OneTigris Cosmitto 2.0 Waterproof Test Night - Did They Actually Fix It?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 มี.ค. 2023
- In this Test Night Episode, Luke is waterproof testing the New and Improved (hopefully) OneTigris Cosmitto 2.0 Tent.
Has OneTigris fixed the issues with the original tent and is it enough to win back trust and respect from the outdoor community?
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OneTigris Quietly Updated the Cosmitto Tent - Version 2.0 is Here
Link : www.onetigris.com/us/cosmitto...
Person : 2
Doors : 2
Partially freestanding, the doors do need to be staked out.
HSHR : 2000mm
Materials :
20D Plaid Ripstop Polyester Outer Tent
70D Nylon Tent Bottom
40D Nylon Mesh Inner Tent,
YKK Zippers,
#7001 Aluminum Alloy Tent Poles
Dimensions :
Setup 6.9ft long x 4.27ft wide x 3.6ft high
Folded 20.5” x 6.7”
Weight : 5.1lbs
Colors : Coyote Brown and Wolf Gray
Price : $170
Here’s what is different - 4 main points -
Change the design of the tent structure which is same as Scaena tent as it provides more space.
2. Removed the top vent and moved it to the door area.
3. Add 3D interior pockets at the top of inside which the old version didn’t have.
4. Improved water resistance to 2000mm, which can be used in heavy rain.
I am excited to get this out to test and to see how much of an impact that the changes that the company has made will make in real world use.
Is this tent going to be waterproof? I certainly hope so but I’ll be honest, I’m a bit worried about it.
I’m going to test this tent out and every step of the way, I’m going to bring you all with me. If there is a problem, I will tell you about it and not only that, I’ll show it to you.
By the way, there are two reviews on the OneTigris web site for this tent but they are from early 2022 and aren’t for this new model as it wasn’t available at that time.
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Very cool; nice to see a manufacturer paying attention and making changes. Suggestion: buy a cheap rain gauge and install it near the tent so you can see and show exactly how much rain fell during these tests.
I recently purchased a OneTigris Cosmitto 2.0 tent for my bicycle touring trips. This tent will replace a Kelty Vortex 2 tent that I’ve had for nearly 25 years. On a tour of the Oregon coast recently I found that the Vortex tent had developed a leak. It was an easy fix with some polyurethane seam seal, but it got me to thinking that maybe it was time for an upgrade.
The features that worked well for me in the old Vortex tent included:
- Polyester fabric
- Freestanding dome configuration w/ 2 doors
- Good wind and rain protection
Bicycle touring is a bit different than backpacking. Although weight is still a critical factor, it is not as quite as significant as when someone has all of the gear on their back. And bulk size is not as much of an issue either. I have found over the years that there are places where weight can be saved, but skimping on a tent is not one of them.
For touring I typically use established campgrounds where there is soft ground and grassy surfaces to pitch, and honestly in worst cases I pick up a motel room. On every trip there is the inevitable stealth camps when nothing else is available, and sometimes it includes setting up on concrete pads and pavement (thus making a free-standing design necessary). The camping aspect of the trips is important, so I’ve found it best to get equipment that is balanced more toward indestructible than lightweight. One of the reasons that I kept my Vortex tent (8 lbs pack weight) for so long is that it dependably stayed dry and held up very well in some pretty horrific storms.
My style of bicycle touring usually involves weeks of leisurely peddling along coastlines, mountain roads and rail trails, with stops for a day or more at a time to go hiking and kayaking. To date most of my touring has been in the northern US and a couple of expeditions through New Zealand. Planned trips include Patagonia, Canada, and??? Seasons are typically spring and fall, and the weather has ranged from sunny 60F to snow with gale-force winds. The range of conditions requires a flexible tent which can handle rain, wind, and sun. Not quite 4th season expedition grade, but close.
There seems to be an on-going discussion as to the use of nylon vs polyester for tents. Nylon is stronger and lighter than polyester, however its main drawback for tents is that it can swell up to 3% when wet. Nylon rain flies and guy lines will sag and loosen when wet if not continually tightened. The larger the tent and longer the line means more stretch. It’s nice to have ultralight gear, but for tents I’m willing to carry a bit more weight if nothing else than for peace of mind. Having used tents made from both fabrics I prefer polyester by far. It holds up better over a wider range of conditions, and dries faster. The Cosmitto tent uses the lightest polyester fabric available for the rain fly (20 denier) and heavier 75 denier for the flooring material. I think that it will be an optimal balance between weight and strength.
The stitching on the Cosmitto tent is good quality, and I only found a few loose threads (typical on a polyester tent). All of the seams are tape sealed. Reinforcing patches have been added to all critical stress points (pole, line and clip connections). The webbing used at the pole corner connections is ¾” wide instead of the 3/8” used on many ultralight tents. (These stress points are not a good place to save half an ounce.)
I chose the Coyote Brown color. The tent body is a medium brown, but the fly is a dark chocolate brown - much darker than what the company website indicates. It will work just fine for stealth camps, and the fly is dark enough to conceal light at night. I suspect that it will be very hot when pitched in direct sunlight, so good ventilation will be required. Some people like to have bright colored tents (red, purple, yellow, etc.), and they might look good from the outside. But sit inside one for a day and its like being in a 1970’s discotheque.
There are two basic pole configurations for dome tents: straight cross-over and double “Y” (MSR Hubba Hubba style). The double Y arrangement is lighter due to less length of poles, and it keeps the end walls of the tent nearly vertical to make good use of the space. The weakness is that the side walls where the doors are located are not as well supported as the ends, and do not provide decent guy points. The cross-over design with a transverse pole (as in the Cosmitto) is a much stronger configuration and provides symmetric points to attach guy lines. The kink in the Cosmitto 2.0 poles is at just the right height to make the walls more vertical and create more headroom than using straight poles as found in the 1.0 version (and also my old Vortex).
The tent poles are painted black to make it easy to see if the pole connections are tight. The polished silver aluminum male ends stand out distinctly if not inserted all the way in. A nice touch.
One of the features on my old Vortex tent was what Kelty referred to as “Flyboys”. These were cylindrical slotted plastic clips about 1” long that slid into patches on the rainfly. The clips effectively pinched the rainfly to the poles and provided a point to attach guy lines. That way the guy lines were connected directly to the poles and the fly together instead of just the fly, giving a much sturdier coupling. (Hilleberg uses longer guy webbing straps that wrap around the external poles to achieve the same effect.) I removed the four clips from the old Vortex tent and found that they could be used on the Cosmitto using 3” long strips of 1” wide polyester webbing (nylon swells when wet, polyester does not) as padding between the fly and clip. These clips should allow the tent to be firmly clamped to the ground and dramatically increase its wind stability. (Kelty used the Flyboy clips on their Webforce series tents about twenty+ years ago, and I have not seen them anywhere else.)
For a footprint I have a 4-mil twin-size mattress bag that opens on one end. The bag is large enough to just cover the bottom of the tent. The other purpose of the bag is as a package for the bicycle when transporting it on buses and airplanes, much like the CTC bags used in Europe. With an added strip of 1” webbing that ties between the seat and handlebar stem for a handle, the whole package weighs 20 oz - heavy for a footprint but incredibly light for multi-modal transport storage system.
The Cosmitto tent uses inverted “T” doors on both sides as opposed to the “D” style portals found on my old Vortex. The T doors allow the entire sides of the tent to be opened up, and provide so much access that it is possible to put my entire bicycle inside the tent in situations where I want to keep it out of sight.
The amount of mesh in the tent body looks to be a good balance between having good ventilation and keeping the heat in. The mesh is a high-density type that should keep out most bugs. The two mesh storage pockets are well placed and generous in size.
The stakes and guy lines that came with the tent were adequate. As an upgrade I replaced the stakes with a mixture of titanium nails and titanium “Y’ stakes. The nails are heavier than the Y’s, but are better for hard ground and have better holding strength. The nails will be used for the long guy lines (higher up and structural to the poles) and the Ys will be used to hold the fly in place. Also, I replaced all of the cordage with reflective polyester line. Extra line was added to the corners and midpoints to give more flexibility in setting the stake points.
The zippers are good quality YKK brand. I lubricated the zips and pole connections with a ‘dry’ type silicone oil that I use for my bicycle chains. Loops have been placed at the top corners so that another gear loft could be added, or simply to hang a clothesline.
Another carryover from the old tent is a Sierra Designs Taquito tent bag. It’s an organizer that rolls out flat and has dedicated mesh pockets for the tent body and fly, and solid pockets for the poles and stakes. There are three compression straps and carrying tether. I’ve found this arrangement to be easier/faster/lighter than using stuff bags with separate bags for poles and stakes. It also makes it easier to partially dry the tent by simply rolling it open. (Sierra Designs stopped selling these items about fifteen years ago and transferred the Taquito name to a series of sleeping bags.)
So far I have only a couple of complaints:
- The tie back loops on the fly doors are too low to the ground, and don’t do a very good job of holding the rolled tent doors in-place. I attached short strips of Velcro higher up on the tent body and door to take care of it; and
- The grommets at the tent corners where the poles attach are too large, and allow the poles to pop out when setting up. For a temporary fix I wrapped a 1” wide strip of heavy black duct tape around the grommets and then punched
Luke, great review. Small suggestion, why not put a little rain gauge a few feet away to record just (on some occasions) just how much rain fell there on Lone Wolf Mountain.
I agree with the lost customers part. To know you have a defective product and not remove it from the market WILL cost you future and present customers. Customers do not like feeling like they've been cheated. Whether real or not perception is everything. With such a huge outdoors market, consumers have many. many choices. I had been a one tigris customer, but no longer. I refuse to do business with companies who are about the money and not the integrity. Same with Nature hike. I bought one of their tents, was shorted 2 stakes and they refused to send them to me. My story to everyone about these products (including internet reviews, blogs, ect.) will be as I've explained. Good news travels fast, but bad news travels faster. Luke's channel is a beacon on integrity. We he says "strength and honor", he means it.
At least the company put a disclaimer on not to use in heavy rain they probably had lots of money invested in the tents. Lots of tents leak even 600 dollar tents. They took Luke's advise.
The Cosmitto recently went on sale on amazon and after this review i decided it was a perfect point for me to pick up and try myself. I hike for 2 nights through the Manistee forest in Michigan. I love this tent. The first night I had a random thunderstorm roll in and after closing the vents which water was only splashing through, I was completely dry. Its take about 5 minutes to set up and take down, leisurely. I have a more expensive tent the dosen't perform as good as this.
I know this isn't the right video but I love the cross country 3244 miles to the holy Cross in Colorado. Your wife Susie is a phenomenal woman and you as her husband. I binge watch you guys videos. Strength and Honor.❤
we have a drinking game while watching your channel. every time you say "the thing is this" we drink. get drunk every time. lol
Good one. For a change of pace, change the word to "Insane". Luke really overuses this word, big time!
@@azclaimjumper 😂 we will have to try it 😂
Love how you give products a chance to make things right
I'm so glad it didn't leak! I've been wanting this tent for a while but didn't pull the trigger on the fact it leaked. I live in Las Vegas, so rain isn't really an issue, but when I go to northern Arizona to camp, they get some heavy rain there sometimes, so a tent that doesn't leak would be awesome!
I live in FLA...and have been looking for a heavy mesh (good ventilation) tent that can withstand rain and humidity. I've been camping in NC (where Luke lives). It's not the same environment but this gives me hope that OT has produced a tent capable of withstanding humidity and rain.
I'll probably buy this. I want an upgrade over my River Country 2.2. The River Country 2.2 is an excellent tent for what it is, but an experience during my last camping trip highlighted the need for being able to make a quick exit that won't visibly shake the whole tent (it involved some sketchy people at 2 AM at a very remote camp site). For security reasons, I don't feel comfortable using that style of tent when camping alone anymore. I'll also always be setting up my tent with the door away from the road.
I’ve got a cosmitto 2.0 coming tomorrow, looking forward to using it and grateful for the thorough rain test, very reassuring as I live in UK 🙄
I am happy the cosmitto 2.0 did not leak but if you got the old version onetigris should replace it in my view..
Thanks for a great video !
I was a scout when I was younger we were taught to dig a trench around the tent so water could run off
Looking forward to your full report, thanks for your good work!
I have a friend that only car camps and is in need of a new tent, glad to see this initial review and I can now recommend this tent to him to replace his really old worn out tent. Good job!
I have this very tent, bought it a couple of weeks ago. Haven't tested it out in the rain yet but it hold up to wind pretty good.
Glad to see they fixed the issues. Thanks for the review!
Wow, this tent really stood up to the rain! I was impressed with how dry everything stayed inside. The Cosmitto 2.0 One Tigris tent looks like a great option for anyone who loves camping in all types of weather. Thanks for the thorough review and demonstration in real-life conditions!
It better not leak I just got mine delivered and still in the bag. Glad it did not leak thus far...now I can breath.
So cool that one Tigris listened and fixed their tent awsome news , Thanks Luke for the test. always appreciate your reviews
Mellow good morning Luke. Love the test vids!!!
Glad to see. I really like one tigris and have both tents. Though the new 1 will be my go to. Ready to see another video update on it.
I haven’t viewed the channel in almost 4 or 5 months now, but I have to say that you are looking JACKED bro! Good work!
Brilliant as always Luke
I think I found my next tent. Thanks for the review!
Thumbs up for TOGR..👍👍
Nice! They fixed it. Great test Luke, thanks.
Excellent review as
Always boss keep up all the great work that you do for us campers out there
👏👏👏
Good job on OneTigris. They listened, re-designed and produced a banger. Mine will be ordered tomorrow. Thanks, Luke...and the community. SOME companies don't suck after all. Kudos need to be given when the company listens and improves the quality of their product. OneTigris appears to be that company.
Thanks Luke, I was thinking of getting this tent as a backup for a friend.
Nice looking tent, look forward to the next review.
Great to hear that this one didn't leak after the redesign. 👍
I bought this tent based off of this review. I can’t wait to see the future testing you will be doing on this tent. Any idea when you will be coming back to this tent to do the future testing?
Keep up the great work.
Great review Luke as always.
Well I didn't comment to say if it would leak or wouldn't but I'm glad it didn't leak hopefully they will step up their game now and make everything as good or better.
Thanks for all you do.
You're the Man.
KEEP ADVENTURING
GOD BLESS YOU
🤗HUGS🤗
Thanks for the review. Very useful!
Good on OneTigris for upping their game👍
Excellent to the point Video. Tell it like it is Luke.
With all your Onetigris reviews and my subsequent purchases this is now on my list. I already have an REI Passage 2 and a Teton Sports Ultra 3 which have both served me well for mostly desert camping with little precipitation. I'm digging the upside down T for the zippers instead of the full arc zippers of the other two tents. Hell most of the time I sleep in the back of my truck anyway but sometimes I want to watch the stars and fall off to slumber that way. Love having options. Thanks for the review on the updated version.
Glad they fixed the problems. A great step forward. Thanks, Luke!! Later.
Really good test I’m thinking of buying one I’ll wait till the next test thanks Luke
I'm not in the market for a new tent, but I am fascinated by the saga of this tent.
Strong work Luke.
So far, I like it ! Well done.
Eagerly awaiting more Cosmitto content 😃 I now have one in the post
I love your reviews man!
Great job Luke
Excellent video
Another great job reviewing products for the consumer! Actually not surprised that they made the correction and also not surprised they didn’t cancel sales. Interested to see the rest of the review once it’s test time is finished.
You never fail to entertain. 🙌
I must admit I too thought it would leak.
I’m super happy that it didn’t.
May add this one to my arsenal.
I have been happy with the one Tigres products I have purchased thus far. Thanks for what you do Luke!
Man I’ve been waiting for this test. I ordered one on Amazon a couple weeks ago on sale for 139.99. A breeze to set up. Can’t wait to use it. Love the videos. Keep up the great work.
wait, you waited for the test but then bought it before the test? balls of steel.
@@DarkMetaOFFICIAL yes. I didn’t want to miss out on the sale. I had faith from the preview video.
Yes. It was the 2.0
I just got mine (2.0) definitely looking forward to taking it out with my son and making some great memories. Keep up the great work!
Thank you Luke
I was hoping it wasn't going to leak. I think this is a really cool design for a tent.
Definitely your video affected me buying it. I would not have known about the leaks without your video review. so I appreciate the work you do in reviewing these types of tents. I’m glad that the revised version is better because I really like the look of this tent. I can’t wait to see your next video on this tent I’m definitely holding off until then. I want to know if the removal of the vents will affect airflow.
I did order this, i live in Finland, cant wait for it :)
Beautiful tent. My best wishes from Greece my friend
Well done
OneTigris makes really good products for the money.
The Tetra 160 is going to be my moto camping tent. I was going to buy a North Face Stormbreak 2 but I think the Tetra is a better tent for the money.
Thanks for making these reviews 😁👍
Thanks for your honest opinions as always 👌 I wish one Tigris made that tent in a brownish colour to blend in with the woodland. Atb Taff 🤠👊
Well I will keep following and see how the rest of your testing goes. Still leary, especially by the fact they did not pull the original off the market and let people keep buying potentially putting them in jeopardy
I’ve been waiting for this one.
In the market for a new tent ,I’ll be following you on this tent
Been using this tent for a couple weeks on and off the river when I have time, Love it, I do wish it came with a footprint. Overall though this tent is a bang for your buck tent. looks nice, feels nice, and has been waterproof so far, and the bag isn't too small too, & that is one thing I hate about tents. this storage bag is easy to use and has a lot more room. even an extra footprint for when I plan on getting one.
Nice looking tent
Looking good Luke
I like this colour over the other. Tomorrow arrives our package of two Cosmitto 2 tents in this colour.
Great job! Now, I look forward to a good condensation test….
That is a great looking tent, I hope it doesn't leak
Finally!!! Thankyou
I like too see it in a windy rain test!!!!! 😅
It took a literal act of god for me not to hit the comments section, as I was so excited to see the outcome. Thanks for this review mate. Another tent to go on my list for bike camps
Your lookin hella fit my friend.
Bought the second version of the first one but never used it because of your review. Live in Oregon, so that one will probably be a good two-season car camping tent. The 2.0 just arrived and am looking forward to seeing how it does. Thanks again for your reviews -- I hope you're getting commissions (or something) on the gear I've picked up because of your work!
Hi mike. Did you test the 2.0
Only ask because I'm interested in purchasing this tent but I live in rural Scotland where it would be tested to the extreme wind and rain
And I will be camping in Oregon next year hopefully
I have two One Tigris tents in my van...one for the beach and one for backpacking. I love them both. The Cosmitto is a nice looking tent. I agree the original should have been pulled off the market...big mistake on their part. Nicely done, Luke.
I have watched you for many years and have valued your reviews regarding outdoor equipment and your honesty in doing so. I know most of what you cover is hiking and related gear but as I age I have gone more to vehicle camping. I know in the past you have touched on the subject here and there about overland ot vehicle camping and some related gear. I would love to see in the future some reviews on heavier tents that one would only use with a 4 wheeler or some other vehicle. I am thinking more along the lines of some of the new canvas tents thast seem to be popping up everywhere. I am a retired marine and have some physical issues (mainly back...LOL) that are starting to limit the pack and hike camping that I have enjoyed and I am starting to look at gear related towards my age and physical inabilities. As always looking forward to more reviews and keep up the great work you do.
I agree with Vic. I would love to see some reviews on larger tents like the Kodak’s or Oz Tent lines. Not all of us are able to be hike in campers but still have the love for tent camping. Cheers.
Never mind the tent. Luke looking SWOLL! Dang bro..Gains!
Thx Luke
I really hope not i wouldnt mind haveing this. If this tent works out like i hope it does i might get one. Nice that awsome it didnt get wet !!! I cant wait to see what u will put it thru. I might invest in one of these withyour reviews
Hi nice thanks for sharing stay blessed
Just ordered this tent. I will be using it in a few days but there is very little rain in the forecast.
I just bought this tent hope it is durable
What temperatures would you recommend for this tent what’s ideal and what’s pushing its limits. Love the channel been a huge fan for years keep up the good work
Yo dude, I miss you camping 🏕 in the snow ❄️
@6:10 cool i was wrong and i'm glad it didn't leak :) i still love the design too :)
Nice tent, hope it comes in camo.
Hi Luke! To measure rain easily, put an empty tuna can next to the tent.
I am in the "gonna leak" side.
I always pitch my tent and then throw a tarp over top of the whole campsite, that's saved my wife and me some wet mornings. I've had good, water-tight tents leak in some Oklahoma storms on the lake, I'll tell you. That's why I started using the tarp over all, plus it creates some space for my other equipment that doesn't go in the tent and I don't want to keep it in the vehicle. Some of those Oklahoma storms are pretty wild, and the winds are fierce. I had to resort to using big 12 inch timber spikes for tent and tarp stakes. That Oklahoma soil is all rocks, seemingly, and the little weenie aluminum stakes would come loose and flap dangerously in the wind, if I could even get them into the ground at all. Even those aluminum stakes can harm or even kill when they are being whipped around like that. I've had to go out in a couple of those storms, to re-secure them before they could rip my tarp or tent to shreds. Never had any problems after I started using the timber spikes.
Why do I find your videos so fascinating? I have never camped a day in my life and I am way too old to start now.
Good audio
You’re never too old 😊
@@mccandless1 too true .. every camp you learn something new
The tent looks great and definitely waterproof, my real concern is airflow inside of it!
Hey, picked this tent up and did some backpacking with it. Airflow is pretty good. With the fly completely down and closed it was yes waterproof but still allowed a breeze to come in with the wind. When it warmed up and the sun was on it I could feel it but everytime the wind blew I felt it as well.
I was hoping for the best.
Two thumbs up!
I wonder how they will identify the old version vs the newer version and how many of the old are in the resellers inventory?
Have you ever thought about putting a camera inside the tent(s) to try to catch the leak and where from?
I was surely impressed with this thing. I wasn't sure actually, 50/50 chance. I rate this tent a 9.5 out of 10. I'm impressed so far.
Coffee time!!!
I might be wrong, but I like a ridged looking tent. I don't like flies flapping around. Many tents dont have adequate guy line attachments to keep the fly ridged. My tents look like spiders webs! 🤣 I have a Tunnel tent which I really like for the waterproofing. But there are far too few guy line attachments. And dont get me started on dome tents that attach guy line points above half way, so when the wind blows they bend the poles. Good job Sir.
Happy with my Fallraven great review
Which model do you have?
@@azclaimjumper I have the Abisco lite 1 when I gout alone and the Keb Dome 3 when the wife comes out both great tents the Dome 3 bought last year only used it 3 4 times happy with it so far
For 139.00 you can’t expect miracles.
@@luciferiancheflux1967 The Abisco brand is often used & promoted by Bushman & Blue, And they've withstood really ferocious weather in UK.
@@azclaimjumper I’m in Canada - In the woods about 2-3 hrs away from Montreal it’s get cold up here the tents are not cheap by any means . Worth every penny . Cheers
Hope you had the safety on those guns! 💪 yeeeooo!
For a real "Rain Test" you should bring your stuff down here to south Florida where it REALLY rains. We sometimes get over an inch in one (1) hour and at times over 5 inches in one night. The wind often has the rain coming totally horizontal along with trashcans, dogs, cats, lizards, and maybe a few gators. I STILL LOVE YOUR REVIEWS AND OTHER STUFF. I'm just a bit old for camping and hiking after my last birthday where I celebrated my 29th birthday for the 49th time.
I live in South Louisiana and used this tent last weekend in heavy rain, no leaks and no condensation problems. and it poured for many many hours as well.
I will be awaiting your final review before purchasing it at $169.00. I also like that they have the Coyote Color available but would love a dark green. When I'm out there I do not like to advertise my location with bright colors having nearly been robbed a few years ago by four bandidos.
Be aware that the coyote color is the first version of this tent, the one that leaked. The wolf gray color is the new, upgraded version. 🙂
In a tent with no top vents I use a rechargeable fan to move air and it usually works to stop condensation