CBR heavier because it have brake caliper with 4 piston.. and 3liters more on fuel space. and bigger rear TYRE.. and bigger castwheel, and UPSIDE down.
@@VictorMartinez_ However for a sub-600cc Honda & Kawasaki, especially the non supersport category, Honda tends to have more frequent maintenance compared to the Ninja.
After considering both bikes; I bought the CBR500R and LOVE it. I appreciate the heavier weight while riding on the freeway and semi's pass me. It has enough get up and go for this 65 yr. old rider. I reminds me of my bikes in my past. Great bike!!
Great video and presentation, thanks! Cool designs. Good point about the extra weight on the one bike affecting it a little. Interesting they are both under 500cc, 451 for the Ninja here. A Ninja 400 vs Ninja 500 comparison should be interesting.
I’ve been watching tons of videos about 500’s and every time I’m more in love with the CBR500❤️ as a big bikes beginner, I can’t fault anything on this bike🤷🏽♂️
Being honest if it wasn't for the 40th anniversary, I really would have bought CBR instead of ninjas. However the 40th anniversary colours were too hard to walk away from literally (I have a small collection now lol. The only 40th under a litre I didn't buy was 650l as 40th looked plain in comparison
Just remember guys that the us spec ninja gets 51 hp per kawasakis website it’s not even a contest with that knowledge considering you can get the ninja for 2000 less
Just bought another 40th 500 for my wife. I couldn't believe she got her licence and all including airbag jacket last week. Im living my dreams. Also Honda cbr500 I have never seen in dealerships i go to (over half dozen) and only today I saw one being walked out for a customer (wasn't in store prior)
@@sid38743I have tried it,i'd say its at 185 KM/H(im using GPS) and 195 KM/H with the bike speedometer Id say this is a great daily thanks to its torque. And fuel consumption are good too Although i still say the ninja 500 is great but i prefer the cbr500r
I have the old Ninja 400 when it was first introduced. It would run circle around CBR 500R. The new CBR 500 has improved a lot, but on track, it still cannot keep up with my Ninja 400. I have full YSS improvements for the Ninja 400, and it will surpass the latest CBR 500 on track. Fortunately, YSS system is also available for CBR 500.. Regarding rear tyre size, I opt for 140 which gives my Ninja 400 better take off and around corners.
hello, I have a question, if I take a ninja 500 wich has conventional telescopic forks, will I feel the difference between this and a inverted fork? Because actually I have a mt-125 because I leave in Europe and there is the restriction, so I am asking my self if I will feel a difference if I take a bike with conventional telescopic forks instead of inverted forks wich is the case for my bike
Mainly when ridden back to back with hard cornering. Technically the USD forks are more stable in every way but as a novice it's no big deal. Go with what excites you and fits your budget.
It has lower power to weight ratio though, while the CBR has higher engine power due to it being 471cc compared to the Ninja's 451 it gets defeated by the Ninja overall on the power to weight ratio. Ninja is only 173kg and the CBR is 191kg which weighs like R1
That weight is 41lbs. That significant to me plus shorter wheelbase i like. It's a toss up. Would come to color and availability to me. I could do either
More CC's does not equate to more power. The Kawasaki engine is better than the CBR's in terms of raw performance. The Ninja 500 is better for the performance rider, CBR 500R better for the older rider who wants fuel economy and does touring.@@johnmichaelparedes7987
It has a better engine than the ninja 500, also they included the dry weight for the ninja but the wet weight for the cbr, not to mention the cbr has bigger tyres and carries a heavier fuel load due to a larger tank
Top speed of ninja and cbr? Would love to try both. Honda's got some pros, that ninja doesn't have, but again the ninja has some pros that the honda doesnt have. I'm really struggling to pick between them. Which one would yall get, and why?
CBR500R is for the everyday conscious commuter who want sporty look, low maintenance, dependable but still a bit of speed and power (which you can always uograde) ninja is sportier, faster , more uncomfortable in long rides, lightweight and more affordable bike I'd go with CBR500R Even tho it's pricier i plan on keeping it for more than 5 years and am not trying to go that fast 😂 but anyone who chooses the ninja you the real ones Hats off to you guys man👍🏼
@@redsview Uglier than the previous model though, Ninja always have a good design in any model except 150cc, that's including all 4 Japanese bikes below 250cc
@@redsview Looks? No way, the CBR always looks like a bug to me and only comes in red for the most part. The Ninja is definitely the better looking one, no contest.
Ninja 500 can go 31.6km/l, compare to CBR500R, it can only go 28km/l, this means that the Ninja is only short of 1 litre of fuel, however considering the power to weight ratio of both bikes, real riding experience promises both bikes ride at the same distance.
People would still prefer to buy this Ninja500 because they’ve been brainwashed by its brand, but if you’re a practical and knows how to research you will probably prefer to buy Honda instead.
Nope, both are not originally made in Japan, so quality and materials are mostly the same, a more branded parts does not means they have the quality as the Jap's made, quality & longevity is affected more by riding style. So, every sub 600cc bikes non-Japanese made, cheaper is better
More materials on the parts, however doesn't mean a better quality, all sub 600ccs are not Japanese made, quality & materials are mostly the same although some parts represent better brands
True, because it can revs higher & smoother, rev limits at 10,000 rpm compared to Honda at 8750 rpm. Ninja have higher top speed too at 190km/h compared to CBR at 184km/h
@@sid38743 on the ninja it caps at 124 I’ve gotten my fzr600 up to 150 after resetting it buts it’s misfiring a bunch so I bet I can get like 160 out of her one day but I’m more of a track guy don’t really have the itch to go 200mph
Ninja all the way! I own a 400 and it's easy to shed 10kg from it by removing some parts like the tail, rear seat and supports. A lighter bike will always be better.
@@christosswc Heavier but slower does not means anything. It only works with bikes with 600cc & above, extra weight must come with extra power is the key
@@nelocinco3836 No it must not come with anything, there's no specific amount of performance as a requiement. The R3 is much lighter but has a much smaller engine and therefore less performance than both, both in acceleration and especially in low/mid rpm pulls. Still agreat bike, for many better than both. Honda went for a bigger bike so naturally heavier, that has it's pros and cons. A bike is not measured in just acceleration numbers. Also the CBR has more torque so in real world performance it performs just fine thanks to torque and also is less less affected by a heavy rider than a smaller lighter bike.
@@christosswc The Honda toped at 184 & Kawi at 190, the 400cc kawi with lighter body & smaller cc than both still smoked them both although with lower torque, but its shorter stroke helps its engine to rev higher... If the 3 bikes have riders of similar weight, bet Kawi 400 will win, Kawi 500 definitely be fhe second... Plus the Honda's torque is barely higher than Kawi 500, means that it won't be enough to compensate for its heavy weight
@@POPCATCHUBSEAL You obviously don't understand engine numbers than. Ninja 300 is 39 HP at 11K RPM with 17.5 Ft lbs of torque at 10K vs Ninja 500 with 45 HP at 9K RPM and 34 ft lbs of torque at 6K. That means your power comes on WAY stronger at WAY less RPM meaning much better acceleration. Yes you will have similar top speeds but the new 500 will get there so much faster.
@@joshgts9675 bro the ninja 500 and 400 are both made for country riding, the ninja 500 has just more tork so it can accelerate way more faster than the ninja 400, it doesn't mean the ninja 500 can't go at high rpm
CBR heavier because it have brake caliper with 4 piston.. and 3liters more on fuel space. and bigger rear TYRE.. and bigger castwheel, and UPSIDE down.
CBR it's better motorbike, anyway, Kawasaki Ninja is a good motorbike too.
@@VictorMartinez_ However for a sub-600cc Honda & Kawasaki, especially the non supersport category, Honda tends to have more frequent maintenance compared to the Ninja.
@@nelocinco3836 Change oil to 12.000 km, not more frequency
After considering both bikes; I bought the CBR500R and LOVE it. I appreciate the heavier weight while riding on the freeway and semi's pass me. It has enough get up and go for this 65 yr. old rider. I reminds me of my bikes in my past. Great bike!!
Great video and presentation, thanks! Cool designs. Good point about the extra weight on the one bike affecting it a little. Interesting they are both under 500cc, 451 for the Ninja here. A Ninja 400 vs Ninja 500 comparison should be interesting.
ninja 400 vs ninja 500 is already made
@@michaeldavid1566 Yes, I was able to check it out in the link at the end, thanks.
I always wait for your video, no matter what the motorcycle is
which one did you buy
I’ve been watching tons of videos about 500’s and every time I’m more in love with the CBR500❤️ as a big bikes beginner, I can’t fault anything on this bike🤷🏽♂️
Being honest if it wasn't for the 40th anniversary, I really would have bought CBR instead of ninjas. However the 40th anniversary colours were too hard to walk away from literally (I have a small collection now lol. The only 40th under a litre I didn't buy was 650l as 40th looked plain in comparison
I ended up buying the 40th anniversary SE. I'm happy
Just remember guys that the us spec ninja gets 51 hp per kawasakis website it’s not even a contest with that knowledge considering you can get the ninja for 2000 less
Just bought another 40th 500 for my wife. I couldn't believe she got her licence and all including airbag jacket last week. Im living my dreams. Also Honda cbr500 I have never seen in dealerships i go to (over half dozen) and only today I saw one being walked out for a customer (wasn't in store prior)
The ninja SE comes with all LED lights in the US not sure about elsewhere
They both look awesome
I got the CBR 500 and she is perfect in every way at top speed
what was your top speed?
@@sid38743 110
@@sid38743I have tried it,i'd say its at 185 KM/H(im using GPS) and 195 KM/H with the bike speedometer
Id say this is a great daily thanks to its torque. And fuel consumption are good too
Although i still say the ninja 500 is great but i prefer the cbr500r
@@sid38743I'm curious about that. My top speed is 201kmh as 202kmh rev limiter kicks in (ninja 500 40th Australia 45hp version)
I have the old Ninja 400 when it was first introduced. It would run circle around CBR 500R. The new CBR 500 has improved a lot, but on track, it still cannot keep up with my Ninja 400. I have full YSS improvements for the Ninja 400, and it will surpass the latest CBR 500 on track. Fortunately, YSS system is also available for CBR 500.. Regarding rear tyre size, I opt for 140 which gives my Ninja 400 better take off and around corners.
hello, I have a question, if I take a ninja 500 wich has conventional telescopic forks, will I feel the difference between this and a inverted fork? Because actually I have a mt-125 because I leave in Europe and there is the restriction, so I am asking my self if I will feel a difference if I take a bike with conventional telescopic forks instead of inverted forks wich is the case for my bike
Mainly when ridden back to back with hard cornering. Technically the USD forks are more stable in every way but as a novice it's no big deal. Go with what excites you and fits your budget.
CBR500r just makes more sense to buy than the Kawasaki 500
I've always been a fan of Kawasaki but the shortcomings really were disappointing. Honda is the best the choice here.
Why? because it is heavier?
It has lower power to weight ratio though, while the CBR has higher engine power due to it being 471cc compared to the Ninja's 451 it gets defeated by the Ninja overall on the power to weight ratio. Ninja is only 173kg and the CBR is 191kg which weighs like R1
That weight is 41lbs. That significant to me plus shorter wheelbase i like. It's a toss up. Would come to color and availability to me. I could do either
More CC's does not equate to more power. The Kawasaki engine is better than the CBR's in terms of raw performance.
The Ninja 500 is better for the performance rider, CBR 500R better for the older rider who wants fuel economy and does touring.@@johnmichaelparedes7987
The only issue with the honda are the weight and its boring engine
Some of the weight difference is due to the fact that the cbr has more sportier sized tires
It has a better engine than the ninja 500, also they included the dry weight for the ninja but the wet weight for the cbr, not to mention the cbr has bigger tyres and carries a heavier fuel load due to a larger tank
@@joseph9556 Which makes it slower off the line
@@jakehardy7270 both was dry weight, CBR weigh more on wet weight
Still 450sr is the winning in top of speed
Top speed of ninja and cbr? Would love to try both. Honda's got some pros, that ninja doesn't have, but again the ninja has some pros that the honda doesnt have. I'm really struggling to pick between them. Which one would yall get, and why?
CBR500R is for the everyday conscious commuter who want sporty look, low maintenance, dependable but still a bit of speed and power (which you can always uograde) ninja is sportier, faster , more uncomfortable in long rides, lightweight and more affordable bike
I'd go with CBR500R
Even tho it's pricier i plan on keeping it for more than 5 years and am not trying to go that fast 😂 but anyone who chooses the ninja you the real ones
Hats off to you guys man👍🏼
@@johno1992a Fs, tysm!!
There is nothing wrong with the conventional fork on the Ninja, ditto the smaller tyres. The Honda definitely has better brakes though.
And better tires and look
@@redsview Uglier than the previous model though, Ninja always have a good design in any model except 150cc, that's including all 4 Japanese bikes below 250cc
@@redsview Looks? No way, the CBR always looks like a bug to me and only comes in red for the most part. The Ninja is definitely the better looking one, no contest.
Ninja 500 can go 31.6km/l, compare to CBR500R, it can only go 28km/l, this means that the Ninja is only short of 1 litre of fuel, however considering the power to weight ratio of both bikes, real riding experience promises both bikes ride at the same distance.
Where are you getting the ninja’s figures from?
I’m getting the Kawasaki 500 all the way it’s cheaper it looks better and is still fast 🙌🏼
is the new e-clutch from honda not available in the cbr500r?
bro, who wants to spend so much money on a starter bike? just buy a CBR 650 with no e-clutch at this point.
Compare street triple rs 2023 vs Mt09 2024
The interpretation will favour the Triple RS
New cbr very good👍
hi sir, do some comparison of Kawasaki versys 1000 vs Suzuki GSX S1000 GX +
There is nothing "new" about upside down front forks my 1939 bmw R35 has them.
Both are Japanese and no doubt about quality and performance.. I ll pick the cheapest amongst them
Quality are similar, what affects the quality & its longevity is the riding style
Kawasaki ninja 500😊👍👏
CF Moto 450sr dominate this segment. It's a no brainer on paper
But parts availability poor resell value, and unknown reliability, at least not as known as for Honda.
What's rev limiter difference?
8750 for CBR500R & 10,000 for Ninja 500
Honda: Sometimes a slower bike but always a superior quality bike.
aprillia 457 vs honda cbr500r 😊
Aprilia is junk
Kawasaki ❤
I wish these bikes were not labelled "BUDGET" as they are not.
They are tho. If your a kid with no bills you can afford these
They’re half the price of proper bikes, $200 a month is pretty budget.
Ninja 500 have better top speed and torque as compared to cbr very low. Speed, haay
Depends in the area, I want a reliable Bike. both are but in my area ninja always have parts.
People would still prefer to buy this Ninja500 because they’ve been brainwashed by its brand, but if you’re a practical and knows how to research you will probably prefer to buy Honda instead.
Nope, both are not originally made in Japan, so quality and materials are mostly the same, a more branded parts does not means they have the quality as the Jap's made, quality & longevity is affected more by riding style. So, every sub 600cc bikes non-Japanese made, cheaper is better
In the USA, the new N500 comes with 51hp from factory, making it way better to buy, also shifting with a Kawa is always smoother
Duke 890 vs the new 990? 🙏
Why r Hondas so heavy
Better stability on highways and the bigger tires
It's a bigger bike mate, and it's more stable at speed as well, especially with high winds.
bigger tire, and 3liters more fuel. and THE BRAKE have 4 piston, that's make it heavy.
More materials on the parts, however doesn't mean a better quality, all sub 600ccs are not Japanese made, quality & materials are mostly the same although some parts represent better brands
Wrong the ninja has 51 hp Which is more than the CBR. This is directly from the Kawasaki website!
This video was assuming the Ninja had less power when the HP were not yet released. The Ninja has 4 HP more however.
True, because it can revs higher & smoother, rev limits at 10,000 rpm compared to Honda at 8750 rpm. Ninja have higher top speed too at 190km/h compared to CBR at 184km/h
Both motorcycle waiting for inline 4 dual disc Infront 😅
I got the ninja only gotten one good ride on it so far cause the weather definitely not the most experienced rider but god damn things a fuckin blast
You got a slip on?
@@melvin3864 yes sir got a Leo Vince Corsa exhaust made some videos of it on my other channel if you wanna check it out @tismarkman
what was your all time top speed?
@@sid38743 on the ninja it caps at 124 I’ve gotten my fzr600 up to 150 after resetting it buts it’s misfiring a bunch so I bet I can get like 160 out of her one day but I’m more of a track guy don’t really have the itch to go 200mph
Benelli T3 ,T4, T5 is now much more stunning than this
Usd fork means fuck all if its non adjustable. Id rather have the lighter more simple fork
Not true.
Sad thing for yamaha fan that yammie bike already left out of the game
Probably they're planning for 3 cylinders R3 with 330cc & R5 with 548cc, those would be great sporty engines
All I can see is that I'm not regretting getting Cfmoto 450sr 🤣
You will soon lol.
You pay huge service costs.
Twice per year at least is required in order to have warranty.
@@ElCoco1984 oh yeah? Really pay your ass, cfmoto interns of durability time will tell, your ninja ang cbr are over pricing ang fokking heavy haay
It's a cheap china bike 🗑️
@@ElCoco1984 said Joe Mama? 🤣
@@ElCoco19842x a year is fairly reasonable schedule, any bike would have breakdown period for maintenance before achieving its true performance
Modern bikes have really gone backwards. Hell 1990 tzr 250, etc will beat both of these lawn mower powered bikes.
They r forced to due to regulations
This video isn’t gonna tell you shit find someone who actually ridden them both.
Ninja all the way! I own a 400 and it's easy to shed 10kg from it by removing some parts like the tail, rear seat and supports.
A lighter bike will always be better.
Not to mention the “bread box” catalyst converter weighs like 20lbs on these bikes. A full race exhaust is always my first mod.
Not on the highway it will be not, especially on a windy day.
There, a heavier bike will always be better.
@@christosswc Heavier but slower does not means anything. It only works with bikes with 600cc & above, extra weight must come with extra power is the key
@@nelocinco3836 No it must not come with anything, there's no specific amount of performance as a requiement.
The R3 is much lighter but has a much smaller engine and therefore less performance than both, both in acceleration and especially in low/mid rpm pulls.
Still agreat bike, for many better than both.
Honda went for a bigger bike so naturally heavier, that has it's pros and cons.
A bike is not measured in just acceleration numbers.
Also the CBR has more torque so in real world performance it performs just fine thanks to torque and also is less less affected by a heavy rider than a smaller lighter bike.
@@christosswc The Honda toped at 184 & Kawi at 190, the 400cc kawi with lighter body & smaller cc than both still smoked them both although with lower torque, but its shorter stroke helps its engine to rev higher... If the 3 bikes have riders of similar weight, bet Kawi 400 will win, Kawi 500 definitely be fhe second... Plus the Honda's torque is barely higher than Kawi 500, means that it won't be enough to compensate for its heavy weight
Top speed of ninja?
The stuff of legends.
119 mph
Ninja toped at 190kmh, CBR at 184kmh
The cbr is infinitely more comfortable
Ninja 300 has 40hp, why buy brand new Ninja 500 when u can get a used ninja 300 for $2000 that offers the same electronics and 5hp less
The Ninja has less than 40hp and it has waaaay less torque.
This is for communism specced bikes. North American bikes will have different numbers.
@@ElCoco1984 ofc no replacement for displacement but what I'm saying here that there is no improvement
@@POPCATCHUBSEAL You obviously don't understand engine numbers than. Ninja 300 is 39 HP at 11K RPM with 17.5 Ft lbs of torque at 10K vs Ninja 500 with 45 HP at 9K RPM and 34 ft lbs of torque at 6K. That means your power comes on WAY stronger at WAY less RPM meaning much better acceleration. Yes you will have similar top speeds but the new 500 will get there so much faster.
Not Ninja 500 and not cbr 500r...I love only Ninja 400 instead of both and yes Ninja 400 will smoke both of them in top end🔥
Who the hell cares about top end for such bikes? 😂
top end to hell
@@ElCoco1984 highway riders🔥 and top end of a bike a serious thing for many sport bike riders... Lol
People who aren't red light racers such as yourself.@@ElCoco1984
@@joshgts9675 bro the ninja 500 and 400 are both made for country riding, the ninja 500 has just more tork so it can accelerate way more faster than the ninja 400, it doesn't mean the ninja 500 can't go at high rpm
In both of them I will choose, Aprilia 457
Also in Australia we are Euro 5 and power is lower here. Ninja is 45ps and unsure about the Honda
They are NOT budget bikes, no such thing.
Maybe you should be looking at bicycles
Maybe Entry level bikes?
Ninja is still using convetiona telescopic fork lol
Honda with inverted fork without adjustability means fuck it all. Better get the cheaper one, quality are both the same, only affected by riding style
I wish they had stuck with the ninja 400
Ninja 500 for the look, CBR500R for performance.
Ninja 500 performs better
Ninja is like a Bajaj pulsar.. 😂😂 no features
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