320kg/707lbs Squat Without Steroids? Q&A with Toshiki Yamamoto (English + 日本語)
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0:00 Clarence Invades Toshiki's Gym
0:21 Toshiki's Heaviest Lifts
1:33 How did Toshiki get into weightlifting
2:28 Toshiki's Instagram Account Hacked
3:42 What is Toshiki's Job?
4:37 Sports Funding in Japan
5:28 Problems with the Japanese weightlifting federation
5:52 Romantic Relationship Drama in Japanese Weightlifting
6:18 Typical week for Toshiki during his prime
7:10 The most important question in this video
8:05 Toshiki's Diet
9:02 Toshiki's Dislocated Elbow and Broken Shin
11:45 Toshiki's build up to the Olympics and why he bombed out
13:57 Fitness in Japan and how it's different
14:37 Interrogating Toshiki Yamamoto about Steroids
15:15 Toshiki proves he's natural
16:09 Tank is natty and he could squat 450kg if he used tren
16:42 Are steroids popular in Japan?
17:18 Toshiki's opinion on Anti-Doping
18:29 Does Toshiki hate lifters who use PEDs?
19:28 Toshiki wanted to quit weightlifting in the past
20:46 Why did Toshiki use METCONS at the World Championships
21:22 Why is Toshiki Bodybuilding right now
21:33 Toshiki wants to compete at the LA 2028 Olympics
22:11 Will Toshiki compete in Powerlifting?
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my favorite part is when he said "that's the end of the interview" to signal that the interview had ended.
Japan-trip without Jangho would have been a trainwreck! You are the man Jangho!
8:37 CHICKEN RICE AND BROCCOLI - IT JUST WORKS, GUYS!
mike o hearn is also natty
Great interview Clarence. And great job Jangho for translating!
20:24 I think that’s really interesting
I think people see doping as cheating while others see it as part of the sport. Clarence says he wanted to hit huge numbers and it was a tool to do so. I’m glad senpai still respects Clarence
its cheating. And just because supposedly "everybody is doing it" its still cheating.
@@RobertRedway you made no argument. why's it cheating if you use it to _level_ the playing field?
@@patootie3529 its cheating because the rules prohibit it... You dont need to argue if something is cheating when there are clear cut rules about it :/
@@SteviieRayzZ Everybody doesn't give a f#ck about rules. If everyone, I mean everyone on the platform is on gear, it ain't cheating. At all.
Now go riding a pink rainbow unicorn.
What a great and wholesome interview! We Lift Weights is the MVP of Clarence's journey to Japan. Thanks to him so much was achieved
Another great video on: Clarence, Steroids, Doping, Vegan, Toshiki and squats. Its a proven winning format.
This interview was fantastic. Really appreciate getting to learn more about Toshiki as an English speaker. Thanks Clarence, WeLiftWeights, and Senpai for this great content!
Great interview and thanks for Jangho for translating!
Lost NNN... thanks a lot clarence
Lmao I was looking at their legs all the time
"So, yeah. That's the end of the interview"
Brilliant interview! It's a shame these videos don't get more views considering how much goes into them. Travel, editing, translations, planning ect. This deserves ten times the views but I understand it's a very niche topic. Plus it tests our tiny brains by being 22 minutes, not 22 seconds like everything is these days.
This interview was awesome; thanks for uploading!
Thank you for making this video and sharing it with us🙏
Very interesting to listen to. Thank you Clarence and the team for making this interview.
Really good interview, Clarence0. Toshiki is a winner...thx!✌
Great interview, thanks!
So stoked for this!!!
Excellent video! Really enjoyed it thoroughly. 💪🙏👍
Enjoyed the interview a good listen
Great video Clarence!
ステロイドが当たり前のお国柄の人達は、自分よりデカいか強い人はステロイドユーザーじゃないと気が済まないんだろうな
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There is a limit cap at every body weight what you can *almost* lift. And if a person is lifting weights that no normal human should be able to at a particular body weight ( say someone squatting 300+ kg ATG at 90 kg body weight) he most certainly is not. And as the normal saying going... if the person is not looking natural...he/she is most likely is not.
そういう人たちはたちはあんまり自分から調べようとせずに見た目と重量で決めつけるからなぁ。盲信しろと言うのではなく、世界でも有数のアスリートである山本さんに失礼やわ。
@@Demiamant "genetic freaks" is a catagory in humanity, and top athletes are top athletes for a reason. Freak genetics+hard work=top athlete. Not everyone that does grazy weight is on steroids. Say a powerlifter whos on gear has a max 1k lb backsquat. as a natty, hed still be able to get over an 800 backsquat at his peak, maybe even a lil more. Steroids arent a miracle drug that take a string bean dude 150lbs wet and make him into a 280lb lean monster who can all the sudden tripple his bodyweight in a squat. Youre generalizing humans to a very average catagory as if anyone whos 230lbs or above is automatically on roids, and as if there is no possible way that people are born gifted and every human fits within an exact perameter of what you think people "should be able" to lift. Thats not how things work.
Great interview, thanks a lot!
Man, I love your content!
Great interview really enjoyed this 👌🏻
really interesting video, thanks Clarence
Extremely interesting interview!
Great interview!
A Clarence upload!
Fantastic interview! And jesus Clarence your hamstrings are something else man
Watching this video without reading the subtitles makes the bilingual chaos of my brain incredibly happy.
ドーピング当たり前の連中からしたらそりゃ信じられないよな。改めて日本の環境はとても貴重で価値あるものなんだと思った。
日本人はズルが嫌いだからドーピングしないのは当たり前だよね。日本のアスリートは強い
Damn talk about an interrogation. And he (Toshiki) answered all of it with respect and I felt he was being sincere and honest.
great video
We still want to see a squat battle of toshiki vs clarence. waiting for the early recovery of the toshiki injury
Good interview. Funny to see that very Asian "Must avoid eye-contact at all times!" demeanor, contrasted with Clarence's posture and attempts at eye-contact.
Shout out to jangho. What a great guy 😊
Really cool dude! :)
i believe he is natural because mike o hearn and simeon panda are also natural and very big and strong so its possible in some people
🤣
Really nice questions asked and I like those follow up questions to go to the bottom of situations. Very interesting. And I'm not even interested in weight lifting lol
16:10
Senpai has unbelievable genetics
Even Clarence appreciates he s at kaiju levels
His squat is close to the best powerlifters of his bodyweight, it's very hard to believe that he's never taken steroids. If he's truly naty, then he has one of the greatest strength genetics ever. Normally, I wouldn't think that his numbers are even possible at his bodyweight, without peds.
his bench press is not high though
@@neohubrisyeah because he's a weightlifter and never really trained , underdeveloped chest too and elbow problem.
He said he got up to 105kg to hit those numbers. Check out Ashton rouska who is squatting 800+
日本のアスリートはドーピングしないよ。日本人はズルや嘘が大嫌い
The armstrong argument "I've been tested heaps so obviously I'm natural"
SHEESH BACK AT IT WITH ANOTHER JAPAN VIDEO
Thank Kurarensu sensei for interviewing Toshiki!
彼はオリンピック選手で厳しい検査を何回も受けてるし、ずっと前からアンチドーピング活動をしてるので間違いなくナチュラルです。
ちなみに、日本には彼より大きいナチュラルビルダーがたくさんいます。
Bro is honest af🤣🤣 says Cut Cut Cut instantly
First video where Clarence is open that he uses gear.
Toshiki nombrando made in abyss WoW un hombre de cultura 🤓 🔥😂
22:08 clarence accidentally have the most japanese answer possible lol.
Will we ever get clarence and toshiki embracing holding hands ever again?? 😢
Toshiki is BOSS
hello clarence
Dangit, I had just bought this underwear😫
🤨
痩せてめちゃくちゃかっこよくなっている
The retention on these must be insane
freaking nuts yo
inb4 clarence becomes an interviewer
5:43 I also experienced this when I was practising karate at different dojos (two different styles) at the certain country. Senseis were not happy with me when I was trying to improve my skills. It seems that Japanese mindset values loyalty highly.
The desire to restrict someone to their culture instead of exploring every possible option to become better... It's very common in asian countries unfortunately due to the intense patriotic pride. It's also why people always keep their training and techniques secret instead of everyone helping each other.
@@BuffPomsky Yeah, i had experienced the patriotic pride strongly back then in 90'. People refused to share with me when I asked for advice in bodybuilding and general fitness etc. Even paid training sessions. Fortunately, I had opportunity to study oversea and join Crossfit. When I returned home, I switched to Oly lifts and trained on my own. Now it's somehow better as people share their techniques openly.
I think in this case it had to do with protecting the image of the national team. They were thinking "what reason would a national team weightlifter have to do most of their training at commercial gyms?"
日本人がスポーツであまり活躍できないのは外国人はドーピングしたことがあるからなのか？と思うくらい海外ではドーピングが蔓延してるんだなとコメントを見て思った。
korea vlog when???
watched the whole thing great video
It's a 23 min video that was released 5 min ago and your comment is 5 min old. The math ain't mathing bro
Right
@@Dementia.PugilisticaAfter some days nobody will be able to confirm it though. I confirm that he posted a minute after the vid got out too.
@suntzu7727 detective work + corroborating testimony. Good work lieutenant
If you can achieve those numbers without roids I'll keep going then till I maxed out naturally and hope for the best without injuries
Wonder if Clarence thinks Toshiki is natty or not.
FFMI of like 27, but all natural of course.
Only seeing this now because of the insta story, you should post a story as soon as you post!!
lol'd mirin that intro
first of all hes not natural
second brilliant interview
No natural athelete has shoulders like that. Juicy like tropicana
I liked your og mildly baggy shorts. It looked cool with the tank.
bro's got huge hands
My man bulked on cup ramen
"Dragon Ball Z is above my generation"
Bro DBZ is timeless. 😢
No way is he going to admit in front of everyone like this come on bro😂😂😂
today we see many doping teenagers, competing in non tested powerlifting meet, breaking records by records and while claiming they're natty. The world of competing sports is just ruin for met by that time.
Clearence also has hams..
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Weightoliftinguuu
for JUST
320kg squat natty yeah, with 6 pack abs no.
there are few guys in the 1920ies to 1959ies that did a 300kg + deadlifts
@@saddemgargourizack telander did a 300 deadlift.
a professional internet fitness bro in this era , you have to be stupid to believe he isn't on gear @@-TK-
@@saddemgargouri and there probably would have been monster squatters back then if someone had invented the squat rack earlier. But alas, before it was made, one could only back squat the weight they could first clean from the ground.
@@theKashConnoisseur Heinrich Steinborn for instance ''squatted'' 250 kg 5 times , after managing to get the weight on his back without a squat rack
ステ使ってる人は嫌いだけど、試合に出てこないってのは好感持てる。気持ちの問題だから説明し辛いけど、日本人がステ使うと海外選手の人以上に嫌悪感が生まれてしまうのはなぜだろう。
俺はこの2人がキッカケでウェイトリフティングの凄さに気付いて、いつかウェイトを始めたいと思ってる。
山本選手のウェイト認知度を高めるって目標は着実に広がってますよ。
its 2023 and people still think hes natty.
are there actually people who think he's 100% natural?
偏見かもしれないが、クラレンスの聞く姿勢が日本人っぽいのが印象に残った。良い意味で
Clarence is a huge weeb. So he might know a thing a two about japanese culture😂
Dope
It's better to just not bring up steroids. We know even if you thought he was juicing (which I'm sure you really do) you wouldn't accuse a japanese person of it as it's very much illegal and carries shame to be caught even more so than other athletes. Similar why Swedes living in Sweden wouldn't admit to it, as they evenn randomly test in gyms.
Unless someone can prove it otherwise with an actual law or statute, as far as I researched, albeit this was 10ish years ago, steroids were actually more legal in Japan than in USA. In that while they are/were prescription only, they were not "controlled substances" that would get you arrested like you would for heroin or meth or whatever, like they are in USA. I read foreigners accounts of being able to buy orals freely from Thailand/etc, but injectables the problem was getting a supply of clean needles, but not the drugs themselves.
Japan also in the 1990s/early 2000s had untested MMA as a very popular thing, too. You can argue for the social stigma aspect of it with Japan, but I don't think there's any real legal argument to make, Japan overall has better civil liberties than Sweden right now, anyway. Even for the social stigma aspect, if you look at JADO sanctions, you'll find many sanctions for steroids or SARMs are shorter than USA, and NADOs aren't forced to publicize all names and results. I'm sure in Japan as well with Asian "face" culture and corruption you could make bad results go away. We hold Japan to a higher standard but I don't think ultimately Japan is any different than the rest of Asia in these aspects, they're just more polished.
Why do you think Clarence thinks he's juicing?
@@Micheldied because he has a brain and uses PEDs himself. If it wasn’t apparent already with her strength being an Olympian, how about the size for bodybuilding
@@Fillegubben and yet, Clarence has said on Patreon that he thinks Toshiki is natural. So tell me again how you know Clarence thinks he's on gear?
Also, he's barely over 80kg for bodybuilding. He isn't massive at all.
@@Micheldied People don't really get being friends nowadays. You help your friends out and don't spread rumors/accusations about them, even if deep down you might believe something is up. Especially in the case of something like steroids where you're not really concretely hurting anyone. I remember Vegan Gains made a video about Clarence Kennedy and said he was natty when he was in fact taking gear, when Vegan Gains was the king of natty or not BS, because they were both vegan and both became personal friends of each other.
Also, since it seems like Toshiki had pretty garbage pharmacology for actually preventing injuries, really the only drug he could have taken nowadays is testosterone suspension, which is in and out of the system in a day or two. Some people take it just before their heavy days to get the extra strength drive and hype up, and since it's in and out it doesn't really shut you down like a long ester will.
There's no way for me to know anything, but a lot of me suspends disbelief and actually think Asians just have better genetics in being able to handle lots of training volume. Even in other sports I've trained in, Asians excel and can handle a lot of volume of work. There's also the fact even historically, Japanese and Korean lifters did well, back to the 1940s and 1950s, before steroids were a big factor.
Smells like cap that hes natty
かっこいい😊日本の誇り。ナチュラルこそ至高。
アニメ好きなんですねw
Aho dana
Natty? It’s actually funny for him to claim that. Likely genuinely comical
ボディビルの世界選手権でも日本は検査しても全然陽性反応が出ないので、明らかにおかしい身体してる人を無視して検査の数合わせかクリーンアピールのためなのか日本の選手を検査してくることが多いって合戸さん言ってたな。日本はドーピングしてなくて偉いってIFBBから表彰されてたくらい(バカらしいが)他の国が酷すぎる。
If hes natty, i guess he should just hop on PEDs and smash every record there is.... Right?
If he were to do that, he would not only lose the career he has earned, but also lose the trust of the coaches and teammates involved.
There is no career path for a doping athlete to sustain in Japan.
TBH I believe that there is the possiblity of genetics freaks out there who could be as strong as Toshiki nautrally but frankly we'll never truly know if there are because steroids do exist so in the end it's hard to trust if someone is that strong and says they are natty. To be clear I'm not saying toshiki is natural.
I don't believe it for guys who are as lean as him. If he was built like a 300lb strongman, I'd consider it plausible for a genetic freak to be that strong.
I always think this as if steroids were not invented. I'm sure there would be outliers who are so much stronger than seems possible for the average person. Same as it's in every other subject: If steroids for brains existed, no one would believe the top geniuses or chess prodigies were natty, they are just on a different level.
Don't believe. Even with out limited scientific knowledge, we know that body weight is high correlated with strength. If there are freaks out there, they're the Eddie Halls and Brian Shaws pre-steroid use. They're not six-pack'd sub 100kg dudes squatting 340, no way.
I think people should realise how much leverages actually matter. Saying he is on stuff just bc of his squat is rather stupid.
@@MellonVegan True, for me it's the amount of lean mass he carries without having myostatin deficiency. His squat is insane, but it's possible natty with really good genetics and leverages.
Using "I competed in tested sports therefore I am natural" is the most suspicious argument possible. Everyone who got caught using PEDs at some point, was competing in tested competitions until they got caught. The fact that the first thing that he said is this terrible argument, makes me believe he isn't natural.
I feel like it's impossible to really say based on his word. Given the context, it seems like the most appropriate answer to the question, since I'm not sure how else he'd prove in that moment that he's natural, and unlike a lot of fake natties he didn't seem to be unnecessarily loud about it. If not, I'm curious what else he could've done or said that would have either cleared him, or at least not raise any more suspicion.
What other factors point to him being unnatty? Also, since I'm not knowledgeable on anti-doping, are there any cases that you can point to where athletes who claimed natty were exposed?
@@squidwarg There’s honestly so many examples, it’s difficult to prove it. You can just google Olympic Weightlifter caught with steroids and then you’ll get endless results. Same with powerlifters. Watch Clarence’s videos on anti doping for the scandals and the tactics that are used to circumvent drug testing. People like Pyrros Dimas were very outspoken about how natty they are only to be busted. They even get caught after the fact when testing becomes more advanced and it’s extremely common.
it isn't really the first thing he said - he was put on the spot so it was the first thing he said in this interview. but he's spoken about it a few times on his channel before this. perhaps his true thoughts will be more convincing than being put on a spot during an interview with a near stranger
No it's not... it's insanely hard to be unnatural in Japan for so mamy reasons. Also In Finland you get tested so often and have no idea when you will be tested. If you get caught, you'll have to pay 10 000€ and that's in bodybuilding were you earn no money.
@@squidwarg the main factor is just his unbelievable strength numbers. 321kg squat might be the best squat ever at his bodyweight for a natty. Also, he is already an A session level lifter so if he was truly natty he would absolutely dominant and destroy everyone if he went on gear, even though he is competing with other genetic elites who are juiced.
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Toshiki is hot
they are people that did 300 + deadlift in the early 20 century without steroids , i imagine a tall big guy doing a lot of squats can do that but your average shredded gym bro ? no way .
Toshikik isn't tall. He's 5'7"
Squats are harder for tall guys. All that extra limb length means longer ROM.
@@danielfarrell3534 no bro. Tall guys can put on more muscle and thus be stronger, even though they will be proportionally weaker than smaller people.
There is a reason why the strongest weightlifters are not short (I.E. Lasha who is like 198 cm)
@muellernikolai8630 nope. Its basic leverage. In any case Lasha is a freak of nature but also he's huge, not just tall. Wider thighs = less maximal ROM which means more efficient lift. Its basic biomechanics.
@@danielfarrell3534 @muellernikolai8630 the ''squat is harder for taller bros '' people misinterpret this statement , if A lifter and B lifter has the same muscle mass and A is shorter , A will likely to be able to lift more weights .
I am really surprised and shocked that many people thinks Toshiki is fake natural😂 I’m 100% sure that he’s natty. I’ve seen his training and taken his classes. As one of his students. I gotta prove that he is a true athlete.
He looks natural too😂 i mean he is big and all but not like unachievable.
Bruh you can't just go off steroids for a week and call yourself natty, that's not how this works. You use steroids for one cycle, and you punched out your natty status for life.
What are you talking about?
@@theKashConnoisseur I'm saying, even if Toshiki is currently off steroids, which he probably isn't, he must have been on them at some point, probably started during college when he thought of quitting.
@@MrOrthodox13 Must have used them how? His physique isn't impossible for a genetically gifted natural by any means (I'd even argue his conditioning could have been better, given the shown footage), his increase in lean mass doesn't seem suspect (took 4 years to transition from 77 kilos to 85 kilos), and his totals in both weightlifting and powerlifting are respectable, but not record setting by any means.
The sad truth is, genetics really makes THAT big of a difference. Most of us could take IFBB levels of juice and never look as good as him on stage, because we don't have the genetics for those insertion points and those muscle peaks. Similarly, most people could take enough gear to kill a rhino and still not lift like Toshiki because we don't have the genetics for his limb ratios or leverages. Besides, in Oly lifting technical perfection trumps raw power, which results in 70 kg men jerking more than the biggest strongmen can overhead press.
Now, that's no guarantee he's NEVER used anything. Sure, he passed every PED test he's ever taken, but most screenings are more of an IQ test than a definitive proof of anything. At the end of the day, only Toshiki knows, and he's saying he *never* used steroids. He also comes from a culture where drug use is taboo, and from a country that hasn't suffered any state-sponsored doping controversies. So pardon me, but I think I'll take the word of the man who has lived it over the "probably"s from someone with no evidence.
@@theKashConnoisseur Just look at some actually natural guys at that height, none of them go below 10% body fat percentage and stay above 165lbs. None.
@@theKashConnoisseur Toshiki Yamamoto is very clearly doping. He's like 5'7" and nearing 200 pounds and is shredded. Six pack and everything with bodyfat around 10-12%. That alone is nt an achievable natural physique so I'm not sure what you're talking about or looking at. He block cleaned 230 kg at under 90 kg also. That is nearing world record numbers and in line or better than known PED users. What more do you need? You can skip the mental gymnastics and just accept reality. Weightlifting and PEDs are inseparable.
By Clarence's own fake natty standards (adding 10-15% weight the supposed "natty"'s totals, and checking if they are plausible), Toshiki's case is kinda plausible and kinda sus at the same time. Imagine someone who did 230 clean from blocks @ 89 kg bodyweight natty and then started using gear. He would manage to do 250-260 kg? That sounds kind of outlandish. At the same time, his snatch would go up to 175-187 and his C&J to 228-240.... which is arguably plausible, as that is the range of current world records for the 89 and 96 kg classes. He earns the benefit of the doubt, I guess.