Carragher & Neville share their honest thoughts on the sale of Chelsea
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On Monday Night Football, Jamie Carragher & Gary Neville discuss the sale of Chelsea and what implications are there for having state-owned clubs.
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When Jamie and Gary agree on something you know something is terribly wrong
Facts
When they agree is only when its not about their club
These two define what football is, the are brilliant, I think you are a Chelsea fan and you are just angry
@@arthurchakanyuka496 ???
Jamie never managed anywhere so he can keep running his mouth thinking he is doing something good .... tho go bringing down owners of club from foreign countries just because they heard something..... The English Premier League is Pure politics I would rather proper pundits and journalist talk on that than rival players
UKs no.1 sales of 'defence' weapons and aircraft is Saudi Arabia.
And ?
Indeed but they people they “defend” are not white…
@@Sb-do6xc he saying the prem and gov are hypocritical
@@Sb-do6xc is it not obvious mate
@@Sb-do6xc Saudi Arabia is as bad or worse than Russia but because the UK makes money from Saudi Arabia, the Newcastle takeover is allowed but Abramovich can’t own Chelsea.
Excellent from Gary Neville. Admitted his past mistakes and articulated the situation as it is. Big respect.
All those applauding Gary Neville might want to remember that he has earned money from the Glazer regime during his playing career and from the likes of Rupert Murdoch in his role at Sky. His blindness to his own hypocrisy is staggering. I'm a United fan but I also supported my local teams as I've moved round the country over the years and I do believe smaller clubs need a voice but football is business. You can't agree with his disdain for Chelsea but then shop at Tesco, fill your car at Esso, buy your furniture from IKEA etc etc when these big companies ruthlessly swallowed up independent businesses and corner shops. The elite PL clubs are greedy monopolists but you can't sit there bleating that on a network like Sky TV. Blatant hypocrisy, from which he's made millions!
True. Needs to stop doing it though and call things out before hand giving his position as well as experience
these 3 all work for Sky who make money from broadcasting F1 and Boxing from Saudi Arabia are they going to look for a new employer ?
@Buzzin Smaug49 I think everything is taken out of context, they talk about 81 executions at the weekend but do they know why these people were killed ? why arent they asking all the American owners about some states in the USA still have the death penalty ?
@@RobertJones-xq1si he also is clearly practicing for his political career. KEEP IT OUT or we might end up with fans being bombed at matches because people like Gary Neville believe their own dribble.
Gary Neville's greatest commentary - man enough to admit he might have been wrong, honest enough to acknowledge that football is at a crossroads, and humble enough to not proselytize a one size fits all solution.
Good comment, and i agree 100%.
he wants to be a politician though...he speaks well...I'll give him that. But if you can't see the dangers of the things he's saying on a football review show then you very naive indeed.
British hypocrisy at it's best, everyone was quiet when you guys were killing ppl in the Middle East, based on lies
He’s just jumping onto a easier ride. How dumb can anyone be to not call out the Saudis after they hacked up Khashoggi… it’s only now Neville sees the light. Lol
@@whitedsepuchre1326 he's on a football punditry show. Using football's platform to talk about politics. That's really bad.
Thomas tuchel has been class through out this and will stick by Chelsea for the foreseeable future. He doesn't seem like the type to jump ship so soon, especially as he's already made himself a legacy at Chelsea.
Surely he wouldn’t turn down United
@@JJJJ-fi9dg yes he would look at united struggling to get into top 4
@@wilsoneyong1016 he took over from Chelsea when they were 9th. But he won’t go to United.
@@wilsoneyong1016 tuchel’s choice: go to the biggest club in English football with aspirations of winning the league. OR stay at a club that can’t make any transfers under constant scrutiny
@@JJJJ-fi9dg yes he would turn them down state of that club hes staying at Chelsea
If they don't allow Chelsea to get Saudi owners then take away Newcastle and man City ownership too. These double standards must stop.
As they should!
They’d have to get tested for sure, proper reviewing obviously wasn’t done by higher ups in the PL when these owners came in. Which is funny because there was quite a lot of uproar at Newcastle’s takeover and wasn’t allowed at first a few years ago
Haha ill cry laughing if they refuse, relegation coming soon rip chelsea 2004 - 2022
Who remembers the baseball ground?
many economists could argue that any profits made from capitalism are ill gotten gains from exploitation of the lower classes, low wages and slave labour from overseas.
I'm beginning to respect Gary again for at least acknowledging what was obviously voluntary ignorance around serious political matters, in exchange for the money brought into his community and a ball game.
these 3 all work for Sky who make money from broadcasting F1 and Boxing from Saudi Arabia are they going to look for a new employer ?
It's good that his thoughts have progressed, but it's going to blow his mind when he realises how much further his train of thought could go - that sport is just the tip of the iceberg. That the likes of the Saudi PIF and the UAE equivalent own significant holdings in companies that touch every single part of his life - power, fuel, food, energy, transport, manufacturers, hotels, entertainment, technology, raw materials, etc, etc, etc, all on the list of significant directly owned shareholdings. Then they also invest in investment firms like Berkshire Hathaway, which in turn invest in even more companies, and banks like Citi which trade in other company's shares too.
Eventually he'll realise there's a fair chance that these Sovereign Wealth Funds are (one or two levels removed perhaps, so opaquely) investing in, so owning a part of, Sky Sports. Not sure what his response to that would be, resigning maybe, but probably not tbh. I'd guess he just carries on with his life like everyone else, because it's actually pretty much impossible to even understand how far the tentacles of these Wealth Funds are spread, never mind attempting to exist without consuming stuff from any of the companies they are significantly invested in - which anyone can google if they wanted to take a stand, but I have never come across a single person who even suggests they do.
This has to be Neville's greatest commentary yet, a completely nuanced take on a very culturally, politically and ethically grey area. This wasn't an easy black and white situation and he handed it really well. Respect.
Hundred percent 💯
I also think so.
Funny you said that I was listening thinking my feelings about this guy is changing by the second.
@@petemayes1940 your getting feelings listening to neville haha
Don’t be so naive.
Honestly as a Chelsea fan I agree the situation with Russia has put things in an awkward position as regards to who can own/buy clubs . If we actually look at the amount of money being injected into football the laws like FFP have constantly failed to keep things like this in check . I just hope a good solution can be found . I miss when my biggest problem as a fan was what to do with Lukaku 😂😂
A Chelsea Fan With A Real Madrid Picture, 😂😂
I love Hazard bro
@@benthompson8256 hazard is our legend
makes sense
This guy jamie needs to open a university..
We're just gunna apparently forget about the UAE outrage with Newcastle now we need their oil lol and that Russia are the baddies - but Neville is spot on here and I feel sorry for you guys. Dirty money everywhere... Fair play to Neville as well for calling out the UAE where Boris is trying to cosy up to them.
Carragher: Chelsea has been taking advantage of its rivals
Bayern Munich: *sweating intensifies*
😂
@St. Elmo Patron Saint of Doritos stop the cap .
@@boysinblue2570 No cap, Robinho literally didn't have a clue he had joined city
@@freear42 chelsea were more recognizable than Mancity before their respective take overs so the comparisons are flawed
@St. Elmo Patron Saint of Doritos Ashley Cole moved after we had won the league two years in a row. He could see that we were going to win a lot more trophies in the next 10 years. Had he stayed at Arsenal, he wouldn't have won another league title, multiple FA Cups, a Champions League and a Europa League. The money was a major factor, for sure, but not the only one.
I respect Gary Neville a lot for admitting he was wrong in his previous stance.
This is also a really good piece of television: good questions, thoughtful answers, excellent points etc.
The carnival with Roy Keane trying to out do himself every week, and Micah Richards laughing hysterically, is entertaining, to be sure, but stuff like this is also needed.
roy keane is usually bang on with analysis when its not united imo
@@armanvranka7520 I agree, but the stuff about him not letting De Gea on the bus after the game, or punching him in the dressing room, is ridiculous. It's entertaining, but carnival stuff. Not serious.
these 3 all work for Sky who make money from broadcasting F1 and Boxing from Saudi Arabia are they going to look for a new employer ?
@@ThomasGMRossetti I mean de gea plays for united so he’s under the umbrella of “united” which I said keane is inappropriate about… but yes i agree those comments were out of order
I died when David said "a lot of it is opinion" 💀
Chelsea fan perhaps?
@@yinyang8259 ye maybe haha
nah, he’s sunderland. he’s actually one of the directors
If we aren't allowed saudi owners, the government needs to intervene and force Newcastle to change owners. Cant have these double standards placed on chelsea because all of a sudden, the premiere league and the government decided that they'll finally take the moral high ground instead of turning a blind eye.
yes 100%!! That would mean the end of oil money and therefore unlimited funds. Except for PSG but they keep bottling everything anyway hahaha
Man city too btw
That’s what Gary was trying to say with the introduction of a regulator but I agree it would be unfair to not allow Saudi owners chelsea for as long as Newcastle have theirs
Amen.
America are one of the worst war countries on planet earth. But they're ok!
Neville looks like the type of bloke that irons his socks
You seem like a bloke that would get off on smelling them 🤣
@@Shaggy-8392 lol this made me laugh
Gary Neville got it spot on 100%
these 3 all work for Sky who make money from broadcasting F1 and Boxing from Saudi Arabia are they going to look for a new employer ?
"Moral issues" For everyone's sake give up this sanctimonious act. The UK, US and NATO allies have done far worse in the past 20 years. Before you start judging other countries first call out your own leaders then maybe people outside the UK won't look at you as hypocrites.
Back to obscurity, which you probably don't remember because you only took an interest in Chelsea post abramovich
What has the governments of these countries got to do with the clubs ?
I agree with Carra's comments. Gerrard mentions it in his biography and goes in more detail of Chelsea's impact on the league, Wenger mentions the Ashley Cole situation in his biography. And even Patrick Barclay's biography on Jose Mourinho mentions the Sven incident. Roman completely changed Chelsea.
But to be fair, I think this is normal in football. Taking full advantage. Olympiacos have done this over the years in Greece, Bayern does this, Juventus got taken apart when relegated and took other players in the league when back on top, Real Madrid are renowned for this. That's just how it is. That's why it's the same group of clubs who tend to win the leagues and champions league. Very difficult to win the big prizes unless you're backed by very rich owners.
I don't think anyone can argue with why Chelsea went about their business in the way they did, think Carra's point is more to do with now they won't have that advantage their fans are going to have to get used to the other clubs taking advantage of the uncertainty around Chelsea
I agree with you mate ! This is normal in football! Everyone takes advantage of the smaller clubs! Manchester city is doing the same thing, Madrid , Barcelona etc ! This is football and these are mature footballers !
@@adamsharktv2915 exactly, they are basically saying exactly the same. This is football, and now Chelsea might be on the receiving end of it they can't complain. As its just football, when they were the richest they did it, and now it might be done to them. So Chelsea fans should stop complaining as if its really out of order if another club comes in and poaches their manager or their players
I agree this is just what happens in football, although all the clubs you have quoted are basically hated in their own leagues by anyone that doesn't support them for exactly this type of bullying behaviour
Exactly it’s normal for football. Liverpool did that with Southampton took their best players Mane, VVD.
Asking Carragher and Neville about geo-politics is like asking Harry Maguire about defending.
If you're going to state that. You need say what you think was wrong with the opinions given. I thought Gary gave a decent perpective on what is currently happening.
Neville would beat most of us in a debate on politics tbh
Comedy
Asking Carragher and Neville about hypocrisy and self awareness won’t butter any parsnips either.
Gary Neville is pretty well versed on politics all things considered. Think he said he will run for mayor of Manchester for labour right?
"We would be very unhappy working for an organisation that had money that wasn't particularly clean" Garry you work for Rupert Murdoch
Yeah but no one can really draw the line on what is clean and what is not isn’t it
the murdochs dont own sky anymore they sold it 2 years ago
No he doesn't. Get with the times
@@matthewoconnell330 lol put him in his place
Gary Neville would make a great politician. Talented speaker, forthright and speaks the truth.
And says he won't tell the truth about his friends when they're failing*
Lol good joke
"forthright and speaks the truth" that surely disqualifies him from being a politician !?
Gary "ABSolutely" Neville has been calling for an independent regulator I'll have you know
“Over the last 12-18 months”🤣🤣
Ha ha ha
At this moment in time.
Ultimately
Team Simon Jordan
Glad Gary recognised how naive he was to think we could “change” Saudi Arabia’s dismal record on human rights by allowing them to buy a British institution. Abramovich is an individual so his links to state policy are at least tenuous, but Newcastle, City and PSG are literally state owned.
Abramovich became rich via the Russian state, ie, Putin.
Abramovich was like the perfect bridge towards state owned football clubs tbh 😂😂
Mate let’s keep the politics and sports completely separated. It is a naive move from the government to target Chelsea fc . When Palestine was getting bombarded western countries banned anybody that showed remorse via t shirts !!. I love Ukraine stayed there for 2 years and I hope the wars stops ASAP , but hypocrisy and double standard behavior are manifested in our country
Britain's is going to change Saudi's "dismal record on human rights" when they've commited X10 worse things? Good one.
Well a Chinese energy company owns 10% of Chelsea and that energy company is of course owned by the Chinese government so yes Chelsea was part owned by a government.
I love how he says "destabilizing the club"... didn't know Chelsea are warlord's..
Finally, I have been waiting for this conversation from sky for 10 years
I heard Murdoch sold his part of Sky news. Thats why they`re finally are having a discussion on ethics.
@@yellyman5483 I think your Bob on the money here Yelly
Everyone who said 20 years ago when Abramovich waltzed in that football sold its soul were shouted down, mocked and derided as 'old-timers' and 'out of touch'. People only care about these "issues" when it suits their own interests, and nothing will change as people can be easily corrupted!
That's just not true though is it? Chelsea fans were ridiculed for having an owner that was injecting oil money into the game, was sportswashing and the fans were plastic or glory hunters. That only died down when City took the mantle and the attention shifted to them. Up until the Ukraine crisis they got the same stick. Most football fans have always stood fiercely against large injections of cash from wealthy individuals into the game. It was only ever the Chelsea and City fans who didn't care because it obviously benefitted them. Fans have always stood against it but the government has always ignored the criticisms because football has been a huge source of FDI for the UK in recent decades. Only now that they have to impose sanctions on Russian oligarchs are they paying attention to "oil/blood money" as a whole because the media has increased their scrutiny on it. Point is, stop being a victim saying you were in the minority against Abramovich. Most fans have always been against it but it took an important global political event to bring it under scrutiny.
because Blackburn had already started it with Jack Walker. Abrahomovic was the next natural step from Walker.
Allowing 'a friend' of Russia's president to buy and throw money into football club for sportswashing his allegiance to the Russia's supreme leader and politic is progressive they say. It's not about where the money came from it about the money getting into their bank account.
@@craigpedas2181 no that is a completely different scenario. Jack Walker bought Blackburn purely for the desire to see his team achieve something. He did inflate the market to some extent but you can't make a comparison.
@@Lorenzo8O1 I'm not even comparing them, I am saying that Walker started the ball rolling. It's not different in the context of this conversation at all though. He was the one who brought heavy investment and the idea of buying the league. Their motives behind the heavy investment is completely irrelevant to the convo we are having. I support Rovers, mate. That was the snowball to start the whole thing. Quite simple. Not even a debatable point, really.
Carra: “my opinion”
Also Carra: “it’s a fact”
Yes his opinion is based on the facts he described about the sneaky Russian.
An opinion can have facts in it
An opinion cannot be fact tho…
Dominic 🏆🏆 no, but it should be based on facts and his is
@@WoodyVuko might want to check out a dictionary, mate
Gary spot on. it's always refreshing to hear honesty, especially when you've thought one way and then changed your mind due to circumstances. Certain politicians should take note.
Finally a healthy, meaningful, constructive, informative, civilized discussion!
I hope to see more discussions handled like this.
I agree.. Saudi Arabia thought they were going to clean up their dirty image by buying Newcastle. I`m glad it didn`t work that way.
None of the big clubs are owned by struggling people. All of them are owned by billionaires and we don’t know where any of these billionaires get their money or are tied up in.
👍👍
No one asks where you get your money from.
They just ask, 'do you have it?
@Gillie Monger teavh us about researchers.
@Gillie Monger maybe but how do you know none of those billionaires are attached to presidents the same way Putin is to Roman. Obviously not at the same level but in relation to paying for their presidential campaign and such.
yeh i was asking myself ,, is the amrican money oky but the saudies and the russian money are not oky loool ,, this is amazing ,, hypocrisy right left n center lol
Thomas Tuchel is one of the calmest managers ever to go.through something like.that and still stay so calm!
? He’s literally the only owner to go through that lol
Calm? He got stressed with reporters saying I don't know the answers
From PSG to chelsea. Tuchel can't seem to catch break with these human rights 😂😂
I think you mean Wayne Rooney derby are on the brink of going bust and he's still calm and getting on with his job.
I think any football club over a certain age should automatically be given a new Community Asset status which would mean that people or companies can only buy the Stewardship of a club but never truly own it. There would be a process for the local community and fans (and an independent regulator) to oust them when necessary. In addition to the fit & proper test, a code of conduct to follow with certain violations essentially costing them steward/ownership instantly and without recompense.
These club are institutions and not just like any other businesses. Their legal status needs to reflect this and also serve to keep their stewards in line.
Sky sports have now removed the part of the show the start where Jamie Carragher wrongly stated things about Chelsea Academy and in process disrespected the hardworking coaches and players of the academy and club. They have yet not clarified it yet publicly and Jamie Carragher has just apologised in a reply on Twitter. Wrong opinions were passed facts and this should not be it.
Carragher is entitled to his opinion and I say that as a Chelsea fan. But, who's to say that Tuchel wants to leave Chelsea. He's certainly hasn't indicated he wants to leave the blues, neither is he at the risk of being fired.
and why would he want to go to united? there are better options out there
He's not saying Tuchel would want to join united he's just saying that if united had any common sense they would try to do everything to try to get Tuchel which is testament to just how good Tuchel is and I'm saying this as a Liverpool fan
Carraghar is trying to create a story out of nothing. He is destabilizing the atmosphere at Chelsea with these stories and speculations that are not grounded in reality.
Cause Chelsea may run out of money to pay Tuchel salary soon. Think someone in his late 40s will work for free?
@@gabrielchan4420 that's not gonna happen tho, Chelsea are going to be sold in the next few weeks. The deadline for the bids is this Friday. And Chelsea are not a financially poor club. The salaries are not paid out of short term revenue I.e ticket sales on match days, or shirt sales etc. They season ticket holders have already paid for the tickets. Only 2 out of a billion sponsors have pulled out. Chelsea have these revenues. Only the credit line of Chelsea has been frozen by the bank. Not their whole bank account. And there are players on much higher salaries than Tuchel.
Gary Neville speaks very well here.
I love how everyone knows who he's on about when he said they 'tried to get thr best midfield player in Europe' 😏
Well they didn't go knocking on Liverpool's door for Danny Murphy did they
My question is, If RA had gone to say Liverpool instead of Chelsea at the time, would Carragher complained if he was able to win every trophy available? I don't think so
Of course not, carra is only crying because Chelsea almost got gerrard from Liverpool
“ human rights issues “ says the empire that colonized and terrorized the entire globe for centuries and still does 😂🤣
Everyone talks about Russia invading Ukraine but nobody wants to ask how England and America get their natural resources
You’re welcome?
There is no empire
there is no empire true but there was till a few decades ago, so, please read a bit of history and learn what it has done to the people it had enslaved. All the riches these so called western developed economies are enjoying were looted from those colonies while most of the looted are still struggling to find their way out it
agreed. they pick and choose their financial implications.
Maybe this will eventually help reduce silly high transfer amounts paid and wages making it a more level playing field i mean this is why clubs need high rolling owners in first place !!!⚽️⚽️⚽️
Have you not heard of financial fair play?
@@VORZERO City owners haven't.
Would be nice
@@abbas_ali neither have Derby or bury
@@VORZERO yeah good old FFP when city were meant to be kicked from UEFA comps due to breaking rules and it suddenly disappeared
Very interesting discussion. Thanks for giving these guys time to work through their thoughts, and extrapolate.
Following their argument, football managers in the future must posses a degree, in politics, knowledge in football, not the first requirement. We are entering the rabbit hole; blindfolded!
Absolutely bang on analysis from Gary
You’d be mad to think they will go bust, idk if they will consistently win trophies anymore though
Depends who comes in as new owner.
Any party looking to buy Chelsea is gonna have deep pockets.
Back to a regular club
@@HarryKanee if getting top 4 is regular, then bring it on.
@@bigc181 well yeah just like any of the top 6… look at arsenals owners they’re clear of imbamovic in wealth and yet they spend 5% of the money Roman spent on the club…
@@JamesHussain82 yeah no. That won't be enough for Chelsea. Top 4 isn't a trophy. I rather not be in top 4 consistently but get trophies than get in top 4 and be on a drought
Nev is right that football clearly can’t regulate itself. we have seen similar problems in the city of London, the media and the arms industry where ‘self regulation’ is a con. However, many so-called ‘independent’ regulators appointed by the state are not so independent at all. Just look at what’s happened to the BBC, equalities and human rights commission and many others which have been torified. How independent can a body be when it is set up by the same Tory party which depends on this dirty money? The issue runs much deeper than just premier league vs government regulation
Do you think USA money shouldn't be in football as they have death row?
Use the american sports model, create a private league that is regulated by a commisioner who basically does what all owners want and have parity rules like a salary cap, no transfers but trades and so on.
Not perfect but far better, but dear lord if english people bow down to some yankee way of doing things lol
@@stevengallagher635 this isn’t a valid argument. The Saudi state already own a football team. They are a totalitarian absolute monarchy who reign, rule, control and dictate. They are responsible for the laws in their country. The current American owners are regular citizens (albeit wealthy ones). They are not responsible for the implementation of the death penalty. They have nothing to do with it. If Joe Biden owned a football team or wanted to, then maybe there would be some validity to your argument.
@@christomo1076 Hmmm I was playing devils advocate. I don't have all the answers but I'm guessing not all Saudi owners of sports teams are making direct decisions on state rules and laws regarding executions as this is an embedded practice historically. Likewise, on the flipside, it could be said that the wealthy American owners of sports teams are sponsoring, donating or lobbying their government to shape political policy.
If I were Eddie Howe I'd continue to direct these questions to the door of the Premier league and let them sort out the mess they created. Totally disagree with Neville that Howe should answer anything in relation to Saudi money etc.
The UK regime has committed more human rights abuses then Russia
If Chelsea aren’t allowed to allow the Saudi Media Company to takeover, despite having the highest bid, due to ethical issues, City and Newcastle’s owners HAVE to be expelled. Pure discrimination otherwise.
Agree and especially if the UK government continues to buy oil and selling weapons to the Saudi Kingdom. In addition, the English National team can withdraw from the World Cup in Qatar.
@@Patrick15118 💯 Gov and FA/Prem need to draw a clear line. Not picking and choosing when to not tolerate societal and political injustice and when to ignore it.
“The prem need to draw a clear line” if they don’t allow the Saudis bid then that’s what they’re doing!! You silly...
And btw the government and fa didn’t pick and choose this!! It was chosen for them! It’s to stop world war 3! I’m losing lots of respect for Chelsea fans
@@toiletcomputer if they don’t allow the Saudi’s for Chelsea BUT allow City and Newcastle to continue being ran by them, they clearly are picking and choosing and not drawing a clear line. And how is sanctioning a man who was already in the process of selling the club, penalising supporters and everyday staff at Chelsea Football Club going to prevent WW3? No one deeply involved in the war will bat and eyelid at this.
do we agree with non-season ticket holder fans not being able to buy tickets though? that will only have a major affect on the fans and wont even bother Abramovich
fair to play to gary and Jamie for saying it how it is
Gary and Jamie clearly Love the Game and want to protect it. Remember how outraged they both were, about the Super League. God only knows where we would be if that had gone ahead. This is the perfect time for the Premiership to filter more Money into the Lower Leagues. Bury Fans have as much right to have their Club survive as any of the Big Teams.
these 3 all work for Sky who make money from broadcasting F1 and Boxing from Saudi Arabia are they going to look for a new employer ?
At least bring in a Chelsea FC legend too
I'm glad they don't. Imagine having an ex player as a pundit, constantly talking down your old club and its players. That's what United has to go through these days.
What difference would that make? Everything these guys are saying is absolutely on the money. No debate at all
During the 5 year run where Chelsea we the Youth FA Cup Champions, they used 102 players at u18 level (success is a collective effort). Almost half of those players joined aged 9 or younger and went right through the system. Several of them are reigning European Champions.
When they won in 2016, they did so with a starting 11 that included 8 players who joined at the youngest age group possible (plus 2 from U11's, 1 from U14) and were coached by someone who had done just that a decade earlier himself.
When they won in 2018 in record breaking fashion, they did so with a starting 11 including eight players who joined at the youngest possible age group (plus 3x U16) and were coached by a lifelong Chelsea fan and academy graduate who made 173 appearances for the club.
Of Course, Chelsea could've signed Jerome Sinclair, Caoimhin Kelleher, Rhian Brewster, Bobby Adekanye, Yan Chanda, Madger Gomes,, Pedro Chirivella, Rafa Camacho, Sergi Canos, Sheyi Ojo, and Liam Millar and more and won nothing. Who Knows? But of course there is a right way to things and a wrong way to do things. Liverpool should know after their temporary ban from signing academy players and 100,000 Fine after they were found guilty "tapping up a schoolboy from Stoke City".
Cry harder pal. Nothing before Abramovich and you'll be nothing again once that war criminal leaves. Mind you he's also your biggest legend
@@CoolDude-jp1kj Saudi's are coming mate, nothings changing. Chelsea stay on top 🤣🤣😭
@RolandDeschain "watch your forked tongue". Literally just stated facts 🤣
No matter how much they have an issue with 'new money' Chelsea and Man City for all their Political issues were the two clubs that stood against the Super League while the 'traditional' signed away their history by buying into it
Gary is spot on.
Some of those pondants and some government officials are salivating on the thoughts on how they can ripped the team apart. Most the European teams have blood money in their hands I just found it very hypocritical. Sanction the man, hire a caretaker, let the team be.
Isn’t that what’s happening? Once a buyer is found, Chelsea will be back.
these 3 all work for Sky who make money from broadcasting F1 and Boxing from Saudi Arabia are they going to look for a new employer ?
knowing how london works and who run it, they'll probs pocket that money between them.
Saying Eddie Howe should have to answer for the Saudis and that sports journalists should keep asking those questions is mind boggling
Man yours is the first comment saying this and I thought the comment section would be full of this question. Remember when sports and politics didn't mix and people were shouted down for mixing the two. Why is every single thing now political. What did Chelsea football club and it's owners have to do with the war in Ukraine and poor Eddie has nothing to do with the politics of the owners. So let's say when American start an other illegal war, will McDonald's close in my home town because of the shame f the war its country started. Nothing makes any sense and there is now were to hid from politics anymore, not even watching a game on a Sunday.
They do it to Tuchel every week.
@@tonymontana4143 agreed don’t know why. He gives the same answer everytime too
@@nevinjoseph841 Tuchel knows how to handle the media. They've never done it to Pep though...
If we are gonna start cancelling clubs because of where their money comes from then you may aswell cancel 99% of the primier league because all that money isn’t clean
lets start with the one the funding a war on innocent people first 😃
Oh here we go Chelsea being “cancelled”. What BOTH of these pundits are saying is football can’t be insulated from the rest of the world anymore. The excuse that well we only get money from them is pretty poor when you’re talking about regimes that oppress and exploit their own populations and engage in wars killing tens of thousands of innocent people. The employees of these clubs players and managers are in the public eye and absolutely should be asked questions about who’s paying them. A independent regulator in football is well overdue! For too long now shady owners and business people have been able to hide behind football and exploit the fans for their own gain! Whether that gain is financial or in reputation.
Liverpool money is earned by the club. Transfer budget 1/6th of human rights abusing FFP cheats city.
Carra and Neville are just so good, elevated punditry to a whole new level.
I hope you’re being sarcastic
Why does Gary Neville, list jack walker (a local businessman from Blackburn who bought Blackburn) with the owners of city, Chelsea etc? Is he not basically the jack walker of Salford
Naa he’s saying he hasn’t got a problem with owners basically buying the league
Because he was describing instances where there has been large injections of cash by new owners of PL clubs, which was the case when jack walker bought Blackburn. What’s him being a local businessman got to do with it?
Concur
@@greatestanalyser2354 always found this a touch disrespectful, money did help but squad still cost less than United.
He said he had no problem with people like walker
great comments. what neville says between 2:59 and 6:02 made me want to stand and cheer.
I have no issue with other clubs trying to take adavantage of Chelsea, everyone would do this.
I have an issue with how the UK gov is punishing the football club a lot more than Abramowitch himself!
Abramowich was literally in the process of selling the club, they could have just insured he doesnt get the money from the sale... They could control the major transactions of the club to ensure that the money doesnt end up with Abramowitch etc. Instead they prohibit the sale of the club and thus prohibit that the situation is getting resolved!
Do they honestly believe that selling tickets/jerseys is furthering Russias war effort?!
It's absolutly ridiculous that Boris Johnson is not able or willing to sanction Abramowitch without destroying one of the best clubs of his own country and the current european champions!
You have to understand sanction freezes everything, no way the government is gonna allow Roman to sell and just oversee the transaction, anything can happen without sanction, as a matter of fact, the government water-downed the sanction to reduce the disruption for Chelsea football club.
uk gov biggest thieves around
Problem is how does he not receive the money from the sale when it's his property. It's like telling somebody to sell their car because your mate got disallowed from driving but any money you get from selling it wont go to you
@@jackgavan4154 No, of course they cant force Abramowitch to sell the club but they can say We allow you to sell Chelsea if you dont take the money. Then it would be up to Abramowitch if he wants to that but at the moment he doesnt even have that option which is just stupid
Speaking about Chelsea and what’s happening with Chelsea half the program is them mentioning Newcastles owners you can’t make it up
So Chelsea bought all the success at youth level even though most of the players got scouted at age 9.
I'm guessing by your comment that the scouts, coaches and training facilities at Chelsea are free at youth level?
@Gillie Monger Lol go cry in a corner. Juventus signed Buffon for €51 million in 2001, how the hell can you blame Chelsea for the price inflation? Some of you are just so bitter when it comes to Chelsea because they ruined your childhood by beating your favourite team.
these 3 all work for Sky who make money from broadcasting F1 and Boxing from Saudi Arabia are they going to look for a new employer ?
@@tonymontana4143 I fail to see how pointing out 1 random signing in Serie A (which was the biggest league in the world at the time) by their biggest most successful team (success built up over decades not over night) invalidates any of the points made? Just seems like pure cope.
I love how the talks about us copying the German football system with Fan majority owned clubs a few months ago got shut down really quick. The Prem and the FA didn't want to lose their power and money 😂. It's no coincidence that the 3 best managers in the world right now have all come from the Bundesliga
@@webmart70 WRONG, HOWARD Wilkinson won the league with leeds exactaly 30 years ago, plus theres fergie whos scottish not exactly a foreign coach is he
@@Exalted_Wolfe fergies not english ..🙈..No English manager has won the prem for 30 years....I'm right I think you'll find.....
@@webmart70 hey Scottish so hes still not foreign is he, since scotland is part of the same country as england until it gets its independence wether it likes it or not scotland is ruled from london, and like i said earlier howard wilkinson also won it with leeds exactly 30 years ago who is english
@@Exalted_Wolfe independence? what the hell are you on about..??😆😂
@@webmart70 shows how clueless you really are, since scotland has been having votes for its independence for years now, now you cant vote for independence if your a separate country can you, you can only vote for it if your part of another country like scotland is, like i said early wether scots like it or not, scotland is still part of the uk and owned by england
Gary is 100% correct, also players are getting paid too much
respect where its due jamie and gary
Okay these 2 dont want Saudis to buy english clubs but they are okay with their american owners who are pushing the idea of Super league. Why are they not pushing Government for FSG and glazers to sell the clubs if they are so worried about their so called league.
These guys are pretty well informed and able to give solid arguments and raise important questions about all the shady financial issues and how this affects the PL.
Notice how Gary looks at Jamie after his 2:26 - 6:02 monologue like "You chump, you're not at my level."😂😂
As a Liverpool fan some do have issues with FSG they want them even after the success are model has had to spend like City
That’s true but at least it’s clean money. Their money comes from pure slavery in their own countries which means they can make billions by taking advantage of them.
@@benwilliams2328 FSG money isn't '100% clean', you do realise that right? Saudi money has the most blood on their hands but doesn't mean other owners aren't completely clean
@@jamestrainor4293 Go on then. Tell us how it's dirty.
@@jamestrainor4293 of course you could probably count the number of billionaires that got their money cleanly on your hand. Some are just much worse than others
@@Nova_501 agreed, but the notion to call them clean is just wrong
Gary Neville saying that these questions need to be asked is fine but why are you asking football managers like they have any sort of impact about what goes on anywhere in the world? They even have limited influence on the club they manage so what makes you think asking them of their thoughts is going to change anything. They’re employed to organise a squad of players to perform on a pitch and that’s all they should be questioned on. Their opinions on the matters are insignificant
Agreed
If they have strong morals then they can choose not to work for such company which means they won’t be able to function
There’s thousands of jobs out there, you don’t have to work for a regime that murders people.
Some people have morals some just want a pay check.
@@bfb187 who cares? If your mum is a cleaner now at chelsea and lost her job. Try telling your mum job is easy to find
Didn't you listen what he said? Clearly not
Carragher knows what being hypocritical is all about. Fact is why would Tuchel go to United when actual “big clubs” with good players will come calling. United have not been relative in about a decade.
Well Sky TV turned it into the circus it all is now.. Normal fan's priced out of the game's.
Just so the elite get richer from it. Neville and carragher sitting with a opinion, after earning vast amount of money playing football when the club's were owned by foreign investors.
Madness
HOW IS BUYING ANOTHER PLAYER TAKING ADVANTAGE?? When Liverpool threw 75 mil at Southampton to buy Van Dijk was that taking advantage of Southampton? Buying and selling players at any price is part of the game. You are literally saying Man united should kick Chelsea while they are down. NOT THE SAME THING
Because they have so much money they can get anyone they want
I was about to ask same question, as. Far its manu and liverpool doing, its all fine...
@@Jamieh8963 cry about jt
@@Jamieh8963 Liverpool and Man U have similar money. I think United even spends more then Chelsea... It completely different, would it be smart for Man U to take Tuchel if they can? Probably. But is that the same as offering huge amounts of money as a transfer fee for a player? Absoloutely not.
all Liverpools and Uniteds spending is done within FFP
cry about it all you want, that 75 million was accounted for, and Southampton benefited GREATLY from it. Both parties did well out of it! It's not a one way street!
Abramovich came in, and every single one of us, including all you Chelsea fans knew his fortune was accumulated in, shall we say a dubious manner.
He played the piper, and you've all followed him off the edge of the cliff! You know that's a fact!
I hope a new owner comes in for you and we can get back to talking footvall, and not immoral owners.
None of us want to see Chelsea collapse. A strong Chelsea is vital for the Premier League.
Someone anger Carragher 🤣🤣🤣🤣, no chance Tuchel is going too Man Utd
Why would he stay in a sinking ship?
@@halberggb3124 How's it sinking dummy
Great discussion, a lot of very important issues raised, Food all most stand for fairness and mortality always, those are the basic principles of sport in general
They are gonna keep pretending Ozil and the China human rights issue never happened. They failed big time. But asking Howe about Saudi is fair game
very true. Also find it funny Boris is heading to saudi to get a oil deal sorted for the UK.
@@deenvdunyateam4388 And Saudi forces have also invaded Yemen. They want to pick and choose their villains at their convenience
Gary "Abby Dabby" Neville is spot on here. As is Jamie
just wonder if jamie would be happy if liverpool was in this situation and someone like gary game out and said an other top english club went and snatched up klopp?
"I've had a few HEATED debates" you can tell cara works for sky
The reason why you should have pundits that played for other clubs other than Man U and Liverpool...
Gary expectedly didn't mention a word about American💲 So he is probably ok/sports-washing with what happened in Afganistan, Syria & Iraq
As a Newcastle fan I absolutely agree that our owners do have a lot to answer for I cannot deny that and same has to be said about Manchester City & PSG but I’ve have noticed our club getting slaughtered more it than those 2. Gary says Pep will get asked the same questions as Eddie I personally don’t think that will happen because it’s Man City. Hope I’m wrong but I just still think there is a narrative against Newcastle because it’s Newcastle. Prove me wrong British media that’s all I’ll say
Yep spot on.
Saudi Arabia has done more wrong essentially
It's because your owners are worse than UAE and Qatar. Unbelievable, but they are and by a substantial margin.
Look up the mass murder they've been committing in Yemen for years, causing the world's biggest humanitarian crisis.
bro seriously, no one but newcastle fans care abwt this
Nev and carra on 🔥 fair play men 👏 👌
Not trying to be dismissive or harsh but....oil has caused more war and harm to a lot of people over many years and yet there are oil tycoons buying clubs like there’s no tomorrow....where’s their sanctions?
Carraghers point of taking advantage of other clubs and us now being hypocritical is not correct. No other situation has the government come in and stopped a club running in the way that they have.
@Marcos G lol exactly
@Marcos G first of all, I don’t know why people go into comment sections with that sort of energy. You could just say that you disagree with me and then go on to say the reason why.
@Marcos G but in reply to your point, the only reason other clubs would be able to take tuchel is because of the sanctions put on the club. So, I did listen, and you have not addressed my point.
That is not an apples to apples comparison Carragher and you know it. It doesn’t mean a team like United wouldn’t be in their right to do so
Carragher basically said that Chelsea are a big club that try and get big players from other big teams. Is that not what everyone does? Haven't seen Chelsea try to get another manager while their club is frozen before.
I'm a Chelsea fan, and of course if a side are in uncertainty, you go after their best players. Its dog eat dog.
England is doing an unjustly sanction on Chelsea. Needless to say. I dont see any positive return from barring chelsea from selling tickets/ clubs/ shirts/ souvenirs. If for whatever reasons, chelsea went bankrupt, this would be a crime british government did to the country and the football history/ culture / beliefs.
Oh well
The funniest bit is now Boris has said no to Russian oil he now has to go to Saudi for it and then at the same time tell them they cant buy chelsea because of crimes in Saudi
Cheers guys- Nevill is spot on on everything he says, and obviously has felt this way for sometime and sounds relieved to finally be able to say his thoughts.
Spot on on what exactly ? Its funny how the UK government force roman to sell the club without earning 1 Pound , and if the standard here is the politcs then what Saudi arabia and UAE Did is nothing comapred to what the UK did in afghanistan and Iraq and also china to Uyghur or Russie to syria but now you become Moral when russie invaded Ukraine
The hypocrisy is unreal. Gary Nev talks of clean money, the UK was built on dirty money and the death of others. Also, let's talk about, Iraq, Afghanistan, Jordan, Yemen, Palestine, the list goes on and on.
Excellent discussion and totally in agreement
Nothing gets Gary’s mojo bulging like a bit of independent regulator talk.
We've got a corrupt PL, a completely uneven playing field and it's so massive that people will ignore where the owners get their money from.
Respect for Gary Neville. Well said.
Gary Neville spoke beautifully and intelligently- he has clearly thought about the whole issue. I still maintain that the freezing of Roman Abramovich‘s Chelsea by the UK government was a hasty decision that will set a precedent that could affect external investors coming to invest in the UK. I think the precedent can be interpreted as thus: IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF NATO, THINK TWICE BEFORE INVESTING IN THE UK
Well said Carra👍🏽
I don't feel sorry for Eddie Howe. He willingly put himself in this position. He knew the owners. He knew the negative PR associated with the ownership. He took the job anyway.
Dudes got kids…..
Serious question: Is the World Cup going to happen this year? Totally corrupt country hosting? Who’s the first player to say he is not gonna play
Straight answers to straight questions..excellent work
Gary neville is such a football intellect his knowledge of the game as a whole is second to none🔥
Yup i agree 100% and im a scouser 😂
Wrong what government has done to abramovic
Nope
I tell you what, I'm a united fan all my life but believe me I say this with an unbias opinion, I wasn't too sure on Gary Neville when he first started out as a pundit 10 or so years back and I didn't agree with most of what he said under the ole era, but my god does he speak so eloquently and hold himself superbly when talking. Knowledgable, resourceful and an excellent addition to Sky Sports. I could really see him getting into politics one day. Jamie is also brilliant.
I’m a hardcore LFC supporter, but I take my hat off to Neville 👍 Well said Gary. His heart is in the right place 👍👍
❤️YNWA❤️