.

  • @hallamhal
    @hallamhal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I love the look on those bisons' faces at 4:45

    • @rooney0423
      @rooney0423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      "Wtf?! Hey Jerry, these aren't doggos. We've been bamboozled!"

    • @user-mm5jp4yz4q
      @user-mm5jp4yz4q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It says: MABLA...Make America Bison-Landic Again~!

  • @reignorshine.
    @reignorshine. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    Those dog foxes are a compelling argument, wagging tails and floppy ears wow . I reckon it could've been a combination of all those hypothesis sis.

    • @1943vermork
      @1943vermork 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      And for unknown reasons the morphology and fur patterns of those fox, are changing and becoming more dogs like.
      They don’t know if subconsciously the researchers have been selecting others traits than just behavior.
      Fascinating.

    • @deandarvin553
      @deandarvin553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@1943vermork Behavioral traits are linked with physical traits. You breed for one kind, you'll get changes in the other.

    • @infinitemonkey917
      @infinitemonkey917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I think a combo is more likely. Perhaps it was the self domestication / flight wolves first, then the more docile of those were selected by humans. As he said - it is unlikely people took a den of wild wolf pups and just started picking less dangerous ones.

    • @justsomenuts
      @justsomenuts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      the floppy ears, tail wagging, and color spots are neonatal (baby) traits. Hence why they are linked with less fear of humans.

    • @1943vermork
      @1943vermork 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@infinitemonkey917 It’s always multi factors. Once a tiny option is unlocked, someone or something will try to take advantage of it. Any living thing will adapt its behavior or strategy to a new situation within its own limits.

  • @dylanthorson8595
    @dylanthorson8595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    We don’t deserve this high a level of production value. Love this guy!

    • @MegaFunkysoul
      @MegaFunkysoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do!

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I can’t tell if this means it’s good or bad 👀. Thank you either way!!

    • @BehindtheTrowel
      @BehindtheTrowel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Davids work is awesome!

    • @LondonReps
      @LondonReps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah the editing skills are top notch, really compliment the humour.

  • @williamparker1644
    @williamparker1644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    I've found coyote dens before when we farmed in Kansas. The little pups have no fear of humans and will lick you all over wagging their little tails. They'll follow you home if you let them. I can't imagine primative people wouldn't want to keep one for a pet. Natives in the Amazon jungle keep all kinds of pets. Monkeys. Birds. I'll bet a wolf would make a great pet if you caught a little one and raised it.

    • @user-mm5jp4yz4q
      @user-mm5jp4yz4q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Coyote is the holy pateron-protector of several Athabaskan clans and tribes from their members being caught and interviewed by the evil trickster wolf-headed Turkic Khan of Borat Sagdiyev who managed, with his shamanistic tricks, to cross the Bering landbridge after them in order to mock their great country.

    • @ellobo768
      @ellobo768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They do!
      Aaaaaaooooowwww

    • @pong9000
      @pong9000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      There is a mechanism prompting most nest-nurtured animals to suddenly acquire independence, and it's a real time bomb if you think your raccoon kit (or whatever) will forever be your attentively dependent little baby. Something snaps when they mature to make them hostile to their siblings, their moms, everybody. It's what makes them go and find their own territory! True of coyotes and wolves too.

    • @ghz24
      @ghz24 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@pong9000 So true they even tried to tame a bunch of wolf pups with volunteer families to raise the pups, none were tame at adulthood.

    • @cincin4515
      @cincin4515 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely. Then to realise they can be trained for hunting, serve as a really great blanket and chase off rats and other pilferers would be like the ultimate all rounder.

  • @burtvincent1278
    @burtvincent1278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Watching the symbiotic relationship between Grizzly Bears and wolves that recently developed in Yellowstone I would believe that same relationship with humans is how dogs came to be.

    • @TheRst2001
      @TheRst2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      There are many instances of different animals, mammals , fish , birds etc having symbiotic relationships. Its a tough world out there. Bear and wolf is a good combo 🙂

    • @LuxisAlukard
      @LuxisAlukard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      If bears and wolves learn to coexist and communicate - humans are doomes

    • @scooterdogg7580
      @scooterdogg7580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wait until a large pack starts killing bear cubs

    • @UteChewb
      @UteChewb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      In the Australian town of Eden, humans and killer whales cooperated to hunt baleen whales for decades. And there are plenty of other stories like that around the world. Different species can cooperate, especially if they are smart enough so that they can bypass genetic evolution. I have no doubt that the domestication of dogs was a very complicated thing which varied from place to place and over time. I remember one researcher saying that because humans and dogs complement each other together they are a much more powerful hunting team than either wolves or humans. The combo makes us super-predators.

    • @michaeleager4635
      @michaeleager4635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@UteChewb true. Humans when they had spears/ pointed sticks would be effective at finishing prey that was driven towards them. This maybe happened accidentally a few times before a pack thought " that's a good way to kill animals without running twenty miles"

  • @hallamhal
    @hallamhal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Typical Germanics with their typical Germanic words, like mutual, symbiotic and hypothesis!

    • @suguspjr
      @suguspjr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      These are Latin and Greek words

    • @joaomt3123
      @joaomt3123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@suguspjr yeah, that's the joke

    • @ronjayrose9706
      @ronjayrose9706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And Canine and Luna good, ol Germanic words

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Haha! I was mostly saying it in response to me speaking English in general, as the sentence is still technically spoken in English. But omg this is the funniest call out ever and I respect it so much.

    • @jacksonp2397
      @jacksonp2397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@davidianhowe Wait ur the guy

  • @zeideerskine3462
    @zeideerskine3462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Another theory is that one day a human was experimenting with boomerang making and a wolf always caught the thing in the air and brought it back. The wolf got addicted to playing fetch and got his/her whole pack to join in the fun. While the man never managed to build the boomerang, he got himself a pack of hunting buddies for much bigger game than birds.

  • @Zebred2001
    @Zebred2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Years ago when I worked on a ranch in south-central B.C. moving irrigation lines I came upon a young coyote laying in the crop. I though something was wrong with him at first because he didn't try to get away but otherwise he looked healthy. After a while I knelt down and carefully began petting him. He was fine.

    • @gyorkshire257
      @gyorkshire257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      And that's how covid started. Thanks mate.

    • @brunopimenta8204
      @brunopimenta8204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@gyorkshire257 Meanwhile CCP picks up this comment to show how covid started in America.

    • @jorge3234
      @jorge3234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@gyorkshire257 you could have been the person that domesticated the first coyote

    • @trashpanda9380
      @trashpanda9380 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Warning. Coyote packs hunt by sending a smaller and weaker coyote forward first to scout out prey. The prey will approach the weaker coyote for whatever reason, then the coyote scout will let out a signal to the rest of the pack, telling them to surround the prey and attack. A man I know was ripped off his tractor and lost his entire leg to a pack of coyotes using this method, and a pack of coyotes tried to attack my dog once. Thankfully, my dog was inside an enclosed fence and the coyotes couldn't get to her, but they were trying their hardest to find a way in.

  • @iainhansen1047
    @iainhansen1047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    “Especially when your speaking that Germanic garbage”
    Dam English just got roasted

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Glad someone else appreciated that hahaha

    • @iainhansen1047
      @iainhansen1047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@davidianhowe ya man, after watching this video I watched nearly all of your videos and subscribed, your pretty good.

    • @moritamikamikara3879
      @moritamikamikara3879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      GET OUT LATINS REEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iainhansen1047 means a lot! Thanks!!!

    • @j.samuelwaters81
      @j.samuelwaters81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "How do you know what 'Germanic' means, but not 'dog'!?" 😂😂😂

  • @scragglybeard9322
    @scragglybeard9322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Damn he tricked me with the spoon for a second!

  • @StefanMilo
    @StefanMilo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Thanks David for this fascinating break down of cats!
    Check out more of David's stuff here!
    instagram.com/ethnocynology/
    th-cam.com/users/DavidIanHowe
    A life in ruins podcast:
    www.archaeologypodcastnetwork...

    • @Dog_One
      @Dog_One 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The like for his channel doesn't work for me

    • @pridefulobserver3807
      @pridefulobserver3807 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the link to the channel has a problem, it does not work for me either

    • @tsopmocful1958
      @tsopmocful1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The link is down.

    • @dopeyfx1783
      @dopeyfx1783 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...yeh cats...right...yeh...

  • @wickedsamurai3323
    @wickedsamurai3323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    friendship ended with stefan. now david is my best friend

    • @user-mm5jp4yz4q
      @user-mm5jp4yz4q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Some centuries later, a great-grand child of David's will use a finger-tip bone found from a cave to demonstrate to the future generation that Stefan once really did exist...

    • @user-mm5jp4yz4q
      @user-mm5jp4yz4q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or, maybe we should call it Stefanova...

    • @howardchambers9679
      @howardchambers9679 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had a wife like you. Faithless friend

    • @11moonshot
      @11moonshot ปีที่แล้ว

      oh no!!!

  • @tortron
    @tortron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Here's my theory I just came up with. As a coming of age RITUAL, the young hunter had to prove he was better than the greatest hunter of all, the Wolf. You sneak into a wolf den, steal a puppy, come back a man and less a finger.

    • @justsomenuts
      @justsomenuts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      cool story

    • @thedwightguy
      @thedwightguy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In Edmonton we'd hand catch ground squirrels and get our fingers all bit up, in Grade 4. I caught a coyote pup. Have the scar above my eye to prove it. Kids back then??? uh, no TV so.........

  • @niallwildwoode7373
    @niallwildwoode7373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Totally brilliant! If anyone taught history in schools like this, kids would come out with top grades.

  • @AnastasiaPlantlegs
    @AnastasiaPlantlegs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    this editing is so immersive. Thanks for introducing this guy to the channel Stefan!!! and great job David!

    • @BehindtheTrowel
      @BehindtheTrowel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're both awesome. I interviewed David yesterday. Check it out on my channel 🤠👷🏽‍♀️

    • @AnastasiaPlantlegs
      @AnastasiaPlantlegs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BehindtheTrowel i love the shameless promo, I’ll check you out for sure :D

  • @valeriavagapova
    @valeriavagapova 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    ...It was only when he switched to the cave that I realised I saw his TH-cam before. lol
    That Russian was actually pretty good :))

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Omg I thought it might get a lot of flack haha

    • @valeriavagapova
      @valeriavagapova 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@davidianhowe I'm Russian and it made me smile tbh, you're good:) "Na zdorovie" doesn't actually mean "cheers" in Russian though (that's a Polish thing), but it's such a common misconception at this point that it's to be expected lol! It was cute.
      It was a great video, and love your content overall! Молодец:))

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@valeriavagapova haha! the funny thing is, I had originally said it the polish way in the video. And then my friend told me how to say it the russian way. So i tried to dub it over (you can hear the dub). But I STILL said is the polish way hahahaha Spaciba!

    • @orzelmorze5586
      @orzelmorze5586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@valeriavagapova Yes, he said it in Polish-Czech way - „na zdrovie” / „na zdrowie”.
      I'm Polish, but I know Russian and I instantly heard that it is in Polish way and not in Russian.
      Isn't Russian „na zdoravie” since accent transforms O into A?

    • @valeriavagapova
      @valeriavagapova 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@orzelmorze5586 I think the pronunciation was close enough to the Russian phrase "На здоровье", but the problem is this phrase is not used as "cheers" in Russian lol! It usually means "you're welcome", like "Spasibo" - "Na zdorovie". We never sit down to drink and say "Na zdorovie" :) I think this phrase was picked up by the Western media from Polish/Czech at some point, and then conflated with Russian because, y'know, Slavic is apparently synonymous with Russian in a lot of Western media for some reason... Anyway, it's interesting how little old misconceptions/misunderstandings like this get so ingrained in the culture and the minds that they become such a meme despite being technically inaccurate:)

  • @z1az285
    @z1az285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The frozen puppy found in Siberia was absolutely incredible and was the closest evidence of a domesticated animal that was still wolf like.

  • @anthropomorphicmonster9113
    @anthropomorphicmonster9113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just imagine how amazing it must've felt to be a human at the time of early dog domestication, being able to interact with a wild animal that has been so aggressive and weary about you in the past and now it's wagging It's tail and almost smiling at you as run your hands through it's fur. An unexpected pleasant connection between you and the strange wild world around you.

    • @larrydaniels6532
      @larrydaniels6532 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or to know what the power of food holds over every animal!

  • @ExoticTerrain
    @ExoticTerrain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    I like this guy, I’ll have to check out his channel.

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Means a lot!

    • @seanhaarhoff3726
      @seanhaarhoff3726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He is excellent

    • @AmadonFaul
      @AmadonFaul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same

    • @Primarch359
      @Primarch359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He also got a shout-out for his help with PBS Eons' dog domestication video

    • @crowdsourcedlife
      @crowdsourcedlife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidianhowe Subscribed! I lol'd. Real lol's, not the fake ones I use as a general use punctuation in texts

  • @FilosSofo
    @FilosSofo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "that germanic garbage", lol, I'm dying.

  • @juanpascallucianobravado6112
    @juanpascallucianobravado6112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Hire this guy as a substitute teacher more often!

  • @mondianijoli9080
    @mondianijoli9080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    contrary to popular belief people didn't die at 30 or 40 ! Getting old, our long lifespans is what made us human. It's the grandmother hypothesis

    • @justsomenuts
      @justsomenuts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah, you only get a 30-40 year lifespan average if you include infant and child mortality rates. If you made it out of childhood you stood the chance of a decently long life.

    • @charlesaanonson3954
      @charlesaanonson3954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@justsomenuts A long time ago in Thailand, they did not even count you as being born until you were eight years old because of the high infant fatality rate.

    • @aidanhardy5215
      @aidanhardy5215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This guy says he's an anthropologist. I learned in this in my intro to anthro class in 1st year.

    • @lycaonpictus9662
      @lycaonpictus9662 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aidanhardy5215 He was just making a joke. I don't think that line was meant to be taken seriously.

    • @justsomenuts
      @justsomenuts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lycaonpictus9662 But in a video that's supposed to inform you, a joke with incorrect information (unless the point of it is that it's incorrect) is pretty dumb.

  • @ttun100
    @ttun100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I kind of go for they found out we had couches theory.

  • @nicholasalexander9104
    @nicholasalexander9104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Always love ur video's Stephen but ur buddy is HILARIOUS, and conveys the facts and relative info with ease thru his comedic style

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I really appreciate it!!

    • @BehindtheTrowel
      @BehindtheTrowel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha They're both awesome. I interviewed David yesterday. Check it out on my channel 🤠👷🏽‍♀️

  • @Neilhuny
    @Neilhuny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The BBC did a program about the same subject a few years back (15 or 20?) including most of these hypotheses, They added another - all too graphically - that dogs have long been used to clear up the poop of babies and toddlers in the ancient past - pre-Pampers. They showed the "method" is in use today in an African village where a mother was holding a baby when it pooped, she whistled and the apparently sleepy dog knew exactly what was on offer and was very keen to have a free meal! Not pleasant to see, but practical. I think they argued that this function came before other uses were made of dogs - like hunting and herding animals. Human poop brought wolves close in to the human camps/villages

    • @crow1066
      @crow1066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I knew a dog that would do this if he got the chance....gross.

    • @lexprontera8325
      @lexprontera8325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh man, thank you for that mental image, it made me cringe so bad.
      Anyway, have this thumb up because I learned something today.
      Yuck!

  • @evanz2704
    @evanz2704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I imagine our ancestors tried to score bragging rights even back then. Let's be honest, humans will be humans. I sure would try to "tame" one of those beasts of the wilds to show off my power.

  • @moodist1er
    @moodist1er 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This guy just pulled a cave out of a portal

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don’t do drugs

    • @charleshash4919
      @charleshash4919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was a mushroom portal, & he was not micro-dosing

  • @mary9983
    @mary9983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This dude is fantastic, Stefan. Thanks for introducing him to us!

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! More on my channel

  • @Davey-Boyd
    @Davey-Boyd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That was fun, loved it! Gonna check out more of this guy. I was really confused when he first appeared with the spoon though!!!!

    • @BehindtheTrowel
      @BehindtheTrowel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha! They're both awesome. I interviewed David yesterday. Check it out on my channel 🤠👷🏽‍♀️

  • @PoeLemic
    @PoeLemic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was an incredible episode. My wife and I watched it like 3 times (maybe 4 times). But, she kept falling asleep after long day, so I watched it in full each time. Do more on this topic.

  • @kaarlimakela3413
    @kaarlimakela3413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I often think of the foxes in Russia, the experiment that revealed the animals that are bred to favor friendliness begin to look very different in fur coloration in just a few generations.

  • @TommoCarroll
    @TommoCarroll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Yes! I knew as soon as I saw this title it was going to be David! SWEET!

  • @FilosSofo
    @FilosSofo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "I make domestic fox, what else you need to know?" -> hahaha

  • @trevorrex7210
    @trevorrex7210 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I vaguely remember hearing about the fox cage test back in middle school. To be quite honest, I didn't pay enough attention when this was going on, so I have no clue as to what was being discussed until now, so thank you for making this video.

  • @Ateesh6782
    @Ateesh6782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is very, very well done with the unexpected changes in style, the linguistics references, the bong, made me smile a lot. Thanks! :)

  • @Shirokroete
    @Shirokroete 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was the fastest I subscribed to someone else's channel.
    What a guy.

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

    • @BehindtheTrowel
      @BehindtheTrowel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're both awesome. I interviewed David yesterday. Check it out on my channel 🤠👷🏽‍♀️

  • @nobody8328
    @nobody8328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The caveman with the gauged ears is a nice touch 😉
    I was waiting for a shih-tzu to show up after 'the summoning'.

    • @BassGoThump
      @BassGoThump 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cave man might not have been as happy to see that

  • @justarandomname420
    @justarandomname420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dogs make people better.

  • @DavidFraser007
    @DavidFraser007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I personally like the finding cute puppies on a hunting trip theory, and taking them home for the kids.

  • @iliyaDZ
    @iliyaDZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Your video started pretty cheesy with a list of hypotheses, but then it got really good, culminating with the "Joe Rogan mushroom portal" which got me laughing. I'll be checking your stuff

  • @blenderboi1668
    @blenderboi1668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i think you did a great job filling in for Stefan, I'd love to see you guys do a few more collab vids!

  • @perceivedvelocity9914
    @perceivedvelocity9914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Interesting video. Keeping wild wolves in your camp for future use sounds insane to me. That theory seems the most far fetched to me.

  • @pridefulobserver3807
    @pridefulobserver3807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:48 oh MY GOOOODD !!! The empire earth elephant dead sound!! , i got the craving for that good ol game now

  • @tylers.2596
    @tylers.2596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    First couple of seconds I was thinking what happened to Stefan... 😅

    • @user-mm5jp4yz4q
      @user-mm5jp4yz4q 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A disastrously-planned wroing-way trip to Haiti or something....

  • @DoctorProfessorPablo
    @DoctorProfessorPablo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    We need more David on this channel!

  • @pirbird14
    @pirbird14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing I remember from Leakey's "People of the Lake", is a discussion of a site suggesting that canines and hominids had shared the remains of a kill leftover from some larger predator. Humans are not very good hunters, as we simply can't hold our own in a one on one fight with most animals. One study of a modern hunter gatherer group showed that big game hunts were successfull only 6% of the time. Humans would certainly do their best to scavenge from more successfull predators. If canids were doing the same thing, it's possible that hominids and canids could become accustomed to each other over time.
    You have to wonder what advantage would be afforded to each group by closeness to the other. Humans would soon realize that the canids keener hearing meant they would sense predators sooner than humans could. There is at least one video on TH-cam showing an African tribe that keeps dogs solely as watch dogs - no hunting, no packing of supplies, no fighting the humans' enemies.
    Since Farley Mowatt (Never Cry Wolf) showed that humans and wolves could successfully subsist on nothing but mice, I've wondered how much of their diet is obtained from larger prey.

    • @larrydaniels6532
      @larrydaniels6532 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are wrong in your assumptions, man was a superior hunter, we started making tools that allowed for the killing of animals that man could never dispatch without. No animal in the trees, in the seas or on land could feel safe when man was present! You MUST be STUPID! Look at the size of whales that man brought to shore with a kayak!

  • @11moonshot
    @11moonshot ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey! What a clever way to explain science in an extremely well made, entertaining way! Congrats! You are one guy I'd like to meet in person! greetings from Germany . I loved every minute of your story!! Michael, Dresden

  • @reginaromsey
    @reginaromsey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love the narrator that Stephan chose! As a fan of small, sharp toothed, little predators (cats). Puppies are so lovable with their big eyes. Even Wolf Cubs are cute. They make good pets until adulthood!

  • @katipohl2431
    @katipohl2431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video to be shared with my friends who love dogs. A cold night in Australia is called a three dog night when dingo-doggos keep your body warm.
    Subscribed to him.

  • @grantlawler8106
    @grantlawler8106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great choice having him help on this Stefan! He’s amazing!

  • @phillurtuo745
    @phillurtuo745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I couldn't imagine a better stand in for Stefan

  • @rubenskiii
    @rubenskiii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    _David Ian "Howling" Howe_
    This is his name from now on. No discussion.

  • @siphotheguy1870
    @siphotheguy1870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like to learn more about how humans and their pet rocks evolved together over time.

  • @DadMaster
    @DadMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great video. Really well done and that David guy is a trip. Going to follow him now. Thanks Stefan!

    • @BehindtheTrowel
      @BehindtheTrowel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're both awesome. I interviewed David yesterday. Check it out on my channel 🤠👷🏽‍♀️

    • @DadMaster
      @DadMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BehindtheTrowel will do!

  • @jancejancejance
    @jancejancejance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved this video's tone and delivery. I subscribed to your channel David. That logo you have beautifully illustrates the ancient connection between dogs and humans. Which you seem to be quite expert at.

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm no expert, I just like dogs! And thank you!!

  • @barneyrubble4293
    @barneyrubble4293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    If Humanity has done anything right or good, it was the creation of the dog.

    • @user-mm5jp4yz4q
      @user-mm5jp4yz4q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You got my dogs' votes! This campaign slogan is a little bit too long but at least you know from your first glance it's not sponsored by some sort of deep-states dogfood seller...Better than the pony-soldier one...

  • @robharwood3538
    @robharwood3538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So, like, it's literally a case of the 'underdog' winning in the long run??? 🐶💖🥺 Awww!

  • @Erinselysion
    @Erinselysion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super fun video! Just like there's innumerable things to discuss on the topic, I think human interest in our shared history with wolves/dogs will always be present. I'm excited to check out more of David's videos!

  • @jfiery
    @jfiery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, nice hosting job. Great video. Finding a pup or two and raising after the death of a mother many times may have been the start of of the less fearful wolves is my favorite theory. But it's all of them.

  • @AndrewBeals
    @AndrewBeals 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Feed scraps to wolves that you keep tied up at your camp, and when times get tough... You have stored food nearby and a nice warm coat in the bargain.

  • @elifaletgutierrez9141
    @elifaletgutierrez9141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "...we don't even see our own grey hair." hahahaha

  • @beekage
    @beekage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy needs to write a book on dog anthropology. What an awesome field!

  • @marsoz_
    @marsoz_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The vast majority of crossovers I see on TH-cam at the best of times do nothing for me but this dude rocks

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Respect. Thanks dude.

  • @marktwist1495
    @marktwist1495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Liking the John Belushi dogman.

  • @Jidosh
    @Jidosh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    God, that guy is hilarious. I subscribed before the 5 min mark.

  • @KatherineUribe-1
    @KatherineUribe-1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That painting of the bison looking at the people in wolf skin slayed me! The look on the bison's face....😲! 🤣🤣🤣
    P.S. Great video! Wonderfully crafted and entertaining. 👍🏻😊

  • @TheWuschi
    @TheWuschi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was funny and educative and interesting, the way I love all the contents of this channel. - And now I'm rushing over to David's, scratching on the door and demanding to be let in to subscribe! ;-))

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to my insanity.

    • @TheWuschi
      @TheWuschi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidianhowe (*wagging tail*) Whuff!!

  • @sashka222
    @sashka222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have to say that this guy was quite respectfully offensive with his Russian. He even got some pronunciation right!

  • @RufusDinaricus
    @RufusDinaricus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Одличан видео Стефане, хвала теби и другару на уложеном труду. Велики поздрав.

    • @andrejm77
      @andrejm77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jel mislis da Stefan zna cirilicu, nisam siguran da uopste razume srpski. Ipak je on unuk emigranta, mislim da mu je i otac rodjen u Engleskoj..

    • @RufusDinaricus
      @RufusDinaricus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@andrejm77 Мислим да је образован човек и да је могуће. Све и да не зна, Гугл све зна. :)

    • @andrejm77
      @andrejm77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RufusDinaricus
      Slazem se. U svakom slucaju sjajan je tip, lepo je videti zemljaka koji prati njegov kanal! Sve najbolje i pozdrav!

    • @RufusDinaricus
      @RufusDinaricus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrejm77 Исто тако, поздрав Андреја!

  • @Slatorade9000
    @Slatorade9000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to hear more content about dogs and ancient dogs! Dog burials especially.

  • @5610winston
    @5610winston ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:30 I thought about my Norwegian Elkhound that scarfed the shrimp I was getting ready to cook, or the one who nabbed a pork chop off the breeder's kitchen counter when I had her in to board, or Baldurdash who stands on the Bosch dishwasher door while giving the plates a Viking pre-rinse.
    5:15 Scratch a dog and you've got a job for life.

    • @larrydaniels6532
      @larrydaniels6532 ปีที่แล้ว

      When one considers how an Elkhound performed in the wild to get his name, then a theft is so much easier and less dangerous to this brave little doggy, that he HAD to do it.

  • @andrejm77
    @andrejm77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In the remains of south central Europe neolithic settlments most of animal bones found there were from dogs. That brings human love for canines to a hole new level :)

    • @LuxisAlukard
      @LuxisAlukard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where dogs eaten?

    • @andrejm77
      @andrejm77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LuxisAlukard Yes they were, everywhere actually. I was referring to Vinča or Danube civilisation/culture.
      Atleast 10% of modern humans still don't have a problem with it :)

    • @LuxisAlukard
      @LuxisAlukard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrejm77 Really? I didn't know that. Zanimljiva informacija =D

  • @TSmith-yy3cc
    @TSmith-yy3cc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel like this guy has already sold out to big anthropology... Flaunting his lack of spoon like some kind of big-shot...

  • @jacksonp2397
    @jacksonp2397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry, a Joe Rogan Mushroom Portal??? IM DYING

  • @caelan6567
    @caelan6567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Would be cool to see what David and Stefan have to say about "Dogor" the Ice age puppy thought to be 18,000 years old?

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      See the PBS Eons video I worked on!

  • @MarcusAgrippa390
    @MarcusAgrippa390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You should give Stephan some interior decorating ideas....
    He really needs all the help he can get.
    P.S.
    The Russian was funny as hell

  • @karlburkhalter1502
    @karlburkhalter1502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Cats and Hyena were our mutual enemies.

    • @brunopimenta8204
      @brunopimenta8204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well small cats might not have been that much of a threat to people, they were wild cats, so they were agressive to us but like, we are talking about a 5kg, 11pounds fluffy beast that just came around the village to eat some rats and bones.

    • @brunopimenta8204
      @brunopimenta8204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karlburkhalter1502 I'm talking about small wild cats, we never had any dominant position over such big predators as the saber-toothed tiger, it was actually the complete opposite.

    • @karlburkhalter1502
      @karlburkhalter1502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brunopimenta8204 Wolves and people formed an alliance against them.

    • @brunopimenta8204
      @brunopimenta8204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@karlburkhalter1502 That's right, we probably sleeped much better with a couple of dogs around us.

    • @lycaonpictus9662
      @lycaonpictus9662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hyenas probably weren't too much of an enemy.
      They are powerful hunters to be sure, but attacks on humans in Africa are relatively rare despite hyenas often living right along side people in rural communities. There is even some mad person in Ethiopia that feeds completely wild hyenas by hand in exchange for tips from tourists. So far he hasn't been eaten.
      If human bones show up in the archaeological record looking like a hyena had a go at it, scavengers would probably be the more likely source.
      Considering that their social structure and hunting strategies are very similar to wolves, like wolves they can be found scavenging on the edges of human settlements, and are not predisposed to prey on humans...I wonder if in alternate version of our world where wolves or other social canids didn't exist, if hyenas might have been the first animal to become domesticated instead.

  • @solarnaut
    @solarnaut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:53 ( slips glasses on ) " el professooooor is in Da House ! "
    THANKS for having so much fun with this beautiful topic ! B-)

  • @A.Hutler
    @A.Hutler 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I play soft, sweet music on my fiddle, my dogs will immediately calm down and become very docile. They curl up, lay down and relax. I know there has been research on this, but it is a magnificent wonder to see it happen. Music truly has an effect on dogs. It has the same calming effect on them as it does on humans when they hear a lullaby. If you play or sing music, try it on your dog and watch them enjoy it. It is one of my favorite activities. And it is a great bonding experience. Thanks for the video, guys.

  • @leanderfoster3465
    @leanderfoster3465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lmaooooo Ik this guy be hitting bong tokes LMAO

  • @teaser6089
    @teaser6089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Me after clicking this video:
    Who are you and what did you do with my boy Stefan :P

  • @naciremasti
    @naciremasti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing presentation, David.
    Thanks to Stefan for letting you do this, another instant classic.

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @naciremasti
      @naciremasti 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidianhowe question for you, I hear that term 'anatomically modern' humans alot...what does that mean exactly? Are their anatomically ancient homo sapiens that evolved into modern? Or?

    • @davidianhowe
      @davidianhowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@naciremasti It's a long answer. But the short one would be that anatomically modern humans left Africa and established populations in eurasia and asia, and then behaviorally modern humans (humans that are behaviorally and culturally us) came later and fully replaced them or evolved into them over time through the spread of complex upper paleolithic culture. I'm no paleoanth, I could be watering that down so much it's wrong, but that's the gist. We are behaviorally modern, whereas ancient humans were anatomically.

  • @samsquanch5916
    @samsquanch5916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved it guys, This guy is the archeologic version of Jack Black crossed with Zack Galakanopis (sp I know whatever) - and its awesome.

  • @TreforTreforgan
    @TreforTreforgan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You’re not Stefan Milo. YOU’RE NOT STEFAN MILO!!

    • @user-mm5jp4yz4q
      @user-mm5jp4yz4q 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Give Milo some enough time, this guy will be domesticated to at least make you think he resemble Milo...

    • @TreforTreforgan
      @TreforTreforgan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      王一王木木 ok. So long as he’s house/igloo/wigwam trained.

    • @user-mm5jp4yz4q
      @user-mm5jp4yz4q 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TreforTreforgan It's more or less like cave trained...

    • @TreforTreforgan
      @TreforTreforgan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      王一王木木 haha. I bet Stefan Milo has taken a few dumps in a cave or two!

    • @user-mm5jp4yz4q
      @user-mm5jp4yz4q 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TreforTreforgan I am after this Soviet Ghost guy. Theoretically and technically, he once raised funds to CPR things, and my father donated a lot. C: to Create pet-badgers; P: to Preserve northern white rhinoceros; and finally R: to Revive the woolly mammoth.
      It turned out to be a fraud, and after our donation to Yakutsk we do not have enough money to join the pyramid scheme which is the second best thing in the world ever happened to Albania, next to the Voldemort.

  • @tobylangdale95
    @tobylangdale95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "If you didn't kill an animal immediately, you had to track it's blood trail"..... or get the hell away from a wounded and enraged rhino or mammoth!

  • @DipityS
    @DipityS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, that was absolutely fascinating, thank you. I will definitely subscribe to your channel and subscribe to this one if this is the sort of content you're both putting out. I've wondered about this topic and I had a theory, or at least an idea - but it was that last one you weren't keen on and I called it the 'Don't tell me puppies weren't a thing back then, humans are humans and puppies are puppies - so someone had to have taken one home over a million years' or for short 'Puppies are cuties' Theory.

    • @larrydaniels6532
      @larrydaniels6532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course! All of the other theories are bogus, proto man was too smart to trust any adult wolf. You would end up with a stolen child in the middle of the night.

  • @randomcoyote8807
    @randomcoyote8807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ethnocynology. Had I but known, I could have spent my years on this Earth studying this marvelous, glorious thing. Oh, the time I have wasted.
    Guess I'll have to go home and play with my dog, and wonder what could have been.

  • @hanschitzlinger3676
    @hanschitzlinger3676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s a mix between the flight distance hypotheses and the Pinocchio hypothesis
    A lot of people don’t realize how often you come across young animals in the woods. I’ve found/caught baby opossums, skunks, squirrels, raccoons, roadrunners, rabbits, pigs, fawns, fox, and coyote pups. They just leave them laying around. You don’t have to raid a den, especially after they partially domesticated themselves and stay in close proximity

  • @mariamiakobidze9762
    @mariamiakobidze9762 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    really enjoyed this video, fun and interesting

  • @fernandodoria8717
    @fernandodoria8717 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember a few months ago, hearing on the radio that archaeologist believe they found the remains of the first domesticated dogs in Europe, about 10,000 yrs old, in a dig from southern Italy. They believed the dogs may have been used for sheep hearding.

  • @TheWindyweather
    @TheWindyweather 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved it. Minor continuity glitch tho. Caveman started wearing glasses when dog shows up . LOL