Guys watch out you don't turn into too much of a corporation yourself on TH-cam. 2 ads, patreon promo and gated content, etc. makes it more difficult to digest and actually watch your content. That being said, love what you have been doing so far, just be careful not to lose your roots.
100% agree. I don't mind some ads, but I feel too much time is spent on them and it gets annoying. This is the reason I am a TH-cam premium user, yet I am still forced to watch ads on T&H videos.
How do Swatch & Omega recover from this? 1/ Release the SeaSwatch next. Omega Seamaster and Swatch colab Coloured ceramic variants with rotating bezel. 200m water resistance Release pre Summer 2023/4. It’ll become the sought after watch for summer / wear in the beach / pool etc. 2/ Do a limited run BondSwatch 3/In 2025 release DarkSideOfTheMoonSwatch Full black ceramic…gold hand would be great contrast
It’s important to note that the moonswatch collection is by swatch and not omega. I as someone who works in an omega boutique am not even allowed to wear one in boutique while working.
It's important: 1. Omega logo is on the dial 2. Omega approved that 3. I was an Omega fan - moved to other brands. Even know wear Endurance Pro. That's something I expected by Omega not this Moon*hit.
3:14 is there confusion here? Wasn’t it SWATCH making all of the announcements? Omega has kind of quietly rode along, but maybe this is part of the issue…people are saying these Moonswatch releases are “Omega releases”. They are not. Sure, a lot of marketing to promote a seconds-hand. Sure, we don’t get similar promotion from Rolex - when all they have done for 40+ years has released new dial colors and bezels…let’s not hold a supplier of $275 plastic watches to higher standards as a supplier of mid-range horology.
These are the best episodes to watch. Lol. We just got back to the station after long string of calls and this popped up and was the perfect mode of decompression. Was literally in tears at one point! Thanks for the entertainment, gents (was that in the right spot?)
Missed opportunity Christian!! “We own you now, not really my, problem. You’re gonna do this now”. You were so close to a Walken impression! Haha. Loved it anyway.
The lads totally missed why the watch is such a big deal, they missed that the “gold” part was made during a full moon! Like, how crazy is that! It even comes with a certificate signed by the workers who did the overtime to pump these things out, they even include their timesheets and notes from their kids asking why they had to work so late.
This was a throwback to Rant T&H but cranked up. These guys have become too cocky. It's just a couple of school kids bickering now. 5 minutes on watches. 25 minutes of crap talk.
I was hard on for a Speedmaster Hesalite. Now I don't because I don't want the "Hey, is that the new moonswatch?" experience while wearing my real speedy.
What they should have done was release it unannounced. Imagine how cool that could have been: You go in to buy a "Mission to the Moon" thinking you're getting just that. But little do you know, you actually picked up a sneaky, rare alternative that only the real fans will recognize and appreciate. And it would have taken a while for the world to realize what was going on. The internet would have a swirl of speculation and rumor until it finally realized what happened. It would have been a sleeper release. THAT would have been amazing! Instead they overplayed the hype, under delivered, and basically insulted everyone's intelligence.
Mike, dont worry about commas man. I come from a language culture with a lot of commas. When I came to America, in universities they taught me that basically in America we don't use commas. Now when I need to communicate in other languages and I go without commas, people freak out. So I double down on them and put the full-stop/period inside the quotation marks and insist on putting the month before the date. Have them put up with it, like we put up with Swiss watch price hikes.
I see it differently. It's just unfulfilled expectations. When you expect GOLD, GOLD, GOLD (which "moonshine gold" kind of made you believe), this product is a failure. But when you see it as a VARIATION about mission to the moon (which "mission to the moonshine gold" kind of suggests), damn, I think we're all fine. It's a beautiful variation on the "original". I even think it's better. As a "completely new moonswatch model" it's a failure. But as a variation? I love it! Watch world more than any other is about the details. And the details on this one are just better
How can it be a money grab when it was only released for one day in four cities. It’s a social media hype grab, and they can do it every month. Guys, the watch isn’t for us TH-cam geek, it’s for the TikTok generation and do you really think they read Hodinkee ? They’ve put a million watches on the wrist of a generation most of whom never wore a watch before, and when they grow up which brand do think they have loyalty too ? Others who can’t afford an Omega may wwell buy an Oris or Longines In the UK drinking age is 18. Every college has a student union bar and every brewery fights to get their beer on the bar. The theory goes that if they can get you drinking their beer during your formative 3 or 4 years at university then you’ll drink that beer for the rest of your life. The breweries discount their beer to almost cost price. Many people credit Swatch with saving the Swiss watch industry in the 1980’s. With the huge growth of smartphones and smartwatchs who’s to say that at some point in the future people may think they just did it again. Oh, and Zlatan left LA in January 2020 moving to A.C. Milan. Great story though 😂
Yeah alot of idiots rushing to get them to flip them. These watches fall apart like crazy and you still have full grown men tripping over themselves trying to buy them because they think it'hip . Smfh when does the madness end 🤦♂️the Speedmaster MW has been so watered down to the point I don't even want the real thing anymore. The cool factor and magic it once had is gone. Omega has become a punchline to a bad joke
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 that feels maybe a tad bit dramatic. I can understand why watch enthusiasts feel so hurt by this, but they surely understand that Swatch Group is a company, and the point is the turn a profit.
Better marketing would have been to just have them appear at retail and have the internet buzzing and wondering. Sometimes keeping quiet is the right move.
I remember when you joined the Archie Luxury (played by the method actor Paul Pluta) livestream following the Timepiece Gentleman robbery in late 2021. AC3 called you Theo many many times. Even the best get confused. 🤣🤣🤣
Hey Guys. There are headphones that cost over 50,000. So it's not an inexpensive hobby. We're not even going down the speaker or amp and turntable route.
That's because Theo is ignorant about any other hobby than watches. Noticed his content is getting worse & completely off topic. Criticizes everything unashamedly.
I might have liked this one if it had been part of the first release. But not even real gold. They called this one in either way. Watch enthusiasts came up with better designs.
I had a very large freshman English teacher in the 70’s who had just adopted the new pant suit fashion for women. She caught me staring, and asked if I had never seen a woman in a pant suit before. I told her I had, but not one that big. I was sent to the dean of men and got my ass beaten. It was worth it as my stock rose among my classmates. Public high school btw…
@son goku Yes, it WAS terrible, or Yes, it WASN'T terrible? Tbh, I've never seen one for real, so I haven't actually formed an opinion about them, other than I DON'T think that the whole concept was such a bad idea. However, I did get the impression from the majority of the watch channel TH-camrs, that they felt like the watches themselves were made pretty shitty.
@@FUNZO1975 ok so i have the mission on moon which looks the most similar to the original sm and let me tell you looks wise it looks like a much expensive sm however as soon as you take it in your hands and put on your wrist you will immediately realise its not a sm by even 1% because it was never meant to be its a swatch which says omega on it Its a cheap 1 dollar quartz movement afterall Now i will tell you my reasoning if you can get it for a reasonable amount its a good deal i got it for a little bit 100 usd over retail as i live in india and it was a great deal considering these are being sold 5x retail especialy the moon version For me swatch and omega are both iconic swiss industry wouldnt be alive today if not for swatch and omega doesnt need any introduction either especialy the sm which has such a big horological imp so it was a great addition to my collection but that is what i see it as i wouldnt wear this watch daily or when i know i can damage this which is a childs play Because again this is not meant to be a sm so overall my conclusion is this is a great collectors watch and avg at best for the quality because it was never meant to be replacement for sm its a token to acquire new customers which is great do i think the quality and modis operanda could be better yes but then again for 350 usd cant really complain much
Really made me laugh. Even more than the bald guy cycle helmet ads Keep making yourselves and us laugh. I hear you can get help with commas. On the topic is dodgy teachers. We had forced scripture lessons (age 7-12) every day. Was only when I got older that I realised it wasn’t even a religious school - she had her favourites too. One day a kid spat at another. Perpetrator has to lay on the floor whilst the entire class walk around him and pretend to spit at and kick him. She got the sack in the end for allegedly attacking a kid. Although at the same time there were some kids there that were so slow I can see how you’d lose it with them.
Guys watch out you don't turn into too much of a corporation yourself on TH-cam. 2 ads, patreon promo and gated content, etc. makes it more difficult to digest and actually watch your content. That being said, love what you have been doing so far, just be careful not to lose your roots.
100% agree. I don't mind some ads, but I feel too much time is spent on them and it gets annoying. This is the reason I am a TH-cam premium user, yet I am still forced to watch ads on T&H videos.
Too many ads in one video, don’t go down that path.
I mean they can’t even talk about their clothes without trying to sell them to you.
@@ToolwatchBoutique Yeah but that's just a Christian thing. Michael is supposed to keep him in check.
@@joggle4321 Oh yeah totally! Captain Pretentious and his Minion
How do Swatch & Omega recover from this?
1/ Release the SeaSwatch next.
Omega Seamaster and Swatch colab
Coloured ceramic variants with rotating bezel. 200m water resistance
Release pre Summer 2023/4.
It’ll become the sought after watch for summer / wear in the beach / pool etc.
2/ Do a limited run BondSwatch
3/In 2025 release DarkSideOfTheMoonSwatch
Full black ceramic…gold hand would be great contrast
I love the idea of SeaSwatch…and also Dar side of the MoonSwatch. Think we will see the former not the later
Bring on the SeaSwatch !
Swatch x Omega - Seamaster
Mission to the bottom.
This was such a good episode, good job Theo Harrington!
Zlatan is back playing in Europe (specifically in Italy for AC Milan).
Love the content fellas!
Yep! And it's been already 3 years 😂
@@_traveller88 Yeah, a bit late with the LA Galaxy reference haha!
It’s important to note that the moonswatch collection is by swatch and not omega. I as someone who works in an omega boutique am not even allowed to wear one in boutique while working.
Really? 😳 The sales person at the Omega boutique in Zürich was even wearing an Hublot
It's important:
1. Omega logo is on the dial
2. Omega approved that
3. I was an Omega fan - moved to other brands. Even know wear Endurance Pro. That's something I expected by Omega not this Moon*hit.
I feel like they could have made a cheap snoopy. That would have sold like hot cakes.
Timex sells a Snoopy watch that is built way better than these
@@Officialv5a yeah, the moon swatch quality doesn't seem great. I mean just from a business perspective a snoopy would have been very good for them.
Ibra plays for Milan.. kind of like people thinking Michael is a fan
Who's going to tell Christian that Ibrahimovic left MLS two years ago and has already won a title with Milan😂
The best watch video barely talking about watches, loved it. 😂
If this keeps going, it won't be too long before Omega and the moonswatch becomes mixed into a Cyborg blend of the two watches.
Love the Watch News, Liquor Run and Off Topic segments. Great work lads!
complete rubbish. Is this a watch channel? 2 minutes of watch talk. The rest on bullshit jibber jab.
@@oysterman962 Chill.
Can’t even go 4 minutes into the topic before a patreon plug and then an ad read as a new viewer that’s probably the worst experience
3:14 is there confusion here? Wasn’t it SWATCH making all of the announcements? Omega has kind of quietly rode along, but maybe this is part of the issue…people are saying these Moonswatch releases are “Omega releases”. They are not. Sure, a lot of marketing to promote a seconds-hand. Sure, we don’t get similar promotion from Rolex - when all they have done for 40+ years has released new dial colors and bezels…let’s not hold a supplier of $275 plastic watches to higher standards as a supplier of mid-range horology.
Yes. It's a plastic Swatch. Omega doesn't make these products. Their parent company does, dragging their name along with it.
First half of the video was good, but the second half was pure gold lol
id love to hear christian open up with
hello everyone. im EVERYTHING wrong with the watch world
These are the best episodes to watch. Lol. We just got back to the station after long string of calls and this popped up and was the perfect mode of decompression. Was literally in tears at one point! Thanks for the entertainment, gents (was that in the right spot?)
Excuse me Ma'm. There was some content between my ads
Missed opportunity Christian!! “We own you now, not really my, problem. You’re gonna do this now”. You were so close to a Walken impression! Haha. Loved it anyway.
Please don’t do a pay wall for Liquor Run…
One of your most entertaining videos yet guys!
By Woman, Christian means Dude and by other boys, he means himself …
Not a gold hand, it's more like a..........goldfinger.
i saw what you did there
So happy to hear you’re recording more Podcast episodes! I miss it.
The lads totally missed why the watch is such a big deal, they missed that the “gold” part was made during a full moon! Like, how crazy is that! It even comes with a certificate signed by the workers who did the overtime to pump these things out, they even include their timesheets and notes from their kids asking why they had to work so late.
Because the phase of the moon when your teeny tiny gold hand was made on your plastic swatch really matters. 😂
This was a throwback to Rant T&H but cranked up. These guys have become too cocky. It's just a couple of school kids bickering now. 5 minutes on watches. 25 minutes of crap talk.
@@oysterman962 then I guess it’s simply not your channel dude
@@albertomoro86 Compare this junk with a much more constructive channel.
th-cam.com/video/zVoAGcNV6oY/w-d-xo.html
@@oysterman962 yep that guys is good. Thanks for sharing.
However I love Chris and Mike ranting. I think I need a bit of that ☺️
That was a great episode. Loved the casual banter and laughs. Fantastic!
Came for the watches.. stayed for the story..😂
Holy moly this podcast got interesting near the end!
Ibrahimovic plays for AC Milan and lead their young team a championship. He's incredible.
I was hard on for a Speedmaster Hesalite. Now I don't because I don't want the "Hey, is that the new moonswatch?" experience while wearing my real speedy.
See, that's a reason I WANT an actual Moonwatch. That would be so hilarious, "Is THAT a MoonSwatch?!"
"Yep, that's what it is!" Will be hilarious.
Zlatan has been playing at AC Milan for the past few years, he left the MLS ages ago
worst placed Harvey Dent quote of all time.... Ur not that guy pal, ur not that guy.
It never ceases to throw me off when someone says Theodore. Only my mother is allowed to call me that
Theo is great. Poor Harris gets no respect.
This one went slightly off the rails haha
Come for the Watches, stay for the Paedo stories. Love it.
Wut?
I LOVE the off-topic part, it's amazing!
“Yeah I’m staring at the most boring watch of all time”. Hahahahahahah
"I own you.....mdfckr"....hahahah awesome
The key to watching these videos is to simply skip through all the advert BS directly to the content. Honestly fellas, 2 plugs in one video? Come on
What they should have done was release it unannounced. Imagine how cool that could have been: You go in to buy a "Mission to the Moon" thinking you're getting just that. But little do you know, you actually picked up a sneaky, rare alternative that only the real fans will recognize and appreciate. And it would have taken a while for the world to realize what was going on. The internet would have a swirl of speculation and rumor until it finally realized what happened. It would have been a sleeper release. THAT would have been amazing!
Instead they overplayed the hype, under delivered, and basically insulted everyone's intelligence.
If you two get that loose on a camera,(comma inserted) what on earth are you like in person !?! Hilarious episode.
Mike, dont worry about commas man. I come from a language culture with a lot of commas. When I came to America, in universities they taught me that basically in America we don't use commas. Now when I need to communicate in other languages and I go without commas, people freak out. So I double down on them and put the full-stop/period inside the quotation marks and insist on putting the month before the date. Have them put up with it, like we put up with Swiss watch price hikes.
What brand is that t-shirt Christian is wearing?
“you obviously aren’t into watches if you don’t know who I am” 🤦🏻♂️ cringe
Harris is wearing a nice sweater today!
That’s Theodore
I see it differently. It's just unfulfilled expectations. When you expect GOLD, GOLD, GOLD (which "moonshine gold" kind of made you believe), this product is a failure. But when you see it as a VARIATION about mission to the moon (which "mission to the moonshine gold" kind of suggests), damn, I think we're all fine. It's a beautiful variation on the "original". I even think it's better. As a "completely new moonswatch model" it's a failure. But as a variation? I love it! Watch world more than any other is about the details. And the details on this one are just better
How can it be a money grab when it was only released for one day in four cities. It’s a social media hype grab, and they can do it every month.
Guys, the watch isn’t for us TH-cam geek,
it’s for the TikTok generation and do you really think they read Hodinkee ?
They’ve put a million watches on the wrist of a generation most of whom never wore a watch before, and when they grow up which brand do think they have loyalty too ? Others who can’t afford an Omega may wwell buy an Oris or Longines
In the UK drinking age is 18. Every college has a student union bar and every brewery fights to get their beer on the bar. The theory goes that if they can get you drinking their beer during your formative 3 or 4 years at university then you’ll drink that beer for the rest of your life. The breweries discount their beer to almost cost price. Many people credit Swatch with saving the Swiss watch industry in the 1980’s. With the huge growth of smartphones and smartwatchs who’s to say that at some point in the future people may think they just did it again.
Oh, and Zlatan left LA in January 2020 moving to A.C. Milan. Great story though 😂
You think if someone doesn’t know who you are that they can’t really be into watches? Seriously?
Which ones Theo?
Totally agree Swatch went to to far, Drinking their own Kool-Aid. They had one of the most amazing ideas and releases and F it up. Its a joke now.
did u boys just wake up?
Can someone explain how this “flopped?” I saw huge lines of people for this release, how is that a flop?
Yeah alot of idiots rushing to get them to flip them. These watches fall apart like crazy and you still have full grown men tripping over themselves trying to buy them because they think it'hip . Smfh when does the madness end 🤦♂️the Speedmaster MW has been so watered down to the point I don't even want the real thing anymore. The cool factor and magic it once had is gone. Omega has become a punchline to a bad joke
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 that feels maybe a tad bit dramatic. I can understand why watch enthusiasts feel so hurt by this, but they surely understand that Swatch Group is a company, and the point is the turn a profit.
Swatch,released another Swatch. Not that serious. No one really cares, but it gave a handful of TH-camrs a video idea.
Don’t get me started on colons and semi- colons.
I was laughing out loud throughout the last half of this video. You guys rock. Keep up the good work!
That was some wild story about a hilarious incident of child molestation. You don't really expect that on a video titled Moonswatch.
Zlatan is king (back in milan since last season). Performs at top level at 42! 😵💫
The 5 W's for writing an newspaper article.
Swatch jumped the shark with this one.
Swatch doing a collaboration with the world timer by Rochefoucauld. You heard it here first 🤫
Wait a minute! This isn't Theodore and Harris?!?!??!??
Better marketing would have been to just have them appear at retail and have the internet buzzing and wondering. Sometimes keeping quiet is the right move.
Looking forward to the return of the podcast!
Impudent or impotent? 👍🏻
My friends, leave the donkey where he loves to be . It is a matter of brotherhood ,whether humanity or donkeys 🤔
I remember when you joined the Archie Luxury (played by the method actor Paul Pluta) livestream following the Timepiece Gentleman robbery in late 2021. AC3 called you Theo many many times. Even the best get confused. 🤣🤣🤣
what chairs are they? haha but for real I really like the look of them, where are they from?
"The Moonswatch is Terrible." fixed it for you.
You realize Adrian is Scottish right?
Let it be known that I, Michael, corrected Christian about this and our editor cut it out
Also @Adrian we love you
He says he is so ill have to go with that.
Mission to Archies horns.
Hey Guys. There are headphones that cost over 50,000. So it's not an inexpensive hobby. We're not even going down the speaker or amp and turntable route.
That's because Theo is ignorant about any other hobby than watches. Noticed his content is getting worse & completely off topic. Criticizes everything unashamedly.
The ‘old’ ones, too! 😂
"The most supposed neutral article site Hodinkee" LOL rrrright......
please bring liquor into the regular fold
From my perspective as a pocket watch collector, also collecting Omega pocket watches this is just hilarious… I have no words for it.
I might have liked this one if it had been part of the first release. But not even real gold. They called this one in either way. Watch enthusiasts came up with better designs.
Jesus the relentless ads are annoying.
This was great. Theodore and a fan 😅😂
I finally got one after a year
You couldnt pronounce Zlatan Ibrahimovic in a more American way 17:18
I had a very large freshman English teacher in the 70’s who had just adopted the new pant suit fashion for women. She caught me staring, and asked if I had never seen a woman in a pant suit before. I told her I had, but not one that big. I was sent to the dean of men and got my ass beaten. It was worth it as my stock rose among my classmates. Public high school btw…
8th grade is 13 or 14. Still weird though.
Hilarious vid guys. More of y’all just being funny af
10min of blue balls... Y
So,
... the old moonswatch WASN'T terrible?
Yes
@son goku
Yes, it WAS terrible, or
Yes, it WASN'T terrible?
Tbh, I've never seen one for real, so I haven't actually formed an opinion about them, other than I DON'T think that the whole concept was such a bad idea.
However, I did get the impression from the majority of the watch channel TH-camrs, that they felt like the watches themselves were made pretty shitty.
@@FUNZO1975 ok so i have the mission on moon which looks the most similar to the original sm and let me tell you looks wise it looks like a much expensive sm however as soon as you take it in your hands and put on your wrist you will immediately realise its not a sm by even 1% because it was never meant to be its a swatch which says omega on it
Its a cheap 1 dollar quartz movement afterall
Now i will tell you my reasoning if you can get it for a reasonable amount its a good deal i got it for a little bit 100 usd over retail as i live in india and it was a great deal considering these are being sold 5x retail especialy the moon version
For me swatch and omega are both iconic swiss industry wouldnt be alive today if not for swatch and omega doesnt need any introduction either especialy the sm which has such a big horological imp so it was a great addition to my collection but that is what i see it as i wouldnt wear this watch daily or when i know i can damage this which is a childs play
Because again this is not meant to be a sm so overall my conclusion is this is a great collectors watch and avg at best for the quality because it was never meant to be replacement for sm its a token to acquire new customers which is great do i think the quality and modis operanda could be better yes but then again for 350 usd cant really complain much
Loved, this episode. S,o funny 😂. Much love, from, England. ❤
Useful word, and pronounced "im-pyew-dent".
Really made me laugh. Even more than the bald guy cycle helmet ads
Keep making yourselves and us laugh.
I hear you can get help with commas.
On the topic is dodgy teachers. We had forced scripture lessons (age 7-12) every day. Was only when I got older that I realised it wasn’t even a religious school - she had her favourites too. One day a kid spat at another. Perpetrator has to lay on the floor whilst the entire class walk around him and pretend to spit at and kick him.
She got the sack in the end for allegedly attacking a kid. Although at the same time there were some kids there that were so slow I can see how you’d lose it with them.
It's the premier athlete that plays one season too long.
Christian doesn't make any sound when he laughs really hard. What's that all about
How much is Michael getting paid?
Too much
I might have missed it but what watch is Christian wearing?! That looks UHmazing! And LOVE it on the blue srap. Absolutely brilliant!
Easy girls..😅
This explains everything
Keep the lols coming….😂
Real entertaining episode! And yes, comma, I'm pretty certain nobody likes Lebron!
I like LeBron
LOL
The new and old moonswatches are terrible but they are better than an Apple Watch
Im actually second
Third